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do birdwatchers really?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl-wAqplQAo
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those are "twitchers" not birdwatchers. twitching is basically animal abuse.
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>>5039316
Shitting on one of the last remaining untainted white men's hobbies I see.
I wonder if these dudes are circumcised.
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>>5039444
>reiser
yup, ive done my service for today, say "thank you noticer"
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Why are (((they))) so determined to destroy anything good and pure
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>>5039475
something like this
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>>5039475
Sounds about right but I think it is just part of their nature as they have been like this since before jesus was even born
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>>5039475
>They rejected the messiah their God gave them

Jesus and the 12 apostles were all Jews...
Dogs are mentioned in the NT nine times. Every single mention paints dogs in a deeply negative light.

Matthew 7:6 - "Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

Matthew 15:26 - He replied, "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to the dogs."

Matthew 15:27 - "Yes it is, Lord," she said. "Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master's table."

Mark 7:27 - "First let the children eat all they want," he told her, "for it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to the dogs."

Mark 7:28 - "Lord," she replied, "even the dogs under the table eat the children's crumbs."

Luke 16:21 - and longing to eat what fell from the rich man's table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.

Philippians 3:2 - Watch out for those dogs, those evildoers, those mutilators of the flesh.

2 Peter 2:22 - Of them the proverbs are true: "A dog returns to its vomit," and, "A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud."

Revelation 22:15 - Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
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>>5039316
I accidentally recorded bird porn.
>>5039475
Based
>>5039706
>Judah was all 12 tribes of Israel
Lol
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>>5039749
>>Judah was all 12 tribes of Israel
>Lol

Like most Christians. You haven't read your own bible.

1) Judah, Benjamin and the Levites are what Became modern Jews...
Not Just Judah. Nehemiah 11:36 for example.

2) Jesus is clearly stated multiple times to be specifically descending from the tribe of Judah.
Hebrews 7:14 , Matthew 1:1-17, Luke 3:23-38, Revelation 5:5 etc

3) Christianity was an all-Jewish institution originally until Gentiles were accepted without the need for circumcision in Acts 15 AFTER the death of Jesus.

4) The hatred for dogs and wolves coupled with a love and respect for cats (lion of Judah), Started in Judaism and was copied by Christianity and Islam.

5) Birdwatching or divination involving observation of birds is prohibited in the bible (Deuteronomy 18:10-11).
But does feature heavily in Ancient Greek/Roman religion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augury
And the gauls too -
https://www.attalus.org/translate/justin3.html
" The Gauls, when the land that had produced them was unable, from their excessive increase of population, to contain them, sent out three hundred thousand men, as a sacred spring, to seek new settlements. 2 Of these adventurers part settled in Italy, and took and burnt the city of Rome; 3 and part penetrated into the remotest parts of Illyricum under the direction of a flight of birds (for the Gauls are skilled in augury beyond other nations)"

6) Read your bible please!
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>>5039768
Why are you spamming bullshit? Jews are only 1 of the 12 tribes of Israel. Modern Jews are not Judeans anyways, they are caananites. Judaism was canonized 500 years after Jesus died.
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>>5039877
>jews wuz us
the bible is not historical at all. both of you are debating bullshit some romans made up as if the asspulled culture of bronze age savages is and should be relevant.

it is not. even the catholic church went back and said "take the bible with a grain of salt because free will extends to the writers *copecopecope*"... like, 1800 years ago.
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>>5039768
>divination involving observation of birds is prohibited in the bible (Deuteronomy 18:10-11).
Ok so because that existed years ago, we will make a wrong, right by... also committing animal abuse?
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>>5039880
We should also take the Talmud with a grain of salt because of free will extends to the writers
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>>5039883
Yes, and laugh at anyone who takes it seriously.
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>>5039884
Well, I've met demonic entities in the past, but I've never seen an angel (at least none that I am aware of).
I can confirm that they do have an aversion to the name of the messiah
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>>5039475
Christianity is a foreign Hebrew ideology and when Europeans started questioning it we started the Renaissance and Scientific Revolution. Hebraic religions stunt the mind and are anti-Nature (as all Abrahamic religions are), anti-Science (religious attachment to Genesis creation is more important than the actual origin of life on Earth), and most importantly we already had atavistic native religions, Christianity barely mentions Europe even in passing. Paganism, in its polytheism, idolatry, and elevation of nature above man, is clearly more opposed and more of a threat to Judaism than its Abrahamic cousin.
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>>5039885
>Blah blah blah demons
Schizo. Demons are not real.

>>5039889
Religion is irrelevant. People pick and choose what to follow from it all the time so no matter what it says, an adherent can say "i think they meant something else", twist words, and do something entirely different.
>but paganism elevated le nature
Pagans burned forests and chopped down all but the coolest tree because religion is irrelevant and people will do whatever the fuck they want to serve their needs.

