I don't know what is going on in my mother's head. She wants me to go with her to talk to a community college counselor about signing up for 1 class. She says it's for me to get started on a "career". Big issue is I have autism. Statistically our demographic has the highest unemployment rate out par none, and most of us don't graduate college, and for the few who do none of them graduate on time. Given what autism is and the fact that I have it there's no networking and normal social opportunities to be made in college or work. We cannot succeed in either of these environments. My mother is out of touch and in complete denial. Truthfully she doesn't want the real me, she wants a normie. I will not succeed in college or work so I simply cannot participate, it's out of my control.
>>34520631hahahahahahahaha dude you are the one that is out of touch. do you think autistic people do not study or excel, even in school? the best chemists i studied with were heinously autistic more than i. you are simply resigning yourself to a fate you invented
>>34520631Truly unbelievably retarded post, i can't believe people think like this
>>34520631Thinking in absolutes is easy but at the end it's just lying to yourself, because reality is complex and you never can see it at face value. If you have autism, you see even less.You need the counselor. There are ways to fit autists into excellent social circles. Go find out if he knows them.
>>34520648Yes, most of us flounder. There's also no reason to work when you as a legal wagie are forced by the government to pay for Chad's offspring and fund married people's benefits when basedciety and the government gives you no solution to get stacy pussy. We're paying for our rejections.
>>34520668what the blithering fuck are you on about? you're not autistic you just took everything you read on the internet literally. pull your weight
giga bait
>>34520631You're literally my clone, this is so relatable
>>34520664Instead of only saying my op is retarded can you tell me why I'm wrong?
please remove the bait/demoralization thread, mods
>>34520631Tell her you are too dumb for university.
>>34520685I really do have autism and what I'm saying is not nonsense. Tell me why I am wrong.
>>34520811I'm not pretending. I'm just writing about my situation, my thoughts on it and why I came to these conclusions.
>>34520819You dont understand statistics at all but you use them to decide the course of your entire life. Its really retarded. You think this label is a ticket that says "give up" on it but the truth is you wrote that ticket and gave it to yourself.
>>34520831For normies in the usa an unemployment rate starting at 6% is a crisis for them that needs to be fixed now, for us it's in the high double digits (~85%) and it's always remained at that number for years because normies don't give a shit about us. Do I need to get an A+ in statistics to come up with that conclusion?
pls remove the bait threade from the 'log
>>34520668wtf is basedciety
>>345209924chan mods/admins banned sharty words because they're butthurt over the hack that happened awhile back.
>>34521013that doesn't answer the question at all
>>34521037Nufag, it’s a word filter which changes the word s-0-y-c-i-e-t-y into basedciety.
>>34520631>Statistically our demographic has the highest unemployment rate out par none, and most of us don't graduate college, and for the few who do none of them graduate on time. Given what autism is and the fact that I have it there's no networking and normal social opportunities to be made in college or work. We cannot succeed in either of these environments.Every single statement there is 100% bullshit, and you know it.
google "successful people with autism" for a long list of proofs you're wrong
>>34521178Prove it.
>>34521182Cherry picking bullshit.
>>34520631anon youre just a coward. youre using autism as an excuse to not do anything, please just try. u have people who care about u and are willing to help u try and do literally anything with your life, dont waste that.
>>34520631u have someone who cares about u and is trying to get u to do somethign with your life. dont waste that opportunity. youre a coward using autism as an excuse for being lazy
>>34520631If you were as hopelessly autistic as you say, you couldn't post this OP. You'd be sitting in a corner wearing a crash helmet as you drooled and banged your head against the wall.
It sounds like you don't want to succeed. You don't want to be normal. You have a disability and instead of challenging yourself to have a full and rewarding life, you're content to just sit and wallow in your feelings and enjoy neetbux. I don't know how bad your level of autism is, but you'll never succeed if you've already given up. Find a job you can hyper focus on and try to make the best of it. I knew a sys admin at a regular local company who was undeniably autistic and he did great. He knew every single pc in the facility by memory and what exact windows update patch number they were on and which ports needed to be open or closed for what programs by heart.
>>34520631The odds of you succeeding if you try are lowThe odds of you succeeding if you don't try are zeroLow odds are better than zero odds, and you are obligated to do anything you can to not leech off your family forever, therefore you must tryWhy are autists so fucking stupid?
>>34520631Autistically hyper fixate on learning to lie and backstab, it’s the only way to get anything.
>>34520631>using statistics for a reason to not do anythingYour mom is right. The fact is you're letting generalized information dictate your choices without even trying.
