Shubunkin are the best goldfish.

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Hell yeah a smashed slammed fish edition thread.

Seriously, how does one look at this and think this is okay?

>>5100460
there is a contingent of fishkeeping people who really do want the most retarded and deformed goldfish possible

I have an empty 10g aquarium, what should I try to breed in it? I would ideally like to make some money if possible.

>>5100475
amano shrimp

>>5100475
Neoheterandria elegans, Phyllanthus fluitans, and Cryptocoryne wendtii "Pink Flamingo".

>>5100460
They look cute in ponds. I think puffer fish are a more interesting option for a fish of that shape though.

>>5100431
More like slop edition

>>5100489
more like ur gay

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>Heavy breathing

almost ready to 'scape my tank anons! i just need to break one big rock into two smaller rocks and put it all together.

>>5100475
Neocaridinia shrimp. They breed readily if water parameters are good and are easy to sell.

Don't do amanos. They breed in brackish.

>>5100574
I've been thinking about trying out one of the Open Source controller platforms. All the commercial platforms have some major deficiencies. At least with a DIY solution I could improve upon it myself.

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New tank has been set up with fish and sump running for over a week now. No sign of ammonia other cycle issues (used a big ass sponge filter from old tank to innoculate), and no leaks from the sump. Went a bit heavy on hardness but fish stock should all be fine with it.

It's a 60ish gallon tank (48x18x18 with small overflow/baffle) and a 25 gallon sump, of which roughly 18 gallons are moving bed filter, 4 gallons are static to act as mech filtration, and 3 gallons are the pump section - the 7 that aren't moving bed run very low because my intake is slower than I expected, but the whole thing can't flood from electricity or pump failure unless I overfill the system, due to the excess space in the sump.

The mulm you see here has all been removed at this point, by combination of quick polishing filter run and the corys tossing it into the water to make its way to the sump.

>>5100475
You won't much money breeding out of a 10g. You should do it for the fun. But if you are going to breed:

>Pest Snails
There are endless shrimp sellers. Plants are kind of a waste of the space since most grow better emersed. No one buys random guppies offline.

You can toss ramshorn and bladder snails in there with just an airstone. One it matures, you can pull out dozens or more at a time. If you could move them all you could easily clear $50-100 a month after minimal expenses

Honestly you do the same in 5g buckets and save the 10g for a nice betta tank.

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I've been dealing with bacterial blooms in this left tank for literally months.
I never wanted to do a blackout, but it went away on it's own twice for about a week.
I tried a power head with a polish filters once and it cleared in a day for about two weeks, and I was like hell yeah
It's come back again, had the powerhead running for a couple days and no change.
The powerhead is immensely oversized for the 10G, but the guppies seem to enjoy it.

I now have a bloom in this other tank next to it for the first time, which is infuriating. This tank just has some snails and plants, it's seasoning for shrimp I want to breed.
I've never had this happen in my 75G or 20G.

I just tested and found KH absent in the guppy tank, which is unusual for my hard water ~200-300 gpg.

I usually don't do water changes on the tank because I read that gives the bacteria more food, but I'm doing a 50% now to top off the KH.

Just a reoccuring annoyance, I'd be grateful for any insight.

>>5100726
Whats the filtration like? If it's been going on that long, I'd suspect there is insufficient biomedia space for the bacteria to colonize, which is why you're seeing it in the water column.

Looks like sand capped dirt, too? Could still be leaching into the water, which can feed bacterial blooms. But even still, more filtration will fix it.

>>5100728
I have two small sponge filters, fine. I alternate cleaning them and they haven't ever gotten clogged up.

>>5100732
oh and it's just sand, no dirt. there's some aquasoil spheres scattered on top and root tabs put in 6 months ago, I never topped them off. just use some fertilizer once every other week because frankly the plants are annoying to trim lol

>>5100732
How do you clean them? Could be doing too much cleaning. I'd probably replace one with a course sponge - ideally a larger one, too - and only cleaning the fine sponge.

>>5100739
I don't really. They've been in there for 6 months and I've maybe cleaned them each twice by just wringing out in water. The floss powerhead obviously I clean after use, but that's not supposed to be doing bacterial job.
I do a water change maybe once a month, just top off usually. Been using RO water to try to deprive the bacteria.

