>>34523808
Have you tried not being a pussy?

>>34523821
Yes. It didn't work

>>34523986
? what advice do you want? try beta blockers if you're afraid of ssris or something. and talk therapy and exercise

my experience with ssris was meh, i kind of outgrew them, but they didn't fuck me up or anything

>>34524013
I am not afraid of SSRIs. I find they work very well. I want advice on why people are so against them here?

I have tried multiple times to stop with all the usual suggestions but my quality of life tanks within 6-12 months every time.

>>34523808
Because they fuck up very necessary ways to work emotions.

>>34524048
It's because they can have lasting emotional and sexual side effects, and because sometimes doing the basics like exercise can be the solution instead.
If that isn't the case for you and they help you out, that's fine. You should always listen to your doctor, not dissidents on the internet. But it's definitely always good to take care of the basics like getting enough exercise, perhaps improving your diet, etc.

>>34524144
>>34524048
>they can have lasting emotional and sexual side effects

I've said this in a few threads, but as an example of this, I literally took a single Sertraline pill once, and now over a year later I still can't really get erections

Because they are poison. You are killing your brain to cope with your deadly environment.
That's why people abuse alcohol and other drugs too

>>34523808
because they're either:

benzos which are easy to get addicted to and stop working fairly rapidly into developing a tolerance

or ssris that create worse feelings than anxiety or panic attacks

I'd take the worst panic attacks of my life over going into brainzaps and not being able to get effexor for another 48 hours. a super bad panic attack will be 90 minutes to a couple hours, detoxing ssris make you feel like shit every time you stand up too suddenly, turn your head too quickly, transition from darkness to bright light too quickly, and it lasts for 3 or 4 days

>>34524251
What? I don't think a single sertraline dose will be the cause of this.

>>34524262
What deadly environment? Life? If taking an SSRI allows you to function in society and hold employment (which is all the matters for an adult in life) that is going to prolong your life more than being in poverty without the medication.

>>34524289
If your telling me you find brainzaps worst than a panic attack, you have never had a level of stress/anxiety that warrants medication.

These all seem like ridiculous sensationalist comments.

>>34523808
They make you fat and soft

>>34523808
Antidepressants don't do shibenzos are good shit though. Until you get into the habit of taking it every few days for several months and then try get off it

I have autism, OCD, and bipolar disorder. I am at risk of developing schizophrenia later in life due to family history.

I've been on 16 different meds in the last 13 years and my thoughts on medications are as follows.

People who insist that antidepressants will nullify your emotions, kill your ego, destroy your personality, destroy your sex drive, etc. are either A. repeating something they heard someone else say that scared them once, or B. talking about an experience they had where a medication didn't work out for them and they got afraid of trying anything ever again.

Zoloft had no effect on me. Citalopram felt awesome but made me nauseous. Escitalopram had no effect on me. Prozac was okay but not great. Effexor made me feel like absolute shit. Abilify made me feel like shit but not as badly as Effexor did. Latuda had no effect on me.

I tried so many meds, and over time I got a better and better picture of what I needed. I'm not going to say what the med I'm on currently is, because I don't want people to think that whatever med that some retarded anon says works for them is going to work on anyone else just as well.
But the med that I'm on has freed me. I'm happier than I've ever been, I'm more emotive than before, I have a higher sex drive, I have more energy, I hate myself way less, I laugh more, I still feel sad, I still cry, I still feel depressed sometimes, but my baseline emotional state isn't in hell anymore and when I feel bad I can use coping skills I've learned to actually deal with my emotions and my irrational thoughts. My obsessive compulsions are easier to manage and I don't have permanent contamination anxiety anymore either. I feel like life is wonderful but I'm not blind to what's bad about life either. It's like turning on the fuckin windshield wipers in the rain.

(cont'd)

>>34524869
When you start to take meds you have to accept it's going to be a long process to get to what's best for you, and that some of the meds you're going to take are going to make you feel like shit. Tapering off of one med, tapering onto a new one, even cross-tapering made me feel physically awful for a week every time. I never want to taper again, it feels fucking nasty.

But the effort feels like it was worth it. I feel amazing. I don't feel like I'm a defective person anymore. I feel amazing because I feel normal.

tl;dr, if you have a bad experience with antidepressants, don't make a blanket statement that all meds are awful and are going to ruin your life because if not for the meds I'm on right now I would probably have killed myself long ago.

>>34524289
>I'd take the worst panic attacks of my life over going into brainzaps and not being able to get effexor for another 48 hours

Fuck effexor. However, most SSRIs do not give you brainzaps unless you miss a dose. I got brainzaps constantly even while taking effexor normally.