Strict adherence to religion is for dumb and unimportant people. Everyone with even a smidgen of power only pays lip service.
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>>5039892
Plausible deniability
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>>5039889
>when Europeans started questioning it we started the Renaissance and Scientific Revolution.
Isaac Newton enters the fray
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>>5039894
The alchemist, unitarian, Isaac Newton? That heretic?
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>>5039877
Why are you making shit up without a single biblical or archeological source?
Oh right, because you're one of those low IQ Christians that thinks you're apposing Judaism by literally worshipping a religion created by and first practiced by Jews.
Pure insanity.
>>5039880
>both of you are debating bullshit some romans made up
The romans didn't create Judaism or Christianity you dunce. No source, biblical or non-biblical points to that.
>>5039880
>even the catholic church went back and said "take the bible with a grain of salt because free will extends to the writers
No, the Catholic church didn't want ordinary people to read the bible because certain teachings (like babies going to hell if they die before baptism), would drive people away from the faith. So they chose to lie to their followers and only reveal the actual contents of the bible to trusted church leaders.
>>5039881
>Ok so because that existed years ago, we will make a wrong, right by... also committing animal abuse?
No, I'm saying that it's hypocritical for Christians to complain about Jews mocking bird watchers because Christians literally believe the exact same rubbish.
>>5039885
Literal schizophrenia. Anon, please see a doctor if you're hallucinating demonic entities.
Seriously, get help before you hurt someone.
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>>5039898
>So they chose to lie to their followers and only reveal the actual contents of the bible to trusted church leaders.
In other words, they didn't actually believe that shit and simply used religion as a tool.
>because Christians literally believe the exact same rubbish.
Some book says != people believe
>but they SHOULD!
It doesn't matter.
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>>5039898
>The romans didn't create Judaism or Christianity you dunce.
the entire thing was canonized in the roman empire, by citizens of the roman empire, and what is the bible and the real meaning of the bible is the sole domain of the roman catholic church. christianity as we know it is just an extension of the roman executive branch and legislature. the actual historicity of jesus himself amounts to a legal record of a sex offender being executed and many events surrounding him (like the massacre of the innocents) are plainly made up.

you are debating over literally nothing

religion is a tool for orgnaizing society. it's not real.
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>>5039898
>Seriously, get help before you hurt someone.
Oh, I've thought about hurting people, but not because of the visions.
It all started when I starting reading about the depravity of mankind.
How I wished and still do that I had the power to burn them all...
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>>5039903
It would be very painful...
For me and you
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>>5039901
>Oh, I've thought about hurting people, but not because of the visions.
>It all started when I starting reading about the depravity of mankind.
>How I wished and still do that I had the power to burn them all...
>t. tranny shooter 2, birdwatching boogaloo
can we get a red flag order on this dude?

4chan paging FBI party van, 4chan paging FBI party van, schizo located 39 -105 +/- 100sqkm. Triangulating...
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Testing, testing. Is this on? This is FBI party van paging 4chan. Triangulation complete. IP address backtraced. We have your schizo. Dispatching agents now.
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>>5039892
You're just making shit up without sourcing a single thing you way.
Stop talking already.
>>5039900
>the entire thing was canonized in the roman empire
Christianity wasn't Created by the Romans anon.
>>5039899
>In other words, they didn't actually believe that shit
Well no, In Christianity lying to people is believed to be justified if it gains more converts. This is based on the writings of Paul.
Islam has its own version of this with Taqiyya and Judaism "Hasbara".
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>>5039915
>Christianity wasn't Created by the Romans anon.
It was. Pre-roman christianity is an ancient rumor. Jesus likely was not even a real person, and if he was, no one will ever know what he actually said because there is no actual first hound account of his existence, except for a receipt for the execution of some sex offenders.

>They are lying to gain converts!
They, and the converts, do not actually believe half the shit in that book. No one ever has. Religion has never mattered. It has always bent to fit the will of man. The power of purposeful mistranslation and clever reinterpretation is infinite.

Christianity could legalize homosex with a silly claim authored by someone with enough clout
>it says here that "lie with men as if with a woman" so actually, if we say YES homo, and never utter the word ass pussy, we're in the clear
It is that pointless to care about what religion says.
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>>5039905
>>t. tranny shooter 2, birdwatching boogaloo
You stupid philistine insect. You really think I would throw my life away for an inconsequential school shooter plot?
No, the power I seek is much greater than that of sticks and stones.
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>>5039768
imagine being antisemitic and also being this deep into semitic mythology and believing it all to be true
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>>5039920
As seen here, officer, he's probably building a bomb
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>>5039922
Bombs are still sticks and stones, a primitive tool of the rotting mind of man kind
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>>5039923
You can schizz out all you want but I still tipped off the FBI
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>>5039924
Perhaps.
But you are still a redditor
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>>5039919
>It was. Pre-roman christianity is an ancient rumor.

"What are the dead sea scrolls"
"What are the multiple Roman records of Christians being a new Jewish sect long before its adoption as the official religion of Rome"
"What are the Pauline epistles and Acts of the Apostles".
"What is basic historical literacy"
>>5039919
>Christianity could legalize homosex with a silly claim authored by someone with enough clout
Well that didn't happen because 90% of what Christianity teaches was just copied from Judaism. Christianity got the anti-homosexual rhetoric from Sodom and Gomorrah in the old testament that is mentioned in the dead sea scrolls which was written before Christianity even existed.

>>5039921
>imagine being antisemitic and also being this deep into semitic mythology and believing it all to be true
Imagine accusing somebody of antisemitism and simultaneously telling them they are stupid for believing in Semitic mythology.
Even though they clearly don't...
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>>5039930
>Christianity got the anti-homosexual rhetoric from Sodom and Gomorrah in the old testament that is mentioned in the dead sea scrolls which was written before Christianity even existed.
Wrong again. It's because there is no basis for homosexuality from the start of genesis
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>>5039930
>"What are the dead sea scrolls"
The torah
>"What are the multiple Roman records of Christians being a new Jewish sect long before its adoption as the official religion of Rome"
Pre-canonization christianity, a religion that would have been unrecognizable and fragmented
>"What are the Pauline epistles and Acts of the Apostles".
Ahistorical 2nd century BS with no real author. A lot of aniquity is fake. Huge swaths of history have been "discovered" all in a few nights so someone could get the clout they desired. Some things never change.
>Well that didn't happen
There are actually christian churches that accept homosexuality.

You sperg out over religion as if it is real. As if anyone actually believes these mythology books.

All of it is made up. Religion is an exercise in confirmation bias.
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>>5039931
This post is exemplary of how much room for bullshitting there is in religion.

