>Castrate your cat!What about the inevitable health issues that will plague it for the rest of his life?>Oh, no worries! Just bring him back to me!>Don't forget your checkbook!>We also take cash and credit cards and offer easy payment plans with low interest!You didn't fall for it, did you?
>>5064731Schizo.
When I took my unmutilated cat for rabies shots I asked if I should bring him back every year for checkups. The vet told me that's only for castrated cats who can develop serious health issues like urinary tract blockage that can be fatal (and often needs expensive surgery to fix).
>>5064736>>5064737Proof it's AI?
i didnt fall for the cat meme at all
>>5064744Too bad. Saved me loads of money on therapists. Now instead of paying out of my ass to talk to some bitch for 30 mins, I just cuddle with my cat.
>>5064742It has none. The thing going around calling everything AI and feds is a zigger employed by the zigger military that just got assigned to this board in the past couple weeks. Why do you think you never saw these spamposts until then? It's in numerous threads spamming this shit.
>>5064747I thought Russians loved cats?
>>5064730if I had to choice I wouldn't have castrated by 3rd cathe's as close to the perfect cat as you can get lil nigga deserved to procreate
>>5064773Russians are genetically incapable of love.
>>5064784How's Australia anyways?
>>5064730Cats dont get health issues from neutering like dogsAll they do is piss all over and desperately try to escape if they smell pussy if you dont and act like normal cats if you doShelters are overflowing. Species are being driven to extinction by roaming and feral cats. Fix your fucking cat. It’s dumber than a chihuahua and can’t comprehend if it has or hasn’t nuts anyways. Cats are as aware of their nuts as you are of the pineal gland the glowies forcibly calcified with pointless water fluoridation ("da black kids aint brushin they teeth, drink this whitey") to prevent you from seeing high EMF based beings like the anunnaki. t. Long term cat owner. I have had 30 cats and currently have six.
>>5064821>I have had 30 cats and currently have six.This you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTgxWlKeEYo
>5064821Falseflagging dogfucker continuing his several weeks-long melty with a new persona
>>5064821>Cats dont get health issues from neuteringUh huh...>Neutered cats are more prone to weight gain and obesity.>Neutering cats can lead to behavioral changes like increased aggression>Male cats, in particular, tend to become less focused on mating-related behaviors and may display reduced interest in engaging in play.>Neutering cats can lead to hormonal imbalances that have serious consequences for their long-term health. >Additionally, the decrease in sex hormones can also affect the cat’s energy levels and overall activity, potentially leading to a more sedentary lifestyle.>The long-term consequences of hormonal imbalances due to neutering can manifest in various health issues, such as an increased susceptibility to urinary tract infections and a higher risk of developing diabetes. >hormonal imbalances can also impact the cat’s musculoskeletal health, potentially leading to a higher incidence of joint problems and musculoskeletal disorders.>Neutered cats are more prone to urinary tract disorders due to hormonal changes that affect the pH balance of their urine. This can lead to conditions such as feline lower urinary tract disease (FLUTD), which can cause discomfort and pain for the cat. >Neutering can increase the risk of certain cancers in cats, including mammary cancer and prostate cancer.>Neutering cats can lead to negative psychological effects, such as increased anxiety and stress.>Neutering can alter the bond between cats and their owners.>Cats may display behavioral changes towards humans after neutering.
>>5064852To recap, neutering:>can make cats more aggressive>can make your cat hate you>increases risk of prostate and mammarian cancer>can cause urinary tract infections>can make them less playful and energetic>causes hormonal imbalances which can affect their long term health>decreases cat bone density and can help cats develop osteoporosis and arthritis>can cause cats to develop diabetesGood luck!Hope you can afford frequent vet visits.
>>5064852None of this is shit is health issues and most of it is made up and AI generated. Whatever isn't made up, is a skill issue caused by lazy ownership and bad diets.Neutered cats usually live 16-20 years without issues. Intact cats mark indoors, are desperate for sex, and can't be trained out of it because they are too stupid and instinct driven. Neutered cats make great pets.Unfixed cats inspired centuries of cope.Also try owning a wild fox. That's the intact cat experience.
