my orchid will bloom any day now. for once I have not killed it inadvertently

I like eating plants

Anyone here have success using terra prada for a flower bed?

>>5093317
curious about this as well

what are some good affirmations I can tell my plants everyday?

>>5093325
Tell them Jesus loves them.

>>5093317
>>5093320
I live in Peru, they sell these at local rural markets

I suppose I could try to send them, I need something to contact you though and check the logistics, something like a burner discord account or something similar

>>5093361
Nevermind it is illegal outside of Peru lol, hilarious

>>5093374
What plant was it

>>5093383
cocaine

>>5093359
My plants dont like christians

>>5093548
Based plants??

I dont get how you can overfeed vfts
Like I've been to a bog, there's more insects than plants
I know you can overfertilize regular plants, but carnivores are literally designed to attract insects constantly, at all times. Producing nectar or being bright red or whatever they do is just part of their healthy growth patterns, they physically can't refuse a meal they catch.
Feels like another myth from people keeping them in windows or thinking a 3000fc grow light is strong because it looks bright, so they couldn't handle the food
As far as I've seen everyone just sources a single forum post where a guy said he starved them, fed every trap, and then they made smaller traps

I don't think you can overfeed VFTs desu

>>5093748
I know you can't pitchers either, they are apparently so good at attracting/trapping and so bad at digesting that people regularly report entire pitchers just filled up with a tower of flies and bugs

>>5093758
Yep, some of my pitcher well filled to the top with bugs by fall, must be hundreds of dead bugs per pitcher

>>5094061
Guess that's why they get the biggest

I was proud of my plants for being their tiny, tiny carbon sequestering selves and knowing that every leaf they grew was helping global warming by 0.000000000001 % of 0.000000000000000000000000001% but I recently learned that there literally is not enough space on the entire earth for plants to even make a difference in co2 levels and thats very depressing

>>5094122
if we can cut emissions enough then the trees will catch up (eventually)

>>5094122
The mass of extracted fossil fuels on Earth is very large compared to the mass of all living plants (mostly contributed by trees). We would have to plant trees, cut them, and then store the trunks permanently, and do that for generations to remove all the carbon that was emitted over the last 150 years.

Are aerial roots a permanent sign of your failture or will they reabsorb them?
Is it like a flower stalk where if you snip them down they'll take the hint?
They're my one exception to my 'oh beauty of nature let them grow how they want' bullshit

>>5094586
>oh beauty of nature let them grow how they want
Considering they're in artificial conditions, this is still your responsibility.

>>5094605
I resent your use of the word responsibility
I water him more than even my bog plants, literally still has water in his pot and decides it's just not enough and he has to send out a tentacle to try to drink the truly humid indoor heated room in winter air

>>5093707
>>5093748
Anecdotally, mine has actually done seemingly the same thing the guy described after filling all it's traps but one. Growth has slowed down considerably and its newest trap is actually smaller.
That said, there was another very interesting comment in that same thread that brought up the fact of (paraphrasing) "well, it just caught a bunch of food, so maybe it doesn't really need to focus on making big pretty traps, it could be working on root growth or even spreading the rhizome, you should examine their health over the long term rather than making a conclusion after 2 weeks".
And in my limited non-expert experience, it has been the case to me that plants seem to "focus" on one thing at a time. They get repotted, their topside growth stops almost completely while they get their roots established, then they start growing like crazy once they have nice big roots. An echeveria I have is growing an offshoot, and the leaf growth cycle on the main head has almost completely stopped in favor of pushing the baby out a half centimeter a day.
Lots of people say that flytraps specifically will often actually grow bigger, redder, more impressive traps when they're hungry. We're biased to think that a flytrap with a bunch of giant traps means it's doing the best it can, because it looks cooler, but the traps are basically just expendable arms reaching up to feed the rhizome, the real core of the plant.

>>5094623
oh, also, 2 weeks is the timeframe they digest things for. So, you know, a lot of its energy is probably being spent on that.