Anything can be justified anyhow. And what of the other things that did not exist in genesis? Now we're getting REALLY jewish and can see clearly why most jews don't adhere to their religion at all, and why most other religions are dead or a glorified set of holidays (lmao @ shinto)
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>>5039934
>They shall be male and female and they shall multiply
It's very simple, there is not for homosexuality there.
Genesis 1:27-28
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
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>>5039935
So we can't do anything that isn't explicitly instructed in the book of bereshit, 1st of the torah? There is no instruction to cook food in there either. Ohhhhhh shit! Billions are sinners, roasting god's gifts in satan's fire! STOP COOKING!
How about sports? Did adam kicketh or throweth the rounded object? Did the lord instructeth us to doeth surely? No! He who balls sins. Lead out the ballers by their shackles, put them to the flame! All those who defyeth the lord and send round objects through hoops, though adam never did, shall knoweth eternal torment. For I am the prophet, and my word is as the Lord's!

Religion is an exercise in confirmation bias.

What you just did was confirmation bias.
>I want homosexuality to be wrong (a common belief, also shared by germanic pagans believe it or not)
>So I will find a reason in this bronze age book of questionable integrity that postulates an inescapable cosmic police state exists
That's it.
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>>5039931
Wrong again. Genesis doesn't explicitly say or punish anyone for having homosexual sex.

Yet in Genesis 19, Two angels disguised as men are almost raped by men from Sodom and consequently Sodom is destroyed by god.

>>5039933
>The torah
Which is the Old Testament...
Which is what Jesus directly quotes in the New testament.
Which is what most teachings in the New testament come from.
Because Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism created by Jews.
>>5039933
>Pre-canonization christianity, a religion that would have been unrecognizable and fragmented
Your just making shit up again.
The romans recorded their baptism practices, worship of a crucified Jesus etc.
>>5039933
>Ahistorical 2nd century BS with no real author. A lot of aniquity is fake
Reality hurts your feelings again.
Sorry mate.
Christianity existed before it was adopted by the romans.
It's a valid document.
>>5039933
>There are actually christian churches that accept homosexuality.
Name a single one that did prior to the 1800's...
Oh, you're making shit up again.
>>5039933
>All of it is made up. Religion is an exercise in confirmation bias.
But you aren't saying that.
All you're doing is claiming everything you personally like is true and everything you don't like was make up.
That's it.
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>>5039940
>Yet in Genesis 19, Two angels disguised as men are almost raped by men from Sodom and consequently Sodom is destroyed by god.
So it is settled, let us put penis in asshole, as long as the people are not angels, or the angels at least consent.

>Which is the old testament
Retroactively
>You're making shit up
All of religion is made up. Entire books were fabricated and altered at will.
>It's a valid document
200 years later, with no confirmed author?
>Name a single one that did prior to the 1800's...
And who says god didn't change his mind after the 1800s?
>All you're doing is claiming everything you personally like is true and everything you don't like was make up.
I'm saying that is the standard practice of the religious.

Sometimes they even make shit up to canonize their opinions, like when they got sick of smelling bacon and not being allowed to eat it, and made up a literal "it came to me in a dream" passage to put bacon back on the table.
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>>5039943
no, christianity has to be a literally interpreted bunch of facts so he can blame it for all his problems
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>>5039938
>>I want homosexuality to be wrong (a common belief, also shared by germanic pagans believe it or not)
>>So I will find a reason in this bronze age book of questionable integrity that postulates an inescapable cosmic police state exists
>That's it.
You seem to be strongly adamant about supporting faggotry, I'd be surprised if you weren't also defending bestiality considering the nature of the board.
It's simple sexual degeneracy is naturally disgusting to people who haven't been tainted by lust. It's a natural thing all of us have embedded in us.
>So we can't do anything that isn't explicitly instructed in the book of bereshit, 1st of the torah? There is no instruction to cook food in there either. Ohhhhhh shit! Billions are sinners, roasting god's gifts in satan's fire! STOP COOKING!
Very funny, but it's on what is explicitly stated on the books. Also exodus does provide cooking instructions but specifically for passover.
>>5039943
Those two angels were sent there, because God was going to destroy the city but the dude living there wasn't an absolute degenerate like the rest, and was a relative of abraham who plead for the life of the non-degens living in the city at that time.
Also God literally states this
Genesis 18:20
> And the Lord said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;
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>>5039945
>You seem to be strongly adamant about supporting faggotry, I'd be surprised if you weren't also defending bestiality considering the nature of the board.
I'm adamant about pointing out how stupid you are to act as if these religions are important when they can simultaneously refute and support their own core values with no more bullshit than is standard.

Any amount of nonsense can twist a religion to man's will. You're going on about how the west has fallen because muh paganism was environment but pagans were as glad to raze the land and spare the magic tree as christians were to find some passage they could selectively interpret as saying to conserve some of it.

And still, there are churches that found a way to dodge old semitic lawbooks and find loopholes sufficient to approve of homosexuality. It is ALL made up, from start to finish.

my original point:
religion is made up
no one actually follows it strictly except for some irrelevant retards

Do you really believe the creator of the universe A-OK'd something as blatantly ahistorical as the book of exodus? No they just made it up, even the church is aware it's made up
>uhhh, poetry
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>>5039945
>It's simple sexual degeneracy is naturally disgusting to people who haven't been tainted by lust. It's a natural thing all of us have embedded in us.
this statement has no logical content at all

saying the opposite would actually be more accurate because as an objective fact, the majority of people are at least slightly bisexual, and most civilizations are ambivalent towards homosexuals. and in medieval christian europe, homosexuals often went unpunished. hmm.

so perhaps god was mad about something else, and those civilizations did not get turned to salt or whatever, so maybe, figures the observant christian, it was something else, and cue the mere poetry cope.
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>>5039947
Also the funniest part going back to confirmation bias

The bible never said sodom's sin was homosexuality, and the act upon the angels was non-consensual, so it was not necessarily the homosexual nature.