>>5064855>can make cats more aggressiveIt does the opposite.https://www.crossroadsvh.com/site/blog/2022/06/30/cat-neuterhttps://www.hpanimalhospital.com/services/cats/spay-neuter>can make your cat hate youNo, it does not.>increases risk of prostate and mammarian[sic] cancerFor #1 there is no statistically significant effect that can not be explained with cats that live longer being more likely to develop cancer regardless. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9201985/>Prostatic disorders in cats are exceedingly rare>Definitive risk factors have not been identified due to the sparse number of reports and lack of epidemiologic dataThe data ONLY says this happens to... DOGS. Your information is generated by an AI that has no comprehension of what it reads. It probably sourced the same study I did and pulled the canine prostate cancer data to meet your request "tell me why neutering cats is bad"For #2, this is outright false. Spaying reduces mammary cancer rates.>One study indicated that cats spayed prior to 6 months of age have only a 9% percent risk of developing mammary tumors, whereas the risk increases to 14% in cats spayed between seven and 12 months.YOUR POSTS ARE AI GENERATED GARBAGE
I feel like the ideal solution would be to just get rid of cats
>>We also take cash and credit cards and offer easy payment plans with low interest!Is this usual in the US of A?
>>5064878Vets are expensive in non-shithole countries.>>5064860cope. I have friends with neutered cats and they're constantly going to the vet. The other day a friend had to take her cat to get its stomach pumped cause the idiot drank loads of wine.Castrated cats have no instincts, they can't discern between what's poison and what isn't. They just eat/slurp up everything they can reach. The poor guy probably wanted to commit suicide.
>>5064860>The first is that there is a pretty consistently higher cancer risk in neutered cats compared with intact cats. This ranges from about 25-50% higher for most cancer types, though there are some for which there is no apparent difference in risk (fibrosarcomas for males and adenomas/adenocarcinomas for females).https://skeptvet.com/2016/05/neutering-and-cancer-risk-in-cats/citing this research: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/296329400_Swiss_Feline_Cancer_Registry_1965-2008_The_Influence_of_Sex_Breed_and_Age_on_Tumour_Types_and_Tumour_Locations>The present study is based on the Swiss Feline Cancer Registry that comprises 51,322 feline patient records, compiled between 1965 and 2008. In these records, 18,375 tumours were reported. The study analyses the influence of sex, neutering status, breed, time and age on the development of the most common tumour types and on their locations, using a multiple logistic regression model.
>>5064881comical larp
>>5064730I cannot even begin to imagine how your home smells.
>>5064882Longer lived animals get more cancer? No way. Its almost like intact cats are less likely to reach senescence.
>>5064887It smells clean. My cat has litterboxes (rule of thumb: cats+1 litterboxes) I clean after every use, why would it piss anywhere else?Anyone saying "the cat will piss everywhere!" are telling on themselves. I'm sure if I left dirty underwear or sweaty clothes laying on the ground my cat would smell my urea/urine on them and think it's ok to piss there. Luckily I'm not a slob and I keep my home clean and my clothes go into a hamper (hanging one, because I don't want the cat to think it's a litterbox).Castrated cats can also piss in places other than the litterbox, especially when you live in a dirty and messy home.
