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I AM A LOSER TOO SHY FOR LIFE AND TOO SHY FOR ONLINE, WHERE DO I EVEN MEET PEOPLE ONLINE?

25M, incel here, yes virgin and no friendship, no sex, no gf, no love. No memories made of anything worthwhile, I've been a shut in for 7 years, still going on now.

I'm so shy I even lurk online, I haven't made online friends either.

OVERINTELLECTUALIZATION. To dissect your thoughts, to dissect your life and vivisect all life experienced. To me the day is a blur of one computer screen showing me many things, reading-games-movies-online-porn-books-etc. One huge zigzag nowhere, hobbies abandoned and mentally explored. Daydreaming, research on what makes me an incel and what other thing the sun carries every day with every single sunset and dawn. What other new excuse or new thing to focus on and see myself as lesser for or worse than. Day after day. I've never cried at being alone and having no girlfriend or sex or friends. I have felt...little. I have memories of even less on my feelings.

I don't allow myself to be spontaneous even alone. I tried drawing with love and got burnt out, I never drew anything I wanted to actually write, for fun. Just endless practice, endless grinding fundamentals but never anything fun or personal. I am ashamed of being someone who exists and takes space and volume in life. I am ashamed of having been born for the reasons I endlessly research (oh not tall enough, not hot enough, your face, your looks, this and that) and the more honest that I just carry a huge sense of embarrassment about merely being.

I don't allow myself to feel, I dissect. I analyze, I research, I ponder and ponder and probe and with "analysis" the rape of any emotion that could surface. I don't know what to do. I...thought of volunteering, an easy way to get out, meet people or be around people.

I haven't had online nor irl friends ever..what to do? and what to do to solve my problem?
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heres my /soc/ thread
>>>/soc/35047391
my face i was rated 4/10 i agree by wheat waffles

>>>/soc/35047706
and some relevant /lit/ posts
>>>/lit/25285980
>>>/lit/25286294
>>>/lit/25285961
>>>/lit/25285950
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Ignored by /adv/ for being ugly, incel and nonwhite its over. FOR LIKING duran duran
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Every adv poster, torture and murder to them.
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/adv/ didn't give me a single reply
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>>34544216
>>34544243
>>34544261
Calm down, fret not, I am here. Is your actual problem shyness and the inability to take action? What have you made to change your current situation besides "thinking"?
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>>34544297
Yes, that plus my lack of even knowing my own emotions. My bad looks prevent me having friends let alone a relationship. I have investigated rigorously just how inferior I am, all guys I saw online. Well, most are bettter looking than me when i see with a couple, independent of height and race. Then even uglier guys than me have friends and a couple. The problem is the usual lookism. I was rated 4/10 by a reputed looksmaxxer, wheat waffles and other such servers and subreddits. it tracks my lived experience

I have even studied astrology and find that the serious astrology matches to my troubles perfectly

thoughts?
from the unemtoional thing and my 7 years as a shut in to the rest. thanks btw sorry about wanting to eat you nothing personal
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>>34544315
>My bad looks prevent me having friends let alone a relationship
Where ware you from? Where do you live? I don't think people care that much about your appearance when it comes to friendship, but rather, how you make them feel.
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>>34544315
>thoughts?
Unless you are Indian/Southeast Asian in a western country, I do not think your looks have anything to do with it, and if you are Indian/Southeast Asian and in a western country, it has more to do with the history of behavior of immigrants from that area and their current reputation... If you are, you cannot do anything to change who you are, you will have to accept your shortcomings and compensate in other ways.

>thanks btw sorry about wanting to eat you nothing personal
Where did this idea of eating people came from? Is this something you really think about? This may be a much serious problem than all the others.
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>>34544420
of course it matters, feels like no on wants me around, i havent left my home in 7 years now my hair the only thing wheat waffles said its good about me is thinning its so over. plus ill never get a gf...im mad about people byut im not really mad i cant feel that im mad
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>>34543462
Do you have a job? I'm not saying it'll get better if you do, but the thing is I've had similar depression through my 20's but what I did was working OT and not spending much. Now that I'm in my 30's my life has improved but this improvement is partially thanks to the living conditions(own apartment, car, motorcycle) I was able to afford due to having a job.
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>>34544432
>my hair the only thing wheat waffles said its good about me is thinning
Take finasteride + minoxidil + micro needling if needed.


>of course it matters
I never said looks do not matter, but they do not when it comes to friendship. A man does not care how you look, they care about the content you have, of course it's easy if you are handsome, people will treat you differently with all the halo effect affecting their judgement. But it does not mean someone hideous cannot make friends.

>feels like no on wants me around
>i havent left my home in 7 years
So how do you know nobody wants you around if you have not left home in 7 years? It seems to me that you are suffering from a lack of trying, and you are trying to blame your looks. I had many bad looking friends, they eventually drifted away on their own volition.
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>>34544449
>>34544431
I am a 4/10 rated by reputed looksmaxxers. SUB 5 is give up tier. Do not lie to me foid.
Im worse than that in the eyes of people, latin american of some type and native.

