Animal welfare is good, but "animal rights" is retarded in both theory and practice.
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>Invasive species that spreads a disease responsible for 750 human deaths in the US per year and god know how many dead unborn children, but cute: SAVE THEM!If the exact same public health and ecological issues that feral cats cause were caused by a lizard or a pig, everyone would want them dead. Open season would be declared. Hunting would be totally unregulated. Everyone would become a psychopath and start torturing them for sport.This is what happened to everglades pythons and they aren't even a big deal.The more catfags are retarded, and the more birds I see maimed and killed in my yard (despite me not owning a cat, and not wanting the birds near me to die), the more I start thinking the huskychads who adopted cat eating dogs on purpose are in the right.
>>5037872im glad my region hasnt extirpated coyotes and foxes.
Where can I donate to the defence?
>>5037890No species is "invasive". That's just nativist propaganda.
>>5037929>t.Ewes
>>5037929Nativism is correct.
>>5037890Gazehounds have a high predatory drive but aren't such shits to live just dumb and lazy dogs for the most part until they're outside.
>>5037929Faggot
>>5037890I prefer the snakes to the cats myself>ancient chinese good luck serpent>middle eastern poop machine
Just donated $50 to alley cat allies. Anyone know any other good cat charities I can donate to as well? I often give to rescues in China since their laws are so horrible and animal abuse is normalized therehttps://www.felineguardians.org/charity
>>5038053Why would you donate to people who support making cats live as pest animals? Indoor cats live up to 5x longer than outdoor cats.
>>5037890>Invasive species that spreads a disease responsible for 750 human deaths in the US per year and god know how many dead unborn children>If the exact same public health and ecological issues that feral cats cause were caused by a lizard or a pig, everyone would want them dead.It's just nature. Cuteness is a legitimate survival strategy in a world dominated by humans. Don't get so overworked about a bunch of dead peasants.I do support removing invasive species, but not by killing them. That's just tragedy caused by laziness. Catch and castrate. Heavily, heavily fine people who don't castrate their cats or abandon them on the street too. When thinking about animal walfare you've gotta realize that NPCs do not matter. Statistics like the one you quoted only serve as means to push for implementation of laws to reduce animal suffering.
>>5038081Nah fuck off. Outdoor cats need to be culled.
>>5038053>rescues in ChinaScams
>>5038083By forced castration and penalising letting your cat out with fines. Animal chips are going to be mandatory in the EU, which makes it possible.
>>5038081Ovaries, not testes, are a species reproductive capacity. TNR does nothing for this reason. It is purposefully ineffective.
>>5038099the posts about outdoors cats are getting to be spam tier. they only bring up muh wildlife because they hate cats
>>5038108Anyone who likes wildlife hates cats by now. Catfags simply refuse to accept that the creatures belong indoors.Cats could be fine, but catfags are forcing people to hate them by doing shit like this>save le community cat colony!>stench of piss and shit intensifies>mouse population continues growing>birds all but vanish>toxo infection skyrockets
>>5038121that's crazy because I see birds everywhere. but go ahead, keep making the same spam posts about outdoor cats
>>5038102Anon, neuter is a catchall term that simply means to desex. It is not male or female specificTNR is wasteful and ineffectiveBut not for this retarded reason you keep parroting
>>5038126>i see sparrows everywhere so birds never dieRIP avian biodiversitycause of death: retarded humans making bad decisionshttps://www.frontiersin.org/research-topics/13029/avian-biodiversity-collapse-in-the-anthropocene-drivers-and-consequences/magazinehttps://www.aphis.usda.gov/sites/default/files/pr-2003-cat-ea.pdf
>>5038137I see so many crusty old men online talk about killing cats because muh wild birdsThey all drive large trucks. live in trashy mcmansions that are 90% empty space and covered in grey laminate from china. They don't compost and mow their lawns with riding mowers(god forbid they get exercise) every dayHabitat loss is the biggest risk to endangered species. but nobody wants to talk about that. just keep tearing down forests to build housing developments
>>5037929Says the invasive species, peculiar..