It's also something that never happened made up of fragments of various different things that did like flood myths - a mishmash of every city to ever experience seismological or volcanic distress.
The only literally stated content is
>They were assholes who raped and treated foreign guests poorly so they deserved it
Which could refer to any semitic settlement in history, really. Even today.
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>>5039947
>this statement has no logical content at all
Of course not because it's natural law, you can't reason it using atheist redditor world views
>the majority of people are at least slightly bisexual,
Maybe for those who are already not virgins of both mind and body.
And yes lust is another bug/enemy to be fought against
>>5039946
>You're going on about how the west has fallen because muh paganism was environment but pagans were as glad to raze the land and spare the magic tree as christians were to find some passage they could selectively interpret as saying to conserve some of it.
Not me, but yes your point about true followers being outcasts unwelcome by the general public is true. It always has been.
> No they just made it up
How do you know you aren't making up those claims. How can you truly know what happened centuries ago when at the earliest you were probably born in the late 1890's
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>>5039951
>It's natural law
"I have this opinion and am really attached to it, and can find like minded individuals, so it is fact"
You made it up, mate.
Sodom and gomorrah were not even singled out for homosexuality, but for rape and maltreatment of foreigners. The fag shit was - confirmation bias. This is well known.

>How do you know you aren't making up those claims.
There is no historical evidence for basically every claim made in exodus and genesis. Genesis in particular is one of the most refuted known books. Exodus is nation of islam tier alt history.
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>>5039943
>So it is settled, let us put penis in asshole, as long as the people are not angels, or the angels at least consent.
The angels WERE human men when they were almost raped anon...
No Jewish or Christian group supported homosexuality in that era or in any time up to the late 19th century.

>>5039943
>Retroactively
Nope The old testament directly quotes the tanakh which directly quotes the dead sea scrolls.
>All of religion is made up. Entire books were fabricated and altered at will.
You're confusing the history of religion with whether or not religious beliefs are true or not. Those are two completely different topics.
For example, The dead sea scrolls have been radiocarbon dated...
We know they were written before Christ was born.
>200 years later, with no confirmed author?
Wow are you stupid. That's the whole point. 200AD predates the widespread adoption of Christianity by the Roman emperor Constantine the great in the 300's AD.
>And who says god didn't change his mind after the 1800s?
Umm.
The bible was never rewritten to promote anal sex anon.
>>5039943
>I'm saying that is the standard practice of the religious.
No, you're an idiot that's confusing the history of religion with whether or not religious claims are true or not.
I've never claimed that Jesus DID actually walk on water. That's a faith claim.
But Christians did believe that Jesus walked on water by the 200's AD based on surviving manuscripts.
You seem mentally incapable of separating the two because you're extremely stupid.
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>>5039951
>it's natural law that the human female contains an evolved endocrine disrupting response if she has a multitude of sons
>homosexuality prevents excess males from competing for female attention
>god loves fags
>but they must not lay with each other as straight men lay with women
>blowies and handies only
>the anti-AIDS clause
wala the bible now lets you be gay

and good thing too because you are gay
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>>5039952
Plenty of archaeologists in the near east
You just have to look for it harder
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>>5039954
>and good thing too because you are gay
What is it with fags wanting everyone to be gay?
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>>5039953
>The angels WERE human men when they were almost raped anon...
But they were almost raped, that it was gay rape was never singled out, and nothing was ever said about the consensually gay except with vaguer language, so.
>but these people thought-
They have free will and were not destroyed by god. Well, actually, they might have suffered repeated punishments from god. You can blame anything on god. People elsewhere did not hate fags and did pretty well themselves. God either loves fags or doesn't really care. Who knows?

I postulate that Christianity is
1: fake
2: gay

>You're confusing the history of religion with whether or not religious beliefs are true or not. Those are two completely different topics.
They are not, actually. If the religion states its own history with divine authority, and is incorrect, its actual history proves it is invalid. If I say I am the prophet of god because I received immortality granting golden tablets inscribed with god's wisdom, and then I die naturally, and no one finds any tablets, the history of my religion is its undoing.
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>>5039954
>evolved
Already off on the wrong page
>homosexuality prevents excess males from competing for female attention
So does chastity but you wouldn't even dare think about it.
>The rest
Babbling
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>>5039956
It's not wanting, it's observing. You're the one posting muscular goat dudes with snake boners not me.

So you're not just gay, but you're also a gay furry.
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>>5039959
Projection, you know what that is
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>>5039958
Evolution is a proven fact.
>well I can conceive of an unnatural mechanism that might accomplish the same thing with some effort
We can also conceive of ways to do away with feet and are objectively better at moving us from place to place than feet, with some effort and good execution.
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>>5039961
Macro-evolution is pseudo science
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>>5039960
Please refrain from posting any more of your muscular goat men outside of /trash/
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>>5039963
They aren't mine, they are theirs's
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>>5039963
Why did it make you pop a boner? Lmao
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>>5039962
Macro-evolution is cumulative micro-evolution and the only people who doubt it have zero understanding of the history of life.

Their is a fine gradient between species, with the changes in shades sometimes being quite abrupt with the duplication or genes and even whole genomes, or deletions of genes and large parts of the genome, and severe genetic instability caused by unfortunate introns, hybridization between partially divergent populations, trait fixing from inbreeding, and so on.

