It's disheartening how even genuinely intelligent people like Bob Gymlan can get caught up in the Bigfoot nonsense. They basically ignore all the evidence against and go "he's out there i just know it bro i just know it they can't keep hiding him forever"
Watch this. If you don't believe he exists after this then you're willfully putting your head in the sand. It moves with a speed that no human could rival.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYz9L_jl-0Q
>>5101511Your going to get ignored because actual intelligent people know that genuinely intelligent people don't believe in Bigfoot.That means you think stupid people are intelligent. Which means you're stupid. And intelligent people don't waste time talking to people like you
>>5101513gake and fay
>>5101511I'm 100% convinced it is an extinct species native americans had contact with and went extinct, at the most recent, around the 70's. It being alive today is retarded tho, and the paranormal explanations are even more retarded
>>5101518Where are the bones then dumbass.
>>5101529Lost. I read an article a very, very long time ago, before the Internet was common and certainly before anyone had it in their pocket, that large ape-like fossils were discovered (in Montana, I think) and lost/stolen on the way to a natural history museum opening in Philadelphia.
>>5101569Wow, no way? An ARTICLE?
>>5101571Yup. Of course, it was likely BS considering wypipo weren't really anywhere near Montana yet when the Philly natural history museum was founded in, like, 1814 or whenever. There's the story of the giants in… Winnemucca, I think the town was called? The same article mentioned local natives there once upon a time having dealt with a species of large, ape-like cannibalistic/carnivorous humanoid giants who used to hunt said natives until, according to legend, the natives discovered how to control fire, managed to shoot flaming arrows at them and drive them into a cave or well or something and burning them all alive in there. Supposedly, a single skull from this species is in the collection at a local museum in that town.
>>5101575Basically every culture on Earth at one point believed in giants, there’s nothing unique there. Bigfoot people go on and on about what the native Americans believe as if they’re infallible instead of human like the rest of us, and years of breaking sticks into trees and screaming into the woods, and still no solid evidence of bigfoot yet. There won’t ever be any because it ain’t real.
>>5101529Why would there be identifiable bones? Scavengers abound in North America and these things could potentially bury or otherwise move their dead away from well-traveled areas. With a small population and plenty of exposure to the elements, their bodies could be stripped down to the bone and the bones scattered around within a couple weeks of death. At that point I don't think anyone in a position to prove what the bones are would ever find them. Albeit the skull and teeth would break down way less easily. That's a lot harder to explain without a complex culture with well-established burial practices that are effective at hiding bodies.
>>5101516>comically low iq post
>>5101516Genuinely intelligent people believe in the abrahamic god despite his archaeological heritage and the chain of plagiarism and lying that created his holy book. Bigfoot is reasonable by comparison. Consider you have an asinine view of human intelligence. A calculator is very smart but is ignorant of all “anyone sane thinks…” consensus and “common sense” conclusions by its nature. You’re saying smart people agree with your take on an unprovable statement. And? Whats next, a sociological correlation between some fad belief and IQ (critical thinkers never pay attention to these btw)?
>>5101581That does beg the question though, who were these giants they all believed in? Its odd that belief in these giants spread to almost every culture and corner of the world yet there is no concrete information on them.
>>5101517Tell me how you fake a bipedal creature hauling ass through several feet of snow in the literal middle of nowhere. I'll wait.
>>5101529Because the fossil record is known to be 100% complete right? it's why no new extinct species has been found since the 1800's
>>5101581The thing about native americans specifically is how many times they describe what is pretty mundane ape behavior such as stealing food and throwing rocks (even kidnapping children if you take chimps into account). Again tho i think believing they are alive today is retarded. I can believe they were really good at hiding from people in the 1900's. Them still being able to hide in the world of high quality trail cams and drones is just dumb.
>>5101598Person but big is not a very creative monster
I WANT Bigfoot to be real, but I don't BELIEVE he is real, because that would be too awesome for our boring world.
