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I have always and dogs ang I bought a cat for the first time. My friends also have cats and I think they're basically retarded or autistic. They stay in absurd position for hour or keep looking the wall where nothing happen. you call them and they don't come. When you pour water for the 1000th time in the pot and they look like it's the first time they see some magic fluid. Yeah I think they're definitely retarded animals.
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>>5025040
Lol melted cat. Yeah they're pretty instinctual and rarely exhibit behavior above those instincts. Sometimes, but definitely not that much.
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They are just not socially equipped like dogs. Cats are solitary animals who literally view you as a surrogate parent. They are also less domestically developed compared to dogs if you look at their history of development around humans. Give it another 100 years and they will all act like siamese cats
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my cat also seems don't like to be touched or petted. when you take it in your arms always try to escape. and he eats only 1 type of food nothing else even if tier 1 quality (fish, meat, etc...). really weird.
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>>5025040
dogfag propaganda
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>>5025046
>my cat also seems don't like to be touched or petted. when you take it in your arms always try to escape
Was it a resuce? Cats that go feral for a portion of time are like that. My father's cat used to be semi-feral and it took 6 years for him to approach you for fuss without being tetchy
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>>5025040
Anon, dogs are literally mentally retarded and physically deformed slaves who have been conditioned to seek human approval. They're basically shitty shoggoths. Those poor things have my sympathy.
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>>5025055
>Anon, dogs are literally mentally retarded and physically deformed slaves who have been conditioned to seek human approval. They're basically shitty shoggoths. Those poor things have my sympathy.
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>>5025055
Toxo propaganda
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>>5025055
>Anon, dogs are literally mentally retarded and physically deformed slaves who have been conditioned to seek human approval. They're basically shitty shoggoths. Those poor things have my sympathy
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>>5025055
>Anon, dogs are literally mentally retarded and physically deformed slaves who have been conditioned to seek human approval. They're basically shitty shoggoths. Those poor things have my sympathy.
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>>5025055
>Anon, dogs are literally mentally retarded and physically deformed slaves who have been conditioned to seek human approval. They're basically shitty shoggoths. Those poor things have my sympathy
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>>5025062
Is that a smashed and slammed hairless grumpy hecking shoggoth car? I desire to give the sweet lad many pats and remind him of how valid he is!
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>>5025040
>every animal that doesn't act like my heckin doggerino is dumb and autistic
i really hope you didn't actually buy a cat and if you did please return it
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cats are beautiful
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>>5025285
I am imagining this cat speaks with a heavy chinese accent
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>>5025285
>>5025292
>ur fader, is C H I N E S E
https://youtu.be/Ynr2_Wpvwd8?si=lORBLHNvfpbloz88
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>>5025040
The ancestors of dogs and cats evolved in the wild for different niches which is why they act differently. Wolves are pack-hunting pursuit predators and have greater stamina. Cats are solitary ambush predators and sacrificed stamina in favor of stealth and the ability to climb/skink their way into tight spaces. Wolves are more similar to humans in terms of ecological niche and dogs became more widespread as a result, including a wider variety of breeds since they could fit more purposes such as hunting and guarding, which is why they're easier for people to understand. Cats are less versatile in terms of function and display emotions in a more subtle way than dogs so people expecting them to act like dogs fail to understand them. Their biology is just different.
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>>5025040
Yes, cats are retarded, but they also try really hard not to be.

They have 1/2 as many neurons in their cerebral cortex as dogs and have odd behaviors to milk those for every last bit of intelligence they can offer, which can give them the appearance of being smarter than a dog in at least one moment sometimes.

Cats are the 85 IQ guy who practices math in his head, dogs are the 125 IQ guy who coasted through highschool and got a WFH tech support job so he could drink beer while googling for people.
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>>5025285
What is this thing called
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>>5025040
yes they are completely retarded but they don't need intelligence because their instincts are so powerful
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think of it in terms of financial stocks.
if the price is initially set too high, then there's not as much room to pump the stocks compared to a much lower starting floor point.
I think dogs are focused on the end game, trying to redefine what the peak 'ceiling is', because
>their specialty is "roofing"
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>>5025040
The more retarded an animal is the more genuine and trustworthy it is.
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>>5025044
I had a siamese, she was so awesome.
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>>5025040
Yes and that’s why we love them.
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>>5025044
>Siamese cats
they have the best voices
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>>5025439
She is a bit of a demon, but I do love her a lot. Very sassy and stands her ground well against 2 large dogs.
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>>5025541
They have the best personalities of all cats too for some reason.
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>>5025744
>most doglike cats have the best personalities
Hmmmm
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>>5025040
>you call them and they don't come
skill issue
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>>5025055
got the dogfuckers hootin and hollerin with this post
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>>5025055
>Mentally retarded
Smarter than an entire continent of "homo sapiens"
>Physically deformed
Less than most people
>conditioned to seek human approval
Wild ass wolves already do this. We didn't have to do shit except extend their socialization window so they wouldn't eat strangers.