Your jawbone, your inner ear, your shoulders, all trace their development back to a gill arch, a reinforced hole in an ascended worm.
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>>5039952
>Sodom and gomorrah were not even singled out for homosexuality, but for rape and maltreatment of foreigners

"Literally the only place in the bible male on male rape is mentioned is also the only place where cities (five in fact) admah, zeboiim, zoar, sodom and gomorrah are destroyed by god in a fit of anger"

"women are raped in many different parts of the bible but that never pisses god off so much that he even destroys one city with fire and brimstone."

>>5039954
No anon. Homosexuality is nothing more than a mental defect that's more common with older parents and inbreeding.
Literally every time you open your mouth shit comes out.

>>5039957
You're too stupid to literally understand how anything works anon.
Carbon dating isn't a religion.
You can take your crazy pills now.

>>5039961
>Evolution is a proven fact.
Down syndrome and homosexuality are uncommon because they are selected against anon...
But still pop up from time to time due to random mutations.
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>>5039966
My dick's limp, mate. It only gets hard for your mother.
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>>5039970
>"women are raped in many different parts of the bible but that never pisses god off so much that he even destroys one city with fire and brimstone."
Men are also the only ones in the bible given sexual agency and consensual acts are not mentioned, and god has consistently failed to destroy every civilization that doesn't hate fags, so maybe god just doesn't care (or it's all made up)

>BUT THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS WERE CARBON DATED
That doesn't have anything to do with the modern bible being heavily altered and selected by romans tho

>Down syndrome and homosexuality are uncommon because they are selected against anon...
Homosexuality actually seems to be selected for. Specifically, women who pop out fags after the second son have an advantage. You're a benefit to your mother, sisters, and brothers.
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>>5039971
Anon, here I meant to say it only gets hard for your daddy
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>>5039973
That's a pretty weak comeback for someone who is easily described by the an insulting homophone related to the aforementioned word

heh, homo-phone
lmao
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>>5039972
>Men are also the only ones in the bible given sexual agency
Nope. You simply don't know about about the bible or the history of Abrahamic religion. Not even the basics. You're a moron.
>>5039972
>That doesn't have anything to do with the modern bible being heavily altered and selected by romans tho
Once again you moron. The bible directly quotes to dead sea scrolls that predate the birth of Christ.
You're a moron.
>>5039972
>Homosexuality actually seems to be selected for.
Which is why only 1.5% of American households belong to homosexual couples.
The incidence of schizophrenia is around 1%
It's in the same incidence range as severe neurological disorders.
Once again.
You're a moron.
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>>5039976
>Nope
Women have no sexual agency in the bible and in early christian society raped women could be purchased, and their rape considered their fault. Some agency. And still homosexuality was never named as sodom's sin, that was an instance of confirmation bias, as supported by the supposed almighty not wiping out all the other faggy civilizations. Equal to "the murderer was gay, so he actually must have went to jail for homosexuality".
>Once again you moron. The bible directly quotes to dead sea scrolls that predate the birth of Christ.
So if I quote the torah, I can not make up anything else? And the torah is surely not made up as well? Newsflash: It is all made up, and the religion as you know it is rather new despite it including something old.
>If something is rare, it's wrong!
What a stupid thing to believe
Homosexuals increase the overall fitness of their family group, especially under natural conditions, before a poorly bred polio vaccine, I mean, chimp soup, created AIDS.
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>>5039979
>Homosexuals increase the overall fitness of their family group
It's simple, it's the works of demons. Heterosexual's wouldn't have to worry about AIDs if they weren't sticking their dicks in assholes and shooting up syringes
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>>5039979
>Women have no sexual agency in the bible
What's Genesis 39...
You haven't read the bible you moron.
Wow are you dumb. You're so dumb.
>So if I quote the torah, I can not make up anything else?
you are once again confusing the history of religion with whether or not religious claims are true. You're a moron.
>>If something is rare, it's wrong!
>What a stupid thing to believe
>Homosexuals increase the overall fitness
By not reproducing and not caring about anyone else but themselves. The end. Amazing.
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>>5039982
Simply do not lay with men as you would women and the STD problem is solved. Say "yes homo" and he who dicks must not bust a nut, only he who is dicked may, for that is nothing like what happens with women. Biblically appropriate homosexuality.

It is thus proven that religion is
1: Fake
2: Gay
3: Doesn't actually matter because any motivated invidual can reinterpret it or even amend and revise it at will

I win you can go make out with your boyfriend now and leave me and your mother be
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>>5039984
>you are once again confusing the history of religion with whether or not religious claims are true. You're a moron.
We already went over this. A religion that claims it is correct because of historical events that never occurred has its claims invalidated.
>By not reproducing
Not a problem if they have a straight sibling.
>not caring about anyone else but themselves. The end. Amazing.
Homosexuals tend to contribute more material resources to family members.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/gay-guys-make-generous-uncles-study-shows-flna1c9442494
And god has failed to wipe out other civilizations that accepted homosexuality...
Would not refusing the gays hospitality be a sodom-like attitude? Hmmm