>>5092779
down to -25 by the end of next week btw

>>5093638
They evolved to be very based. They put charles darwins theory of evolution by natural selection into practice and stick it to creationism ;^)

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ok the third time is apparently the actual charm, i'm ready to start considering them established
it's not nearly this yellow in real life
should i buy springtails for the sundews or will they be fine for another month or 2 (or 3)?
the pitchers don't seem to be physically capable of catching anything yet which makes me think seedlings don't need much food, but sundews aren't seedlings
the algae also means there's nitrogen and such in the moss, so will that be enough for them to grow off of for a long while?
springtails are stupidly expensive for literally no reason, it should be literal cents for a colony and yet they're only sold in cups for like 10 dollars, even on marketplaces

I killed 2 lithops today
Don't be misled by online diagrams like me, they don't do 3 month cycles with the seasons you can see, they will literally sit there growing their new leaves inside for like, an entire year, split, and then do it again. If they're not rotten, they're not dead.

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Thoughts on my two favourite Forget-Me-Nots?

Should I just fertilize my plants and not care that it's bad for the environment in the same way that an individual person's carbon footprint is literally nothing compared to an oil company's, where my drops of fertilizer running out of a 10 inch pot are nothing compared to the metric tons that farmers wash over their plants constantly

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my lil dudes growing its first flower

>>5095178
Cut it, it's starved of light and too weak to support it.

>>5095195
yeah i was reading up on that. wasnt sure if it would be ok since im feeding it flytrap chunks but yeah its been getting crummy sunlight all winter.

>>5095203
nigger what the fuck is a "flytrap chunk"
go to the pet store and buy a BUG

also
>all winter
just kill it now and save yourself the effort, HOLY

>>5095210
are you inverse 'eat the bugs' posting at me?

>>5094886
i did that to my lithops years ago ;_;

>>5095232
On the one hand, I'm pretty sure neither of them actually had a taproot? Like it had somehow rotted off or something? There was no damage, and they were healthy, but they just didn't have any kind of big central root I could see. So its hard to say how long they would last.
But on the other, it sucks, because I split them open for science (which was how I learned they were still actually in perfect condition) and ALL of their leaves were DOUBLE SPLITTING, I had taken PERFECT CARE OF THEM

>>5095238
It's also weird for a plant completely designed around camouflage for their dead flower stalk to just stay attached for months at a time and be really fleshy and bad to remove, why would they evolve like that?

My dormant plants have not yet arrived from the nursery. I have ordered more plants.

>See word related to plants on building
>Its flower arrangements or weed
Every single time

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Here is a mango tree I've been growing for a few months

>>5095178
get that man a LAMP
>>5095203
>flytrap chunks
???????

>>5095284
Based mango grower. What kind of mango?

Is an offshoot a clone or just a new growth point? If you put one plant in a pot and it fills it with offshoots or runners is it still accurate to say its one plant? Is the cutoff just if it's still connected? Are they easy to remove because they're "supposed" to come off or do we just find it easy to rip them apart because we're big and strong?

>>5094889
cute

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>>5095305
we had a gnat problem in our apartment and on top of bug traps i got two of these flytraps i found in a clearance bin at krogers. unfortunately the gnats are too small to trigger the mouths so it cant eat anything so i have to buy it supps

>>5095489
Get sundews or pinguiculas for the gnats

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>>5095408
I have no idea what kind of mango it was but this is a picture of the exact mango that I took the seed out of

>>5095548
Based i hear those are really sweet compared to the small yellow and big red ones

You guys ever get struck with the feeling that you only really care about a few of your plants and you wouldnt mind if you had to get rid of the rest

>>5095708
definitely, there are some that are a real nuisance to take care of and I often get the feeling I'd be free from a burden if they died
but then again I can't bring myself to willingly get rid of anything or try to kill any of them

>>5095489
i'm calling bullshit on that stuff. if they were serious they'd mention the extra stimulation needed to actually feed VFTs non-living food. they don't seal and begin digestion if the 'prey' doesn't 'struggle.'

>>5095903
Every living Carnivorous plant damages the carnivorous plant industry

>>5095931
Not unless it thrives enough to be divided or hybridized and sold :3

>>5096233
care to explain how consoomers selling their own plants helps the industry retard-kun??

>>5094623
To update, less than a week later, while her growth definitely slowed down, the traps she's pushing out are still just as big and red as her current biggest, so I'm getting ready to call bullshit on this.
That said, I'm probably still not going to "overfeed" just because a flytrap with all of its traps closed is infinitely less fun to look at then one with them open.

