>ask for mental health support>they say no, we think you would be better suited for help elsewhere>stop engaging, refuse to contribute to society>wtf why won't you help us you're so selfishGod forbid a man have a mental breakdown.
Help for mental health is only for rich people.
>>34509095Rich people have money, they can't suffer from bad mental health.Poor people like to make it all about themselves, just be old and with no children or your brother/sister died to suicide and you get a community group, a cafe with free coffee and all the chit-chat about shite nobody gives a rotten fuck about and you're laughing.Yeah i'm violent, because you're all "woe is me " poor faggots.
>>34509103Everyone can suffer from mental health issues.
>ask for mental health support>they say yes>engage, learn I cannot be helped>wtf why won't you function like a normal person
>>34509112Except for me, apparently? Because I am being told by every mental health support program "we're not suitable for you".Yeah, again, give yourselves a nice cup of tea and a cookie, and lament about how i'm the real problem, pump me full of drugs, scapegoat me for everything bad in the world, hell, why not blame me for everything because i'm a white man who refuses to dye his hair blue and wear a rainbow wristband.>>34509132>they say yesOh right, because drugging somebody and locking them up forever is a great solution and will prevent any bad things from ever happening ever.
I just don't get what these mental health support groups are expecting out of repeatedly telling me "you should get help elsewhere"They are lucky I don't have the balls to put a bullet in my fucking skull.
>>34509157They don't want to drug or imprison me. Docs here are turning away from that shit. But that doesn't exactly help me either, nothing has changed.Anyway, because this is /adv/, why exactly are they saying you can't get help?
>>34509191They never tell me, and I am left thinking the absolute worst case, negative answers.Maybe they feel insulted that I am asking for a fix to my problems which will allow me to walk away after, I don't understand why they feel insulted that I actually want to help myself. What do they think I will do after I fix my problems? Do they not have the mental reasoning skills to connect the dots that helping somebody means you get one more ally for your cause?I'm not going to help somebody who would let me starve to death before they realised something was wrong.
>>34509210who are "they"
>>34509212national health service for my countrythen a smaller, community group
>>34509218Can't you just wiggle your way in? Like misrepresent what the problem is (say what they want to hear) and then during treatment drop hints at your real problem so your shrink or whatever "figures it out" and puts you in the right track. I haven't done this but I feel like that could work. This is not medical advice.
>>34509132You are the only person that can resolve your own internal limitations. The answers are all already inside of you. Turn away the distractions and engage your subconscious mind.
>>34509246Yes probably, I can socially engineer the situation and lie myself into getting the help I deserve.I just think that is a total waste of my very strict moral standpoint that anybody is entitled to help if they are asking for it.I am at breaking point, I wish they could just concede with me that I am breaking point and can be pushed no further.
>>34509251Yes they are taking below the belt jabs at me fully aware that I am upset. Should I make it my mission to stop them? I don't know it never worked for me to fight, if I do nothing, let them "win" then they will eventually leave me alone and understand where I was coming from.Or they just ruin my life and lock me up then kill me, then I guess the fool is me.
>I can socially engineer the situation, (...) getting the help I deserve.So do it. Fuck your moral standpoint.You seem to be working very hard to convince them of something and that be actually be counterproductive. The harder you appear to try, the less they'll believe you. What worked for me was being humble, open, honest, and dropping the use of intensifiers (I am very tired, extremely depressed, super bummed out becomes "I feel tired, depressed, bummed out"). I gave them symptoms and let them draw the conclusions, despite already knowing what the conclusion should be ("I am an autistic cunt and can only fake functioning for a little while before burning out" became "I have trouble fitting in with colleagues, I make repetitive moves when I'm alone and stressed, I always have an obessesion to the detriment of everything else, etc."). Sometimes I didn't agree with the conclusions and that was fine because I knew that it would be corrected after we spent more time discussing it. Entertain their (probably incorrect) notions. Give them time to arrive at the correct conclusion. Rome wasn't built in a day.Don't throw conclusions at them, they'll feel like you're trying to hijack the process and will resist. I know it's stupid but that's how normies think. Rome wasn't built in a day. This is not medical advice.
>>34509338>Rome wasn't built in a day.Yeah that is basically it.
>>34509338>>34509366I do think that they could simply be nice to me, like they do everybody else, and fix every problem though.
mental health is such a retarded meme. Most of the shit you learn from going to therapy are actual basilisks you should be avoiding at all costs. The notion of "trauma" is pure fucking mental cancer. If you believe in the popular interpretation of psychology that girls parrot, you are massively fucking yourself over. You would be so much better off never thinking in these terms or believing this shit.
>>34509269What country OP? How to get help very much depends on what country you're in
>>34509571UK
>>34509560Yeah more people starting to realise how retarded it was to ever "medicalize" mental "health"
