>doesn’t have super toxic mouth bacteria>doesn’t have deadly venomous salivaWhen did this update happen and whose idea was it?
No other monitor lizard is venomous. There's like 3 venomous lizards at all and they're all in the same genus.
>>5062973All monitor lizards are venomous. Also there are 5 species of Heloderma, not 3
>>5062967theyre not venomous??putting the sore spine in spinosaurus
>>5062973Varanids belong to the Toxicofera clade along with Anguimorphs, Iguanomorphs, and snakes.
>>5062967komodos are still venomous you spectacular retard
>>5063117They are venomous but their venom isn’t deadly you illiterate ape
Is komodo dragon venom distinct from pre-digestive compounds in saliva? Or is it more like venom repurposed to fit a similar role.
>>5063016>all monitor lizards are venomous>here check out this wall of abstract penises as proof
>>5063145>anon can’t use google to seek the answers he seeksGrim
>>5063028They are their venom is just really weak
But they have both of those things. Their mouths harbor Pasteurella multocida and their lower jaw glands secrete anticoagulation venom. We can observe them hunting by inflicting a bite and then waiting for the animal to weaken and droop before they continue attacking. It's super cool.
>>5063178>Their mouths harbor Pasteurella multocidaNot particularly toxic nor unique to Komodo dragons>their lower jaw glands secrete anticoagulation venomTheir venom is hardly more toxic than a blue tongued skink’s saliva, not deadly>We can observe them hunting by inflicting a bite and then waiting for the animal to weaken and droop before they continue attackingThis is a myth
>>5063181Anon, no, these things are not myths. It is observable and we have footage of it and can go watch them. "Deadly" and "dangerous" are also two different words with two meanings. They have bad and debilitating bites and biting their prey once is enough to ensure high odds at getting a meal in. If you disagree, please provide corroboration outside of declaration - And further, go get bit by one. The over demystification of nature is almost worse than the over mystification of
>>5063185>Anon, no, these things are not myths. It is observableWhat has been observed completely contradicts the bacteria myth:>Although previous studies proposed that Komodo dragon saliva contains a variety of highly septic bacteria that would help to bring down prey,[52][58] research in 2013 suggested that the bacteria in the mouths of Komodo dragons are ordinary and similar to those found in other carnivores>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2888571/ “During 2002–2009, TSJ (Tim Jessop) recorded 17 observations of lizard attacks on large prey, deer and pigs: 12 were successful (fatal) and 5 (30%) were unsuccessful (4 deer and 1 pig). When prey escaped the initial attack, they sustained bite injuries that included lacerations to limbs and rump. An escaped prey can subsequently recover, be killed soon in a second attack by other lizards, or succumb to its wounds and/or infection hours or days later. Of these 5 escapes, one animal was soon attacked and killed by a second lizard (Fig. 1), two died within hours without further attack, one was pursued by 4 other lizards as it fled, and one limped away without pursuit by other lizards. Thus 1–2 of 17 attacks resulted in prey that may have survived long enough to become infected.”It’s a myth and never made sense from the beginning. They live in high population densities. A dragon that patiently waits for prey to expire from infection will just have its meal stolen by other dragons>They have bad and debilitating bitesYeah, because they have ziphodont teeth that easily tear flesh. Prey bleeds out from the wounds inflicted. Bacteria have nothing to do with it and venom only has a minor role>”Deadly" and "dangerous" are also two different words with two meaningsLiterally nobody mentioned the word dangerous
>>5062973>beaded lizard>gila monsterWhat's the third one?
>>5063141its a hemotoxin, not necrotic
>>5063230That can mean a couple things. Is it at least similar to snake venom metalloproteinases and have they been able to isolate it yet?
>>5063238snakes and monitors are more related to each other than they are to everything else, we just dont know when exactly. theyre just anticoagulants in monitors which isnt too dissimilar to some vipers
>>5063178>>5063185Anon is from the 1970s
>>5063205Stephen Miller.