Nothing about the plant industry makes any fucking sense
Nurseries want plants to grow as fast as possible for as cheap as possible
so they exclusively use peat
you know, peat, the soil that is so devoid of nutrients carnivores grow in it.
Peat that is also very absorbent and retains a ton of water
And they'll grow succulents in these, like, primarily succulents, because that's what plant normies like
These succulents that are never sun stressed and nearly always etiolated to a degree
so the peat surely wouldn't dry out and they'd start rotting
but they get them to massive sizes before shipping them out, somehow, despite giving them bad light and using garbage soil???
and if peat has no nutrients, why is there an entire industry built around destroying wetlands to harvest it?????

>>5096325
you don't need nutrients to germinate seeds or root cuttings

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>>5096292
Because i said so ;^)

I have gollum jade plant (Crassula ovata gollum), but it is mostly not gollum, but normal jade (flat leaves). I read this can happen, the gollum reverts back to normal.
However there are few leaves that are gollum type (cylinder shape).
If I snip a leaf like that and root it, what are the chances it becomes a complete gollum jade plant?
Any other ideas what to do? I dont really care about normal jade, I just want the gollum variety.

>>5096325
I was wondering how they always have blooming orchids if they mass ship them in dark boxes. Must be local nurseries and fast shipping times

I kind of want a philodendron however it seems they want high humidity. My humidity never really goes above 37%. Will it be too miserable to even attempt?

Ok im gonna try for like the 5th time to propogate an echeveria leaf from the grocery store
Are there ANY tricks beyond the basic knowledge and rolling a die?
Oldest leaves? Biggest leaves? Can they get too much light to root? Do they need to be touching dirt? Will sticking it in after they callous help? Its so simple but it never works for me

>>5096857
>Oldest leaves? Biggest leaves?
One that is already falling off or already fallen

>>5096989
But they don't "fall off", they just shrivel up...

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Postan my terrarium I set up 6 months ago.

Hello, anyone knows a way to dig a 1 meter hole on hard compacted without a shovel or expensive tools without trying? I want to try Hugelkultur to try to revive some barren land i have in my property. hopefully, once i finish the hugelkultur underground piles, i will have enough energy to dig a water reservoir in the middle of my garden.

>>5097188
nice JO crystal, does it really work for keeping the plants alive?

>>5097191
How do you own property but not a shovel?
Unless your soil is more rock than dirt, a meter deep by a couple long is totally doable on the weekend even by a couch potato once you buy that shovel

Will tropical plants die if I take them outside in 20s for 30 seconds or so to get into a warm car, and then again on the other side?

Trying to get my house ready to move, I have snake plants, purple waffle, lucky bamboo, monstera, jade, zz plant, cat palm, and pothos, which I need to get out of my old house and into my new house.

>>5097214
Yes anon, if a single snowflake touches one of their leaves, they will die.

>>5097206
Its earth that has been compacted from years of cars passing over it.

>>5097220
nigga just hit it with shit, pour water on it
are you even male? fucking DIG

>>5097220
Ass quality soil doesn't hurt nearly as much as roots and rocks. Just wet it and start taking slices out of the sides.

>>5097219
Welp, guess they're being sold with the house.

On the topic of selling plants, plants as a financial asset seem very strange to me.
Assuming you have a very old, well taken care of plant, you would assume that it's valuable, because you as a plant person know what goes into growing it.
But it doesn't really matter what you know, because you're not the one buying it. If you're selling a plant, 9 times out of 10 you're going to be selling it to a normie for it to starve on their windowsill. So if they don't care enough about plants to take care of them as well as you, they're not going to want to spend a bunch of money on your plant vs the one at the store, even if yours is prettier. For all I know normies like etiolation and think that's the plant growing and getting bigger because it's doing well. Wow, big tall plant, that's what it's supposed to look like! Well it died after a couple years, but that's just it's lifespan, it's like a fish!
But then if you get to hobbyists or people who actually know or care, and you run into the issue that they could have grown that plant like that themselves, so why spend a ton of money on yours instead of just buying a baby, propagating or rehabbing one? They might even be autistic enough to have a policy about only growing from seed or something.
Which THEN goes into, even if your plant is like 2 decades old and perfectly taken care of, if it's a common species, someone who would be willing to pay a lot for it, probably ALREADY HAS IT, especially given the fact that your local nurseries largely dictate what kind of plants can generally be found in your area, unless someone (likely you) is obsessed and rich enough to buy from etsy.