Well, seeing as you are gay, this must be wonderful news for you and I'm taking your disagreement as a manifestation of shock
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>>5039982
>It's simple, it's the works of demons
You're just as stupid as the homo nutjob with the two digit IQ.
>>5039985
>Simply do not lay with men as you would women and the STD problem is solved.
The anus wasn't made for sex you idiot.
The anus didn't evolve for sex.
Anal sex has a higher HIV transmission rate than vaginal sex and even needle use.
>>5039985
>Doesn't actually matter because any motivated invidual can reinterpret it or even amend and revise it at will
You mean you haven't read the bible and have no idea what the fuck you're talking about?
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>>5039989
>The anus wasn't made
correct
>The anus didn't evolve for sex
Evolution doesn't have a conscious will and does not grant purpose
>Anal sex has a higher HIV transmission rate than vaginal sex and even needle use.
That's the semen, and a relatively recent disease. Regardless it seems early civilized man was aware that goo doesn't go down the hole for men. Greeks, for example, notoriously preferred non-penetrative homosex.
>You mean you haven't read the bible and have no idea what the fuck you're talking about?
The bible that says it's real because of a fairy tale set in egypt that provably never happened and many other made up claims like floods and magic gardens? And then gets amended with a bunch of "i heard that happened" and "it came to me in a dream"? That one? I've flipped through it more than most christians. If there is a god he has clearly let free will run wild and doesn't care if anyone worships him properly or not. There's a conspicuous lack of hellfire, and if anything, the most devout areas of the world are the most severely punished.
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Mods are gay
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>>5039987
>We already went over this. A religion that claims it is correct because of historical events
Once again.
You're confusing the History of religion with religious claims.
Carbon dating isn't a religion.
You are a moron.
>Not a problem if they have a straight sibling.
They aren't helping their siblings.
>Homosexuals tend to contribute more material resources to family members.
No they don't...
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513824001259
"Based on an online collected sample of gay and straight men and women from Czechia and Slovakia, we found no evidence in support of the sexually antagonistic genes hypothesis (SAGH), a hypothesis proposed to explain the persistence of mainly male homosexuality in the human population. Even if, ancestrally, there was a fitness offset in maternal female relatives of homosexual men (i.e., higher fertility in mothers, maternal aunts, and maternal grandmothers),"
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>>5039990
>Evolution doesn't have a conscious will and does not grant purpose
No shit you idiot. The reason the anus is so susceptible to venereal diseases is because it didn't evolve to be penetrated by the penis. Wow are you a moron.
>That's the semen, and a relatively recent disease.
No, that's penetration full-stop you moron. And it's not just HIV either. A whole host of diseases are more likely to be transferred via anal sex because once again moron. The anus is a poop shoot. It didn't evolve to handle penile penetration. You're a moron.
>Regardless it seems early civilized man was aware that goo doesn't go down the hole for men. Greeks, for example, notoriously preferred non-penetrative homosex.
You literally made that up you moron. You are always making shit up. You are a moron.
>The bible that says it's real because of a fairy tale
No shit you moron.
You are once again confusing the history of religion with religious claims.
Wow are you a moron.
you are a hopeless moron and always will be.
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>>5039995
>You're confusing the History of religion with religious claims.
The religion claims that certain events are historical
It claims this history is proof god is real
It claims it has the word of god, and that nothing was adulterated to the point that many claim a specific translation is ordained by god himself.
The history and the faith are inseparable. It is a very abrahamic idea that a faith is its living tradition and it is victorious by the will of god alone.

>carbon dating isn't a religion
The torah is old, yes, but still made up
The new testament is much newer, and also, made up
>They aren't helping their siblings.
My gay relatives have been pretty helpful. Maybe you shouldn't have applied confirmation bias to a confused story about a city's destruction and blamed homosexuality despite not even the torah explicitly doing so.

You know which fags are useless, besides you? Redditors.

>SAGH
Fertility numbers aren't the only factor in human persistence. Homosexuals contribute more resources and less offspring. They're basically worker drones. Literal bugmen (lol)
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>>5039998
>The lungs are so susceptible to airborne diseases because they didn't evolve to respirate near the sick
Great logic.
>You are once again confusing the history of religion with religious claims.
They are inseparable. If a religion claims historical narrative A but all evidence supports narrative B, the history of the religion MUST be paid attention to and the religion is clearly a false faith.
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>>5039999
>The religion claims that certain events are historical
you are once again confusing religious claims with the history of religion.
you're a moron.
>The torah is old, yes, but still made up
No shit you moron.
>The new testament is much newer, and also, made up
It quotes the Dead sea scrolls you moron.
>My gay relatives have been pretty helpful.
Your personal made up experiences are meaningless you stupid moron.
>Fertility numbers aren't the only factor
They literally are you moron.
You're a useless dumb as fuck moron that understands absolutely nothing and never will.
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>>5040001
>>The lungs are so susceptible to airborne diseases because they didn't evolve to respirate near the sick
>Great logic.
breathing in asbestos is as unnatural as anal sex you moron. Wow are you a moron.
>They are inseparable.
No they aren't you moron.
Carbon dating isn't a religion you moron.
History isn't a religion you moron.
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>>5040003
>you are once again confusing religious claims with the history of religion.
The religious claims are a historical narrative. They are inseparable.
>It quotes the Dead sea scrolls you moron.
That doesn't mean it's not new and not made up.
>Your personal made up experiences are meaningless you stupid moron.
Unfortunately for you, they're not. Thanks to alejandro my gay brother for the new computer!
>They literally are you moron.
You could have 10 kids a day and if all of them died it would be meaningless
You could have 10 kids a day and if they were all caveman retards it would be meaningless
Someone who had just two high quality, well equipped children over 30 years could probably erase such a bloodline
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>>5039889
This is also why astrophysics is such an anti-scientific mess that doesn't match reality. It's literally based on jewish mythology.

>>5039892
Yet here you are. Jews and their followers provide incontrovertible proof of supernatural evil.
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>>5040004
>No they aren't
The religion that claims history can not be considered alongside history?
>Carbon dating isn't religion
The torah being old doesn't make it more valid
And quoting the torah doesn't make later writings any older
And yes, religion and history do overlap. abrahamic tomes are notorious for playing the part of a history book and law book at the same time. It's just an older iteration of modern culture.
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>>5040006
>astrophysics
The scientific discipline that is specifically dedicated to matching observed reality to better predict it?

