>>34773634
If you feel it is fair for you to try to "steal" her, you are also making it fair for someone else to do the same to you. And thats the world you will live in. In reality, she is a human being and not something to be possessed. Any attempt to take her will just result in you being rejected. She is clearly happy in her relationship. Its time to move on anon. Research shows the only reason she seems so incredible to you is because you feed that by obsessing over her.

You are wasting your time. If she leaves him for you, she will leave you for another one. I have never personally done this, but a friend of mine did, and it turned out this way. Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think that I am.

>>34773634
I'm sorry but what makes you think you can steal her? I know you probably don't want this questioned, but I argue this is exactly the thing that MUST be discussed:
You can't steal her, you can't have her. Your delusions of grandeur are just delusions, they will never come into reality. Reality is that you're sitting on your ass right now, on your cum chair, typing up fantasy for a bunch of internet moids on 4chan.

Your question at its basis, shows how delusional you are. For you to come here and ponder the moral justification for committing an act, in order to see if you'll commit that act. Brother, you CAN'T get this girl, there's nothing to ponder her, no moral dilemma, nothing of substance was asked. Just a power fantasy in your head that will never come true.
You can continue to jizz on your cum chair with your right hand, you can continue pursuing other girls, but that one isn't yours and she will likely never be yours. Because several modifiers stacked against you:
1) she has a boyfriend
2) you're already head over heels for her meaning she senses this (trust me, she senses this. Girls aren't stupid when it comes to this and this alone.)

The ONLY WAY you can get her is if she's boyfriendless, and you're EXTREMELY HOT to the point where she will get over your clinginess and desperation and make a move on you. Plus she's far away??
It's over dude, it's over and you need someone in your life to be your wake up call - you're stagnating in life thinking about a girl to the point where you made a post on 4chan about it. I've been there before, maybe over a decade ago. Don't do this. Do something better with your life. And clean your cum chair to avoid awkward situations

>>34773649
You're correct about the whole feeding the obsession bit, and that I have some amount of control in how I think or feel about her, but I am not in any way concerned with possessing her. I want to connect with her, big difference. Maybe I worded it poorly, comparing her to a drug and what not, but she's brilliant and ambitious, and I love that about her. I don't just crave her, she inspires me. I'm not finna make her a stay at home housewife or anything. I just want her to be a bigger part of my life and vice versa. It doesn't have to be happily ever after, I just want to enjoy the present with her. If she ends up leaving me for someone else six months down the line, I'll take it. It's a carpe diem kinda mindset.

>>34773696
Little bit vulgar, but I must admit, solid advice.

>2) you're already head over heels for her meaning she senses this (trust me, she senses this. Girls aren't stupid when it comes to this and this alone.)
>you're EXTREMELY HOT to the point where she will get over your clinginess and desperation and make a move on you.
I don't really think of myself as hot, and I don't want to brag, but for whatever reason, girls have always really liked me. In fact, she was the one who originally approached me and got close to me, not the other way around, not a rare occurrence in my life. I thought she was single because of how much she orbited me, only learned two weeks in she wasn't, but then it was too late for me.

You're not wrong about almost everything else though, except the cum chair, wtf. I am a degenerate, like I said, she's too good for me. I guess I just came here in a futile attempt to clear my conscience, but you're right. Either I suck it up and find someone else, or I accept being an asshole, no inbetween.

Seriously though, why are we cool with Spike doing the same thing though, to his best friend even? At least I don't even know my crush's boyfriend, for all I know she's too good for him as well.

>>34773634
"Justifiable" does not lead to reproduction or copulation

>>34773634
Love and war, brother. No whining once you join the pvp lobby though.

>>34774294
>pvp lobby
This

>>34773634
Friend any woman with a pulse is only single because she wants too.
You will never find a woman that is truly single single, so just go ahead and take her from him if you can. It is all a game anyway women will leave for a better option even if they never left another man before, what they do is they just break up with you before going for the other man so in her mind she is blameless.
Anyway if you can take her take her.

>>34773634
Think of it this way anon, from his perspective he is getting cucked while from your perspective you're getting another man's used goods.

