Prehistoric Mystery Editionprevious: >>5076174This thread is dedicated to all animals of the Reptilia and Amphibia classes. Topics include, but are not limited to: geckos, snakes of all kinds, frogs, salamanders, newts, turtles, tortoises, and much more. Before asking a question, do a search on the internet to see if it has been answeredClassifieds for finding breeders and products:>morphmarket.com>kingsnake.com>faunaclassifieds.com>caudata.orgMost forums will have a "for sale" section on them, so look for that, especially if you have a specific herp you want. Craigslist can also be a good source for cheap aquariums, and make sure to check for any reptile expos that occur in your area.When asking a question, make sure to include these details:>Type and size of animal>Enclosure dimensions>Humidity and temperature>Type of substrate>The decor you use>How often you feed>The type of food you use>If your animal is wild caught or captive bred>How often you handle>Who you bought the animal fromOther Helpful Resourceswww.blackjungleterrariumsupply.comwww.joshsfrogs.comhttp://www.reptilesmagazine.comhttp://www.anapsid.orghttp://www.hylid.clara.co.uk/caer.htmhttps://www.americanmadeexotics.com/breeding-ball-pythons-article.html
is there any reason to not just exclusively feed hornworms to a new caledonian gecko?I hate crickets. They don't readily take dubias and I fucking hate finding dubias they decided to just let go in their cages. The male readily takes and the female goes ballistic for hornworms and they're not super fatty and offer a decent amount of chitin. The main reason I want to provide insects is for chitin, hydration and stimulation since CGD has all of the nutrients handled.
>>5093681A more varied diet is always better than a less varied diet, but if hornworms and CGD is the alternative to just CGD, it’s obviously a superior choice. Have you tried soldier fly larva?
>>5093685i haven't done soldierflies but my local store only reliably has hornworms, dubias and crickets. I think wormy things in general are more up their alley since they took silkworms and waxworms before, but i'm not really trying to powerfeed/bulk them so I don't see much of a point in giving them super fatty stuff.
>walk past garden>see little lizard chilling on shadecloth>it's just one of the many skinks that chill there daily>do a double take>that's a huge head for a skink>it's a Bearded Dragon>holy fuck that's a small Bearded Dragon, smaller than my pinkie finger>notice it sit there the entire day>big Huntsman spider starts moving closer and closer to it>pick the Bearded Dragon up and put in my garden away from spiderSorry God but I had to interfere, he was too smol and cute to be eaten by a shitty spider.
Alright guys I'm in trouble.I catch salamanders and frogs when I see them, but thing my fat huge salamander was in fact pregnant and laid larvas. I checked online and they eat mosquitos larvas and shit but it's winter there and there are none. I caught small flies and they won't eat them, same for small worms I bought. It's like they won't eat anything. I hesitated releasing them but we're in winter. The weather actually is ok these days and the lake probably won't freeze but I'm afraid it snows or something in february and they all die or get eaten by a predator.Is there a way to feed them or do I have to release them hoping for them to survive? They're in that basket for a full week and surprisingly didn't die… What do?
So full and fat
>>5094148Any fish stores near you? Some of them sell different live feeders like daphnia, bloodworms and stuff. Alternatively you can buy brine shrimp eggs there and hatch them, then feed the freshly hatched nauplii to the salamanders. The brine shrimp hatch within 1-2 days, so if you keep the salamanders cool they should survive until then.
>>5094181I second the suggestion of brine shrimps until they grow big
>>5094181>>5094205>Any fish store near you?Not really I live in the middle of nowhere. I went to a fishing shop, where I bought the worms but it's a small shop and at this period the choice is extra narrowed. I bought the smallest of the 2 type of worms used to fish but they won't eat it, they must be too big for them. They could actually eat them if they teared them apart but won't do it.Alright I'll try to see online and IRL to get the shrimp eggs but I hope the larvas will survive until I get the eggs and they hatch. I'll try to get the daphnia and bloodworms if I can IRL too.
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>Ball PythonI have been using this as a hide/basking platform for a while now and my snakes love it.As it's just bare wood texture though, it doesn't really blend in with the enclosure so I was considering painting it. Also by painting it darker, it should hold the heat more for them.Would general non-toxic acrylic and a gloss be okay to use or is there a specific paint/seal to use?Also was looking for some sort of texture for the basking platform (artificial grass or something) to give them some enrichment; any idea on what I could use that isn't reptile rug or a layer of substrate?
I know I've asked this before but what turtles live the longest?