>>5101610Even if it was real i don't think it would be the most impressive animal. Elephants and specially whales are a lot more unbelievable in my opinion
>>5101615Hell i don't think it would even be the biggest ape in the earth's history
>>5101655yeah that would be giantopithecus i think
>>5101511Bob Gymlan has a penchant for creative writing. He knows exactly what he’s doing. I suspect some of the “folks” that write in are actually just stories made by him. Good videos though, I like his stuff a lot.
>>5101762His videos are very enjoyable if you take them as campfire stories
>>5101582>and these things could potentially bury their deadTHEN WHERE ARE THE BONES, DUMBASS.There are no apes in NA's fossil record period. What did they evolve from?
>>5101594>Genuinely intelligent people believe in the abrahamic godno
>>5101764his shaitan one was good. at least that was based on real events even if he was just reinterpreting another guy's own words
>>5101786NTA and also don’t believe in bigfoot, but the argument is that whatever it is crossed over the Bering land bridge during the last ice age and has just existed in North America in tiny populations since. It’s still a weak argument though, and it’s gotten to the point where bigfoot kooks are starting to grasp at straws and say it’s real but it’s an alien or interdimensional being lol
>>5101819Yeah the man eater videos are the best ones. I would love one of that one tiger that killed 400+ people
bob gymlan is a schizo, a fag, and an attention whore. I'm convinced he only stumbled upon his prior mannerisms and opinions about how it's unreasonable to expect good photo quality by comparing snapshots of apes in a zoo or talking about how absolutely wild north america really is, and that he couldn't have come up with a coherent line of thought about anything of the sort if pressed. Every time he talks he throws something strange and bizarre in there, like believing bigfoot is a tarsier relative instead of an ape???? just absurd.bigfoot itself is more plausible than most people give it credit for, but bob is an idiot. Went on joe rogen, claimed he didn't believe in ghosts, then said "actually I DO here's some heckin creepy pictures I took in a hotel 25 years ago also I never liked doughnuts"
>>5101513clearly ai
>>5101921You type like a schizo. Lighten up, don’t light one up.
>>5101930Speaking casually its schizo-talk now? Did I need to make my post in proper MLA format for you to accept it?
>>5101935>I'm convinced he only stumbled upon his prior mannerisms and opinions about how it's unreasonable to expect good photo quality by comparing snapshots of apes in a zoo or talking about how absolutely wild north america really is, and that he couldn't have come up with a coherent line of thought about anything of the sort if pressed.This is pure word vomit.
>>5101923Look at the upload date retard
>>5101923Based retard
>>5101941Only if you read at a 3rd grade level.
>>5101602"its not in the fossil record" is such a bullshit hand-wavy dismissal of shit like this. MOST things are not in the fossil record.there are less than 400,000 known species we have fossils for. that sounds like a lot, and it isbut right now there are an estimated 8 million species on the planet, and by current estimations, more than 99.9% of all species that have ever lived are extinct.there are potentially millions upon millions upon millions of species that have existed on this planet we will never have traces of.
>>5101818>No....Is what I would say if I was a redditor
If bigfoot isn't real, who keeps stealing my weed?
>>5102020Which is rather sad to think about as a paleofag. I know you are out there, 40+ feet long 8+ ton abelisaur...
Bigfoot is real but it's not a flesh and blood animal. it's something closer to a fae being/spirit, but not exactly. these are just the closest things I can approximate it to. Entities like the mothman, the hopkinsville goblins, Sam the Sandown Clown, all of of a similar nature.People label these entities with things like "alien" or "fairy" or "spirit" or some such because these are the concepts we can closest liken them to, but the reality is all-together more complicated than that. they don't come from other planets or some alternate fairy-dimension through a portal or something like that, they are already here, they are from here, just in angles we cannot usually see, metaphysical blind-spots that may as well not exist to us, in the cracks and crevices of observable reality, only to pop out in specific circumstances.
