What is /htgwg/?How to Get Women General is by men, for men, about women, so bring all of your questions about getting and dealing with women here. Some anons on this site actually get laid, and some of them even want to help. If you're trying to meet and date women, then this is the place to ask questions, seek advice, and share experiences. We know how hard it can be. We got you bro.>What is /htgwg/ not?These threads are NOT for whining, moping, incels, volcels, MGTOW, hopelessness, or demoralization. We're all aware that meeting and dating women is hard today, and even harder for some, but /htgwg/ is for trying to overcome the challenges. IGNORE the posters who complain, give up, or insist there's nothing they can do. This site has other boards and threads that they can pollute. BE SMART: Spot the bait, don't reply, and DON'T WASTE TIME ARGUING WITH THEM!>How to ask for adviceContext is important: be more specific than "This girl ghosted me, why?" We can't help if we don't know the situation, so try to provide as much (useful) info as possible ("I was at the bar, this chick was checking me out..."). What's your relationship with the girl? How long have you known her? Any conversation screenshots? Etc... Don't forget to ask an actual question.>Resources and Bookshttps://wingman.live/ (AI dating coach)https://pdfcoffee.com/318797392-mark-manson-models-2016pdf-4-pdf-free.htmlhttps://archive.org/details/robert-glover-no-more-mr-nice-guy-id-353324692-size-612https://www.youtube.com/@HealthyGamerGGhttps://www.youtube.com/@YourWingmamhttps://www.doctornerdlove.com/blog/https://pastebin.com/7U5Sdhwq (Leykis 101)https://dokumen.pub/why-women-deserve-less-firstnbsped-1467978302-r-1917433.htmlhttps://www.fantasticanachronism.com/p/how-to-be-good-at-datingREMEMBER: It's good to read and prepare, but don't overdo it. Get off this site: go learn and build up your social skills by meeting actual women in the real world.Previous: >>34960578
I know girls really like when you approach them with humor to break the tension and show your interest, but I have a really hard time doing that. I usually stick with the "just thought you were super cute and just wanted to speak to you", - to mixed results - but it comes off as stiff at times, and I'd like to be more relaxed and expressive... but I can't seem to get out of my head to do so. Any tips? A good introduction really sets the tone for the interaction.
>>34975510if you dont have humour, be casual, youre right about looking too stiff, I thinkgo to a Third place with a date thats setup, or maybe a social event with a specific purpose.
>>34975510You're focusing too much on what you don't have. We all have qualities Chad has, but it just is we have some that are a bit more than others. I bet you're probably someone from a rough background, and boom that is a Chad quality for example. Think about that.
>>34975480consider the following
The married woman im messing with started ghosting my flirty msgs. I don't want to push further so she doesnt block me or tell her husband but how can i win her back? Right now im msging every week to try catch her during ovulation
>>34975510I donât see an issue with being direct, but as you pointed out itâs important to be loose and expressive. If youâre just chilling then randomly approach a girl you probably are going to be a bit in your head. One way to get over this is by approaching more girls. Itâs not uncommon for guys to do this to approach 10 or more girls in a row and unsurprisingly you will be way looser on number 10. Though this is a bit much for a lot of people. Honestly you should get on dating apps. If you are already dating, and actively messaging, calling, voice noting women or whatever then youâre already in lots of conversations. Approaching is a lot easier, especially with this confidence boost. Itâs rough because you probably rarely approach girls then have to turn it âonâ suddenly. Thereâs a lot more to it but should be a good start. Also start being mindful of when you just feel looser in your normal life. You could do something to get you looser before you even go to the bar.