I do have some more medium coarse sponges coming, so I can try that. However it doesn't explain the bacteria in the right tank which only has the bioload of a dozen snails, tank is 30% hornwort.

Could it be from dust in the room? All my other tanks are in a room with much less dusty air...

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I saw one of these at the store. What can you tell me about them?

>>5100753
Identification Features

Distinct bicolor body:

Front half: vivid purple/magenta

Rear half: bright yellow

Sharp mid-body color transition

Small black spot on the dorsal fin near the front

Slender, laterally compressed body typical of basslets

This color pattern is diagnostic. Few reef fish have that clean purple-to-yellow split.

Species Overview

Common Name: Royal Gramma
Scientific Name: Gramma loreto
Family: Grammatidae (basslets)
Native Range: Caribbean Sea, Gulf of Mexico, Western Atlantic
Typical Habitat: Reef caves and overhangs, 3–60 ft depth

Behavior

Semi-territorial but generally reef-safe

Often hangs upside down under rock ledges

Defends a small cave or crevice

Not aggressive toward dissimilar species

Aquarium Relevance

Very popular in marine aquariums because:

Hardy once acclimated

Small adult size (~3 inches)

Reef safe (does not bother corals)

Accepts frozen and pellet foods

Tank recommendations:

30+ gallons minimum

Plenty of rock structure with caves

Stable salinity (1.024–1.026 SG)

>>5100753
They are much better tankmates than the similarly looking as the also popular royal dottyback that has the same yellow/purple split (with an even sharper transition). If you plan to get one, make sure you're getting a basslet and not a dottyback. The dottyback does not have the black dot. I've had three over the last decade+ and they all have individual personalities, so be aware that your experience may not be the same as someone else's. My first one was rather curious and would always swim belly to the rocks. The second one was on the skittish and territorial side and unfortunately did not last more than a year. My current one is the most chill and does not hug the rocks much like my first one: he tends to swim out in the open. I don't think I've ever seen him take a defensive posture (flaring his mouth). I've had this current one for about five years now I think.

Do you really need a protein skimmer and all the other bells-and-whistles for a simple marine tank?
Can't I just use a canister filter?

Just saw some Cherry shrimp having sex before an Amano strolled along and started ripping one of them in half. Not sure what his problem was but that Cherry's dead now.

>>5100460
It has the same lifespan as a comet, can succesfully breed, and it swims well enough for the human-provided environment they were selected for. The fish doesn't care what it looks like if it can eat and fuck.

>>5100468
Every fancy goldfish is at least borderline retarded. One day I was looking at my oranda and I realized the fish had down syndrome. They can barely swim, especially the two tailed varieties. Koi coloration is beautiful though. Bunch of retarded little fish peacocks.

>>5100468
That's just people in general.
Look at people who get pugs.
My neighbor has a French Bulldog and I can hear it breathe through the walls. I feel bad for it.

>>5101052
>I can hear it breathe through the walls
That made me chuckle a little too much.

Sponge filter for nano fish tank
Y/n

>>5101098
Y

>>5100742
What’s the source of the dust? That very well might be your issue.

>>5101127
just normal human dust, they're in my bedroom and my PC tends to drag in the dust from the rest of the house.
I put in a UV sterilizer last night. They were cheaper than I expected. I know it's not addressing the root, but I'm still waiting on those coarse sponge filters and sick of looking at it.

What are Saltwater fish that have direct freshwater cousins?
Like thr tiger moray eel, freshwater puffers and stingrays.

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>>5101148
pipefish

>>5100699
My massive gripe, as with any brand really, is being locked into a system. Something a lot of marine owners complain about. Proprietary sensor this, proprietary cloud-controlled that. Fuck that noise - I want complete control and flexibility.

>>5100726
How often do you test for ammonia and nitrite?
I'm not asking as if talking to a new tank owner, but because blooms indicate abundance of one thing and a lack of another.
Sand finings are possible, but at least the former is easier to rule out at peak and troughs.