>>34773634
You can try but
> I will almost definitely make her life worse after the fact,
Why the fuck would she want you for

>>34773748
So you think she actually likes you, then just do it, she can choose to monkey-branch. If she says no you can end your stupid limerence and move on. And quit talking of Chinese cartoons, pretty sure nobody thought that in particular was cool at all

>>34773634
If she's perfect and a good woman. She'll probably tell you to leave her alone.

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>>34774885
>Why the fuck would she want you for
I'm superficially charming, but very dysfunctional. I am on 4chan after all.

>So you think she actually likes you, then just do it, she can choose to monkey-branch.
She definitely likes me, but tbqh probably just as a friend; she's almost too friendly to be attracted, practically zero friction, which honestly does not really bode well. The ambiguity is killing me. In truth, I like her so much as a person, I'm seriously afraid of jeopardizing our friendship by making a move, as girly as that sounds.

>If she says no you can end your stupid limerence and move on.
Moving on is probably the wise decision, but like I said, I wonder if we can stay friends, I can look for other women, and my feelings will gradually cool with time. I know cutting all contact is an effective way to curb limerence, but I acfually enjoy having platonic female friends, and she's just so cool.

>And quit talking of Chinese cartoons, pretty sure nobody thought that in particular was cool at all
Cowboy Bebop is kino, and Spike is universally beloved. Him stealing Julia from Vicious is not incidental, it's a core part of his character. Falling in love with a taken woman is an archetypal part of the male experience. Clearly, we as humans can easily sympathize with this situation.

>>34774299
Yeah, it's become a cliche among men online to repeat the phrase "she's not yours, it's just your turn", but tbqh, is this really all that bad? I get that divorce can be hard on kids, but if two people share a few good years before they just grow apart or find other people that give their life new meaning, is that really a failed relationship? I honestly don't think so. If you had two good years, you had two good years. That's a net gain in my eyes. People change, and no one can predict what the future holds. I don't believe in happily ever after, the only thing that exists is the present, and for me, the present is that spending time with her makes my day better.

>>34773634
you're over thinking this. just do it. if some friends involved that's still with it, that you also respect, bring it up to them.
it's not weird to like someone even if they are/were taken.

>>34773704
take if from me bro I obsessed over a girl for 4 years, I thought she was perfection incarnate. it ruined my life. it just got worse and worse until eventually I couldn't take the agony of not being with her anymore and forced myself to move, remove her from facebook, stop myself any time i think about her. i don't think it's healthy to obsess over someone romantically because even if you get with them they will never meet that overhyped version of them you created with your mind. it will lead to all kinds of resentment and stuff. not good for the mental, to say the least

>>34775825
If it ends with one or both parties hating each other then it's not a good relationship. That's what people seem to overlook.

>>34775875
I dunno, maybe the hate is just temporary. Women in particular often hate the men they love the most. If one of them ends up killing the other, then I accept it as a thoroughly bad relationship, but profound passion often comes with friction and tension. It's like that "what do you want" scene from The Notebook, girls love that shit.

Its not about whether its wrong or not,but if she ends up monkeybranching from him to you that's a huge red flag in and of itself.

>>34773634
How do you know that she won't do the same thing to you?

>>34775825
if divorce laws weren't so extremely debilitating for the man and the child support payments that come with it I would agree with you. But as it stands divorce is just a horrific economic weapon that women use on men to hurt them.
I know so many older gen x male colleagues living with roomates or living in complete squalor due to divorce that it made me strongly oppose getting married.
And also men take it harder than women because women can easily bounce back due to them having the male paying for them with government enforcement and also the fact that women attract partners much more often and quicker than men, realistically as a man you only ever really meet one or two women who are attracted to you a year, women find that in a hour.
So it kinda stings as a man that this person that you have invested so much time and money and hard work on is just turning you into a wageslave child support and alimony payer and takes away all the affection that they used to give you.