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>>5094586
>>5094605
>>5094607
Apparently, jellybeans grow aerial roots for the same reason pothos will, as climbing hooks and little stilts to keep themselves upright, as well as fucking preemptive insurance IN CASE they topple over, and so can probably be seen as a sign of good health rather than bad.
He's still super thirsty all the time as I can see by his leaf reabsorbtion, but he's apparently not parched.
And honestly, after seeing this picture, I'm starting to turn around on them, they actually look really elegant if they're allowed to grow long enough to just hang down by gravity (and turn red from the sun) instead of stick out like whiskers.

>plant wasn't dying at all, it was just rootmaxxing to the extreme to compensate for its horrible sunburns
>uprooted it for nothing
feels bad

>>5097236
What are you talking about? The only "old" plants that I can think of that are sold by garden centers are olive trees which arent even grown to be sold as trees. Anything else in a garden center is like 2-3 years old max (for perennials). And normies DO spend money on plants. In North America a single bare roots rose is like 50 bucks.

Thoughts on felt grow bags? Just got a few of them.

To put the book to rest on overfeeding vfts, she is now pregnant, with what looks like TWO new divisions from 0.
So go ahead and feed them as much as they can eat.

I let my aloe get catastrophically thin and underwatered and now I have to toe the line between causing root rot and giving it enough water to perk back up. :((((

>>5097370
>The only "old" plants that I can think of that are sold by garden centers are olive trees which arent even grown to be sold as trees
Exactly
You can't even think of a source of commercially available plants that have been well taken care of for a long time, making them large and impressive.

>>5097433
>available plants that have been well taken care of for a long time, making them large and impressive.
Ok such as?

>>5097370
It's a matter of perspective. A lot of them are clones taken from old, cared-for mother plants.

>>5097445
Bro I dont
I dont understand what you're not getting here
Please stop replying

my red-brown weirdo VFT is cranking out new leaves so i guess it's fine after all
hope the new ones will be better-acclimated to the light levels i've got coming out of this fixture

>still no Wisteria available at big box stores
Wtf I need to get one before they all get bought

>>5097618
my neighbors wisteria grew 100 feet up our pine trees and he wont do anything about it

>>5097619
axe that shit
by that shit, i mean the lowest part of the thing that is growing on your tree, so that the top part just fucking dies

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>>5097188
Astonishing. Oudoors my results are pretty nice overall, but indoors I'm cured, almost always constantly by the dreaded two-spotted spider mite.

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>>5097647
*

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>>5095178

>>5094889
fuzzy
>>5097653
nice petunias

Do air plants need grow lights or could I stick one next to a normal lamp?

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>>5097800
this is the sort of shit air plants are doing when left to their own devices. they might be able to survive in dim conditions, but in general they'd always prefer more light. never forget the primary way a plant grows it outside on its own with nobody looking after it. you just gotta find out where it's doing that and try to convince the plant it's there

>>5097964
I read that third worlders hate them because they're impossible to get rid of weeds that get everywhere and i think thats funny

After checking out some plant books at the library I'm reminded of how annoyed I am that normies just think of plants as flower dispensers and don't care about them outside of that

>>5098126
i think you are severely overestimating how much normies think of plants, period

>>5093097
Can I grow an orange tree from a bit of stem at the top of an orange? I got some sumo oranges, they’re perfect. Huge for sumos, juicy, super thick easy to peel skin with huge knobs on the top. Juicy, delicious. Thick stems on the knobs with some leaf around them. But the stem is short. I put one of the knobs in a pot of dirt and watered it. I need to salvage these genetics. I have my second one still, uneaten. Damn shame no seeds.