>>5101148
Deez

>>5101276
i have been testing regularly. ammonia and nitrate are never existenet

>>5101280
I would imagine you should see at least some nitrate, guppies/endlers may be low bioloads but still. With blooms, you should be detecting ammonia pre-bloom and nitrate post-bloom. The bacteria processes ammonia into nitrate and only blooms when a. insufficient substrate to colonize and b. surplus ammonia that overwhelms colonized substrate. When the bloom ends, the bacteria doesn't just disappear, it dies - which may spike ammonia again.

I have only ever run very heavily planted tanks with overkill filtration, so I am speculating here, but so far as I can guess it's a reasonable guess.

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>>5101298
i meant nitrite. of course there's some nitrate; like 50 ppm. it's a whole floor of plants so that's not an issue
I haven't actually done any ammonia tests since I have to use the liquid kit instead of strips, and the tanks are seasoned. Figured there would be high nitrite if something was wrong with bacterial availability.
I just tested it and there's none, after 36 hours of UV bacterial slaughter.
I'll make make a point to test it next time, since I'm now very familiar with early signs

anyway got a UV sterilizer on on friday, was only 35$ on amazon and have had it running; striking results
put in the bigger coarse sponge filter yesterday
the right tank I just did a 100% water change on, had my shrimp arrive and didn't want to be experimenting on them

>>5101337
If it's seasoned and even reasonably filtered there's no nitrites or ammonia. Doubly so with plants. Those things are noob traps but after the cycle is done you should never at any point have measurable of either, unless you fucked up hard.

With limited mech filtration/outlets for the DOCs from the plants (which they put off even when perfectly healthy), and with UV having worked, it's definitely bacterial bloom, and probably heterophagous bacterial that are eating the floating plant debris. UV and generally more filtration should fix it.

>>5101346
That makes a lot of sense. It is FULL of whatever fucking plant that is. Its like a thin val and I have to cut em all down all the time because they just incessently grow. Don't do a great job getting all the debris. There's hundreds of snails in there always nommin on it.
And the right tank I had noticed the java moss was going completely brown, I ended up yanking it.
I don't see myself doing more filtration, I hate HoBs and it's just some 10Gs. I'll definitely see if it correlates with trim sessions though.

>>5101348
I'd guess dwarf sag or thin leaf chain sword or maybe even spiral Val (only spirals sometimes).

You could feed them both into a 10g sump fairly easily if you wanted to be fancy. Or grab some more sponge filters or internal canisters. Up sizing a sponge and changing to 20ppi (if it's higher ppi) would provide noticeably increased biocapacity. Or replace an air pump with a powerhead and aim it to chop the top of the water some, similarly significant impact.

HOBs are pretty shit in general, from any way you want to slice it. If you're using those with the custom made canisters, yeet that and throw some k1 media or (unironically) nylon scrubber pads in to fill it instead and you'll be better off.

>>5100460
>>5100468
Adam Ragusoya has two of those goldfish. They look like his wife, so it checks out.

>>5100486
opinion discarded

>>5100717
>easily clear $50-100 a month
bruh, who in the world pays for pest snails? you can get a few for free, and then you have an endless supply.

>>5100764
I only have a power head and a surface skimmer, it's been running for three years without any issues.

>>5101386
Puffer owners.

>>5101386
>>5101403
it's actually crazy. they for for like 3/15$
I have puffers and bought some to start but yeah they now cover all my tanks and I guess I could sell em
Already sell 1/2 cup floaters for 15$ on facebook all the time
Yeah guess i'll setup a bucket
it's unironically a chill ~45$/week at this point
they just keep growin

My Odessa barbs genocided the bladder snails. Before adding them, thriving population. After, zero. All the eggs, too. May have gotten all the ramshorn eggs and small ramshorn too, I only see a handful of big ones now.

>>5101148
archerfish, gobies, sculpins, cardinalfish, drum.

>>5101148
salmonids
gobies
sculpins
drums (Scianidae)
herrings
catfish

>>5101386
If you have an obligate live food eater like a pea puffer or some loaches, you have two options:
>devote literally just as much space to growing live food as the fish itself
>buy it

I do the former. Many people opt for the latter. One pea puffer can eat 20 bladder snails a week.

>>5101410
My red root floater and azollas are my food source for my bladder snails. I just throw it on a tray to dry and crumble it into the buckets. I pull almost a half gallon off my goldfish tank every week.