>>34773634
Orbiting a taken chick is some lame shit. Just live your life and meet more women. If she becomes available then shoot your shot if you want.
But actively trying to sabotage a relationship is lame shit. Trying to steal someone's women is wack. Additionally, a woman who is likely to cheat is not worth being with, and you shouldn't be surprised if said partner ends up cheating on, or leaving you in the same manner.
tl;dr - don't be a faggot

>>34773634
Kind of in a similar situation rn, hung out with her for the first time in a little over a year and started listening to music on the drive to and home from work again which sounds gay as fuck but I listen to podcasts most of the time cause I need something to fill the void, lmao. I haven't had a crush like this in YEARS. Hanging out with her is the most fun I've had with another human since like fuckin highschool. It's honestly kind of a surreal feeling. Like you said, getting laid isn't the problem, finding someone worth hanging out with AFTER the fact is.

I don't really know how I feel about intentionally pursuing another guys girl because I know how fucking frustrating and irritating it is on the other side. I pride myself on being a decent guy. I also know that there is a real chance they could do the same to us, which begs the question why bother? Is it worth getting hurt? A few years ago I would've said let sleeping dogs lie, more recently it feels more appropriate to say fuck it and pursue what you want at almost all costs. It doesn't sound like youre freinds with her boyfriend, and neither am I in my case (despite him sounding like an okay dude).

Will you go the distance should you drag her away from her current man? Who the fuck knows. Is it better to find out, or carry on in life and let the crush fade?

Idk dude I guess I don't really have any good advice, but I feel you. I get where you're coming from.

>>34776608
in fact I'm gonna plug my own faggy thread ITT: >>34764465 .

Maybe we're pining after the same girl? I'm not gonna lie, part of me wonders "does she intentionally do this to guys?". That would be fuckin hilarious and would give us both a very quick answer of "leave well enough alone", lol.

>>34773634
Yes bro, if the woman chooses you then she's yours.

>>34773748
Forsooth, say I, I'm glad that my advice was helpful.
In truth, upon reading this post, I think you have the correct idea and attitude regarding this girl. What I would advise, and this is unorthodox, but again this is coming from someone who USED TO have a cum-chair: be opportunistic. The next time a girl is into you, take it. Don't question bf, don't question her intentions, just get it on. It's not on you to police the girls.
I'm sorry that I'm giving this advice, because tomorrow it could be my girl that is cheating on me with you. But do you think I'd blame you?
I'd want you dead, but I would blame her way more than you. So I would be opportunistic, this is your destiny as a hunter, as a man. As unfortunate as it is, it's true. Get given an offer, take it. Don't self cuck.

Also I have no idea who Spike is, it's some gay American TV thing?

TLDR
IGNORE AND REMOVE DEMORALIZATION THREADS
Judge whoever made this thread as a manipulative conniving Weasley person that you only want to remove and get away from.

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>>34776754
how is this a demoralization thread?

>>34776519
You are right about almost everything, especially how lame it is to orbit a taken woman instead of chasing singles, but it's not really cheating if the woman leaves her man for someone else, it's only cheating if she does it behind is back without breaking it off.
>Just live your life and meet more women
It is good advice, but I have met a lot of women in my life, and this one is exceptional. Imagine prime Zoey Deschanel, but cuter, more etheral, more feminine, passionate, deeply smart, and just the right amount of weirdness. She's just really difficult to move on from. She just came into my life at the exact right time, got real close to me, gazed into my eyes and said all the right things. It's as if the universe went "Here you go, bro. A manic pixie dream girl that mirrors your inner monologue." It feels almost like a cosmic prank. Of course I fell for her. What man wouldn't?

I know I sound like a faggot typing this out, but goddamn, I need to vent.

>>34776734
Now THAT is some based advice. My neuroticism is my Achilles' heel, especially regarding women.

Also, you should really watch Cowboy Bebop. It's one of the only socially acceptable animes for a grown man to like, and for good reason. I'm not a weeb, I can count on one hand animes I've watched, and Bebop is truly excellent.

yea it's immoral
what do you need reassurance for?
just do it and stop trying to justify it in your head

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>>34782815
who are you replying to?
not a single post in nearly 2 days has been replied to.
OP is long gone.

>>34773649
>Any attempt to take her will lead to rejection.
Not if he's hot and has charisma and the ability to subtly manipulate her into liking him more. She'd also have to be a little bit disloyal.

