>kill catget years in jail>rape, kill and dismember cowno punishmentjustify this.
>>5062180both of those are equally bad. im not sure where you got the idea of raping cows, unless people are selectively breeding them or actually sticking their dick in them.
>>5062180If you're murdering cats or dogs it is because they are causing damage to your property. Sadly it is okay to kill vermin that are causing you or your property harm.Cows are livestock raised for meat or dairy. This is just their destiny. Sorry. They eat a shit load of food and would die in the wild for the most part. Bread yeasts destiny is to get cooked to death while farting a lot. Cows destiny is to get grow big farting a lot and then get humanely killed and chopped up into extremely tasty morsels.
>>5062187>This is just their destiny. meant to type "justify this without using vague bullshit", sorry for not clarifying before
>>5062180No, because it's wrong. Ranchers are a very powerful lobbying group in america. Always have been.
>>5062187Your destiny is to go extinct due to your own sociopathy, low IQ and arrogance.
>>5062191There would be no domesticated livestock if there werent humans that wanted to eat them dipshit.>>5062193Your emotionally charged non argument demonstrates your beautifully low IQ and womanly features. Now post tits or gtfo, cunt.
>>5062194>it's okay to kill and torture animals because we created them
>>5062180You rape, kill and dismember a cow for a material reason of obtaining meat to eat. If you don't do either of those things you won't get meat. Raping, killing and dismembering a cat provides nothing to justify the process that went into the murder or rape of an animal.
>>5062196Will you let me rape, kill and dismember you for meat to eat, anon?
>>5062197No because there is a conflict of interest in humans eating eachother and the rape would serve no purpose (on top of other problems around protein diseases). The fact you can't seperate the ethics of butchering a totally seperate species of animal from our own is troubling.
>>5062197Imagine if sharks were stupid enough to make your statements fed anon.>>5062200That dude is a fed. It's inorganic stupidity.
>>5062196>Raping, killing and dismembering a cat provides nothing It provides joy and perhaps even meat for whoever is doing the killing voluntarily. It may also provide them with a great sense of relief and a better quality of life if that cat was a pest.>to justify the process that went into the murder or rape of an animal.The process of doing anything concrete is not a moral contention. The contention is the killing itself.
>>5062180>justify this.I can't. clearly we need to decriminalize cat killing and put an end to this injustice
>moraltranny bait thread number six gorillionpass.
>>5062209>It provides joy and perhaps even meat for whoever is doing the killing voluntarily.>It may also provide them with a great sense of relief and a better quality of life if that cat was a pestPest control is a different topic entirely and is not illegal to do so. Exterminators kill feral cat colonies all the time. As for killing for leisure that is a contentious point as even hunting today straddles a fine line on what people see as justifiable, with animals you can hunt and eat being accepted and animals you wouldn't typically kill for food being frowned on. So killing a cat outside of pest control and just for the fun of it can still be immoral.>The process of doing anything concrete is not a moral contention. The contention is the killing itselfThe act of killing is only contentious on what motivated it to begin with.
>>5062183The majority of cows are conceived by artificial insemination, which is rape, objectively.
>>5062225>Pest control is a different topic entirely and is not illegal to do so.Depends on where you live and how you go on about it.>So killing a cat outside of pest control and just for the fun of it can still be immoral.What's morality here? You're just invoking what society thinks without justifying any fundamental beliefs.>The act of killing is only contentious on what motivated it to begin with.I agree, that's why bringing up the "process" was irrelevant.
>>5062194>There would be no domesticated livestock if there werent humans that wanted to eat them dipshit.Why does this matter? They don't have to exist.
>>5062196You can eat cats too. Asians eat cats often and Europeans used to do it as well. They're reportedly very tasty, just like cows.
>>5062180There isn't one. Thirdies have the valid cope of needing to do this to survive, but firsties cannot justify the discrepancy. never even mind the superfluous gap between human and animal life and the ever growing list of ways science tries to distinguish us from them to cope with the paradox >man is when a featherless biped, no actually they have to have flat nails, actually what makes humans better is god and having a soul which you define by uhhh.... no wait actually it's consciousness which is distinguished by uhhhh being able to feel pain, wait no it's being able to solve problems and tool use, I mean it's- it's when you can recognize yourself in a mirror, I mean it's when uhhh when you're really smart because uhh you- when you can speak a language, other creatures can't do that, wait uhhhh ohhhh... It's having an imagination and being able to do art!! yeah that's- wait, wait no... it's when you can do agriculture- hold on, wait...