It's so depressing that I still have another 88 more days until the last frost date. At least I can start a few things indoors until then and hope my plants do better this year than last. If it wasn't for the Canadian wildfire smoke blocking the sunshine I'm sure my plants would have had a fantastic year last year. I have a lot of delectable compost for my garden this time too

if a mirror reflects light...
would putting one near my grow lights do anything?
The fact that I looked it up and actually got results saying yes actually makes me think it's even less than the nothing placebo I thought it would be, because it seems like one of those lifehack pro tips they tell people to feel less bad about not having proper lighting

moving my plant display from a table down onto the floor has reminded me of just what tiny, precious little beings they are

>>5098128
Maybe if the orange came with a chunk of stem and you grafted it onto an existing orange tree

>>5098242
reflectors absolutely let you recapture light that would otherwise be scattered in non-plant directions, but HOW useful that actually is? depends heavily on the geometry involved.

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flashback to when i was arrested for publick intoxication. they took me to the jail and then confronted me about the plants in my backpack. i took some cuttings of euphorbia and the guy at the station was so exited. he said euphoria?!! he was so dick hard for some spurge. once i told him to look it up he stfu.

>>5098242
I put a shitload of aluminum foil over mine.

>>5098532
I might do that too, it seems schizo and funny looking

if you ever repot always use a spoon or something, tool vs hand is the difference between a relaxing evening giving your plants more room and a stressful mess that ends with non-centered plants that you have to deal with for another year

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>>5099261
Chopsticks work well for picking out the substrate without damaging roots.

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>>5093097
About a year ago, I germinated around 10,000 petunia saeds and ultimately grew to flowering maturity about 500 specimens. I've got one, doing quite nicely, under lights, that's pretty much the same as that orange variety that escaped the Max Planck institute in mid 80s.

>>5099366
ARID ZINE IS A /PLANT/POSTER???

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>>5099394
I think you're mistaken

So I have my one perfect plant that I always give the best direct and center grow light spot to, I'm very proud of him and want him to grow completely optimally.
I've bought some other plants and done some repotting, and I'm getting less comfortable with how little light the ones on the edge are getting.
If I were to rotate the primo spot around, would it affect my golden boy getting the optimal amount of light? If plants sun stress because they're at maximum light capacity, make stores of glucose for later as opposed to using it as they get it, then he shouldn't actually be losing any significant amount by being out of the way for some days out of the week, right?

>suddenly blocked from nursery website I already bought plants from in the past
Go fuck yourself too I guess

after less than single day under the grow light, my new agavoides is already going from green to getting its lipstick tinge on the edges of its leaves
fastest thing I've ever seen a plant do

>>5099683
What happened anon? Dish!

>>5099683
kek how does one get blocked from a plant website

>>5099826
>>5099831
Cloudfare blocked me for some reason

>>5099900
Use a different browser.

>>5099900
If you've got a browser extension for blocking scripts etc then that might be blocking something cloudflare wanted to confirm you're not a bot; otherwise, the only suggestion I can think of is trying again another day.

What is your favorite invasive plant?

>>5093325
Grow you fucker. GROW
Works for me

>>5100002
Invasive or like "invasive?"

>>5100017
Either. Weedy plants that make people seeth.

>hehe im gonna do ecological damage to own the libs
Fuck off

>>5100002
Kalanchoe daigremontiana

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could any plant enthusiasts help me figure out what this is? I'm a /g/ sperg. My guess is garlic, but I haven't been able to 100% say if its garlic/onion/something else.

Why are normoids so obsessed with "native plants"?

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>>5100019
I really like sumacs. They're native here but they have all of those annoying pioneer traits. They're "trees" but they're so small and cute and I like their low, spread out canopy.

>>5100200
only one way to find out

They're not, you've just convinced yourself that anybody that even slightly disagrees with anything you say must be an other lesser npc because it makes it easier for your tiny brain to process us vs them.

>>5100251
Seeing them along the highway is the highlight of my commute. They stand out well among the generic greenry.

>it's finally going above freezing
I know it won't last...

>>5100251
Those have completely taken over my local sand pit where I walk my dog.

>literally no green anywhere on the leaves
>has spent the past 3 months baking 12 hours a day under the grow light
>spends ONE DAY slightly to the side instead of directly underneath it
>nearly doubles in width spreading the leaves out because he's hungy
I guess this >>5099474 is a no go

>>5100200
not enough of the plant to tell, need the leaf tips, location, climate, etc

>>5100223
It is one of the few forms of nationalism they are allowed to practice.

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>>5100256
I will report back with confirmation whenever it appears ready to harvest, assuming there is anything to harvest.

