>Paleontology in the 80s: Dinosaurs were warm blooded, fast, large, cool, and could do stuff like balance on one leg to avoid an enemy's counter attack.>Paleontology now: Anything that portrays feathered fat dinosaurinos as more threatening than a poodle is muh awesombro fantasy.
>>5080929Too many people were whacking off to theropods so we had to make them less appealing. Sorry. Believe it or not, the feathers resulted in focus groups getting fewer erections. t. High Councilman Longrich of the international paleontology conspiracy
>>5080929Kids got into dinosaurs growing up, wanted to learn more about them, and then learned more about them. You're just a poser.
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>>5080929The main issue is that modern paleoart has this weird pastel, tumblr-esque sheen on it, while the older stuff is grittier looking.
>>5081073In the future this might become every kid's favorite because for all we know every other dinosaur is just brown.
>>5080929If any of you seriously in 2025 fucking believe that every dinosaur was feathered you and your famikies gene pool shouldnt be allowed to vote. T-rex has been proven to have not been feathered and many of the pop dinosaurs we all know were not feathered as for some dinos feathers were chosen against in the game of life, leaving them scaled.
>>5080931>the feathers resulted in focus groups getting fewer erections.Whew this new propaganda certainly isn't working on me then, cause god damn
>>5080931If it’s actually longrich: Waiting for you to get kicked out of your most recent teaching job for being an intolerable prick. Good job with nano tho, you pompous ass.
>>5080929>OP confuses paleontology with paleomedia for the gorillionth time
>>5081085>T-rex
>>5080929originally: scientists doing sciencenow: trannies and other pedophiles doing politics
>>5081073The bottom example especially is bizarre.>stripes on tail for camouflage in grass and amongst the herdOkay, that makes sense.>BRIGHT COLORES TO ATTRACT MATE!One of these is not like the other.
>>5080929This retarded discourse is a 1:1 aping of fandom discourse about slop like star wars becoming "woke". Applying it to paleomedia is perfect because paleontology is a scientific field and the media around it typically changes with new evidence. It really lays bare the central grievance in all the whiny culture war media bullshit, that you want to be a baby again and you're mad that you'll never be as happy or fulfilled as you were when you were eight. In 20 years if they discovered that tyrannosaurus was actually cold blooded and scaly the whole time, there will be miserable obese FAGGOTS on this very board whining that jews took the feathers away.
>>5080929We know what they looked like - It’s like this, OP.
>>5080929The problem is none of that was ever true. Most of the ideas of the dinosaur renaissance were always based on pure speculation and wishful thinking with absolutely no paleontological evidence to back them. The warm-blooded thing for example has become something of a bizarre anachronism at this point. Why anyone ever believe this about dinosaurs is pretty unclear. But there's absolutely no good evidence to back it. Every time it's been tested it's failed. Nothing in the paleontological record even mildly suggests that dinosaurs might be warm-blooded.
>>5081967In the modern age they're the same thing. Apparently you've never seen a real paleontologist in the last 20 years speak. They're absolutely retarded. They make Bob Bakker look like a genius.
>>5082426That's because its the same playbook from the same CIA agents. It's multi-spectrum enshitification to serve capitalist interests and let's be honest at this point the demiurge. They're just straight up doing devil worship.
>>5082510Your schizophrenia is worsening. Does this mean you’re going to spam weird porn again?Asking for the FBI
>>5082513>Does this mean you’re going to spam weird porn again?Sorry, I'm not a paleo"artist".
>>5080929The accuracy thing is beside the point. The real point of dinosaurs having presence in culture is its a shit test to filter out autistic and weird people. Of you have a stake in the argument, as a creationist, scale-ist, feathers, whatever, you automatically lose because there you are putting on like a science quack rather than talking about something socially relevant.The purpose of edutainment, dinosaurs, space shuttles, bill nye, all that bugman shit is a social filter, just like sportsReally you should not care about dinosaurs, space, etc it is a social misstep. I have no idea what dinosaurs looked like and dont care to.Paleontology is a really decadent pointless field and it would be more responsible to go into investment banking or law. I mean imagine explain to people you dig up shit for kids museums. Thats like 40 year old virign shit.Guys, dinosaurs are bad
>>5082534This is what tindr and exposure to basketball americans has done to zoomers brains.
>>5082534>knowing shit is fucking GAY i just keep up with movies and know pornstars namesand americans wonder why china is literally buying their countryyour people are going extinct and the worthy are becoming chinese. beijing is already cleaning up the dog eaters and muslims in preparation.