>>5093883dubias are so good for reptiles they feel like they're artificially made, they have a better ratio of fat to protein than nearly any easily available feeder
>>5094543steel wool (plain steel wool no detergent obviously) dissolved in vinegar is a non-toxic, natural wood stain/ebonizer.As for fake grass, it's cheap as shit, go for it.
>>5094148Look up guides made by axolotl breeders. It’ll be the same
>>5094148>know about baby salamanders>know why axolotls are the way they are>still went "wait a minute, they don't make tadpoles?"
>>5094148Muck from a stream or pond will have dormant arthropods, same with soil. Warm it up and feed it some food to see if anything edible to salamanders pops up.
>>5094543I would bury it in substrate and leaves. I do that with half log hides and it looks nice.
>>5094553box turtles and wood turtles can live for a pretty long time compared to other turtles if you're looking for a non-tortoise option. There's also both common snappers and gator snappers if you have the space and wouldn't mind getting something more dangerous.
>>5094843not specifically looking for a non tortoise option
>>5094887oh then well pretty much all tortoises if well taken care of could live a full human lifetime with some species potentially outliving you when it comes to large species.
could I realistically fit a male ball python in a 30 gallon?
>could it fitshut the fuck up and dont buy a reptile
>>5095355It's a genuine question, faggot. Reddit says the tank needs to be like 5 foot long but breeders keep snakes in tiny tubs their entire life so I think 30 gallons for a male might be a reasonable middle ground.
>>5095361Why would you use snake mill breeding practices as a point of reference? Reddit says the enclosure should be about 5 feet long because that’s about the length of most adult ball pythons. The snake should be able to stretch out fully along the length of the enclosure
>Every youtuber telling me to follow the girl that got banned for whistleblowing the reptile super show animal abuse.>let's support her business in this trying time so she can afford her lawsuit guys>Instagram followers blown up overnight>instantly switches to reposting far left ICE hate videos on her stories>argues with her customers over politics on reels>>IDK who needs to hear this but loving plants IS political because you can't enjoy them if you're murdered by ICE>>I'm Thai American and our husband is Latino, our WHOLE LIFE IS political Lmao
>>5095816I hope ICE kills them all
It's snowing right now, where would little guys like this Italian Wall Lizard go to hide from the cold?
>>5095863Deeper holes in the walls, old rodent burrows, piles of wood or rocks, tree trunks, under large leaf piles. Just various frost-free places they can get into.
How do you make a hibernaculum that won't turn into a rodent nest? I don't want the sleeping snakes getting eaten by mice over the winter.
>>5095816>reposting far left ICE hate videos on her storiesYou should hate gestapo larpers, but a plant girl on social media shouldn’t be the reason
>>5095906The level of projection and autism on her SM is starting to make me think she spergged out on the event organizers and got kicked for legitimate reasons. Anyone in the right wouldn't be trying to burn the goodwill of their followers like this, especially if you are running a business.
>>5095361The middle ground between shitty and reasonable is just “a bit less shitty” it’s not “a reasonable middle ground”.You’ll spend significantly more on replacement basking bulbs throughout the snake’s life than you’ll spend on a normal PVC 5x2x2. Now, if you get a male and you don’t power feed him, so he doesn’t get big, a 4x2x2 might be a reasonable middle ground, and a 4x2x2 is half the price of a 5x2x2, because the 5x2x2 advice is meant to be something that can accommodate a 99th percentile ball python and you’re aiming for like a 40th percentile snake, but a 30 gallon is a third the size of a 4x2x2, and it is ridiculous to decide that it’ll be adequate, just because the rackniggers do worse.A 4x2x2 should comfortably accommodate a snake up to 53 inches long or so, and a 3x2x2 would be adequate for a snake with a total length of up to 42 inches long, but even a small male ball should be bigger than that as an adult.
>>5095816god forbid people say anything that isn't about one specific topic i guess??
>>5095964>argues with her customers over politics on reelsIts require more than room temperature IQ to understand why this is a shit idea.
are jumping spiders as good pets as they seem?
I noticed during my last feeding time my baby pear island boa swallowed a noticeably large piece of substrate. I noticed it in its neck as a bulge. I just want to know what to look out for over the coming days, impaction is obviously a risk but what else is there. I've never had this happen before so im quite worried.Also, I can't feed her out of the enclosure or place down a mat of smooth surface to feed her on currently. Although she eats fine, it only happens when she hasnt been disturbed. If I make too much movement in the cage she gets defensive and wont eat. Meaning my optimal times to feed her are very sparse and I have to be careful.