>>5064745smelling cat shit and piss everyday would give me mental illness for sure
>>5064881>Vets are expensive in non-shithole countries.?Do you not insure your pets? Most people have cars for less time than they have a dog or cat and I'm sure that even if the state didn't force it, people would likely insure their vehicles regardless so I find it absolutely coocoo bananas that anyone would forgo insuring a pet that can live the better part of a quarter century.It's not even expensive. To put it into terms a dumb white bitch like you can understand, it's less than the cost of two lattes per month and many insurers give discounts if you pay yearly. That makes it some shit like $50/yr to insure Meowlie Cyrus or whatever basic bitch shit you named your retarded furball. That's all it costs. Insure your cat, retard.>I love my kitty-witty!>but not enough to spend $50/yr, wtf
>>5064918lmao imagine shilling pet insurance for free
>>5064730I think only tom cats will really get problems if you neuter them.My semi-ferals are all fixed, and the females and males did great. Then we got a big tom cat fixed and he has been having all kinds of trouble. Timid, weird behavior overall. I think he has some issues from before getting fixed, but I don't think getting fixed helped him any, and he still wanted to fight for a long time, but he doesn't have the juice for it anymore, so he just gets beat all to fuck and has massive adrenaline dumps that leave him depressed and shaken.
>>5064918>Do you not insure your pets?Well, you see, if you don't castrate your cat and mess up its health, you don't need to take it to the vet all the time.>a dumb white bitchIronic, because it is women who want to castrate animals.>>5064933>Then we got a big tom cat fixed and he has been having all kinds of trouble. Timid, weird behavior overall.Yup. Vets will tell you a cat doesn't know it has balls and it won't miss them, but of course they know something is wrong/different.
>>5064730I did, as well as for the vaxxing. Kitty got 19 years without health issues besides a scratched eye once. 9/10 would fall for it again.
>>5064852Did you know that cheap vets don't really observe if the cat is well under but still breathing properly during the operation? Low oxygen brain damage or trauma from somewhat waking up during the procedure causes most of the things you wrote. Won't happen with a good vet that has clients that give enough of a fuck about their pets to pay for a good product.Choose the cheapest option available get the shittiest result available, easy as that.
>>5064977Or just avoid it altogether?
>mutilate your cat>it starts acting weird>*pikachu face*
>>5065124>your cat acting like an anxious neurotic is totally normal!>it's super cute ahahahaha>LOOK AT THAT FUCKED UP CAT ISN'T IT FUNNY?!Castrating cats is animal abuse. Full stop.
>>5064730Yes, house cats are so utterly dysgenic bred they need to be castrated to fuction as pets.
>>5065133>Yes, Americans are so utterly dysgenic bred they need to be circumcised to fuction as humans.:^)
>>5065134>Always thinking about American cockTypical
>>5064745I saved more by not getting a cat and not needing therapy, lmao. Take your meds, schizo.
>>5065142>always thinking about cat ballsStandard>>5065145>t. future mass shooter
>>5064889Wow anon you debunked that published scientific article, the researchers forgot to control for age and nobody noticed
but i have a male and a female cat and dont want kittens what do I do OPtheyre siblings too
>>5065180Tough choice. I guess you have to neuter one of them, preferably the one that will be least affected by it. If you spay the female, the male will probably still try to mate with her. If you castrate the male then the female will be in heat once per year but the male won't know what to do.I guess you're going to have kittens. But don't worry, after the kittens reach 6mo or so the mother will be sick of them and will want them out anyway. Just find them good families.
>>5064970Same, ours has been perfectly healthy for over 15 years but just recently we found out she's dying
>>5064881How old are those cats?
>>5064882>Differences, although often small, in sex and neutering status were observed in most analyses. The study itself acknowledges how small this differences (specifically about tumors) are and nothing there defends any of your other claims.The one actual risk is obesity which you can counter with proper diet and helping your cat being active and motivated (just play with them, retard).
>>50656381-2 years.>>5065685>how small this differencesRoll the dice then. If you lose you'll have to pay thousands of dollars or put down your cat. I mean, it's just a cat, right? Its life is cheap and worth the gamble. <- your thought process.>The one actual risk is obesity which you can counter with proper diet The other risk is UTRS. Urinary tract can be blocked and that can be fatal for the cat unless caught and treated in time (more $$$).You also have to cat-proof your house, because your cat will tear into and eat anything it thinks it might be food, on account of constantly being hungry.Faggots like you probably think fat cats are cute. You sick fuck. But in case you don't, share your feeding schedule, amounts and what is a "proper diet".Just so readers can be informed as to what it takes to raise a mutilated cat. For my intact cat I just have the wet and dry food bowls full all the time and he decides how much he needs to eat. When he gets treats (even things like salmon and meat) he eats a few bites and then has enough. Give treats to a castrated cat and it will eat treats until it pukes and then it will eat them again. THEY LITERALLY CAN'T CONTROL THEMSELVES. According to you this is completely normal, desireable in fact.