>>5102024That's retarded
>>5102025spoken like someone who cannot rotate a 4 dimensional apple in their head
>>5101511Dude they got all different kinds of "bigfoot" sightings and encounters throughout history on different continents. I don't think it's far off to think humans at one point killed these fucks off and some kinda drifted for a while in places we couldn't easily access.
>>5102117It’s more likely that believing in similar supernatural shit is just a human universal, like spirits, Gods, creation stories, etc
>>5101594>Genuinely intelligent people believe in the abrahamic god despite his archaeological heritage and the chain of plagiarism and lying that created his holy bookProbably because said people understand that is a theory that comes from one book militant internet atheists parrot all the time while demonstrating they have never read the book of judges within OT.
>>5101575they eat berries and mushroomshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn1w-2bW5j4
>>5102146No way an ape of that size and sophistication can survive on only berries or mushrooms. Even Gorillas have to subsit on a wider variety of vegetation and despite being largely vegitarian they will opertunistically eat meat sources. Bigfoots would need to eat a baby or two if they existed.
>>5101518Convenient that as soon as mass surveillance is possible, the creature goes extinct.I don't think it ever existed.
>>5102138>help, militant atheists! militant round earthers! militant MMR vaccine shills! my infographics and holy books clearly state they are correct and all who deny them are doomed and evil, ye fools!
>>5102162Shit happens
I think bigfoot and dogman should fight
>>5102186Dogman doesn't exist retard
>>5102187Then who sucked my dick last night?
>>5102197Could've been anything that likes peanut butter, probably a regular dog
>>5101582Yet we have millions of bones from actually real pleistocene megafauna
>>5102020>but right now there are an estimated 8 million species on the planetA quarter of which are weevils
>>5102332Total weevil supremacy
>>5101511Boohoo nigger, cry about it on plebbit.
>>5101511Intelligence is not the same as Wisdom.Intelligent people can be even more deluded because they can't fathom the idea of them being played.
>>5102331You should try reading the post you replied to again, slowly this time. Be sure to look up any words you're not 100% certain you understand.
>>5102349https://youtu.be/2bEZQ00OOxY?si=YHcGeLlTCP8ybEQe
>>5102022Wadiyatalkinabeet?
>>5102024>>5102024this post is a prime example of how true believers cope with the fact that nobody has collected any better photo or video evidence of any cryptid than the patterson gimlin film since everyone on the planet gained access to an HD camera in their pocket every minute of every day
>>5102728I think the mythology change from bigfoot being a big intelligent ape, to a 4th dimensional sci-fi entity, is in large part because of the argument of surveillance is so strong. If we are already given that bigfoot is real, but somehow we can't see him even when people are filming him right up his nostril, then surely he has to be some kind of ghost or Lovecraftian entity, or angel, or his fur can activate a cloaking field- why else can't we see what objectively exists; bigfoot.I enjoyed the Bigfoot story in earlier years the same way I enjoyed Nessie, but I think the desperation in needing evidence for true believers and justifying its absence has kinda stretched the myth to absurdity. I think by the time people say bigfoot's a native american angel, shit's gone too far. I miss when he was a big horny ape in the forest who jerked off to scaring campers.
>>5102730People like to believe in cryptids, especially bigfoot, so that they can populate the known world with monsters to make it less knowable. It adds a bit of mystery to their lives and gives a sense of purpose in trying to find them. Before smartphones, cheap drones, trail cameras etc. it was still conceivable that there could be a giant ape man living in the woods that was just smart enough to avoid us, but now people who still believe have to cope with theories that bigfoot is an interdimensional shapeshifter, because they don't want to live in a world where everything is mapped out, quantified and known. There is a certain existential dread to knowing that the big mysteries from your childhood don't exist, that the only mysteries that remain are boring scientific or medical ones.
>>5102730>>5102840I recommend reading Brian Regal's book "Searching for the Sasquatch", he's an anthropologist who is also a kind of Fox Mulder "I want to believe" type and the book is a mix of a history of bigfoot research and a biography of Grover Krantz, who was probably the most famous scientist who really got into bigfoot research.