>>34975480i just wanna add that if you are attempting to get women at your job its an immediate no. got asked for my socials twice at a grocery store & my bank
Dating puts you face to face with how much of a man you are. Thatâs why itâs so stressful. If you didnât have the best upbringing, surprise surprise that can affect your dating life even as an adult. Your fucking childhood levels of confidence are still with you now. Some people are so fucked and the reality that they suck with women causes them to develop all these weird theories about women and why they canât get laid. How much of a man are you is the question. And if you arenât very man then buckle up for a long journey of rejections and trying to figure out why the fuck this is such a struggle. If you really WANT to get laid you will but youâre in conflict. You think you want to get laid but you have all these conflicting desires, unsure about yourself, not comfortable with your sexuality, insecurities and such. These are all fucking with your desire to get laid. Then you see some fucking idiot guys that donât have these hangups and they will be fucking really hot women with ease. This really goes a lot deeper than women, just all this stuff comes into your face when you are trying to get women. Itâs about your ability to get what you want, what you believe you deserve and are worth. And a lot of guys donât even think they deserve much. But they will blame other things. So when your intention to meet a girl or have sex is really clear, you are going to find women. When your intention isnât prepare for the struggle to clarify it.
Never look for an easy way out when falling in love.
Tips for hinge?
>>34975510I think that being direct with your intentions is a good thing and your example isn't inherently stiff (but it's not great either) so I would assume that it's your delivery that's the problem. Is there any reason you can't say that (or a similar opener) while feeling relaxed and expressive? Do you struggle with the rest of the conversation after the introduction?
>>34975480does anyone have that one free quiz about how to be a good man or how to have a good relationship? it was from a guy who dated and married a very trad christian girl.
Have a few irons in the fire here lads. Idk how it's possible that I've ended up with a decent selection I can choose from on these apps. I'm just average looking, but in shape, pics are average nothing special either. I'm 31 and matching mostly mid to late 20s. I live in between 2 cities so every date is a bit of a journey.>Native chick 1, looks chubby but big tits, really easy to talk to and text, but lives far away. Texting for the last week pretty heavily, wanted to meet her this weekend but couldn't so probably will next weekend.>Native chick 2, similar to chick 1, looks chubby and kinda mid, but genuinely the best texter I've talked to. She is working today and something tomorrow, but will get something arranged with her.>Danish chick, met her last night half way between, not that hot, just started masters degree here. But she was very into me, eventually get her back to my car after a few hours while we are waiting for the bus and start kissing and touching her for a while.>Eastern European but lived here since a child, probably the hottest chick I've matched with on the apps. Her conversation is dreadful and because I've had some options I honestly wanted to drop her. So I just yolo'd it gave her my number and told her to text me and see what we can arrange, hoping she'd not be arsed, but she did. She still keeps the conversation going, but is so fucking shit at texting it's unreal and its not a language barrier issue, she's fluent and probably has a similar accent.So this leaves me in a position where, my 2 favourites live far away but in a similarish location. So my plan for them is to try and go back to back next Saturday. Then the Danish chick is literally dtf the next time I see her, but I probably need to travel to her to do that, but she's the opposite direction. Which leaves Eastern European chick that I just need to dump off because her conversation is so bad. This isn't me bragging at all. I only went on my first dating app date in May.
I've never been an intuitive guy, I'm someone who learns by watching others, dissecting it, understanding it, then implementing and ultimately improving it. Which is to say, if I could attach a mic on someone super successful with girls and see how they conversate and what they do when approaching and hanging out with girls, that's all I would need.
>>34975576Best reply, thanks. I always get more "tense" when I've been out of the talking game for a while but it gets easier after just doing it and fumbling the first one>>34976160Oh yeah there's nothing wrong with my reply and its not all the time that I'm stiff about it, it just depends on my moodRest of the conversation usually depends on how receptive she is to my approach, although I tend to stick with relatively safe questions like where shes from, how long shes been here, her religion, stuff like that. As a Christian, those things are important to me. I'd like to be a bit funnier cause I am a funny guy but that will just come with increased volume I suppose>>34976601Maybe this has worked for you so far with a lot of things in life but its really just advanced mimicry and not the real you. Your tuition will take you farther in life, especially in unfamiliar situations, and bring you more in touch with who you are inside and in the world.Moreover you sound mad corny and egotistical. You don't need shit except to learn how to be yourself and accept the potential of rejection while finding out who you are, because we're simply not compatible with most women, and them turning us down doesn't make us any less of men. Go ahead and get off that "mic on a successful guy" idea, you're overcomplicating it and putting another mans testicles on a pedestal
>>34976569>This isn't me bragging at all. I only went on my first dating app date in May.>I'm just average looking, but in shape,turns out maybe the "safe bet" is the thing women want.what does your profile say?