>>34522377Awesome so he’s some freak show who exists to amuse you normies
>>34520631Op you are going to get a lot of teenage tier advice, but you have identified a very real obstacle within your life, and you have to remember the real world is much different than the internet, arguably much worse. A lot of the people itt want to see you burn out irl, it makes them feel better about themselves. I would recommend finding a job that you can keep while maintaining your sanity, just focus on long term survival, hoard wealth and try to stay in good health. Godspeed
>>34520631It’s your life. I have autism and I was in a similar situation and have ended up regretting it. My mum really wanted me to go to university when I was 18 and straight up refused for reasons like you said. I’m 27 now, I’ve never had a job, have no degree/qualifications. I’ve basically fucked up any chance I had at being semi normal and I wish I could go back to being 18 and giving university a chance.
>>34522509I have a serious mental illness and every day I'm out there trying to have as normal and good life as possible. Feeling sorry for myself is dumb and counter productive. Giving up is worse. A lot of people seem to confuse difficult with impossible. Or "I don't want to" with "I can't".
>>34520631>I don't know what is going on in my mother's head. She wants me to go with her to talk to a community college counselor about signing up for 1 class.Wow, big ambition she has for you. When I was your age in 2010, if I wasn't getting decent grades, working, and doing advanced schooling I was going to be homeless.>She says it's for me to get started on a "career".Yeah? And? We live in a capitalist society, dumbfuck. You HAVE TO WORK if you want to eat. And frankly, autistic people are not excepted from this. You can wipe your own ass, I presume? You can move, operate a computer? Yeah, you can work and contribute to society. Its part of the social contract, you contribute, you get to participate in society. If I had my way, every lazy welfare cheat and person who refused to work would be tossed into a 10,000 square mile, enclosed containment area in the middle of the Nevada desert. Nothing there. You can fight for survival and resources with all the other losers and maybe some prisoners and degenerates as well.>Given what autism is and the fact that I have it there's no networking and normal social opportunities to be made in college or work. You mean to say you can't be fucked enough to make social connections, work on yourself (and probably your appearance) and your standing in the community? Again, you're not disabled, you're just a lazy welfare cheat, a fucking leech and a parasite.>We cannot succeed in either of these environments.You've never been outside or even to a university (I've worked at three). Universities are full of autistic wierdos who are experts in all sorts of fields. Have you never even seen a single movie that takes place at a college where there's some ecccentric professor? Yeah, those types exist, that is depicted in film for a reason, dipshit.>My mother is out of touch and in complete denial. Truthfully she doesn't want the real me, she wants a normie.Most mothers want thier child to be successful and happy.
>>34523443>>34520631>I will not succeed in college or work so I simply cannot participate, it's out of my control.You are literally worse than a dog, OP. Have you ever stuided animal behavior, OP? Dogs and many other animals have good survival instincts, and they can calculate odds very quickly, even if they couldn't recognize or understand numbers.See, if a dog or a wolf gets cornered, they will not lie down and die like a little bitch. They know they have two options. They can fight and maybe have a 5% chance of winning, and a 95% chance of death by mauling. And every time, they fight. Why? Because maybe luck will be on their side, maybe if they fight crazy or hard enough they'll injure the attackers so badly they back off, or maybe they'll win.You have to fight, if only to give a middle finger to God and all those who make you suffer.
>>34520668>here's also no reason to workkek now we're into the truth of it. Just say you're a coward and a lazy cunt.I work with a couple of guys with autism at my office job and is it harder for them? Yeah sure it is but they give their best every day, have supportive colleagues around them and are good workers.So don't hide behind your disability as an excuse for sitting on your ass eating tendies every day because that isn't the reason you won't get anywhere; it's because you won't even try.I feel sorry for your mom and hope she can find some joy in life despite being saddled with you.
>>34523443Most level-headed protestant
>>34523443If I had my way, every lazy welfare cheat and person who refused to work would be tossed into a 10,000 square mile, enclosed containment area in the middle of the Nevada desert. Nothing there. You can fight for survival and resources with all the other losers and maybe some prisoners and degenerates as well.Lol you'd be immediately dragged out and executed, you wouldn't have your way for long. Look what happened to that Romanian dictator who got hunted on live tv or hell gaddafi.