>>34524873
Statistically, going to the gym has a much better chance of improving your mental health. As a bonus, it also improves your physical health instead of making you fat and giving you ED.

>>34524876
>As a bonus, it also improves your physical health instead of making you fat and giving you ED.
I don't have ED and I'm 145 and 5'9". I couldn't exercise before I started taking meds because I had no drive to live.
I was so depressed that I was eating tortilla chips and carrots two out of three meals a day for a while.

>>34524653
>I don't think a single sertraline dose will be the cause of this

Well, it started the day I took the pill, I can't identify any other cause, and other people report it causing erectile issue, in some cases with it persisting even after you stop taking the medicine, so...

Because half of the board are the worst of boomers that think that mental illness doesn't exist and everyone just needs to pull themselves up by their bootstraps

>>34524653
>life?
No, the West and many other modern societies today, obviously.
They do not help you function in society. They help you cope by killing you and suppressing your brain. That's what I said. Suicide is not help.
Its better to cheat or leave

>>34526494
Can you link those posts ITT saying that?

>>34526494
No you can't. Go back to plebbit you massive fucking FAGGOT

>>34524048
>I want advice on why people are so against them here
That’s not advice. You’re advertising.

Seasonings like sage go in every field

Most people, the vast majority of people, don't need to be on SSRIs at all. Only for more serious cases of depression or anxiety that can't be managed without some chemical assistance. There's a smaller group that could use some SSRIs as part of a plan to get off them.

And there's a very tiny group of serial long term depressives who might need them long term: these are the exception not the rule.

In systems where care is done by primary care doctors and psychiatry specialists are only for the extreme cases, SSRI use is significantly significantly lower than in places like the US where it's thrown around flippantly to people who quite frankly shouldn't be on them. It's also dangerous because 1-2% of the population literally go crazy when they're given SSRI because they're bipolar.

>>34524013
will beta blockers work for someone who is otherwise fit and good looking, but has a fear of women and avoids / ignores them?

>>34523808
Anon I take 20mg of duloxitine because I have chronic pain and was getting super bad panic attacks from it. My cortisol was literally killing me. Saw therapist, it helped but still had panic attacks. Took duloxitine because it was that or kill myself. It dosent numb the pain, it just makes a buffet for me to help internalize it rationally. Also my anxiety went to normal levels in other ways i was like “oh this is how normal people see the world” it made life worth living. That said, i also have a super healthy diet and I exercise three to four times a week. So do all it living a happy life means living a happy life in all avenues. Don’t listen to the skitzos who don’t know shit about Neroscience. Also my dick works fine.

>>34526629
>bro just move to a third world country. Economically instability and being a foreigner will cure your anxiety
>this is a much better idea than listening to your local doctor trust me bro

Hmmmmm.

They only do 8 week studies for these drugs. But most people are on them for much longer, often indefinitely, so potentially lifelong. I'm not aware of any longitudinal studies looking at people being on these drugs potentially lifelong. Also, those 8 week studies don't show huge improvements from taking them.
Your brain will adjust itself to your use, so you have to increase dose over time, until you reach the maximum they're allowed to prescribe you. Then you have to switch to another drug.
Look at the long lists of potential side effects you can get from these drugs, and consider, is it really worth it, when the drug may only give a moderate benefit.
Do cognitive behaviour therapy instead.

>>34524048
they literally destroy people's sexual function, and the view of serotonin as a cure to depression is bullshit

>>34526494
I'm thankful I'm not so simple as to fall into false dichotomies as this poster

>>34527444
I would agree therapy should be the first response (and I think this is the general attitude, atleast in my country) but there certainly is a point where the side effects are nothing compared to the benefits.

Prolonged unemployment alone is generally going to be worst for your health/quality of life than the side effects of an SSRI. People here don't seem to get so passionate about the long term riskes of being a NEET though. This is just an example.

>>34527450
They can reduce libido for a period, but if this is a bigger concern to someone than mental stability, maybe there condition is not big enough to warrant medication. I mean, you can just be down. I think this differs from someone who required medication for poor mental health.

>>34527467
>but if this is a bigger concern to someone than mental stability,
I think this is an excuse for bad treatment. The failure to see any correlation between a person's sexual function and their mental and physical health is in itself typical allopathic pigheadedness

>>34523808
Because doctors are distributors for pharmaceutical companies who obviously want to harm people for profit. If you cannot see that, idk what kind of stupid you are.