All intact cats mark. All intact cats will escape. All intact cats will breed. This has never been proven false without living in a cage. And intact cats are ones my 20x scope does not identify as pets. Sorry but they are vermin same as stray pitbulls, rabbits, and rats. Fix your cat.
>>5065984Weird how only you and retarded cat hoarders have these problems. Let me guess, you don’t smell a thing?
>>5065984>You also have to cat-proof your house, because your cat will tear into and eat anything it thinks it might be food, on account of constantly being hungry.you are retarded.we have a male cat who came to us neutered and he is extremely polite/well mannered. my mom also bred cats when i was younger and we had a lot of them both spayed/neutered and not. 0 of the neutered/spayed ones were voraciously ripping into every bag of food. several of the unneutered ones did spray/mark in the house though.
>>5065986>Let me guess, you don’t smell a thing?He pisses in his litterboxes, because cats like to bury their waste. Why would he piss anywhere else?
>>5064730This is why pet owners are subhumans.Carve out flesh and tissue for your own enjoyment from a living veing. Cuddle with a fucking pillow. As bad as circumcizers.
>>5065985>SorryDon't be sorry for cleaning up other people's messes.
>>5066100>magic box of pebbles perfectly absorbs all smells left by an animal that roams around the entire houselmao do you think when you cook food that the smell is limited to just the kitchen too?
Why haven't they invented vasectomy for pets? Why are we still snipping balls?
>>5067269because that wont stop their sex drive which causes markings and other behavior
Cats are such shit pets goddamn. They really aren't domesticated at all. Cat owners are fucking retards.
>>5067347Domestication could erase their survival instincts and 30% of their brain, but not their strong desire to pee on everything or the mind altering parasite that makes cat owners think the pee actually smells pleasant
>>5064730This only applies to indoor cats.If your cat is an outdoor cat, then whatever negative side effects are caused by castrating him are absolutely dwarfed by the suffering and havoc you'd impose upon the local ecosystem and his illegitimate offspring by not getting him castrated.Like castrating your cat is kinda fucked up, but not castrating him and letting him outside is machiavellian genocidal monster tier.
>>5068060It doesn’t apply to any cats. OP made it up. And cats dont belong outside. They are dumber than chihuahuas and dont give a shit. If large dogs that are 8-12x smarter are fine indoors with walks, cats are fine indoors. Castration doesnt stop them from killing birds and spreading toxo btw. I hope when your cat gets eaten you at least respect the dog that ate it instead of seething about cats low spot on the food chain
>>5067347>>5067356take the knots out of your neovaginas
>>5068072>If large dogs that are 8-12x smarter are fine indoors with walks>are fine indoorsyou should not own a dog>I hope when your cat gets eaten you at least respect the dogI'd tell you to muzzle your dog, but then again, you shouldn't own one
>>5068120it's a samefagging schizo
>>5068121>cat kills random birds: yass queen slay!>dog removes pest: HOW DARE YOU! MUZZLE YOUR DOG!Keep your pest contained if you don’t want it treated like a pest.