Is this a tone deaf joke or are you just stupid?
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>>5040005
>The religious claims are a historical narrative.
you're once again confusing the history of religion with religious claims. You're a moron.
>That doesn't mean it's not new and not made up.
How can it be new when it's directly copying an older text you moron?
>Unfortunately for you, they're not. Thanks to alejandro my gay brother for the new computer!
You're a stupid moron with the mind of a child.
>You could have 10 kids a day and if all of them died it would be meaningless
You don't even support one child you fucking moron.
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>>5040008
A game of histrionics, devised to waste time
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>>5040010
>you're once again confusing the history of religion with religious claims. You're a moron.
But the religion makes claims about its history, so, they can't be separated.
>How can it be new when it's directly copying an older text you moron?
It's a direct copy? If I quote the torah is my entire post now ancient wisdom? Are you on drugs?
>You're a stupid moron with the mind of a child.
I see, you're jealous my gay brother gave me a new computer for my birthday.
>You don't even support one child you fucking moron.
I support two. Not having to buy a new computer for myself helped that effort a bit.

Just take the L
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>>5040007
>The religion that claims history can not be considered alongside history?
Translate into English moron.
>The torah being old doesn't make it more valid
That claim was never made you moron.
The claim was that Most Christian beliefs were COPIED from Judaism.
>And quoting the torah doesn't make later writings any older
So you're a moron who thinks that Shakespeare was born in the 21st century because his works are still published today. Wow, what a moron you are.
>And yes, religion and history do overlap
Science and history aren't religion.
you're a moron and you always will be.
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>>5040011
>>5040008
Could you both shut up?

>>5040012
>But the religion makes claims about its history
Carbon dating isn't religion.
You're a moron.
>>5040012
>It's a direct copy? If I quote the torah is my entire post now ancient wisdom?
No, it means the people who wrote the bible were observant Jews you moron.
>I see, you're jealous my gay brother
You're a stupid moron with the mind of a child.
>I support two.
No you don't. You can't even read.
>Just take the L
Just grow the fuck up moron.
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>>5040017
>The claim was that Most Christian beliefs were COPIED from Judaism.
Some were
A lot were added arbitrarily and compiled and altered by the romans

>>5040021
>No, it means the people who wrote the bible were observant Jews you moron.
And the people who added to and altered the bible were europeans, followed by over a thousand years of selective adherence and reinterpretation. Religion ultimately doesn't matter that much. We don't do what it says. It does what we want.

I give you 9 jewish deer sacrifices out of 10 on the schizo scale.
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>>5040026
>A lot were added arbitrarily and compiled and altered by the romans
Nope.
Not to the bible itself.
But interpretations of the bible ( like the trinity ) didn't become a thing until the first council of Nicaea in 325 AD. yes, you could attribute that to the Romans.
>And the people who added to and altered the bible were europeans
No they weren't you moron.
There's nothing more hilarious than a complete and utter idiot like you trying to talk about something you know absolutely nothing about.
it's bizarre actually.
>I give you 9 jewish deer sacrifices out of 10 on the schizo scale.
Wow are you a stupid child.
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>>5040008
Yes, a model where 96% of the universe can't be tested for and doesn't exist and whose predictions are always wrong (but then we steal predictions from older models and claim them as our own) is really good and TRVTH!
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>>5040032
The Abrahamic claim of the earth being flat is wrong.
The claim of the earth being the center of the solar system and universe is wrong.
The claim of the sun rotating around the Earth is wrong.
The claim of there being an edge of the earth or edge of the sky is wrong.
The claim of the solar system and universe never changing is wrong.
it is actually Christianity's predictions that are consistently wrong and useless.
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The only birdwatching in this thread is me watching you birdbrains.
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>>5040029
>noone would EVER alter a religious text for their own reasons THE CHURCH IS TRUTHFUL
lol chriggers literally cant comprehend a man in a funny hat lying to them
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>>5040037
truth
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>>5040035
Bro, the current standard model in cosmology is LITERALLY based on jewish mythology introduced by a catholic priest. What the hell do you think I'm talking about? And yes, you're right, all of that shit is wrong. You are incorrect about where it comes from though, because the jews are inveterate plagiarists. They stole their model of the universe from the Mesopotamians.
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>>5040041
bro is going for 10 jewish deer sacrifices out of 10 on the schizo scale
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>>5040038
>>noone would EVER alter a religious text for their own reasons THE CHURCH IS TRUTHFUL
you're the only person who has ever said that you moron.
>lol chriggers literally cant comprehend a man in a funny hat lying to them
Lol, you've got absolutely no idea about anything what so ever. You're a moron!
We have the primary source material used to write the bible.
We have the first complete bible's compiled in the 300's AD.
We have plenty of manuscripts written between the dead sea scrolls and the first bibles.
You can literally see the evolution of Judaism into Christianity.
You can obviously see how Jews created Christianity.
>>5040041
>Bro, the current standard model in cosmology is LITERALLY based on jewish mythology introduced by a catholic priest
The big bang isn't a biblical concept anon.
You're a moron.
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>>5040044
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang?useskin=vector
>in 1931 physicist Georges Lemaître proposed that the universe emerged from a "primeval atom," introducing the modern notion of the Big Bang.
Googlin's HARD! You're acting like this is a controversial statement.
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>>5040044
>bro is going for 10 jewish deer sacrifices out of 10 on the schizo scale
BRO DUDE, SCHIZO, JEW, SACRIFICE, GAY !!!
TEN DEER!!!

Wow are you a stupid moron.
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>>5040047
Ok, that's not a biblical concept anon.
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>>5040046
Then why did the pope literally say it was?

https://inters.org/pius-xii-lemaitre

There's a shit-ton of spin on the webpage, but it does bring up the event.
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>>5040049
It always was, stupid. Literally nobody has ever denied this but you.

