>be me, home for the holidays.>brother takes home a stray kitten his coworkers caught. No one else wanted it.>takes another one home the following day because my mom liked to look of a different cat in the litter.>cat 1 is male and cat 2 is female. Both are five months old.>at first, the male cat was doing well. It liked to climb and explore, it didn’t hiss, the vet even said it was the better of the two.>his sister came in and hissed at everyone. Rarely left the cat carrier. Won’t leave without the male checking the environment first. >Now the male is hissing at us too and guarding the female.>they were living in a bathroom and being free fed when I got here.>we decided to try letting them inside an enclosed patio to socialize.>they liked jumping on tables and fresh air, but hated us.>mom keeps buying cat toys thinking this will help.>she attempts to talk them back into going in a cat carrier and coming inside.>the female “agrees” to this after it’s cornered.>the male is now in the a corner of the wooden ceiling. I’ve been trying to convince my family that they can’t keep free feeding and locking them away if they want to socialize the cats to humans. You can’t win them over with kindness. They don’t know you’re being kind by saving them from winter. They don’t know you gave them food. They won’t eat in front of humans until they have to. I even suggested getting a cat pen to keep them in. They got a tarp and said “get inventive”. I ordered a cheep kitten pen.How do I get through to them that the cats need to learn to obey the humans feeding them?Further, any suggestions on how to domesticate these two little maniacs?
>>5073630the option ANY professional trainer will recommend if not demand: separate the cats to socialize them individually and be ready to get rid of onecats are pretty dumb (basically preprogrammed animals) and littermate syndrome like this can be permanent.
>>5073644Better to ask on Reddit than listen to retards like this on 4chan
>>5073644Correct. Separate ASAP to break the nascent bond. Socialize individually and extensively. Both cats need to be contained in separate rooms and undergo extensive trust building exercises with humans. Once each cat will approach humans of their own volition they can be reintroduced. Allowing cats to be independent is bad pet ownership. Tame them like you are meant to so you don’t end up with a nightmarish animal that has to be routinely abandoned outside like so many cat owners do (due to "who cares its a cat" attitudes like your families).
seperate them for a bit longer each day and show them that you are more fun + resourceful than the other kitty.lots of food, toys, warmth, etc. do not let them have access to those without your presence or alone with each other.
>>5073652Somehow I actually get more human advice here. I think you can actually make a Reddit post asking if a blue shirt looks better and the comments will tell you to off ourself or join their only fans.>>5073644I’ll see if they go for it. There seems to be some academic debate over whether or not littermate syndrome exist in cats, so there might be some push back.
sounds like a while nightmare for a couple worthless cats desu
>>5073630You need to intervene bro
>>5073630All I can say is that you still have good chances with getting them domesticated if they are at 5 months. My father has an adult which used to be domestic before going feral for 4-5 years and then got captured by a rescue which checked his tag but the original owners couldn't take him back. He's a Norwegian Forrest and big one at that. He didn't like socialization at all and was very reactive to physical contact, with the best you could do was rely on letting him out and then have him come back in the evening after keepong him indoors after a few months. My father was pretty fucking bad for him as he was a drunk who didn't give a fuck about giving animals space and as a result he got swiped and bit a lot, but he always got pissy with me because the cat grew to like me. All I did was give the lil' fucker space, be quiet and when he approached me to remain calm until overtime he started to get in my face or headbutt which I would then slowly and carefully scritch his head. This was always risky as if I fussed somewhere he wasn't used to he would suddenly without warning bite, but over time I was able to get him to allow me to fuss the sides of his neck near the chin and the lower back of the neck. Anywhere else and he would bite and run off. If he sat on my lap or fell asleep I would wait until he got up to not spook him and to encourage the association of comfort with me. Before long he was kneading my shirts to bits with his big ass claws. We got him when he was 6 and now he is 19 and social to everyone, including my drunk father. You can fuss him just about every where bar belly and he copes incredibly well with two 3 year old hyper dogs that every now and again try to bother him.I think even if your parents are not helping you can still provide a behavioral change personally and make it work. It will take years if they are in a household where everybody is not on board, but it can work.
>>5073630>CatsDrown em
>>5073630Why fostering destructive pests?