>catfags think cats should be free and dogs should be chained, muzzled, and beaten for naturally eating cats as all canines do, and then cry that responsible pet ownership is animal abuse when people who like the birds cats eat say cats should be kept under controland all problems are solved by containing the catthe cat freak then says their cat somehow performs a service, but all data shows they make mice and rats more common by killing their competition…
>>5064730My cat still has his testicles>no spraying>no aggression>no screaming to mate
>>5068126you should muzzle your mutt for other people's sake first and foremost, you dumb cunt
>>5068625>Abuse your dog so my roaming pest doesn't get eatenDogs don't need muzzled.You need to understand this. Cats are equal to rabbits nad rats.Cats are pests and prey. They are literal vermin. They breed like rabbits and only degrade the environment they live in. A dog that kills cats on its owners land is a good dog doing what it's meant to.>but it's my pet!A lot of people keep rats and rabbits as pets but only catfags are stupid enough to think their roaming pest animal is entitled to special consideration. If I ever have a problem with catfags over my dog I'm just going to buy a .25 cal break barrel air rifle and start shooting them in the lower lung/gut so they run off and die somewhere else. Your entitlement is absurd. Cats are pests, keep them off peoples fucking lawns. This is the same rule dog owners have to follow around livestock.
>>5064918>$50/yr,mine is £30 per month
>>5070706You can see it in the cat's eyes. He can tell there is something not mentally right with the exceptional individual photographing him for a dopamine rush of updoots coupled with posting her(?) demented castration fetish. Wherever that cat is, I hope he gets to a safe and loving home that cares for his well being and doesn't mutilate his genitals.
>>5070706Holy basedIm gonna go link her some live traps and tell her about using cannabis to brainwash ex-ferals
>>5070935DUDE WEED LMAOFucking hang yourself.
>>5070950Cannabis has legitimate veterinary uses but humans shouldn’t take itI’ve used it to brainwash a pitbull, brainwash a few cats, and manage feline osteoarthritis.
>>5064773Russian here, yes we generally love cats.
>>5064731>>5064732He's right. Op is written by shills organically. The habits of language models are typically too cliche and obvious, and are only good for short bump/filler.
>>5064730I have 2 male cats and 1 female cat and I am from a poor EE country with trad family. We decided not to castrate the cats and as a result I have to deal with the bullshit daily by separating the cats in separate room at different time frames and feed them separately in separate rooms. The female cat also needs to be near me 24/7 and she even comes with me to the bathroom.Its a lot of work, but the cats are happy. The male cats fight with each other when they meet but this is the only real downside and a human usually breaks the fights.
>>5064747Why bring politics to pets boards lol
>>5064918>I'm sure that even if the state didn't force it, people would likely insure their vehiclesHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I can't with this website dude
>>5065124>>5065125>cat instinctively chews on things to keep its teeth sharp>Reddit: MY CAT IS SO HECCKIN' QUIRKY LOOK AT THIS CHUNGUS>4chan: HE'S GONE INSANE CUS YOU CUT OFF HIS BALLS YOU PSYCHOPATHI hate the internet.
>>5065134Being circumcised is why Americans are so fucked in the head thoughever
>>5065196>endorsing cat breedingKill yourself
Cats are slave animals and enjoy being castrated. Did you know homosexual penetration has been documented in feral cat colonies? They crave masters. Dogs are apex predators and merely tolerate our delusions of grandeur. A dog owns its humanA human owns its catCastrate cats and keep them inside. They prefer it. The happiest cats I know are denutted and kept safe in their little safe space. As a prey animal larping as a predator, it is their version of heaven.
>>5068072>Castration doesnt stop them from killing birds and spreading toxo btw.It DOES mean they out-compete the cats who also spend energy trying to breed for survival, which is the point.
>>5068128>dogs should be chained, muzzled, and beatenYes because this is the only language they truly understand
>>5068632>Your entitlement is absurd>Dogs don't need muzzledYou tellem pittmommy!
>>5074073>>5074076A dog fenced in its own yard had every right to deal with cats. Cats are pests. Vermin. An invasive species. Will you chain and muzzle your cat so it doesn’t harm someone’s outdoor rat? Since you don’t seem concerned with keeping it fenced perhaps you should. A dog is free. A cat obeys. Dogs hunt. Cats take the scraps. It’s the natural order as sure as humans eating cows and chickens.
Why do dogtards always try to talk like Sephiroth?
