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>mediocre uni GPA
>no friends
>no gf
I am satisfied with my life, though. I am sick of hearing "you are such a loser" 3-4 times every single day. What do I do to keep my lifestyle, but not hear this criticism every morning and every night?
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>>34540876
What lifestyle?
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>>34540880
Wake up, go to class, go home do homework, live on a 800 Cal, OMAD diet (lost 30 pounds in the 9 months I have been doing it and I am slowly getting in shape this way) and in the summers, just take it fairly easy, watch anime after dark, practice with my guns, etc.

I have not worked in the past 18 months and the last job paid Africa-tier wages (cents, not dollars per hour), but I have money in silver that was bought years ago. I just have a lot of free time at the moment and like spending that time in solitude. I will get something once my BS is done with.
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>>34540884
Why don't you ask those people what's wrong with your lifestyle and figure it out? It seems that their criticism matters to you anyway. Things like friends and girlfriend are necessities, that youthful nonchalantlyness runs out you know.
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>>34540899
Less so nonchalant-ness more just a lack of real feeling. I asked and what I was told is that I always try the easiest solution to a problem. For example, I open water bottles with a jar opener instead of struggling, because I do not see the point in struggling or how I used a trowel to unblock a sprinkler instead of a more cumbersome shovel or spade.

It seems like everyone in my area is a basedboy or a dudebro and I detest both. Where are the people who are neither?
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>>34540876
>I am satisfied with my life
Yeah, right. I am sorry but you are delusional. No one is satisfied with their life. But the objective losers, you know, the bottom 20%, they are the people who delude themselves into thinking they are satisfied. You don't need to talk shit about yourself but be real
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>>34540946
Well, I am satisfied. Been clean of glue sniffing for 8 years, not ill, my father has not been hospitalized in three years and he functions well after his stroke, my mother has been clean from crack for 13+ years now, no longer live in a crime-filled area of a crime-filled city in a crime-filled state. Life is pretty good for me right now and I want to enjoy it. (Plus in two months, it is grape season, so I will pick a few bushels of wild grapes, then).

Life got better for me and is still getting better for me with my health. If you are always so depressed all the time, then maybe it is your delusion and not mine. Life is not totally awful all of the time and far too many people are living in that delusion. Politics, "mental health" (which only works, if you believe in it, not unlike hypnosis, btw), etc. consume people's minds too much.

I am supposed to be the one hearing advice on paying naysayers no mind. Not paying a naysayers my mind in the form of (crappy) advice.
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>>34541047
At least you are positive, a lot of people here preach giving up when they are obviously unwell. I'm happy to hear about the good news in your life
The thing for me is, I keep oscillating between giving up and "trying harder" and it seems quite human to me? Like there's no such thing as being free from the rat race. You are free to be a prole, but then people are going to call you a loser, that's just the way of the world
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>>34540925
Dude. You have to seek a therapist because you're not being open enough. Why do I say that? Because what you say that "bothers other people" is so unlikely to bother anyone that just using a philosophical razor makes it sound like nonsense, and that rather you're worried about people judging you and it hurts so much the little things stay while you block out more concerning criticism. That's what it looks like at least.

Like when did the bottle opening incident happen, like 10 months ago?
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Bash their brains in.
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>>34541086
I guess, which is why I tend to keep to myself. I found that a good way to live without friends, et al. and not feel pressured is to not check the news and to avoid the red boards and this board for a lot of the time. Just learn a new hobby or skill and read. Torrent what you want to watch to avoid advertising or watch public television when the news is not on or broadcast (since it is always senior insurance commercials kek). Just keep to busy to worry.

I have learned to not worry, but not to ignore and feign attentiveness. It seems malignant, but I think that is the solution to my problem, the question is how.
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>>34541108
Happened like twice, yesterday and three days ago. I do it all of the time. It is just the most notable thing that happens in a day. The people in question are my parents, the only people I still talk to. I will not move out because of my father and his difficulty balancing (only problem post-stroke that he has, but it might be due to age too, being that he is over 80). I just wished not to say "my parents, because it elicits a different response from some anons. I am on good terms with them and I need to be able to help them. My mother is the one who commented on having no friends and never having a gf. My GPA is whatever, but I am in a hard program anyway.