>You've never been outside or even to a university (I've worked at three). Universities are full of autistic wierdos who are experts in all sorts of fields. Have you never even seen a single movie that takes place at a college where there's some ecccentric professor? Yeah, those types exist, that is depicted in film for a reason, dipshit.Majority of normies who head off to college in the usa have to relearn elementary school topics. We're even potentially considering adding a 13th grade to highschool because our education system is a joke. Vast majority of students in universities worth their salt are either a. High NT trust fund babies or b. Athletes. All of those smart people who got accepted via academic merit who you assume are autistic are rotting at home after they graduate because good grades can never compensate for having friends in high places.
Just admit you dipshits don't believe that disabilities are real.
>>34523470Humans have nothing in common with dogs schizo.
>>34523749>We're even potentially considering adding a 13th grade to highschool because our education system is a joke.Wrong. I'd be fucking celebrated because I would have saved billions which could be used for something besides buying soda and junk food for some autistic loser.What I wouldn't be doing is robbing people who actually need welfare. The disenfranchised getting back on their feet, the elderly, people who actually have a demonstratable disability like quadriplegics.But somebody who has a mental disorder that can be managed with treatment and therapy? Fuck you. The state should give you the treatment you need and you return the favor by working and contributing to society. Hence, the social contract.My beef are with all the fucking homeless losers and degenerates who think it's acceptable to be do-nothings while wandering our streets doing drugs and making the city unpleasant for people who actually bother to pay into the system via taxes and work. Or OP, who thinks he is entitled by fucking birthright to not do diddly shit because he has autism. You don't want to actually adhere to the social contract? The state has every right to evict your ass from society and dump you in the desert until you come crawling back, at which point we'll give you free job training and a work detail.>>34523772What the fuck does this have to do with anything. Every single young person has a societal duty to the state to pursue work or advanced secondary education after they graduate. I admit that the current system is fucked, but in a just world you'd be either a tier 0 working your way up through experience or you could go up job tiers via secondary schooling.>>34523797Humans and Dogs are both mammals who coexisted for hundreds of thousands of years. We may be different animals, but we think alike and behave similarly in many ways. Also, it was a metaphor, are you a sub-85 or something so abstraction of concepts is difficult or something?
>>34520631I was in your situation and listen to this >>34522526 anon. Autistic burnout is a very real issue among autistic people who get forced through these systems. Don't exclude yourself from opportunities to develop adult independence but learn to listen to your body to know when too much is too much because there's a very real risk of getting injured and losing progress. Normalfags have not a damn clue what it's like getting through the job market and living as an adult with autism. You have to learn to trust yourself first and learn how to survive despite the odds being stacked against you, because frankly you don't have a choice in the matter. Life IS going to suck but you have the choice to make the most of it and you need to take that choice because that's the best damn choice you're ever going to have.
>>34523930if you're able to post on 4chan you're not autistic enough that working a job is any more hellish than it is for normies
>>34524524Doubt it. Normies love jobs, they wake up every day with a big ol smile on their faces excited to torment their “weird” coworkers and make money for their bosses, and go to bed dreaming of all the ways they can ruin your day tomorrow. They live for gossip and office affairs, it’s their whole life, why would an entire society be built around it if I was wrong? Most jobs are complete bullshit, sending emails and doing meetings, the criteria is being likeable, that’s it. It’s who you know not what you know. OP’s best bet is to forgo higher education, which is the introduction to that kind of work, and find a job that’s tolerable for him.Also the person you replied to is literally saying to get a job, did you ignore the post anon was replying to? Are you a bot?And to reiterate, NORMIES LOVE JOBS. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise op, they love this shit and they are better than you at it, don’t play their game, get deep into some hobby and make the job you get secondary. Save as much money as possible, try to have backup work and develop skills. IGNORE SOCIAL GAMES. you will lose.
If you have severe autism to the point where you're already not functioning, do NOT get pressured into the normie life. I was in your position in 2010 and I got hassled and hassled to support myself, advance my career, etc, and I just had constant mental breakdowns and burnt out. I ended up dependent on psychiatric medication and as I burnt out, my family bleated about my failures and had a hard time coping as I crashed down to being a loser. I permanently damaged myself by trying to bite off more than you can chew, and I lived the normie life for a while on heavy psychiatric drugs and didn't even enjoy it that much.That said, don't regress into your room on the computer either. There's a healthy medium.If you're autistic, you're socially retarded and just seen as an easy target to fuck with. In a workplace with 5+ people it's just going to happen, it's unavoidable. Understand you're vulnerable and structure your life around that vulnerability. Socialize always with people you perceive are a safe bet, elderly people are typically lonely and will humor you.Solitary work like cleaning, night shift security, trucking and so on are your best bet for a stable income. Remember if you're autistic a girlfriend and a wife and kids is NEVER happening, so you don't need much money. Regardless of your situation, put away $20 a week until you have $1,000, this is money you can use to relocate in an emergency. Go a mainline church with a sizable congregation and explain that you're autistic, have a hard time socializing, but are not religious, but want the routine, and ask if you can come each week and do a few jobs. Humans are wired around feeling needed, so you have to find something where you contribute each week. College is likely a bad bet unless you're genuinely a 150+IQ Kaczynski tech sperg, but even there with the brutal job market you'll be out of luck due to your shit social skills. You're on the right track, there's no rush for college yet.
