Me big man! Me kills defenseless baby birds that are recovering from avian flu to prove how much of a big man I am!! Unga bunga!
>>5051376I don't know how you expect anything to change in that part of the world when the locals are going extinct.
>>5051383If the locals do this then don't expect sympathy from me. Fuck them.
>>5051385And that's why nobody cares about you or things you care about.You're a psychopath.
>>5051385This is why environmentalism is dying. Anti-human vegan fucktards and doomsday alarmists made it more unsavory than any amount of corpo propaganda ever could. If your ethics break from materialism and natural self interest you have no ethics. You have a religion. What is to be done with a religion that puts humans below birds?
>>5051399Humans are a cancer upon the planet and deserve to go extinct.
>>5051401>t. can't score so he has to make it a political stance
>>5051401>NOOO LIFE CANT CONSUME LIFEI am ethically obliged to throw you in a pit
>>5051401To what end? A planet that returns to a primeval state for the next however many million years until something happens and everything on Earth dies? The lifespan of this planet is finite and uncertain. Humanity is the species best positioned to make an attempt to escape that limitation, the last and greatest extinction event. Eliminating us would do nothing but give the next species to attempt it, if there is one in some millions of years, an Earth with fewer resources and less time.Humanity has been given this opportunity either by design or by chance, and to commit species-wide suicide instead of giving it our collective best attempt would be pathetic.
>>5051399>What is to be done with a religion that puts humans below birds?You have it backwards. Why should anyone respect the lives of these humans if they behave in such a manner? Do you, in your twisted value judgment automatically value a mass murderer more than an animal? When said mass murderer may as well no longer be considered human anyway by their actions?
>BREAKING: vegan tards call people who hunt birds "mass murderers", demand that they be considered as LESS than a dumb fucking animal - because they killed birds for food!"And then, for no reason, people voted trump into power.">>5051479Humans are worth more than animals.All humans.All animals.No exceptions.You can not murder a game bird. Murder is a term for humans. Rygelians. Martians. Canis majorans. Beings.Question the line to feel clever, and see what happens to you.Intelligent life has been visting this planet for centuries and has acquired a taste for beef in the process. ARAs and vegans are uniquely stupid by galactic standards.
>>5051480Absolutist nonsense you don't even actually believe or practice I wager. Nothing but hot air, human self-fellation and virtue signalling. Yet is probably a racist who also thinks less of other humans for arbitrary reasons.
>>5051376Are you also against shit like native americans being able to hunt with traditional methods?
>>5051399>What is to be done with a religion that puts humans below birds?All according to design. Satan wants to ruin creation in every possible way, but he needs recruits, so divide and conquer strategies become necessary.Split the thesis ("I am above the birds, so I must take care of the birds!") into two, violently-opposed camps:>I am above the birds, so fuck the birds! Fry that chicken!>I am below the birds, so I must take care of the birds. Fuck humanity!Great success!
>>5051482human self interest and racism are not incompatible, viewed from the standpoint of preserving humanity’s prospects by keeping disadvantageous archaic alleles (ie: lower intelligence, higher reactive aggression) out of advanced populations. under such a system low averaging groups would be subject to more stringent screening and not receive international aid due to the likelihood of free food preventing natural selection for better traits and taking away the natural selective advantages held by more intelligent and cooperative people with more executive control. >>5051488birds are food. sustainable culling for consumption is fine. religious pilpul and schizophrenia not needed.
>>5051493furthermore human devaluation on the basis of ideology is extremely selected for. if your ideology says to kill the farmer and punish those who eat meat, it is not anti-human to be against you although you are human. it is pro human overall.
>>5051422Humans need to go extinct before the cancer spreads further. There is a reason why aliens do their best to contain Humans on this planet.
>>5051422>A planet that returns to a primeval state for the next however many million years until something happens and everything on Earth dies?Yes. The planet would objectively be a better place for every living thing other than humans were humans to disappear. The literal only time humans ever do anything positive for the rest of the planet is when certain humans attempt to reverse the harm caused by other humans. "Animal welfare" organizations and activities are really just "attempting to reverse human damage" organizations.>The lifespan of this planet is finite and uncertain. Humanity is the species best positioned to make an attempt to escape that limitationAs >>5051509 said, if >>5051401 is true (it is) then humans escaping the planet is the worst possible outcome. Fortunately, space exploration is pure fantasy and we will never have to witness the undoubtedly horrific consequences of imposing humanity on extraterrestrial life.If humans are so callous toward life on our own planet, imagine how much worse it would be if we were to encounter life on a foreign planet. We'd have like a week of being kind due to the novelty before we started slaughtering everything for resources or to make living space or whatever other cope we'd invent.