I do not need a therapist and I would sooner eat dirt than see one because I do not believe in that sort of stuff. You can shove Pink Freud and that lot where the sun doesn't shine, for all I care.
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>>34541119
I'm afraid that's still a bit delusional. You mention your parents in the other post and it's good not to take everything your parents say at a face value but the reason why parents call you a loser is because they want you to do better. It comes back to what I tried to say that you cannot truly be satisfied, humans always strive for something better. Billionaires may be able to sit back and "enjoy" life but even they have to leave the house to do that
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>>34541189
Footnote to this, don't self-isolate, someone else in another thread picked up on my depression and pretty much nailed it when they said I crave meaningful social interactions
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Personally speaking I wouldn't tolerate people calling me a loser at all. I'd tell them to stop and try to work with them a bit, if they don't stop I'd move away and start limiting contact with them until they change.

Imo people that are genuinely supportive will tell you what you're doing wrong without putting you down. If they're an adult they should understand that calling most people a loser repeatedly will impact the other person negatively.
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>>34541189
>>34541194
I guess, but where can I find people I like if I don't like "people" (my age). My hobbies are full of boomers (which I don't mind, but my parents sort of do) and I tend to dislike other anime watchers because, well, if you have seen modern /a/, let alone Plebbit, you will know exactly what I mean and nobody will understand a thing when I talk about Master Keaton, Lost Universe, Kiyo in Kyoto, etc., etc. My parents do not know that I watch anime either and I would rather they were out of the loop in this case. Not to be disingenuous, but rather because liking anime is embarrassing in certain ways.

I do have a goal, which is to finish uni, maybe see if a master's is a viable option and also find some work. It might not sound like a lot, but ultimately, the money that I make would first go to purchasing the burial plot that my father wants (we have had this talk a few times) and then to make sure that my mother can retire. She will likely be in her 70s by retirement, but I will work, so she does not have to. When she is gone, I will likely be quite old, so I will hopefully have some seniority in my field of work that I can enjoy. Otherwise, I do not wish for anything much, though I hope to convince my parents to become a part owner of the house.

My mother and grandmother have been on at me for not having a gf. My grandmother has only brought it up a couple of times and not in a decade (or thereabout). I just do not see a need and though I like the idea of having a family, I just feel that too many people are just too emotional and energetic for my liking.

For the friend aspect, I know where to find them on-line (here and other walled off websites), but where are they IRL?
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>>34541231
Okay I kinda feel you there. I'm not exactly an expert on socializing irl so for me if I try to remember what worked in the past I went to Japanese classes and similar stuff but these things don't remain your hobby for the rest of your life so I guess one always has to keep looking
With the gf too I have little motivation and the women in my life say I need to finally get myself one, now the thing is I live every day of my life as if I am about to fix my life and just 3 more days bro and then I will feel full of energy and want to date women but that energy may be a pipe dream, though I will keep trying to 'fix' my life as in improve my habits, discipline, confidence etc somehow
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>>34541283
I guess I should join some hobby clubs. Most of the women I know (my mother, my grandmother, etc.) do not think that I am ready but they think that I should have at least tried by now. Personally, I see it as something that might just make me miserable. I share so little in common with most guys that I feel like I will have nothing in common with women at all. Dating has not interested me and while it would be nice for someone else to care about me apart from my parents and myself, I doubt that such would ever happen.

I don't like the idea of dating, not because I dislike women, but because I have nothing to offer.
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>>34541309
Christ, dude, you sound even lonelier than me. You know the more I read your posts the more I realize that I am really just barely taking care of my social life aside from my mother. Maybe it's natural to drift into loneliness if you're not careful.
Anyway, don't give up hope. Now that I think about it I can say from experience that every once in a while when I meet other people I feel a bit more alive.
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>>34541354
I should meet someone new and join some clubs. Just will not be anyone my age.