Also, even if he doesn't "steal" another man's girl, that doesn't mean it can't happen to him. Life doesn't care about what is fair, so even if he plays fair, he may find himself by pure chance in a situation where things aren't fair to him. Doesn't mean I'm saying he should go after a "taken" woman, but my grandpa did. She was with an abusive husband, he got her out. She was his 3rd wife and they were together for over 40 years until she died. Seems like that's way more rare these days of course. My parents divorced, tried dating other people, but never really found anyone. I've only had one girlfriend and I ended it due to location distance, it wasn't ever serious.

>>34782822
No no, I'm still here. It's a slow board, I'm not on here all day, I just drop in whenever I have time to kill.

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>>34783241
you haven't replied to anyone in 36 hours. you gotta feed the fire to stoke conversation.
there's been 35 replies also. like what do you still need help with?

>>34782925
>Not if he's hot and has charisma and the ability to subtly manipulate her into liking him more. She'd also have to be a little bit disloyal.
My problem is definitely the second part. Like I've said several times, she is absolutely perfect, which means she has a loyal and trusting personality. I am a charming guy, people have been saying that about me since I was in kindergarten, but she's just too good to be won over simply by charm when she's already devoted to someone else. Sort of an unstoppable force meets an immovable object situation. She also deserves way more than I can give her, so there's that.

>>34783299
but she's single now right? (not rereading everything)
just pursue her, and change yourself to give her what she wants. you can at least try to run the gauntlet.
iirc people keep telling you the same thing. you might as well try, and if it fails, it gives you some closure to move on.

>>34783255
No, I stopped by briefly last night, but I've been busy lately. Honestly though, there's really not much more to say than what has already been said. I either let go and accept that I might forever wonder what might have been, or I embrace being the bad guy who always puts himself first and says fuck everyone else. There really is no inbetween. Well, there is being a perpetual beta orbiter, but that sounds even more loathsome and miserable than the bad guy option.

>>34783310
>but she's single now right? (not rereading everything)
Not single. If she were, this would be a no-brainer. I've never met her boyfriend, but my impression is that it is a stable relationship that has lasted for years.

>>34783316
you have to be willing to sacrifice the friendship if you want to try and take things forward. if she's been with this person for years, and it seems stable, your odds are pretty low.
if you want to calculate them, next time you talk just ask about it. i mean you gotta take some risk. she might ask why if you ask how things are going. just say you're curious or whatever.
if you say you want to be with her though, and she says no, it will make things awkward as long as her relationship lasts.
so the question is, are you willing to risk it, and how far are you willing to test things?

>>34779934
>Bebop slop
Thank you fren, I can also count the animes I've watched on SIGHTLY more than one hand so 2 hands.
The only thing I know from cowboy bebop is the legendary soundtrack "cat blues" because I play space station 13 and it's the music that used to play in the jukebox at nights when I died and took on a stranded bartender role and spent the next couple hours listening to it while devising a way to escape and working on it.
It's a great track, I'll keep it in mind

And yeah man what can I say, after my ex dumped me in the dirt and cheated on me and left me for the man she intentionally sought behind my back and is still with him to this day exactly 2 years later to this day August 1st 2024: I'm completely in line with the advice I gave. If a girl offers me to fuck, offers me love, I'll take it. I'll take it and I'll take it again from another girl if she offers and I won't feel bad because I know how evil girls are at their core, as who they are as a sex. The mantis female uses the man for his sperm; then eats him for sustenance. The human female does much of the same, except it's a much longer, slower, more arduous process, where she also manipulates the man and robs him of his mental faculties and good judgement when it comes to her.

It is terrible, so, next girl, and cheat on.

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>>34775863
I think I’m finally getting over a girl after 4 years. I never liked an autistic girl before but she was like Aubrey Hepburn in breakfast at Tiffany’s.

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>>34784344
She kind of looked like this autistic Dutch girl.

Morality aside if she was going to let you fuck her and leave her current bf for you, you would not be on 4chan asking about it. Cheating women are incredibly direct.

You need to let go of the idea that being with this girl is the only thing that will make you happy. It's a one of the most retarded things that society has ever pushed on young men. You also need to let go of the idea that you are only worth anything if a woman wants you.

>>34773634
>Is it ever justifiable to steal another man's girl?
If he beats her up, maybe. Otherwise, no. And honestly, if she's the kind of woman who can be "stolen", it will be just as easy for someone else to "steal" her from you. Is that what you want?