>>5038141>>5038167Whataboutism: 2 problems does not magically become one. But saying they do is a great way to solve nothing and maie everything worse. >we should help the environm->ALL HUMANS HAVE TO DIE RETURN TO THE STONE AGE YOU HAVE NO OPTION>well then, i guess we are fucking bulldozing it. hey joe, you working on factory farming honeybees? we’re gonna need more pollinators for the farm im puttin where this forest was>sure am billy!
>>5038197The cats killing 6 gorillion birds study has issues and one of the people who worked on it was a psycho that tried killing cats
>>5038241and yet feral cats do still cause extinctions so please stop cruelly neglecting your pet
>>5038197Humans are the cause almost all mother earths problems, would you start having a melty if someone were to suggest picking an invasive weed that had suffocated the entire garden bed when all you do is complain about it? There's nothing we can do but advocate antihumanism and try lessen our impact while we're still here but that time I fear is running out quickly. The greed and senseless mass killing performed by mankind is purely because of our intelligence, which ironically will be the death of us. We will never decide to just stop reproducing, we're going to destroy both ourselves and the earth on our way out.TLDR: it was a joke, learn the definition of whataboutism
>discussion turns to controlling invasive cats>like clockwork, catfags always divert it to talking about humans
>>5038276>catfags, pluralplease its just one guy. he’s a local schizo and all over the place. i can prove it. wolves are necessary to stop herbivores from overpopulating.
>>5038053Thanks Anon I'll save this and throw them a few bucks when I get paid later this week
>>5038269>The greed and senseless mass killing performed by mankind is purely because of our intelligenceOn the contrary if mankind was truly intelligent we would not use unsustainable practices. But alas the collective intellect of the human race goes down the more of them there are. There are human's in the developed world that still kill over stupid things like road rage. Mankind is propped up by a few intellectuals doing all the heavy lifting while the rest are utter ape like retards responding instinctually to external stimulus without a thought
>>5038288And yes even the manipulative and sociopathic "elites" and "ceo's" of the world are nothing but retards themselves manipulating other retards. There is nothing cunning about fooling another retarded ape like themselves
>>5037890Kill yourself anti cat schizo
>>5038288>Mankind is propped up by a few intellectualsMost of whom do not reproduce and even talk other intellectuals out of it. Reducing the tiniest population to nothing, its suicide.
Come on weird wannabe philosopher schizo take the baitWolvesNo way are two people this dumb
>>5037872OP is a faggot AND an animal, yet he has rights....Why can't other animals have rights as well.F you OP
>>5038302>weird wannabe philosopher schizoJust in, basic logic now makes you a schizo, more at six. The only argument pronatalists have is calling you a sad emo loser, projection at it's finest from the breeders yet again.
>>5038197Humans being an unnatural force is the entire issue. If you don't solve that issue, then nothing else matters.
>>5038339>i cant protect endangered birds somewhat unless we ban civilizationirrational extremist. no wonder the world turned on environmentalism.
most of the "endangered birds" cats are killing are invasive actually. European Starling (Sturnus vulgaris): Introduced to Central Park in the 1890s, starlings now number in the millions and compete with native cavity-nesting birds like the Red-headed Woodpecker for nesting sites.House Sparrow (Passer domesticus):Introduced from Europe in the mid-19th century, house sparrows aggressively compete for and occupy nests, sometimes injuring or killing other birds.Rock Pigeon (Columba livia):These "feral pigeons" arrived with early colonists and now populate much of the U.S., though their populations have declined in recent years.Eurasian Collared Dove (Streptopelia decaocto):Introduced to the U.S. through a crime in the 1970s, these doves also compete for resources with native birds.Monk Parakeet (Myiopsitta monachus):Also known as the Quaker Parrot, this parakeet was introduced via the pet trade and establishes populations in several U.S. states.Common Myna (Acridotheres tristis):Native to Asia, the common myna is highly adaptable to urban environments and can displace native species, sometimes feeding on their eggs and chicks.https://abcbirds.org/blog20/invasive-birds
>>5038437>low iq doesnt get itThere is a difference between a threatened and a non-threatened population>BUT IF HUMANS DIDNT EXIST!!!And if you would stop neglecting your pet the situation would be better. >BUT DOGS!Dogs can cause extinctions too. That’s why only thirdies let them roam. Why are you a catthirdie?
>>5038441seethe
>>5037872>community catsthose cats are sterilized
>>5038276Who do you think made cats
>>5038437Bullshit