Thanks man. There is one other girl that I know, she works a counter at a restaurant I frequent (they are closed in the summer, though). It would be weird to ask her relationship stuff because "do you want anything else" and "cash or card" is most normal stuff. I am certain she has a bf. She has a somewhat prominent art account that I found on-line.

Women like guys who have something to offer. You are a nice guy and have plenty to offer, so if you want to date, then try it. It is a game of numbers, from what I can tell.
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>>34541382
Trust me, I have nothing that you don't have except, and this is probably the main difference, a few more close friends and family members. But I have a bad habit of not staying in touch with them out of my own initiative, I need to call them more
>I should meet someone new and join some clubs
We both should
>Just will not be anyone my age
That is not a problem in itself, we are all adults after all. And who knows maybe you can find something with people of different ages. Just be careful not to drift into something where you feel like you only show up for the enjoyment of the old folks, I used to sing with my congregation but at some point the peer pressure became too strong because they said they "need a young voice" like me to sing with them so I kinda just stopped going to church lol
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>>34541412
I hear you.

How did you make those friends? My last close friend (purely on-line, though, we lived on the other sides of the World) committed suicide a little over 3 years ago. I have not had IRL friends in 8.5 years. Things fell apart after one guy started inviting this girl who hated my guts and I got pushed out. She trooned out, but the two are still together last I heard (3 years ago).
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>>34541547
> My last close friend committed suicide a little over 3 years ago
>She trooned out, but the two are still together
Yeah that's ducked up. I knew a similar couple. Sorry for your friend.
>How did you make those friends?
Honestly the best friends I still have are old friends from when I was still a kid (mostly classmates), although I'm only in somewhat regular contact with two of them, the others it's max. 1 meetup per year
Then I have "acquaintances" that I meet every other month or so, 1 of them I met in a language course, another I randomly met with in the university canteen, he introduced me to two other people that he knew from a mental health group
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>>34541561
It is fine, death is just another part of life.

I have two acquaintances on-line, one in Europe and the other in the Northeast US. None in real life. When I eat at my university's canteen, I sit alone as usually people are not welcoming to just joining them. I tried a couple of times, but it was incredibly awkward. I moved away halfway through elementary school, lost contact with everyone and became friendless for the rest of elementary school. You have good luck with people, at least compared to me.

I always seemed to have gotten the short end of the stick with friends. I will try to correct that this week. Do you have anything that you can tell me, as far as "acting natural"?
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>>34540876
It is people, who out of dissatisfaction want to lash out on somebody that they think is "inferior" to them.
> What do I do to keep my lifestyle, but not hear this criticism every morning and every night?
Actively avoid them. You'll not be able to satisfy them.
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>>34541590
I see myself in you.
>I tried a couple of times, but it was incredibly awkward
This has happened to me as well. I should mention that I have spent … 6 years at this university and I haven't made any "friends" in class except two guys who I usually sit next to, they're hardly even acquaintances
>Do you have anything that you can tell me, as far as "acting natural"?
Don't try too hard. Your writing style seems a little bit autistic to me but not so much that I could say I'm better, in fact your social skills might be better than mine for all I know. My most awkward experiences happened when I tried to "make" friends, like I would sit next to random people on campus and try to get their contact details or something. I have stopped doing that. That one guy I met in the university canteen, that was complete chance, it turned out we were in the same study program and he would then send me an occasional message on discord before it grew into something more serious. As for the person from the language course, that was actually my Chinese teacher. I think we both had a little bit of a crush on each other and she stayed in touch with me a lot out of her initiative, though now she's in China
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>>34541648
Surprisingly, I am not autistic, just low IQ, which works against me sometimes. My Chinese teachers when I was in school were both rather elderly and I was in elementary school (before I moved living in the NYC metro, some schools require Chinese as a second language).