>>5102728>>5102730>>5102840Government and all of academia doesn't believe there are mountain lions in my home town, but us locals see em all the time. If you show a video of one, it's dismissed as a regular house cat or similar. You know what else? Our cameras are awful. Takes a long time to get the phone out and despite all the "advances" with making the cameras better/higher res/whatever, they still never focus on what you want and are grainy out past a dozen feet. Not to mention all the "assistance" the cameras "provide" that mess up the picture. Beyond that, people underestimate the sheer amount of unoccupied land that there is in the united states. The vast majority of it has nobody around for miles, and there are certainly hundreds of stretches that nobody has EVER been in, even to this day. We might grumble and moan about living in a surveillance state but we simply do not have the wilderness on lockdown like so many people erroneously believe.I mean, I get it, this doesn't prove sasquatch is real. Obviously. But using this idea of "hurr durr everyone has a camera in their pocket now!!!" is just stupid. it's not a good argument, and I don't know why it keeps getting parroted.
>>5102187People seriously going on podcasts and talking about how they saw a fucking werewolf is one of the most laughable things i have seen in a while
>>5102898I suspect there's something psychological happening. People all across the world imprint on dogs and see them everywhere, including in people. There's werewolves, but there's also cynocephali. Not to mention furries and their love of wolves. Egyptians, you know, anubis. All sorts of things. It's probably something deeply human to focus on the head and substitute it with something else you know or care about, kind of like how snakes and spiders are something we can all recognize instinctively instead of having to learn about them. Sorta the same deal imo.
>check up bigfoot reddit because want to check if there are real believers>some thread about petterson-gimlin video>"it's physically impossible for a human to walk like that">"if a suit that good existed then hollywood would have paid millions for it">"you can see the muscles moving"lol. no idea why people are invested either.
>>5102905Every "werewolf" sighting ever is just an unshorn Armenian woman. Those are some hairy, hairy bitches.
>>5102922>>"if a suit that good existed then hollywood would have paid millions for it"this one's true though, a suit of that quality would have been insanely expensive at the time.
>>5103139space odyssey monkey looks better
>>5103143You're being disingenuous from multiple angles.
>>5103145making a suit with fur on isn't some secret technology that didn't exist back then
>>5103146
>>5101511>>5101516There is more evidence in favor of Bigfoot than against, at this point. The anti-Bigfoot folks are the unintelligent ones that just push goal posts and "nuh uh" no matter what. >>5101513Posts like that are good, it's not a human dong that. One can't even get a human down there. They're walking straight up a mountain side. We keep seeing this same thing.
>>5102922They're invested because humans want the truth and don't want to be lied to/BSd anymore.
>>5103156there's just a few schizos who have it as their hobbywe already have gorillas who cares
>>5103139Hollywood was making better gorilla suits decades earlier you moron. The P-G suit doesn't even have textured soles.
>>5103165They're just flat slabs of latex.
>>5101511>NOOOOOO There are people that believe things I don't believe
>>5103165>>5103166Do you have a comparison shot from a contemporary camera? Also can you tell me how much that suit cost at the time? Because I said it was expensive, not unable to be created. I feel adding these supporting details would help your argument greatly, presuming they actually agreed with your stance. Thanks in advance.
>>5103166Look at these flat slabs of latex on this obvious human suit here
>>5103159It's fascinating from the point of discussing human origins and what a human really is.
>>5103159>we already have gorillas who cares"why do white people climb mount everest" type post
>>5103172I can clearly make out toes, arches, and heels here dumbass.
>>5101598Because Neanderthals were real and did interact with humans. What's crazy is people act like all these stories of cultures all over the world talking about giants and mysterious super humans teaching people about technology and interbreeding with them is some crazy mystery. When we know that Neanderthals were bigger than humans, had more advanced tech before humans and interbred with humans.
>>5101923This is why aliens and big foots aren't worried about recorded footage.Only a brief window of time in our history will recorded footage be seen as reliable proof of anything. Thanks AI. Thanks India.