>>5062228>Depends on where you live and how you go on about it.True, but as far as I am aware most English speaking countries permit it as far as I am aware and .22lr is the easiest and quickest way to do it (and more "fun" if you want to look at it from an experiential perspective and not a material service).>What's morality here? You're just invoking what society thinks without justifying any fundamental beliefsWhen you hunt and kill a deer you are conventionally doing so under the idea that you want it's pelt or meat. If you shoot a deer and leave it's corpse to rot in the woods that's when things get questionable as you have killed for no justifiable cause and just for the sake of it. That is why trophy hunters are moraly questioned overtime and the trophies are so important as you are recieving a material reward from killing the animal in a sport that is centered on killing for the sake of it.>I agree, that's why bringing up the "process" was irrelevant.You rape a cow to produce more cows to kill for meat. Unless you are starting a cat meat farm raping a cat is a needless and immoral act.
>>5062240>If you shoot a deer and leave it's corpse to rot in the woods that's when things get questionable as you have killed for no justifiable cause and just for the sake of it.You're imposing a presupposition that acts like a black box.On its face, this is your argument,>If you [do X] [to Y] and [waste Y] that's when things get questionable as you have [done X] for no justifiable cause and just for the sake of itFor your argument to work, you need to explain what the weight of killing an animal is and how you have arrived to that conclusion, since that's the actual contention.In my ego-centric world view where I matter most, it would be okay to kill any animal but humans and animals owned by other humans without their consent, because fundamentally, a society where killing humans were allowed would spiral into self-destruction pretty quickly, whereas we can kill and even torture other animals liberally without any lasting significant negative repercussions to society (which is a proxy for myself)
>>5062249>For your argument to work, you need to explain what the weight of killing an animal is and how you have arrived to that conclusion, since that's the actual contention.If you want to debate the signficance of animal life on a fundamental level and not why the killing of a cat is treated different than killing a cow then you will find there is not a lot of contention between the two of us on a fundamental level. Animal life does not hold the same weight as humans, but if someone is capeble of killing an animal designated as a companion animal or is seeking out the experience of killing for the sake of it that signals to other humans that the individual in question might be a threat to them as well. Not because of their capacity to kill necessarily but them clearly deriving pleasure from killing which is why justification is often a cornerstone from people who enjoy hunting.
>>5062236>There isn't one. Thirdies have the valid cope of needing to do this to surviveNo, Veganism is only pushed against whites to destroy them. That's it. You're a fed.Nobody can survive long term as a RAW vegan.Pregnant women kill their babies with veganism.>>5062260>>5062249Fed anon is samefagging.
>>5062261All me.
>>5062261This.
>>5062197Please do this to me, also feed me my own peanus wanus please.
brown hellspawn thread
>>5062240The justifiable cause is that I knew bacteria, fungus, and vultures were hungry.
>>5062236Name the trait isnt a valid argument because it assumes moral value is de-assignable and universal and refuses to acknowledge real essence. It only operates in a world of pure symbolic logic which does not exist. >>5062180False premise. People and other animals can kill their own and pest cats at will in most of the world. That said cows are worth more dead than alive, while cats are worth more alive than dead if they should be needed, and because they are a brood parasite with empathy signaling similar to infants low T men, fathers, and women who purposefully hurt them are high risk and shouldn’t be trusted. High T single men can kill cats without issue. No one sane can kill dogs without issue because their bond with man is much deeper than mimicry.
>>5062228What society thinks IS moral. Morality is the average of human survival instincts. Individual morality is not a valid concept btw. Your individual opinions are worthless. Ethical, specifically the only ethics system that works - ethical naturalism - is a fact of creation and your life will get worse if you do wrong by it. Objectively. Factually. Unavoidably. Anal sex for example is naturally unethical. Your ass will get loser, you will be at higher risk for incontinence and prolapse, and you are more likely to have chronic fissures, fistulas, and STDs no matter how you do it. OP is totally fucked!
>>5062330>Pregnancy for example is naturally unethical. Your vagina will get loser, you will be at higher risk for incontinence and prolapse, and you are more likely to have chronic fissures, fistulas, and UTIs
>>5062478Pregnancy is natural therefore good. This is not a fallacy. Go against pregnancy and you will go extinct. Not even a fossil will attest to how logically right you were.
>>5062261Scientifically false, only thing that's hard to come by is b12 and even then you just need to find the right plants (icelandic moss or the algae). No idiot can survive long term as a raw vegan, you have to be an informed vegan to be healthy, which is true with meat too but you can get away with more lazy diets and just get fat instead.Regardless I never argued for veganism, you can milk a cow without killing it. You can even eat the cow when it gets old and dies and you've changed nothing about its quality of life.But all of that is irrelevant to you because you're arguing in bad faith and a retard or you wouldn't be pushing white erasure in the same comment. Take your lazy schizoposting back to /b/ where it belongs.