>>5095816You know what I can see why they decided to ban her now.
>>5095987While they are neither reptiles nor amphibians, they are pretty easy spiders to care for. They need minimal space, an easy to set up home, and are not really picky eaters.However, they do molt a few times, and their last molt has a pretty high chance of failing, killing the spider. They will make a little hammock nest and try to molt for up to a few weeks, not eating during this time. Providing their molting doesn't fail, they are really chill around humans. Handle them often and they will jump onto your hand no problem.
On my third frog, thinking of getting a fourth one. I am starting to grow concerned about if I am weirdo for doing so
Anybody know any good natural hides for a garg? Something like a coconut hide but I want it to be more untouched nature versus a carved hole, open to suggestions
>>5096910Can never go wrong with cork rounds, if you're willing to put in more effort you can create 3D backgrounds yourself with expanding foam + silicon and attach the rounds directly to the background
Sulcatas should be banned from normies breeding/buying them.
>>5096963I have such a setup but also just wanted another hide to try since he mainly just hangs out in the cork round or under some leaves on the bendy vines. I guess I could just break and file the edges around the hole to make it look more accidental unless anybody has a better idea.
>>5096993I'd like to have one, if I ever move to Florida I'll get oneIt'll live in the yard though
>>5096993I have no idea how sulcatas got so popular as pets. They're unironically some of the most destructive and stubborn reptiles on earth. Those bastards dig burrows everywhere and are so strong they can dig through concrete walls and bend metal fences. It's like having a bulldozer roaming around your yard. And sadly a lot of them don't even get proper care and end up with pyramiding.
>>5098116Same reason red eared sliders, iguanas, or any other reptile is popular. They make a lot of cute babies.
>>5098116>perpetually cantankerous Killdozers that will, with proper care, outlive me twice over
Maybe I should get a female gargoyle gecko so they can mate. Then I could just destroy the eggs since I don't want to breed them. The hairbrained theory is that animals are worse off if they do not fulfill reproductive acts similar to how it's shit to be a human incel who doesn't fuck which can affect mental and physical health. I don't want my guy to be a drydick forever and suspect that having them mate, even if the offspring are discarded, could be beneficial. Crazy idea or no?
why is my leopard gecko the way he is
Why are mealworms orders of magnitude more expensive than crickets if they're so much easier and more convenient to culture?
>>5098116>and are so strong they can dig through concrete walls and bend metal fencessource?
>>5098162Leopard geckos are special......
>>5098188
>>5098222that's not concrete...
>>5098243You quoted metal fences, I gave you an example I found......
>>5098152you could end up like that one youtuber whose garg died due complications from permanent erectionhttps://youtu.be/JBs1MNwG3Bo?si=wWN50sfdJnkgKx_g
>>5098116People forget that cute baby will gain at least 100lbs and live for a century. But they don't give a shit since they got the clicks and upvotes
>>5098268saw that before RIP Fuji lol. died doing what he loved at least. rly tho there might be some idea to having the geckos mate for health e.g. the extreme example of bimaturism in orangutans in which they stay small and beta without flanges unless they are they are the alpha with free access to females due to cortisol etc. if there's such a dramatic change in these apes then why not maybe smaller beneficial changes in other animals as well?
>>5098249anon...the very first thing i said...retard...
But what if I want a big friend that will live for 100 years?
>>5098319I read that ostriches can apparently live to be 80 when other ratites have the standard animal 20 max years
>>5098222
>>5098319you don't let him pyramid that badly thenand certainly not housed with another tortoise in a tiny aquarium tank
>>5098339SMART
>>5098339The reptiles...they're evolving...
>>5098801>reticnaturally
https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1qwggg4/a_live_worm_escaping_through_the_gills/Poor little bastard is fat as fuck :(
>>5098878>lego substratewhy the fuck would you do this lol>REEE BARE BOTTOM SUCKSuse tile then moron
Can anyone identify? I'm pretty sure it's a Pinewoods treefrog but I'm uncertain
>>5099040>why the fuck would you do this lolquirk chunguses are gonna quirk chungus
My meanest animal easily
Bit of an alcohol fuelled post here, but I love my blue tongue.It's taken years, but I feel like we finally have some sort of connection (was a wild blue tongue I ended up taking care of, so I only handle when changing the substrate). I like talking to him (or her) though, and definitely understands the word "food". Always funny watching the reaction where he'll start moving towards me and flicking the tongue. Has gotten bold enough where I'll be getting the food ready and he'll start climbing out the terrarium and almost fall out, but then I have to help him back in sometimes. Still has that weird autistic skink skittishness, but I love seeing that recognition when taking in my usual tone. >>5098801>*BANG*>good job
>pet store out of feeder crickets>buy waxworms>still not moving after being at room temp for several hoursGreat
>>5099411No doubt. They have to live with arthopods that are larger than them.