>>5100737
Most of the tips broke when I covered the planter during a front. Zone 10 though. Here's a smaller one I pulled because it was too close to my mango that started growing. Only a fraction of it was poking above the soil and it had a clean break where I'm assuming the bulb was attached. Didn't dig it out though since it was right next to the mango.

I dumped out some pots of dead epazote only to find out they're perennials

>>5100748
It almost looks like amaryllis or some other flowering bulb (decorative allium)
dig up the bulb and plant it elsewhere, see if it blooms into something nice

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i just checked a seed tray that's been sitting out in the elements since last year and has been flooded to the top with water and frozen solid multiple times over the winter, and one of the plants somehow had a 100% survival rate

man these things are fucking stronk

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>>5093097
Indoors and out, my results with petunias are kind of insane. I've about 50 specimens under lights now, that I grew from seed planted last.March. When it comes to nuance, the species is goddamn endless, if not out of sight as the apple family is.

>>5100223
>normoids
I wish. There are corners for a few natives in the better stores now but it's still mostly small online shops and hunt and share.

>Why
Nostalgia, suprise gardening and animal attraction. If you want certain bees and butterflies you'll need certain plants.

>>5101055
What cultivars grow that tall?

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>>5100200
>>5100256
>>5100737
>>5100748
>>5100758
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. I thought I was caring for garlic all this time. Pulled another smaller one, then the bigger ones once I got the root out without a break and saw it wasn't garlic. Every AI I've shown has said it's iris apparently. Thanks for the help, looks like its time to plant real garlic now.

>>5101415
Iris is a beautiful plant. Plant them somewhere wet on your property and in a year they will reward you will blooms. You might as well care for them as well.

>>5101415
Why did you want garlic so bad
You know you can just bury garlic from the store right

>>5101419
I actually replanted it in a more damp area of the yard, so hopefully it'll turn into something. I'll post an update in a year if it does.

>>5101423
I'm not actually that upset over it that was just a meme. I am disappointed since it sprouted randomly, thought it was garlic, and cared for it in hopes of producing something tangible and consumable as a sign of my care, which I could also replant. Was excited as a pale /g/ shut in who doesn't see the sun to have something appear to be thriving despite my thumb being gray instead of green. I did end up burying some large garlic cloves though, so I'm hopeful for round two with my now autistic knowledge of garlic.

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Hey /plant/, I'm in a bit of a predicament here and I need some advice.
About a year ago, I got this succulent(An Orbea?) from a nursery, the typical multiple props planted in one pot sort of thing that they sell. As they grew, they began to crawl out of the pot so I went to replant them into a wider one, and the arms all breaking apart was pretty much unavoidable due to how fragile they were. I figured no big deal, I'll just space them all out inside the wider pot and let them fill it out. That was months ago.
Now about a week or two ago, I went to inspect it to see how it's doing since I figured they would surely need water with how long it's been, only to find that one of the plants in the pot had basically liquified(pic related).
I'm puzzled about what could have happened here. It was a very long time since I had last watered and the soil is bone dry, has excellent drainage, clay pot, etc, and I don't water often either.
All the other ones in the pot are completely fine, and I removed the bad one.
Fast forward to today, all the plants in the pot are very thirsty and need to be watered, but despite how utterly dry the soil has been, I can still pick up that sour scent when I go near it. Is the soil more or less ruined and I have to throw *all* of it out and do a full re-pot, or can I just continue watering it like normal and everything will be fine?

The damp looking bit of soil in the picture is from the plant melting.

>>5101468
You generally want to get succulents out of their nursery pot ASAP as their usually a peat mix meant to keep them alive during transport. It looks like they're still in peat too. Rot can sit and spread pretty slowly through succs. I'd follow that piece on the right down until you find good healthy tissue and sever it

>>5101514
The whole piece was destroyed, arm was a dark green and I severed it, haven't repotted it yet because I wanted to monitor it.
It was removed from it's nursery pot as soon as I got it, and the pot in the picture is the second pot(of mine) it's been in.
Potting mix is coco coir and pumice.
Does rot compromise the soil? I don't know if I got every single root of the plant out of there because there are other plants still in there and I wouldn't know which root is which.
I'm just wondering if I would be safe to water the plants now.

bromeliads. that's the post