>>5103199on a closer shot using a camera that's easily 100x the resolution, mind you
Why has no one recreated the PG film using technology from the 70's?
>>5103207Weren't neanderthals shorter than humans? i guess they were bulkier so i could see their size getting exaggerated over the years
>>5103207>were bigger than humansonly in weight and girth. they were usually shorter than us
>>5103351>>5103352seems they were like 10cm shorter but still weighed like 10kg moredefinitely no giants but they were quite a bit stronger
>>5103362unfortunately that additional mass also means additional calories needed. and that's one of the reasons theorized why they died out; their caloric requirements were much more than ours and they couldn't weather times when food was scarce like we could
>>5103391yeah supposedly the needed twice the calories. so basically homo sapiens could sustain twice the population on same resources.
>>5102896>But using this idea of "hurr durr everyone has a camera in their pocket now!!!" is just stupid. it's not a good argument, and I don't know why it keeps getting parroted.Because the average person thinks it's that easy, whip out the phone and press play so you can record the animal that probably already noticed you before you noticed it and is making a b-line for the exit. It's like when you're hiking up a trail and hear sudden rustling noises and catch a brief glimpse of a Deer running from you, likely the same reason why some of the best Bigfoot footage we have is of them already far away trying to get away from us. Even a Bear will avoid a human.BUT the average person is also equally as dismissive at the times we do get decent photos and recordings of a Sasquatch. So it always ends up being "Why haven't we gotten better photo evidence of a Sasquatch when everyone has phones" and then call whatever modern photo you show them a fake. The average person is probably thinking of high quality camera pics from advertisements and documentaries and equating that to a normal iphone photo, not understanding that even movies that use iphones as cameras still has some other tech strapped onto it to make it better and that picture of a bear was taken professionally and worked to be more clear>Government and all of academia doesn't believe there are mountain lions in my home town, but us locals see em all the timeI've heard varying reasons for the denial, 1 being that the mountain lions haven't officially migrated back to old territory or that said Academia and Government doesn't want anyone shooting them thus messing up the population. Could also be Lumber corps not wanting to deal with animal habitation rights
>>5103418>call whatever modern photo you show them a fake.Because it most likely is. The onus is on you to show it's not.
>they is out there mane why hasnt no one ever debunked it huh
>>5103418>Even a Bear will avoid a human.And yet we have photos, crisp and clear, of bears. The illusive, solitary, and predatory bear is documented on all manner of cameras, and most people will accept the existence of bears because we can document their existence for hundreds of years. Dragons went away, werewolves went away, but bears didn't go away. You probably know someone who once saw a bear, and you've probably seen a video of someone who had a bear in their yard fucking around, and if you're outdoorsy at all you've likely seen prints, poop, and even heard bears, or you've seen the aftermath of a bear attack. There are people whose entire profession is managing bears.Yet when Billy Bob says a yeti came and fucked his dog to death and drank all his moonshine before stealing his truck, and running into a police cruiser; that motherfucker somehow had time to paint the bastard with water colours but not snap a picture of it on his phone which adequately captures images with enough detail to make out what something is. Just say he's an alien with cloaking tech that is observing humanity as a wildlife reserve and skip all the justification. There are so many wonderful things in this world, and there are people trying to justify why an upright ape is actually a ghost and that's why he's everywhere all at once but you can never see him.