>>5026194
>Catfag literally non-stop projecting his zoophilia
Many such cases. Everyone who actually fucks/molests dogs is a cat person. Often times, purveyors of purebreds are actually cat people as well!
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>>5025541
Cutie. White-tipped paws are SSS tier
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>>5026209
Her tail is even white tipped!
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>>5026207
>n-no ur the zoophile!
there's that rock-bottom dogfucker IQ on display again
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>>5026221
>toxotroon projects his obsession yet again
are you creatures even self aware? do you even have opinions of your own instead of reddit quotes?
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>cat acts different than a dog
>man wtf why does this animal act like an animal?
Golly I don't know, OP. Maybe because it's not a fucking person or an animal like a dog that has been honed by countless millennia to be a companion animal.
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>>5025040
I have a cat and have had several dogs and cats are dumb as fuck, but they're funny to watch and can be extremely affectionate. They just have a different mode of intelligence and interfacing with the world.
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>>5026222
>asking others if they're self-aware when they screech about toxo every single thread like an unthinking robot
lmao
also thanks for outing yourself as a turd worlder. toxo is not a problem in western countries. we don't think about it every single day like you do. how expensive was the jeetdroid you got? $50 or rupees or whatever you use over there?
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>>5026243
Sounds like you have toxo
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>>5026243
Toxo is mostly a problem in france, germany, and england because they foolishly think cats control rats (they don’t)

It’s not a problem in the US because we have based yotes
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>>5025040
Cats only play dumb. It requires a multi layered relational understanding of itself to its environment and fairly dark energy to mimic a retard to get away with spreading toxoplasmosis among the redditor population.
>Oh look mister whiskers just made doodoo in his litterbox and now taps on the kitchen counter
>Such silly cute kot
>I better quick suck on its paws and post it for cloud
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>>5025055
But enough about cats.
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>>5025044
I just got a Siamese Maine coon kitten, what should I expect
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>>5025040
>or keep looking the wall where nothing happen.
Incorrect. Only those with special powers can see the holy wall goblins.
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It's more like they manage to have decent intelligence and extreme retardness at the same time.
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I had the opposite experience. Cats are curious and expressive and like investigating and fucking with things so when we got a dog I was not prepared for it to have only 2 emotional states: staring blankly or yelling. Even when you pet them they just stare. If you wrestle with them they'll try to correct their stance and stare. Then they hear something outside, go into yelling mode, and you have to distract them to get them to stare again.
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>>5025058
>>5025062
>>5025285
SMASHED AND SLAMMED TO THE FUCKING GROUND CANT FUKKIN BREEF WITHOUT INVASIVE SURGERY
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>>5027364
>Siamese Maine coon kitten
Expect a mutt with no outstanding breed personality
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>>5025055
Truth
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yeah they are, actually. someone did a research study on cats to see if some show autistic traits like humans, and turns out all cats have autistic traits . little fluffy retards
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>>5025044
>Cats are solitary animals who literally view you as a surrogate parent.
Wrong on both accounts. Cats are semi-social, their behavior adapts to the number of cats on their territory, they can become incredibly social beings, but they aren't by default.
Cats also do not see you as a surrogate parent, but as a big alpha cat who does a lot of really weird shit they don't understand.
>>5028437
>and turns out all cats have autistic traits
All lower animals are autistic, anon. That's why they get autistic zoologists to help design killfloors so that they don't spook cows and pigs.
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>>5028437
>someone did a research study on cats to see if some show autistic traits
Retard.
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Dogs won

Dog website confirmed
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>>5032323
Cats are social animals

Maybe you got confused with them being called solitary hunters, which is in contrast to pack hunting like wolves, but cats spend plenty of time socialising with other cats.
In colonies, they share parental duties and excess kills.
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>>5032323
if you bring home two kittens at once they are extremely loving and social/bonded with each other + humans
a solo cat is sorta a shit pet
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>>5032323
There's multiple sense in which one can say an animal is "social", and in each case you are wrong.
'Social animals' is sometimes used to refer to pack/herd animals, those which tend to form a community. Cats do not, on average, exhibit a strong need to group up in colonies, but they adapt very quickly when one emerges, and are shown to be affecting behavior changes that seem to be aimed at keeping the colony functional (for one, females start whoring themselves out even outside of heat, believed to be in order to calm down males).
In another sense, one could use the term "social animal" to refer to any which has the capacity to be socialized, included in a group, regardless of its inclination to do so. A human hermit is still a social animal, even if his entire life is aimed at exiting society. In that sense, the simple fact that cats can be domesticated goes to show that they are indeed social.
Genuine question, maybe I'm just completely blanking out from the obvious examples, but are there any mammals abandoned at birth, and even more precisely, any mammals abandoned at birth that eventually reform a social group? I can't think of any. If there are none, I'd almost want to suggest that sociability is a natural mammalian trait developed from the necessary relationship with the parent, and that what we take as "asocial" animals are perhaps not devoid of the capacity, but have it overshadowed by a stronger drive.
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this stupid 18 year old lady only has a little time left, and for some reason, she's choosing to spend it sitting JUST a few inches too far away for me to pet her
if i pull the rug she's on closer to me, she gets up and moves just out of reach again
but she's constantly complaining that I need to be petting her. The only way I can do that is if I drop what I'm doing and lean over and reach further.
The much younger cat does the same thing, but in the bathroom. wants petting while I'm on the toilet, then flops onto the floor where I can't reach her. do they not understand space?
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>>5025040
Bought
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>>5025040
They're smarter than they look, it's just that their instincts are different and cause them to do things that seem really fucking dumb to us
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>>5025055
dogs also eat their own feces
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>>5025040
Yes, they are highly unintelligent compared to a westie or a pomeranian or something but it has its perks