Rage, I have very strong anger. So I want to eat people because people dont like me and never have. Its not sexual yet sensual fixation on eating people. After 7 years of solitude and a life of no human contact, you too would be strange.
my looks are too poor to go out, i have studied this a lot


read this short exprience i have
>I...thought of volunteering, an easy way to get out, meet people or be around people. But I couldn't quite do it. I am obviously insecure about my looks that I consider poor so I consider myself inferior. I don't want to inconvenience others nor be vulnerable. Being seen is a nightmare for me. I went out of my home weeks ago to spy and watch from afar. I was tracking online a volunteer group from my city, i wanted to see what the people looked like from a far. Saw a lot of people my age, gen z, 20s, etc, women some cute, some ok, the guys mogged me. i quickly left.

>>34544443
ill be old by then...
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>>34544502
>Do not lie to me foid.
I am not a woman you imbecile.

>I am a 4/10 rated by reputed looksmaxxers. SUB 5 is give up tier
Then why are you making me waste my time on this garbage tier thread if you are not even going to try it?

>my looks are too poor to go out
i have studied this a lot
You are an absolutely moron. The real problem is not your looks, it is definitely your behavior and your lookout on life. That is something much harder to overcome than just looks, if it was simply looks a lot of plastic surgeries could fix it, but with a problem like yours, you have to look inside yourself and see what you are lacking.
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I think you need to try therapy, a male therapist.

Volunteering would be good. So would martial arts, that's great for people who are angry inside (it's amazing for me). I do BJJ because I don't want to take blows to the head.

But therapy is the main one, fixing serious paychological problems like this is basically impossible solo.
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>>34544315
Idk bro I was in a store and this little fat fucking Jewish guy with a reddit face and glasses wearing like a retarded outfit like confidentially was hitting on this hot ass basically a teenager and was just rizzing her the fuck up it was insane. So idk
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>>34544502
>ill be old by then..
You'll be old anyway. 15 years olds think you're old already
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>>34544557
So you want a fucking cannibal to start BJJ? Great idea.
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>>34544599
I also said therapy. I also believe getting creamed in BJJ will do him good.
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>>34544599
i only have cannibal urges bceause i feel ignored
i had to beg people to post on my thread you all had ignored it otherwise ever since yesterday
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>>34544657
>you all had ignored it otherwise ever since yesterday
Look, I did not ignore you, I had not even seen your thread. You have a problem, you think that you are the center of the universe and that everything will fall on your lap. It won't. The problem is not your looks, but your inaction. I have already said this. How can you expect to find real life friends if you don't go outside? Seven years, seven fucking years. Do you understand how long this is? As other anons have said, you need to go outside, you need to volunteer, you need to find work, you need to seek therapy. The problem is not your looks, it never was.
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>>34544800
Yeah, you need therapy. I also recommend the book The Courage to Be Disliked so you learn to not care about what people think about you.
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>>34544829
>over as soon as you turn 18 and leave the school system without a well established social circle
Shut up I'll make friends in uni
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>>34544867
>maybe youre right its too late to change
Do not let that tard get into your head. He is copying and pasting this for years because he does not have the will to change and misery loves company. You are 25, it is not too late, but you have to take action, I encourage you to do so. Volunteering, going outside. Do not assume the worst, you are being pessimist, but you should be a rational optimist. You do not have friends not because you are ugly, but because you have checked out of society. Find a job, volunteer, talk to people, even a good morning will do, if they do not reply, say it out loud. Scream if possible.
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>>34544814
It's probably gonna take a few years, but it's doable. I wasn't quite as deep in the pit as you, but fairly deep. And I suppose I haven't yet achieved my goal of getting a girlfriend, but it feels like I'm ready now, now it's just a matter of getting lucky...
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>>34543462
>25M, incel here, yes virgin and no friendship, no sex, no gf, no love. No memories made of anything worthwhile, I've been a shut in for 7 years, still going on now.
>I'm so shy I even lurk online, I haven't made online friends either.
>I...thought of volunteering, an easy way to get out
It would help to be socialized first. I was in the same situation as you up to age 27. Talked to my doctor about it and he referred me to an art therapy program (optional prompts where you try different forms of art in a classroom, circle before and after with a checkin prompt and a chance to share what you made after). Had a panic attack and sperged out the first day when asked to share. Anxiety slowly dissipates as you participate and share more, but it happens very slowly. Medication helps too. Other forms of group therapy from my experience were classes where you're taught skills to manage anxiety, depression, and be more active in your life. What helps most is having a place where you can go to be social around other people like yourself. It took me three years to find somewhere like that, and 4 more months to start actually socializing and engaging with the people there. 4 years after leaving my room I made my first friend. Seek therapy, talk to a doctor. It's not as easy as most people will tell you but it's better than rotting and losing any chance of a better life.
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>>34543462
I can add you somewhere if you want. What platforms do you have? i don’t feel exactly the same but definitely see some of that
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>>34545569
i use discord
signal too
>>34545244
it got better? yeah i just need to actually socialize, its going to be hard i know. i lost all that practice
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op here my discord is ashasaly



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