>>5062629That’s only essential nutrients for… not dying. You’re missing out on a ton of shit that requires a global assembly of specialty fungus and algae to get>this is proof humans are herbivores!!!!!the best part is vegans dont live longer or get smarterthey’re just more likely to be rich whites and asians, the kind that was born into moneythey have to be compared against slop fed factory workers to look good
>>5062638You’re forgetting all their moral mental gymnastics that the god of logic they don’t believe in will not reward them for following when they die. Such benefits of operating entirely detached from reality, unable to even define person, despite there being very real mortal consequences for not defining person correctly.
>>5062638You can eat a bucket worth of algae every day and still not get any B12 into your system - if you eat too much food rich in folate (leafy green vegetables, citrus fruits, legumes, nuts, and liver). Many such cases - look for food synergy on the interwebs.
>>5062230Only subhumans eat cats and dogs
>>5062230only the vietnamese eat cats, everyone else eats dogs
>>5062646a trvke people overly fond of their less civilized ancestors dont like to hear
>>5062629>Scientifically false, only thing that's hard to come by is b12 and even then you just need to find the right plants (icelandic moss or the algae). No idiot can survive long term as a raw vegan, you have to be an informed vegan to be healthy, which is true with meat too but you can get away with more lazy diets and just get fat instead.>Regardless I never argued for veganism, you can milk a cow without killing it. You can even eat the cow when it gets old and dies and you've changed nothing about its quality of life.>But all of that is irrelevant to you because you're arguing in bad faith and a retard or you wouldn't be pushing white erasure in the same comment. Take your lazy schizoposting back to /b/ where it bel-ACKYeah, just ignore the shape of human teeth and human digestive system. Humans are omnivore, nothing more and nothing less.
>>5062696>ignore the shape of human teeth and human digestive systeTeeth is a losing battle, but the digestive tract kills the vegan. It's an actual truke
>>5062802Human teeth are distinctly adapted to eating cooked and sun dried meathttps://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4122-meat-eating-is-an-old-human-habit/>vegans: but REAL carnivores...kill and dissect with their mouths. humans use their hands for all of that. why would humans evolve tool-teeth? nothing would have favored it since humans only use their teeth to chew.our subhuman ancestors were already using tools to crack nuts. using tools to crack skulls was a leap but not an improbable one, and it led to the jump from man to ape.>>5062696also ignore all the "inessential" micronutrients that support things brain health and the musculoskeletal system and only come from highly processed fungi/algae, meat, eggs, and cheesevegan diets are the biggest scam of shoddy science in history. as long as you're not an amerifat, compare yourself to poorer, blacker people eating 4000mg+ of sodium, 1lb of smoked/cured red meat, and two candybars per day and wow your diet totally has benefits and it's definitely from omitting animal products and not all the actual bad choices>vegans: meat is a heckin carcinogen. just one hot dog or mcdouble a day can move your colon cancer risk from 0.002% to 0.004%!>sane people: i don't eat hot dogs or char broiled salt patties soaked in artificial smoke doe>vegans: WE IZ HIGHER IQ ON AVERAGE>sane people: looks like there's just a lack of blaxican vegans in your sample
>>5062822ZASEDFuck birds. Humans > dogs > cats > birds and all other mammals. Birdfags are mentally ill.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BaC3kmDOC-c
>>5062180both are fun!
>>5062822>>5062834toxobrain
>>5062804Iodine is another interesting one.
>>5062834But pigeons use to live in the attics of humans to keep as messengers and food before the telephone. So why do pigeons get to be ignored when they just like cats and dogs played a huge role in the advancement of the western world.
>>5062848mammal planet, bird turd. wannabe theropods go in the cluck shed.
>>5062841>calling others toxo when he owns a bird that shits all over the house including on him
>>5062180Cows are so fucking cute
>>5062867I don't own a bird
>>5062873Cute cat food
>>5062873That's pretty funny.
>>5062873So you own a rat that shits/pisses all over you? Got it
>>5062892I don't have any pets. take your meds toxobrain
>>5062894Cool, so like a nigger in a Mensa exam, you have no place being in this thread talking about anything
>>5062917I didn't realize pet ownership was a requirement for hating toxobrains and other defective mutants like yourself. seems kinda arbitrary desu
>>5062193Marry me.
>>5062193>Most powerful projection
There's nothing wrong with being vegan. The more zealots you get against your cause just proves you right.
>>5062978By that logic pedophiles are a justifiable cause lmaoWhat retarded logic, but then again this is veganism so it makes sense
>>5063179It is, but your brain is ready for that.
>>5063186Lol, oh we aren't galaxy-brained enough to understand why you're a god because you're a pedophile?Realy?You are going to go with that?Please enlighten us Muhammad Epstein Catholic Priest. Please, share your infinite wisdom with us that only you possess...
Does any anon in the UK keep farm animals or Horses?
>>5063352No, Africans and feds living in the UK don't keep farm animals generally speaking.