>>34524612Also understand this>>34523443Is targeted sadism, look at the post laden with insults and you can pick up on it. If you're autistic you do attract sociopaths looking to harm you, anyone in a vulnerable position does, from retards to the elderly, to the mentally ill. If you ever post looking for advice online you'll inevitably see posts that are a mixture of "muh bootstraps", deflection and outright gaslighting with false narratives of supposed wunderkind aspies doing well, all laced with personal insults. You have a disorder that's literally due to parts of your brain not functioning properly, specifically the parts associated with socialization. Of course you're an easy target for sadism and social manipulation, be cynical and plan around it.
DELETE THE DEMORALIZATION SPAM YOU RETARDED FUCKS
>>34524623>You have a disorder that's literally due to parts of your brain not functioning properly, specifically the parts associated with socialization. Of course you're an easy target for sadism and social manipulation, be cynical and plan around it.yes its like if you were born frail and weak physically, beings stronger than you would be instantly able to tell and kill/eat you no problem, dont ask how, even they would have a hard time explaining it, its instinctual, the way you talk, move, dress yourself, etc. keep in mind normies dont have a golden ticket when it comes to socializing either, but imagine them as tribes rather than individuals, there are consequences for going after a normie because you anger one you anger around 10%-90% of their "tribe," there are no consequences to going after someone like op, unless he retaliates individually, which usually backfires, again, advice like "be a man, stand up for yourself" is targeted sadism/manipulation, like this scene in the wire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBI4TSbihrE people want to see you fail, its funny to them. Op the one major benefit you have is that you can listen to yourself, normies cant do that as well as you can, hence why autistic people are less likely to end up in organized crime, cults, mlm scams, etc, things that are less logical and more social pressure, but you can be swayed by statistics so its best to ignore people trying to convince you to give up because of some bogus stat or whatever.
>>34524646>keep in mind normies dont have a golden ticket when it comes to socializing either, but imagine them as tribes rather than individuals,It's this, it's like swallowing or breathing to them. If anything lonely/autistic people end up rationally understanding human nature better than normal people in the long run because they're looking at it dispassionately from the outside. And you're 100% right about normies being gullible in their own way, pretty much every second divorced loser going through a mid-life crisis becomes prey for some druggie loser psychopath, or joins a motorcycle gang, or falls for an evangelical religious movement/cult. Normies themselves when they fall into dispossession become prey for other normies.That said there's much more potential for happiness for aspies if they find their niche and routine. Understand that normies have nothing to offer you, there's nothing in that world for you. Literally fuck off to a monastery if you want, that's unironically a good idea. There's a routine, nobody there will fuck with you because the psychopaths that typically prey on people are prone to boredom (monasteries are notoriously boring environments. They're short on people, you won't fall into any addiction, you'll have a routine. You go there and you're basically guaranteed to be happy.
>>34524656>How do I calm my mom down and get her to accept reality?Also for the love of god DON'T ARGUE WITH YOUR MOM ABOUT THIS. Understand she's a normie and wired around her kids being normies, she won't understand or conceptualize it. She instinctively wants grandkids and for you to be a normalfag and she will only begrudgingly admit to herself that's not happening. Even women with literal dribbling retard kids live in hope that their tard child will find their wunder-savant skill and finally redeem himself. I still have elderly relatives wanting me to get a gook mail order wife.Put $20 a week away, humor her, tell her exactly what she wants to hear, don't get into arguments, then slowly slink off to your niche. DON'T EVER ARGUE WITH NORMALFAGS. Either bluntly tell them what you think and say "I'm not arguing with you about it", or tell them whatever they want to hear. There's nothing to be gained through arguing, you're rationally thinking it's some socratic dialogue where you come to a hidden truth, but for normies augmenting is just a game of chicken where the side with the most to lose yields to the one with less to lose.
>>34520631will she tolerate you living in her basement? if she kicks you out will you be eligible for gibs?>b-but muh relationship with my mommyshe will have more respect of you if you ignore her advice & go your own way.