I cannot say that any girl has truly liked me, though I feel like I would not know. I have seen some make an odd face, not a bad face, but a "short smile" if/when I make eye contact with them. One of them I liked, she was taller than me (mind you I am quite short) and slender. I guess that helps.
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>>34541686
I might as well add that Chinese is my third language that I learned and I grew up speaking English and Russian. I went on to learn a few more languages. My Chinese is very basic, though.
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>>34541789
Interesting. I personally often click with Chinese people, I think the fact that there's a cultural barrier lets me communicate with them more directly than with fellow Westerners
Anyway, I'm personally not so much concerned about women because something tells me that I will be ready when I will be ready. For now I am more concerned about becoming the type of man that is ready, and I might have not prioritized my social life enough
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>>34541799
And, importantly, I should do stuff like going to Chinese class again because for me that was completely optional and turned out to be the right type of environment for me to meet people
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>>34541799
Personally, I am better with Russians, but half of them hate mate (like this one girl from Akhangelsk I tried to befriend... nothing romantic, but I said one wrong thing and she absolutely lost it).

I just cannot bring myself to date actual Asians, even Yakuts or Kazakhs (then again, the one Kazakh I met thought I was weird, since half of my knowledge from Kazakh pop culture is from Old Spice commercials kek and the Yakut I went to school with I never spoke too). Most hate my guts, except for the one guy, he was in HK.

I am not ready either, but I feel that my time could be soon. Maybe, I just need the friend and club situation sorted out, which will be starting next month, then I will be ready. I will have my BS by December and I am pretty much guaranteed to pass, so I am not too worried about that, just worried about what comes afterwards.

By the way, do you have any way that keep in touch with you, after this thread sages?
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>>34540876
Modern day Diogenes of Sinope.

Diogenes was the founder of Cynicism; however, I find that Stoicism fits me better.

Read A Guide to the Good Life: The Ancient Art of Stoic Joy by William Braxton Irvine. He gives good advice on how to be stoic, and chapter 11 specifically deals with how one should address people who insult you. I also higly recommend reading at least PART TWO: STOIC PPSYCHOLOGICAL TECHNIQUES.

>Excerpt From A Guide to the Good Life: The Ancient Art of Stoic Joy
>“Remember,” says Epictetus, “that what is insulting is not the person who abuses you or hits you, but the judgment about them that they are insulting.” As a result, he says, “another person will not do you harm unless you wish it; you will be harmed at just that time at which you take yourself to be harmed.”7 From this it follows that if we can convince ourselves that a person has done us no harm by insulting us, his insult will carry no sting.”
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>>34541843
I will go to the library tomorrow and check out a copy tomorrow. Thank you for the recommendation.
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>>34541830
>By the way, do you have any way that keep in touch with you, after this thread sages?
No offense, but I thought you might ask that and decided that I would rather stay anonymous. But I really enjoyed talking to you. Take care.
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>>34541932
You too. I figured that you would respond with that. It is all part of practice. ;)
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>>34541944
Nta but drop discord yourself, you seem kinda autismo in the good way
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>>34542050
Oh forgot namefag lmao nta ofc
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>>34542050
I will drop a burner E-Mail and that way I can send my Disc securely.

flightsoffancy@int.pl
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>>34540876
>>34541590
If you have no friends but want some, would your relatives be wrong to say you're not living life to the fullest? "loser" is way too harsh but they're probably trying to push you to socialize. So I guess the answer to the question you asked in your first post would be "change your lifestyle because you don't like it anyways".
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>>34542317
I like all but the criticism. I like keeping interactions mostly on-line, for the most part. I don't feel lonely and there is less of a commitment than "going out".
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>>34542054
I tried sending a follow-up, but it seems that the burner is shut down now. The period is part of the username. I just realized that having it at the end might have caused confusion. My apologies. I may not respond until tomorrow morning, since I have to rest now for an early dentist appointment.
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>>34542317
This. Most people don't have your freedom OP, so you just faffing about is going to be annoying if they're busy with their own lives.



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