Staid up until 3am chatting with a woman I met last night at a work event, nerdily loredumping into each other after everyone else had left or gone to bed. Then we said bye and went home separately. I'm autistic and have no idea how to read "clues" or make "moves". Nice. Crushing hard on her. She's very well read and smart.
Even if you attribute everything to prudence and virtue and discount as much as possible the power of fortune you must at least admit that it is very important to be born or to live in a time that prizes highly the virtues and qualities in which you excel. Take the example of Fabius Maximus whose great reputation resulted from his being by nature hesitant. He found himself in a war in which impetuousity was ruinous whereas procrastination was useful. At another time the opposite could have been true his times needed his qualities and that was his fortune. To be sure if a man could change his nature to suit the conditions of the times he would be much less dominated by fortune but that is most difficult and perhaps even impossible.
Reminder that she expects you to hit on her.Beautiful women don't fuck cowards.
Regarding monkey branch, how do women lock in and actually do the move?What's the sign that tells them "yeah do it now"I just realized I might be in the middle of it.
>>34976973If she keeps looking at your lips, shoulders, faces you directly, laughs at stupid shit, etc. then she's digging the vibe. It not enough to get you across the finish line 100% of the time but it's a good tell.
>>34976957I use Tinder and Hinge. Tinder I don't have any info or interests put in, it's just pictures. As I said, just in shape but nothing amazing. Hinge my prompts are niche, one in particular is about a very specific historical event and it gets the most traction. It's just volume to getting matches, and then I've gotten better over time at talking. So anybody who starts talking back to me with 5+ messages I'd expect maybe a 50% hit rate of getting to a date if I wanted to. I swipe right on everything and send out a lot of hinge matches, but I'll filter out 3/4 of what I match with.
simping for a chick in therapyhow retarded on a scale of 1 to 10?
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IntentionApproaching a girl when you donât feel like it just because âI need to approach a girl to get laidâ wonât work. Messaging a girl because âI need to message a girl to get laidâ wont work either. You have to be 100% aligned towards âI am doing this because I truly and actually want to meet this woman or get this womanâ. Anything less than that youâre fucked. Many fail at approaching because they kindve want to but they kindve dont and then they just force themselves to do it, this âforcingâ a woman can feel and she senses âwhat the fuck is going on here, why is this guy who seems like he doesnât want to talk to me be talking to meâ - she figures you are confused, hiding something, or whatever and she will not respond to you well. 100% alignment in I am doing this because I want her not because I should be doing this or because doing this is the right thing for me to do, itâs I WANT this. Now all of sudden, not every girl will say yes but now many girls are saying yes. Because your signal is clear, you want her, she will decide yes or no - much better than having a fucked up and confused signal where the girl has no idea what you actually want from her.
Iâm finding it harder and harder to pull out. The last girl I was with was a close call in terms of my self-control. The girl Iâm talking to now is up there as one of the hottest Iâve dated. If this works out, itâs over for me.
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>>34977868100%. I know it sucks and most people are tired of hearing it, but you do have to be comfortable being alone and single. Do not try to force a connection. You want them to be with you because they actually want too, not because they owe you or because they are forced too.
>>34975480>https://pastebin.com/7U5Sdhwq (Leykis 101)This is the most retarded thing I have ever read. Why is this in the OP?