Dumber animals come preprogrammed and don't require much mental stimulation. When was the last time someone said "my tegu needs daily walks" or "no way is my apartment big enough for an iguana"? Reptile ownership and cat ownership have more in common than you think. Smarter animals depend heavily on learning and need regular entertainment or they go insane, and develop disordered behavior if they miss some crucial learning experience.

Just try not to be a typical owner of a retarded pet, and assume it owns you because you don't understand enough animal behavior to program it
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>>5025055
"Shitty shoggoths" is so fucking high-yield.
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>>5038134
>Yes, they are highly unintelligent compared to a westie or a pomeranian
"They are dumb relatively to the one animal we've bred for thousands of years to max its compatibility to ours".
Not that great of a gauge, really. Cats have pretty much exactly how much brain matter you would expect them to have based on the EQ curve of mammals. Dogs are only .2 higher.
Every animal is a retard if you compare them to the top ~10 smartest animals out there.
Not even sure if reptiles as a whole are really that dumb.
Also, the whole "see, those animals MUST be smarter, because if we don't stimulate their intellect they go depressive"... lol. Way to project your modern malaise unto others.
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>>5039525
Stop coping. Cats are just retarded. If they weren’t they’s be high maintenance pets.
> see, those animals MUST be smarter, because if we don't stimulate their intellect they go depressive"... lol
yes all smart animals are like that.
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>>5039528
>yes all smart animals are like that.
So, you are saying being smart is a weakness?
>>5039528
>Stop coping. Cats are just retarded. If they weren’t they’s be high maintenance pets.
One doesn't follow from the other. Women are high maintenance pet. Are you saying women aren't retarded?
You have to think about the implications of what you claim before you do so, anon.
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>>5039693
allhamdulilah allahu snackbar my brother in islam. wahagiadmaulachelah. death to dogs. death to america.
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>>5025040
They live in a world you may not understand
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They're definitely autistic. Mine is like "oh fuck it's play time? Let me run to one of 4 places before we start"
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>>5025040
Yes

>>5025055
That's a weird thing to say when even the dumbest dogs are smarter than cats
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>>5025069
>>5025040
OP he's right. There is no need ever to pay money (or pancakes or even a hug) to get a cat. If you absolutely must clean a pissy kittylitter potty then get a cat for free -they are everywhere. Föor some reason even people who say they love cats give them away all the time.
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>>5038109
kek what? mine is 5 and has never ever done that. (and no, not any other animal fences neither.)

Cats litterally smell fainty of litterbox all the time. so does every cat owners home. I have visited at least 100 of them in my line of work and they all smell,more or less
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>>5038109
Skill issue.
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Yes, they're the dumbest animals you can keep. My two cats suddenly hate each other to the point of violence.
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>>5025040
>Wtf I bought an animal my dogs consider food why is it acting funny
All that aside, cats are pretty "stupid" and almost all their brainpower is dedicated to visual acuity and mechanical "finesse". They're probably on the borderline of too dumb to operantly condition but that aside they're still a semi-wild animal that's just worse at being wild that happens to view you as cute/mom/food/affection.
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>>5026194
Settle down, Chaim
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>>5025040
I had cats all my life growing up, five different ones, and all of them would come when you called and responded to their names.
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>>5025055
Cats literally only have the mental capacity to learn 3 words
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My brother has a pack of cats and after one spent 3 days at the vet the rest forgot they knew him and attacked him relentlessly. Bro considered rehoming but eventually with enough catnip and strategic separation he mkultra’d them into playing nice (it took a month)
He was raised by 2 of the cats as a kitten

My dog met my parents dog for the first time in 2 years and they acted like they had always known eachother (and both are aloof with new dogs)
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>>5025040
>don't let him kill me
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>>5045578
Don't reply to him in earnest anon this is just an anti-cat schizo thread
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Yes. 1/2 as many neurons in a thinner, less dense cerebral cortex with smaller frontal lobes... compared to a chihuahua.

You got to give it to cats for having reflexes and instincts tho. Dogs are like us. They mostly do what they learn. Their automatic behavior is severely lacking and they become very disordered without a good education so it's easy to fuck up a dog.

Cats have no brain to mis-configure so it's almost impossible to fuck up a cat. The downside is training a cat is more like programming a computer. The cat's simpler mind won't fill in the gaps if your conditioning protocols are imperfect and don't directly create new pathways. But cats also won't resist proper conditioning. Dogs are reasoning and bargaining animals who can work with improper conditioning if they want to, and refuse to cooperate with proper conditioning (even refusing food or taking it and spitting it out) if they don't.

Competently human-raised dogs > dogs raised by their mother and father> human-neglected and abused dogs



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