Instead of misting my enclosures to no avail trying to boost the humidity, I just dump a couple of gallons of water onto the substrate and mix it around and it stays >70 for at least a week. Why did you fucking dicks not tell me to do this.
>>5099830I genuinely have no clue why this isn't common practice, reptile keepers are just generally retarded.
>>5099839You have no idea the retarded shit ive read trying to boost humidity in my enclosures, spend 100$ on a mister, mossages (socks filled with wet sphagnum moss), I even had some retard claim its fine to have a enclosure be at 30% humidity for a tropical snake species as long as you give it a some fuck ass humid box that grows mold and is probably as hot as an oven for the snake. I just realized today for whatever reason the only time I have stable humidity is when I place down fresh substrate from an eco earth brick. Had a little light bulb moment.
>>5099842the humid hide is tried and true, it's a thingbut yes, it's absurd seeing people spend hundreds on misting systems, constantly spraying water and wondering why mold grows, without ever actually thinking about what actually happens when it rains. Oh we need 3 inches of clay balls for a drainage layer, you know, so the tiny drops of water from the spray bottle will have somewhere to go when they seep all the way down through the dirt into the bottom of the tank>b-but if I do that the ground will be wet all the timethese people are trying to keep an entire animal, sometimes hordes of animals. when they've never even kept proper care of a plant and it shows
>>5099830>>5099839>>5099843I came into this thread to post about how happy I feel getting an automatic misting system up and running for less than $50 compared to the $200 brands people shill all the time.But just as a quick aside, if you drown the substrate with water you will still cause potential issues with mold as well as potentially killing cleaning crew with each cycle. Also if you place humidity a sensor near the soil it won't read air humidity but the humidity from the surface soil. This isn't a problem with terrestial herps however that burrow.
>>5099898As we all know, worms isopods and springtails famously go through mass population declines and are found dead en masse whenever it rainsIsopods famous for HATING water and soil that is too wet.
>>5099909I thought woodlice drown
>>5099915it is in fact possible for them to drownit's also possible for them to dig upward and sit under rocks, leaves and wood if you actually deliberately try to turn your terrarium into a fish tank instead of just saturating the soil
I can't take snake people seriously when they rave about how intelligent species like cribo and indigo snakes are.
>>5093967Guess it's here to stay for a while
>>5100006>OH MOI HECKIN' CRIBOI
>>5099843I must of not conveyed what I was trying to say effectively, I never meant to say humid hides were a bad thing. Its just when the ambient humidity is far lower than what is required and someones only solution is to other a humid hide was a problem.>>5099898I replace the substrate every two to three months, it would be monthly if prices were not so high. Im not really concerned with mould. It only grows when there is not enough circulation in the enclosure.
>>5099898I also don't really give a shit about isopods I dont use them. Don't know why you brought it up
>>5100154You don't use clean up crew?
>>5100163Nope
>>5100164Huh. Just me then
>>5093568Here is a Cottonmouth AKA Water moccasin, I took this picture on a cool April morning just a few miles south of Muskogee Oklahoma on a paved road goes to a boat ramp on the Arkansas River he was warming himself on the pavement lots of snakes get run over that way,
shlop shlop shlop shlop shlop shlop shlop shlop shlop shlop shlop shlop shlop shlop shlop shlop shlop shlop shlop shlop shlop shlop shlop shlop
They always look like they're perpetually grinning.
Neat reptile spotted today.Can anybody ID it?iNaturalist says it’s in the Anoles genus.
>>5101162What region? Def an anole.
>>5101165Dominican Republic in the Punta Cana region.Here’s another lizard I’ve spotted>janjan having a meltdown and falsely wiping posts
>>5101102I don't get how one could hate reptiles.
>>5101225Just discovered today that Bearded Dragons "wave" at other animals/things
So he doesn't 'love' you, but does he 'like' you?
>>5101225well they are mostly soulless idiots and arguably it's immoral to even feed higher-brained beings like mammals to them since it's basically like throwing a puppy in a blender. i did not think i would like reptiles for this reason but ended up with a gecko because all the similar sized small mammal pets had issues i didn't care for (like being more social/perhaps less suited to captivity than people say) or were lame.