>>5082509>implying based Bob Bakker isn’t a geniuslol
>>5080931>>5081073>>5080944>>5082549>>5082426OP here, I think people here misunderstood what I was trying to convey. The reason I don't like modern paleoart is because how tame the dinosaurs look. I just miss the Bakker-style dinosaurs. Bakker is the best example of what I'm talking about. He always made it a point to make dinosaurs look active and dynamic. Like take the OP pic for example. It's a depiction of a T. rex rearing up and standing on one leg to dodge a prey's attack. Or his iconic running deinonychus drawing.To put into perspectivw what I'm talking about, if they discovered deinonychus today, it's not the feathers I'd be mad about. It's about how 90% of the paleoart would depict it doing something lame and "serene" like drinking water or rolling around on its belly or something like that. More dynamic portrayals would get comments about it being an "awesomebro fantasy"
>/pol/tard palentology retards on /an/: gay furries are ruining paleontology by making dinosaurs lame!>gay furries dinosaur drawings: crocodilian terror birds chasing down fresh toddler meat>/pol/tard palentology retards on /an/: gay furries are ruining paleontology by making dinosaurs serve death! carnism! BLOODMOUTHS! MOLOCH! APEP! ANTI-CAT FED JEW *orderlies bust in* HELP IM BEING ATTACKED BY CIA NIGGERS
>>5082561>Like take the OP pic for exampleBakker didn't make that pose. This is the second time I've told you.
>>5082561Too many fucking redditor soifags
>>5082581schizophrenia
>>5082561>>5082642Because it's about truth not your entertainment, you media childs.
>>5082691"Realistic paleoart" is entertainment. It's not truth either, nobody knows what these animals looked like and never will.
I genuinely hope anti-feather fags and paleotrannies kill each other.
>>5080929>Why did paleontology get taken over by nerds and pansies?Furries happened.
Funfact: the first "evidence" of feathers on non-avian dinosaurs came from the USSR, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avimimus#Discovery_and_speciesalmost ALL "evidence" of feathered non-avian dinosaurs come from the PRC.
>>5083364>The great plan for the new world order to make a western concept like "dinosaurs" look as lame as possible
>>5082508Are you posting a throwback to the 90s?
>>5083364Where it comes from is irrelevant.Why? Because old fossils hold up under modern scrutiny. These days we're able to investigate for pigment traces in preserved feathers and similar integument. This is something pretty new, and isn't something that you'd predict would be possible back in the past. But, old feathered fossils from China are found to have these pigment traces in them. So either the Chinese predicted that we'd be able to find these pigment traces decades later and painted them on with microscopic brushes, or the fossils are authentic.
>>5080929what the fuck?
>>5082422A creature with a generally dull body for camouflage but specific brightly colored spots to attract a mate?Unheard of
>>5084210The ONLY thing I remember about the Olympics was her
Not really sure why transpohobes and nazis think liking dinosaurs is a sign of autism. I am trans (mtf) and have autism but liking dinosaurs has nothing to do with having autism. Transphobia can come in all shapes and sizes. Also, science says dinosaurs had feathers.
>>5082561Most paleoartists now are told that dinosaurs are meant to be portrayed like real animals, and that real animals are being boring 90% of the time. And think that means that dinosaurs should be portrayed as being boring or else they're not being portrayed as animals. And then forget that they can make realistic behaviour that is also cool, and that animals can look threatening and aggressive (there's also the over correction of the blood thirsty monster dinosaur imaginary)
>>5086733i don't know what you're talking about chief. i can stand on one leg. i see animals standing on one leg all the time. there are birds swinging on branches and doing acrobatics for fun outside my window. what the fuck are you talking about, you asshole?
>>5081073Is there any evidence at all for thst theorized pigmentation?
>>5087101As much evidence as there is that they had eyes
>>5084381In your own example it's something that is only visible when the feathers are in the upright position, normally they'd be out of view.
>>5086726Good bait, actually made me cringe
>>5080929Because nu-males infantilizing them as "wholesome chungus lgbt birbs" became a trend instead of portraying them as fierce reptiles.
>>5080929the fuck are you talking about, 80's and 90's was when T. Rex was a slow dumb blind scavengerit's modern day paleontology that rehabilitated him modern day paleontology is also the one who found out how giant pterosaurs could actually fly, 80's paleontology said that they larger ones couldn't fly
>>5087135>buh brightly colored displays are UNHEARD of, they'd make you easy prey!It's a Bowerbird you numbskullLook up Ocillated Turkey males tooStart coping. Keep coping.
>>5080929The "warm blooded mammal-dino" concept popularized by Bakker and Paul was always met with some disagreement, even back then. Many scientists believed that a mesothermic metabolism for dinos, in-between monitor lizards and birds, made more sense
>>5087206Post a multi-ton animal with those flashy colors. Oh wait they don't exist
>>5087310"Doesn't matter, had sex", is the running theme of nature.
>>5080929FUCK gen x, FUCK millenials, FUCK zoomers and FUCK sci*nce (aka basedence). Back in the 60s dinosaurs actually roamed the earth and ran 150km/h and ate battle tanks.
>>5086735Elephants can stand on one leg. How often do you see them do it?If I walked into the Africa section of a natural history museum and they had an elephant display balancing on one leg like a circus animal, that'd be kinda weird and out of place.
>>5087341>Elephants can stand on one leg.ai lied to you
>>5087357
>>5087363>a baby>an ai imagetwo strikes
>>5087363If you want proof, just ask google for an academic citation of an elephant standing on one leg.no results. Thousands of citations for 2 legs. No citations for one.
>>5087366>>5087370What is it about paleo threads that attracts schizos?