>>5040048
And you're a bot that's going to Hell.
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>>5040046
>the bible has never been altered
there’s an entire new testament concluding in a book of absolute bullshit called revelations
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>>5040050
>>5040051
There's no big bang in the bible moron anon.
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>>5040051
>he actually thinks astrophysics is a jewish conspiracy and must be wrong because he hates jews
10/10 jewish deer sacrifices

The wolves are pleased
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>>5040053
>>5040055
>REEEE REEE REEEE!!!
No more questions, please.
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>>5040052
>there’s an entire new testament concluding in a book of absolute bullshit called revelations
No shit moron anon and almost everything in the New testament is quoting or building upon the old testament. Because....
Christianity was created by Jews...
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>>5040055
"gay guy who calls Jewish beliefs stupid constantly accuses other people of antisemitism when orthodox rabbis are famous for hating homosexuals".
Hmmm
Totally not a fed guys.
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Not sure how this thread got onto the concept of jewish "science" but the jewbot got btfo yet again, but for some reason is still permitted to shit up the board.
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>>5040060
Genuine question, why is the word anti-semetism not included in any of the ancient texts
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>>5040057
>christianity has to be jewish!
christianity usurped one jewish book and added a bunch of shit and then reinterpreted that shit a million times until we got this
https://firstchurchseattle.org/gather/fellowship/pride-faith/
its not jews its your own people exercising their own free will

there is no conspiracy
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>>5040065
>free will
Yes free will to sin and blaspheme
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>>5040012
>>5040026
I declare this anon the Winner

>>5040062
11/10 JDS
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>>5040067
>noooo stop interpreting the vague bronze age bullshit
Why not
It got a huge chunk of Egyptian history wrong, fabricated a child holocaust, and the entire creation myth is inaccurate as possible

Christianity is not a valid religion

Anyways I’m gonna go LIST SOME BIRDS
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Its funny there is an actual real life mossad agent that posts his husky on /an/
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>>5040065
Jewish people objectively creating Christianity is historical fact anon.

"The first followers of Christianity were Jews who had converted to the faith, i.e. Jewish Christians"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Christianity

>>5040067
stfu Christ-tard.

>>5040064
>Genuine question, why is the word anti-semetism not included in any of the ancient texts

Because it was coined in the 19th century by Moritz Steinschneider anon...

>>5040069
you're a samefagging moron.

>>5040073
No shit. Most 4chan posters are from Israel who post insane contradictory gibberish 24/7.
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>>5040085
"jews created christianity" implies some sort of ethnic agency and that the whole of the religion is inescapably jewish, but there is no ethnic agency. whoever those people happened to be before is irrelevant, as christianity as we know it has been thoroughly altered and the source text is so contradictory, erroneous, and vague that you can draw any conclusion from it and leave people coping and seething over their disagreements.

Like gay anon who totally btfo the homophobe by interpreting in a biblical basis for consensual homosxual acts, which is actually well supported by alleged divine action. The most homophobic states in the US are constantly punished by what can only be called acts of god and the most homophobic people on earth keep getting wrecked by lgbtq ukie and IDF forces.

>No shit. Most 4chan posters are from Israel who post insane contradictory gibberish 24/7.
Most 4chan posters are from the US. Are you saying the US is in fact the kingdom of israel?
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>>5040090
>The most homophobic states in the US are constantly punished
The crackhead with a knife in his hand is also an act of god, slitting the throat of the most color blind liberal cattle
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>>5040090
>>No shit. Most 4chan posters are from Israel who post insane contradictory gibberish 24/7
Sounds like an acts of demons desu, if you were a perpetual liar, you'd be bound to contradict yourself inevitably
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Yet again you fail to understand that the reason because true followers suffer harder is because the path is narrow.
The path to hell is broad
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>>5040110
>Demons
Demons are not real, but if the christian ones were, they'd post on reddit and encourage veganism and talk about the importance of liberty and the relative value of life because that would go against yahweh in the most fundamental way possible. The polar opposite of yahweh's demands sold as a purely positive and beneficial ideology - true satanism.
"I did not recommend the apple because I hated god - but because I loved you"
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>>5040123
>The polar opposite of yahweh's demands sold as a purely positive and beneficial ideology - true satanism.
Which would be murder your neighbors if they irritate even a single hair on your body and engage in public gangrapes, and steal from whoever can't defend themselves.
Also again they 100% are. They just don't manifest themselves to an atheist Scoyience big bang theory type like you
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>>5040123
>god's morals: i want humanity to survive in perpetuity
>demon's morals: i want humanity to do what is logically right
god created man to experience an unpredictable universe partially determined by a near-equal through the intersection between a race with absolute free will and near-divine influence and his own omniscience
demons and angels are the most rational and perfect beings ever willed into creation.

his morals are anthropocentric and centered around guaranteeing his mini-me's survival in the material world. or as the gnostics would put it, keeping humanity in "the matrix" so they can't equal god. their morals are about making sense because to a thing that can not create, that can not collapse probability, only acknowledge it, making sense and being predictable is the highest virtue.
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>>5040129
>They 100% are
They are not. You must understand and honestly believe that demons have a 0% chance of being real.

>Which would be murder your neighbors if they irritate even a single hair on your body and engage in public gangrapes
That would be a demon operating on an immature dataset. A better trained demon would be a bit more sophisticated.

Think of a theoretical demon as like an AI. They are a purely rational being. They lack passion. They lack creation. They can not influence, only observe. Their highest virtue is rationality their divintiy is a correct prediction.
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Very interesting thread about birdwatching!
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>>5040136
sadly there is nothing to discuss about birdwatching other than how silly birdwatchers are

in the modern era every bird has been filmed extensively and the only people with good reason to go out are wildlife biologists setting up blinds to try and spot undisturbed natural behavior
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>>5040136
It is about schizowatching now.



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