>>34525990
Not really. Usually there is an element of emotional attachment.

>>34525990
Be the abuser. If you're the one inflicting the pain, you'll be pain free

It is impossible to interact with others without some risk of pain

>>34526099
>>34526347
please, stop being mean. do you want me to withdraw from society?

>>34525990
Being hurt and then being robust enough to move on and heal and go about your shit again and again is a core masculine trait. Sorry bro. Gotta man up

>>34527210
suicide is also a masculine trait

>>34527215
If you are a bitch i guess.

>>34527215
Right and me sticking my fist up your ass is another masculine trait.

>no. I want a pain free method. my self esteem is weak and I suffered enough in my life
Ai girlfriend/sexdoll

>>34527271
Homosexuality is as masculine as it gets.

>>34527289
Go it, it is kinky to you, so I'll bring in my entire arm through your ass.

>>34525990
c'mon guys, I've never been loves in my life. I need to at least have been proven wrong a bit before commiting to the pain

>>34527308
loved*

No, no man in history has ever succeeded in getting a girlfriend. Better give up without trying.

>>34527327
Because everyone in this thread is a whiney bitch except yourself. No, I am not a whiney bitch and I actually can handle things myself.

>>34525990
It's a numbers game in all honesty.

>>34526347
Pretty much this. It's how you deal with that pain that matters and at some point you really do stop caring and it just rolls right off.

>>34527361
>It's how you deal with that pain
I don't. Telling me to confront my pain is not realistic, you're being annoying and self righteous, instead of helpful like you think you are on your mind

>>34527374
You have to keep putting yourself how there to deal with the pain, otherwise you won't build a tolerance to it. Everybody is nervous on their first day of work but don't just quit on day two because their first day was rough, you just keep going.

>>34527374
>you're being annoying and self righteous
you're just seething because you're a pussy

>>34527378
you are thinking of healthy people, I suffered from mental illness for many years and I never built shit.
Please be compassionate

>>34527384
Bro, I have pretty serious mental illness of my own and it only worsened after I worked a nightmare job in EMS. You're not alone here on that front.
My point still stands that it only gets better if you just keep facing it, my advice would be to try it in places you never really go and with people you will never meet again, it makes it all so much easier when you never have to see them again.

>>34525990
Risk is inherent to love, there's a duality to everything and if you want to love, you have to accept that it will hurt. Not "it might hurt", it WILL hurt eventually. If you want a fit body, you have to accept a lot of pain and displeasure to earn it. If you want freedom of speech, you have to accept that people will say things that are hurtful or wrong. If you want a beautiful garden, you need rainy days to make it happen. Anything good or worthwhile in life requires risk, sacrifice and pain. That's not a bad thing, that's what makes it valuable. So accept the risk, make peace with it, and go get what you want anyway. You are adaptable, you can handle it, and most of the time, whatever you're worried about, the fear is worse than the reality ever will be. It's better to try and fail but know than to live life wondering "what if?", because regret is a worse pain than rejection or loss. Rejection and loss can be lived with or overcome, but regret is irreconcilable, and usually comes from what you didn't do but wish you had.

>>34527447
Really beautiful write up. I hope this isn't AI because it's really nice.
>>34525990
As a man turning 30 in a couple of days I feel you bro. I also want a pain free way.
For me dating apps do it, the pain can be processed alone and the hail Mary's are usually on text and the context is a dating context so I don't have to guess if they're looking for a guy or not, and above all - the opportunities keep presenting themselves, so I don't feel like I'm missing out so badly.

That being said I don't get many matches, not at all. Therefore, going to pay soon. I'm sorry to all the American freaks who think that I'm funding the Jewish global elite. It is necessary for me to be able to find a partner and be happy. I will keep you all updated in time on my progress, I hope to God that I make it. And well, I suppose I hope you make it as well. Sometimes I wish I was an amerimutt because you all speak English over there

This threas irritates me. Everyone is talking about how love is pain and clap themselves in the back because "that sounds so profound bro", but they are basically telling you if you can't stand pain you're not worthy of love, so don't even try. That's nor profound, it just sounds profound bros.
How about some real advice on how to minimize the pain?

>>34527570
You can minimize pain if you make everything sterile, ie follow a set plan that you agreed upon beforehand in a .ppt presentation about how your relationship should advance.
That is AFTER you negotiate every single aspect of your future relationship including but not limited to: number of dates, venues visited, escalation procedures and timeline.
Every breach of agreed procedure will be met with an immediate reconvening to discuss damaged feelings and reroute the dating procedure.

This existence of this thread irritates me. You fags should understand that there should be a degree of uncertainty and risk in dealing with other people that makes it worthwhile and exciting. Removing this you get an autistic rendering of a relationship in a best case scenario and an inability to start anything as a worst case.

>>34527570
Nobody said anything about worthiness, that's your own self-deprecating attitude speaking. It's simply that you cannot HAVE love without pain. In order to find love, you have to risk and face things like rejection, insecurity, heartbreak, loss, and in order to keep love, it takes more. They're two sides of the same coin. Part of why women like it when a guy asks them out specifically is, one, to avoid that risk, and two, because it takes boldness and bravery to do so. If you're not bold or brave, that's fine, it doesn't mean you don't deserve love, but it does make it a hell of a lot harder to find or maintain. Just like pretty much anything else in life worth having, risk and sacrifice are what it takes to get them and keep them. Living a life avoiding pain, or minimizing discomfort, only leads to unfulfilled potential, missed opportunities, and a life half-lived. Living in fear makes you miss out on so much, you fall to indecisiveness, you fail to take the initiative, and that's how you wind up looking back in 20 years ruminating about what you wish you had done.

Specifically for dating, if you want to minimize pain, then put all of your worries and doubts behind you and just go for it, because to do anything else will guarantee long-term pain, which is much greater than the short-term pain you might feel if you get rejected and feel bad about yourself. If that isn't acceptable, then, like you said, find a way to accept being alone.