>>5087394I think people who can't tell when something isn't AI are more retarded than those who can't tell when something is
>>5082561>>5080929Bakker was talking about dinosaurs being warm blooded and likely feathered since the 1980s. I'm not sure what the point is here if it's meant to be mocking shrinkwrapsois or featherchads
>>5081085But Yutyrannus, Velociraptor, and Deinonychys were all feathered? Shrinkwraptrannies are delusional on the same level as hollow earth theorists
>>5087456yeah because they were not closely related to T. rex
>>5087394>thinks that proves it's not ai>it's still a babyare you stupid?
>>5087554It doesn't matter if it's a baby.>Elephants can stand on one leg.Is undeniably true. You can find photos of this dated back to the 80's at least.The point is that you rarely see them do it, even if it's possible, so a museum shouldn't pose their elephant display on one leg.>>5086735"Dinosaurs must have had the ability to stand on one leg" is not an argument for displaying a dinosaur standing on one leg.Do you get it now?
>>5087693Neither animal is capable of standing on one leg though
>>5080929>Dinosaurs were warm blooded, fastWe've known dinos were cold blooded and slow since the 19th century.
>>5083475USAID used tax payer money to bribe Pizzahut into getting rid of sit down restaraunts, I just assume the secret society times are all gay and petty.
>>5080929Tenderqueers played with dinosaur toys as kids. It's also a relatively boring field with very few specimens and discoveries require access to tightly guarded fossils so alphabet people are promoted heavily as influencers.
>>5087706Disproven even by the 60s
saying that dinosaurs didn't have feathers is a major chudcel pissbaby redflag. it's like saying covid vaccines aren't effective, or that office furnishing fires couldn't have collapsed the wtc towers at free fall speed into their own footprint. science deniers are retarded
>>5088232Honestly i blame the distrust of dinosaurs having feathers on the retards that claimed all dinosaurs had them and used it to own the hecking JP fans
>>5088232Covid vaccines aren't effective and MRNA was known to cause health issues since the 90s and was only greenlit because Trump in his infinite wisdom authorized pharmaceutical companies to play with your health and then those same vaccines were later weaponized by Biden voters, but many dinosaurs did have feathers whether or not chudcels like it or not. >>5088242Honestly this. The moment some of the much heckin science retards heard "Many dinosaurs had feathers" they rushed to try and shit on JP fans despite themselves not knowing what the actual conclusions were that many above a certain size did not have feathers even if the consensus was that some above a certain size in certain climates did, but not all, with most feathered species being smaller. I believe there is also an element of the feather deniers potentially being creationists who can't or don't want to accept the bird-dinosaur link if they aren't just purely of the "This makes my favorite [extremely inaccurate portrayal of a dinosaur from before the 60s-80s depending on pop culture portrayal accuracy] look less intimidating (somehow)" camp.
>>5088306shitting on JP isn't very hard>velociraptor>a 6 foot tall dinosaur>dilophosaurus>a 6 foot tall dinosaur>with venom>and a frill>Biologists>too stupid to understand parthenogenesis>"Are you suggesting females will reproduce?">"life.. uh...finds a way.">don't move!>they can't see you if you don't move!it's a remarkably stupid plot
>>5088323It's fun if you turn off your brain, but yeah
>>5088324yepand I understand the moral of the story was science makes mistakesbut the mistakes didn't have to be so incredibly dumb to make his point.
>>5088325That's Hollywood for you
>>5088360the worst of those were straight out of the book
>>5087324Can't have sex if you die.You have no examples. "Bright flashy colors" and "camouflage colors" at the same time are a contradiction. You don't even understand WHY bright flashy colors are a thing. It's not to simply "attract mates", there are thousands of ways to do that. Are boobs brightly colored? Are dicks? No, they are not. We find them attractive anyway. The actual reason for "bright flashy colors" is they are honest signals, they show that you are fit and can outrun predators. Basically saying "I do not need camouflage".Featherfag paleoartists deserve to be beaten to death. There is nothing wrong with "drab" dinosaurs, there's no evidence for absurd bright colors in conjunction with camouflage colors. Your shitty art is not suddenly more interesting because you found where the orange and teal hues are on the color wheel.
>>5088389You’re ascribing a lot of agency and meaning to something thats more likely to be evolved from see food related color = dopamine mechanisms getting tangled with the sex drive by chance than some higher order reasoned shit about succeeding with a handicapthere is no “reason” for natural animal evolution beyond cosmic ray hit, meiosis error, chromosome/whole genome duplicated, genetically unstable but fertile enough hybrid, viral junk dna, etcbreasts are perpetually enlarged in only some races of humans because of cultural, not natural, selection. we selectively bred ourselves like dogs. that is change with a reason. there is a difference.
>>5088483>Her boobs were too small so I didn't have sex with her>said no man ever
>>5088484>tiny lizard who's survival strategy is to run away
Why was the retard equating a lizard that weighs less than a pound to multi-ton animals deleted?
>>5081073Bottom one looks like it's on its way to the welfare office.
>>5088323>>don't move!>>they can't see you if you don't move!That was a side effect of the frog DNA but they never actually bothered to explain it.
>>5080929I hope a royal poodle will bite you in the ass.
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