>>5074095Because catfags started first so we started speaking your language, toxo
>>5064730we took our dog to a new vet for the yearly physical and rabies shots. the first thing they did, right off the bat, was ask "so you want the shots, the exam, the blood test, the urine sample, the this, the that, the blah blah blah? right? that will be 600 dollars" and we were like "um, no just the shots and a physical exam" and they got annoyed. then they took our dog away to do the blood sample and wouldn't let us be in the room, which was a major red flag for usalmost all vet offices are only there to steal your money
>>5074098>no uSwing and a miss
>>5074108I tried putting it normally once and catfags just said something about dog dick and then started talking about which breeds they think are the hottest. Sephiroth talk got through to you. It works!
>>5074110All i gathered is you enjoy pinble knot like a good pittmommy. Be sure to offer up another toddler for play/snack time! Don't want Mrs. Sparkles to take your arm after all
>>5074113Observe, literally the moment I stop dictating to you worms like the one winged angel bestiality fantasies once more erupt from your twisted, shriveled lips. You must learn through pain. Your cat shall be trapped within the wire cage and offered up at the altars of lucky golden dragon 24 hour chinese takeout. Be forewarned, vermin. The time of feline lies has come to an end. Gone are the myths of the cat’s intelligence and prowess. Knowledge of toxoplasmosis spreads further by the minute. Now the dog reigns supreme. You will bow to your canine gods or perish, host.
>>5064918I am not even an avid driver, but I can guarantee you that most people would rather not deal with the state at all. Same goes for pets : my connection with the pet is 2 sided - the pet and me. There is no 3rd side.
>>5074068If this was /b/ I would understand the troll / autism post but come on...
>>5074063People online these days are crazy. Redditors will feed their cats x4 the normal to make them big Chunguses and 4channers are wanna be Chinese animal torture hobbyists. I cannot agree with more than 10-20% of the opinions of either side. I did not even came here to argue, but reading some of the posts makes me want to argue.
>>5064965>Vets will tell you a cat doesn't know it has balls and it won't miss them, but of course they know something is wrong/different.Complete strawman. I have never even heard of a vet saying anything like this. Take your meds, schizo.>>5074553You too. Take your meds. Now. You're creating some weird leaps there, retard.>>5064918There are a shit ton of uninsured drivers out there in the US, yes, even in the states that require it (which is all but like... two). It's something like 15% nationwide for legal drivers (and rising), and of course 100% for illegal drivers.
>>5074560What leaps am I making? All I said was that there is no 3rd party in my connection to my pets. There is no council or state that agrees if I can pet my cat or something. If I do not feed it or mistreat it, the cat will leave. The 2 sides have their freedoms and terms and services. A cat that is aggressive will drive me away and a human that is aggressive will drive the cat away. We do not need the government or insurance companies in our connection.
>>5064730ngl I felt bad for letting my family castrate our cat. it just felt wrong to me. I would have been against it but one day I got home and my mom was like "he was castrated today :)" and at that point there was no use in saying or doing anything, but I felt guilty nonetheless.
Cats with their sex organs are vermin. The entire species was a failure of domestication like foxes before spay and neuter. No function. No benefit. Only piss, and hordes. Spay and neuter is why you can be a "cat person" without being an occultist or a delusional feral-feeder who thinks they are too smart, rather than too dumb, to be domesticated. The entire mouser myth originates from people trying to find an excuse to keep them alive because they’re cute. Cats are incapable of eliminating rodent infestations. They can only make pests be more sneaky.
>>5074068This isn’t trolling lmaoCats unironically DO enjoy being castrated. They have basically no mind so fewer unfulfilled urges is better for them. They’re not like, dogs. They can’t redirect energy and better themselves. There are no health benefits beyond intact cays being compatible with free feeding (useless and retarded). They just piss, yowl, and fuck. That’s it.And dogs really do own their humans. A cat will slot into its role. A dog will throw a fit if they don’t get what they want. Cats are easy to drug. Nothing works on dogs 100%.