>>5051422Humans are speedrunning the planet's decline anyway.
>>5051488>Satan wants to ruin creation in every possible wayHumanity is doing that just fine without any supernatural intervention.
>>5051516And Africa hasn't even started to seriously industrialize yet. Just wait until the entire African continent starts looking like and polluting on the same level as India or China, then we'll really see some speedrunning.
Humanity is doing a great job. Not everything needs to be left unchanged. I for one am excited to see the beginning of new animals evolving like pizzly bears, murdersquirrels, and sapient coyotes. Don't get me started on the ones we're going to create in the future.Also, anyone who hates humanity should be executed. It is time to lump the tree huggers in with the trees. Day of the chainsaw. Aint no pagan wannabe hippy getting in the way of me and witnessing the creation of gigabamboo, colossal birch, and giant poplar after the worlds forests run out.>B-BUT THE SPIRIT OF GAIA! MAN IS THE OPPOSITE OF NATURE! IT SAYS SO IN THE CREATION MYTHS! WE ARE NOT PART OF THE PLANET WE'RE SPECIAL!And yet the termite builds hills, the beaver builds dams, and a funny blue blob exterminated most life on earth.>>5051516We will replace reefs with our own versionhttps://www.sustainability-times.com/climate/scientists-create-heat-resistant-super-corals-that-could-save-entire-marine-ecosystems-from-collapse/If, and only if, the lineages of the high IQ races are kept pure and we don't do to europe and asia what happened to india, persia, egypt, greece...
>>5051376The entire island is vile to their natural life.
>>5051523Maybe when all the lame birds that are dumb enough to be eaten by cats are extinct we can have global parrot distribution and endemic giant ratites on every continent, and every forest can be a petting zoo#teamcat #humanityrules
>>5051523>Interestingly, the study found that short-term heat tolerance did not necessarily equate to long-term resilience. This suggests that different genetic factors may control these traits, raising concerns about the long-term sustainability of selective breeding as a conservation strategy. As a result, while selective breeding may offer a quick and cost-effective means of enhancing coral resilience, it must be complemented by broader efforts to mitigate climate change.
The amount of attention starved feigning retardation for (you)s here has reached critical levels. I would wish you misery but I know you're already living it.
British people would kill Irish the same way they kill these baby birds and foxes if they were allowed to.
>>5051631>British people
>>5051637Good morning sir
>>5051637Oh no, it's a different tribe that lives a few miles up the north of their shitty island. Totally different person I agree.Meanwhile you will say every African is the same.
>>5051401Ok then, you can start it :)
>>5051480>Trump out of nowhere>meme phrase reposted for the umpteenth time we would be better off if all your pet politicians exploded and the explosion vaporized all the cattle who treat politics this way.
>>5051684neolib bullshit like calling hunters subhuman for eating a fucking bird is in fact what makes people side with fascists. People desperately want their children to grow up in a world where they wont be exposed to false morals like yours, that take five words based on nothing to explain and a study in reality (which is too complex for children to handle) to debunk beyond a shadow of a doubt. >there is a giant octopus under the lands and he eats people who eat animals>mandatory retort: 2 years of natural history educationYes, your morals are false. Wrong. Objectively. Anything but anthropocentrism is wrong by default.
>>5051480There are too many of us for human life to matter. If you look at history, most humans are worthless but for the few outliers who uplift us and make real change in the world.
>>5051688Vegans and ARAs begin ramping up to peak evil when they have to contend with"Animals are not people"And"Humans who eat meat are smarter, taller, and longer lived than those who don’t when other factors are controlled for"It’s a carnivores planet. Vegans are just whining on it. The world as a whole is turning on conservation and animal rights because the people advocating for it got co-opted by misanthropic narcissists. Climate accords are being ignored. Elephants are being culled. Oversight for factory farms is being axed. If only the liberals were not retarded.
>>5051696Your life doesnt matter? Start with yourself and stop spreading your evil faggotry then. If you really believe this you will have no problem dying right now. Or is this actually a narcissism thing?
>>5051688>calling hunters subhuman for eating a fucking birdNice disingenuous twisting you got going there when the article is about killing chicks, which are clearly not suitable for feeding anyone really.
>>5051699There are enough birds to eat someThe chicks taste the best and represent the least energy expenditure to huntSimple as
>>5051698npc response on the same level as catfags always deflecting to muh humans whenever people bring up cats as invasive problem animals.
>>5051707So it’s more about your narcissism then.
>>5051703>The chicks taste the bestLiteral china level "it tastes better when we torture it" nonsense. And this isn't even a matter of survival either, they are just doing it for tradition.
>>5051709Whatever you say to deflect away from your own narcissism, just accuse someone else of t.
>>5051710No, its a smaller animals are less greasy and tough thing. >>5051712>no u!You want everyone else to be worthless but oh no not you because *excuses*. You are very moral and progressive. Sure you’re totally not a narcissistic beta.
>>5051714Nobody is going to act on the same old dismissive bullshit. You really have to be dumb if you act so enraged or confused at people seeing it for what it is.>people are a problem>uhhh....why don't you kill yourselves so we don't have to do anything and anyone who thinks like you do just leaves us alone to continue being a problem? Its much easier than having to think about things other than myself
>>5051716People are not a problem. "Wild untouched nature" is not more important than humanity. You are a narcissist. You worship the thing humans will always change so you can hate all other humans and say you are the only thinking man. But you’re just a pompous cultist.
>>5051717Environmental change happens naturally over the course of millions of years. When humans destroy an environment and drive species to extinction over the course of a couple of generations, or even faster in modern times, they're not following the ways of nature, they're just making Earth not suitable for life, for any form of life aside from some weeds, bacteria and pathogens. They are ruining the world in general and for themselves, like burning your own house down and people like you are enablers who wants everyone to shove their heads in the sand and do nothing because you are either stupid or evil projecting on others that you are the moral one. Acting alone isn't just a problem to you, even acknowledging there's a problem at all is bad.
>>5051722>bbbut the world changed really fast!>SO ALL LIFE WILL DIE!Wrong. Cut it out with your alarmism. Acting like a bird hunt is like a chinese toxic lake. The british isles are an ecological "wasteland" and will never return to a pre-civilization state. The animals are extinct. And they’re fucking paradise because we only got rid of the shitty parts of nature. Soon you will be the most hated ideology on earth. When malaria and chagas make it big in the US nature will be purged and you will be that guy who would rather see a specific bird than save a million lives.
>>5051729Again with your useless virtue signalling. I can't wait for us to save these millions of lives only for you to then bitch about those subhumans who are destroying nature in their countries and draining resources that should have been spent on you alone.
>>5051735But the subhumans aren’t draining resources. You got undeveloped thirdies mixed up with israel for some reason.
>>5051738>You got gun mixed up with finger-pulling-the-trigger for some reason.truly a mystery
>>5051748So not only do you falsely believe undeveloped nations are leeches, you think there is a grand jewish conspiracy to make them so?It’s literally just excessive misplaced charity. Jews and christians both do it because their religion forces them to. There is no conspiracy, just religion causing similar forms of retardation to arise independently. The only leeching is anything resembling communist behavior. If kept to the free market (with reasonable limits placed upon the most wealthy and powerful by their governments, aka the common sense economy) and given no unpurchased help thirdie subhumans rapidly evolve and become firstie humans within 75-150yrs. Even china is polluting less and less over time and turning against dog eaters. Why? Because they stopped getting gibs and got trade instead. Leave it to a tree hugger to be fucking retarded.
hypocrisy as expected of /an/. a thread full of defenders for a needless tradition that is not essential to survival alongside posturing of human sovereignty when the same people would probably bitch and cry and clutch their pearls about china and other places doing heinous shit to animals that subjectively worse or not.
>>5051757>hunting a dumb feathered lizard for food is the same as blowtorching a companion animal aliveThe vegan brain is only partially developed.
>>5051759Both are done entirely out of tradition and not all due to being essential or for survival, they are exactly as valid as one another. It's okay to have an arbitrary set of ethics, being arbitrary and then criticizing others for being arbitrary makes for flimsy ground to stand on however.
>>5051484they had their window, and if you'd ever been to a reservation and seen how they treat the land you'd know better than to take their side. Chugs just throw their empty beer cans in the river.
>>5051762>doubles down on eating a bird = torturing a dog to deathdogs are one of two animals (the other is cats) for which maltreatment consistently correlates with later violent crime because they were bred to induce empathy. a normal human does not get s choice to feel empathy. they have it or they do not. birds are soulless automatons that perfectly normal humans eat by the dozen and that cats munch on while perfectly normal humans laugh. humans never evolved empathy for birds. but defective humans such as the autistic and psychopaths can still develop a substitute form of sympathy, often a disordered one!you must understand that all values are abstracted factsit is a fact that a dog is not a birdand it is a fact that a cat is not a birdand the value that holds that birds are worth less than dogs is an abstraction of the facts of each animals existence and their relationship with non-defective humansremember… yes, even the chinese hate dog/cat eaters. because they are a minority of very stupid village folk.
>>5051766Im not particularly taking their side I'm just trying to find out if you are consistent in ur beliefs.Its true that reservation Indians don't give a shit about nature but i was more thinking of the ice pakis in Canada and shit that actually still live in a somewhat traditional manner
>>5051767>because they are a minority of very stupid village folk.They are the dominant conservative folk believing in holding to traditions.
>>5051769>no stop reducing things to governing principles this has to be about tradition is le bad!it is a fact that a dog is not a birdcognitively normal people (not subhuman aspies and psychos) perceive and feel differently about dogs and birdskilling dogs correlates with assault, murder, and rapekilling cats does as wellkilling birds does notkilling a few pigs does not but killing 100 pigs a day does, so perhaps, man should not eat so many pigsall REAL values derive from REAL facts: what an animal is, and how it relates to manwhether something is tradition or not is irrelevant. those are abstractions. they are not real. abstractions are ghost stories and as tempting as it is to pretend they are facts to spare yourself the trouble of actually thinking about things, abstractions are not data.
>>5051772You are coping hard in your bias and revisionism. It wasn't long ago that compassion for any animal life would have been considered some sort of mental illness, and before then, a symptom of paganism and witchcraft. Basically the majority of life as we know it were seen as nothing more than detestable, unclean vermin, sometimes even regarded as unholy, arising somehow outside the Judeo-Christian God's creation plan. I get it, you hate birds or something or w/e, but trying to pretend that dogs and cats have and always will be some sacred cow (lol) is just silly.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat-burning
>>5051710Those things aren't even remotely the same.
>>5051775You missed his point entirely and your entire post is fallacious>what about>me hate jesus>le moral relativism (if morals are relative to anything other than the factual state of things, they do not exist at all and you are an idiot)His point was that values are a form of fact, not a belief, and that abstraction is worthless without its base material. AKA the meta-awareness of heuristic thought - or the denial of the is-ought gap - somethin' you need to have if your philosophy includes no gods, allahs, buddhas, or fifty armed blue skinned demons. The other point was dogs and cats are different from other animals because they were bred to be. Which is kind of obvious. When you breed an animal to be a friend that necessarily transcends cultures and targets base human instincts so people not educated in the ways automatically engage in the correct behavior.
>>5051775>cats have a necessary relationship with empathy and harming them is disturbing to people who have it in spades>most other animals don't>old europeans burned cats>old europe was also the staging grounds for more wars than anywhere else in history>cat burning etc only ground to a halt stopped after ww1 and ww2 resulted in the voluntary extermination of the most enthusiastically violent people on the continent>cat burners vanished sheep herders remainedYou're really only supporting the point he's making
>>5051793more RECORDED wars than anywhere else*
>>5051808Maybe that's because they were actually notable wars instead of 30 people mobbing a camp of another 30 people in the middle of the night and smacking mfs with clubs
>>5051811Well yes you need to have a concept of history in order for historical records to exist.
>>5051399This guy eats dogs.
>>5052119You keep saying this like you are desperate for his attention. Like a woman, or a man with a leaky asshole.
>>5052121This guy also eats dogs.