>>5103421>here's a photo or video we provide as evidence.<Ah but you need to prove it's real>There's no evidence of artifacting from editing or AI use and <the timeline checks out<Then it's a man in a suit.>You can't prove it's a man in a suit<You always have to assume it is.>>>redditspaceThis is the issue we run into, here. It's actually a very understandable one because it comes from 2 separate problems.>1.) Thinking "evidence" is "proof".We have a LOT of evidence for sasquatch being real. We also have a lot of evidence of hoaxes. Neither conclusively proves a stance. Evidence is what you bring forward to support your argument, it is not a smoking gun that solves the problem. We need either a body or live specimen to be reviewed by many different people independently accepting it to prove it's true, and until we get that, it can't be proven. A photo never will prove it. So we're arguing what the evidence shows. This leans into the next point.>2.) If something can't be proven, you have to assume it's wrong.This is good for theoretical physics, not so much census. You can't simply assume there are no birds in the forest behind your house just because you can't see them. You can't also then claim that there are for certain birds right then right there, of course, but... well you see.>Conclusion.) Bigfoot skeptics will often fall into the fallacy of claiming any evidence is fake simply because it isn't conclusive.It's perfectly fine to be skeptical of bigfoot, because we have no conclusive evidence he exists. But it's NOT fine to claim ALL evidence is categorically fake because it's POSSIBLE for it to be fake. You can point to individual photos and say "I think this is fake because of x, y, z" but one does not need to prove any given picture is real for it to be presented as evidence, and just because a photo or video could hypothetically be faked does not mean it was.
>>5103429>We have a LOT of evidence for sasquatch being real.the "evidence" is so fucking bad
>>5103426gorillas were only verified in the scientific literature a little over a hundred and fifty years ago, in 1847. We have had stories of them for thousands of years (just like sasquatch - why is it that gorillas are "well-attested" but sasquatch stories are "clearly myth alone" or similar?) 180 years is not that long of a span of time for there to be a discrepancy in discovery. North America has plenty of hazardous places that no man has ever set foot in and the common belief that most of the world has been logged in a census and that we have accurate information about it. It's simply not true.>Yet when Billy Bob says a yeti came and fucked his dog to death and drank all his moonshineyou're not interested in actually intellectually engaging with the idea. Conflating obvious malarkey with reasonable testimony is ridiculous. There's been stories of gorillas speaking a language or stealing and raping women. Hell, the romans were told they were animals by their guides and then claimed they were people. Here's a more concrete example: You know that story about dingoes eating a woman's baby? How it was fake, but most people believe it? It's silly to accept every single testimony as being equivalent to one another simply because of the subject matter. I mean seriously dude, do you think that everyone in this thread is all-in on sasquatch, what, esotericism? No, I think there's a funny ape that's afraid of people and is just smart enough to stay far away from us, maybe takes their dead for good measure. I think that's not that far-fetched. Could it be wrong? Sure! Could it be right? Yes, it could be true. We don't know yet. But we DO get a lot of videos and photos and reports and claims of them every year, more than most any cryptid, and some of them seem pretty compelling. So we'll just have to see. Isn't that reasonable? Doesn't that sound level-headed and a simple difference of opinion instead of some crackpot theory?
>>5103430Let's start with this one:>>5101513I haven't seen it before entering this thread. I haven't done any research on it. Tell me why you think it's bad evidence. I don't mind if there's something obvious I'm missing on a cursory view, this is just a start. Go ahead.
>>5103438wow there's a pixel moving
>>5103439look if you're going to be disingenuous you can just go ahead and call me a flat earther or something
>>5103440look, no one cares about debunking this shityou guys go crazy about any literal garbage footage so there's a lot of incentive to fake it for attention
>>5103434Firstly>You're arguing in bad faithYes, I am exaggerating because actual evidence is>"We were walking down the trail, when we saw what looked like a really tall chimp, and it looked at us, and it walked away on two legs into the forest. No we did not do drugs, no we do not have a history in faking things for fame and fortune."Which, alright, that's one pip in the "Exists" category, but that doesn't make up for the mountains of evidence for "Against" category ranging from poop, scent, mapping of territory, fossil history, demographic placement, and so on and so on. It's not on the same level of equivalency, at all. Even if Billy Bob never existed, and we both know there's a million of that type of person contaminating any 'serious' discussion, then we're not tossing a coin; the evidence is overwhelmingly 'against'.>GorillasAlright, gorillas is a good example. But would-be explorers weren't lost for clue, they knew of a thing called X, in location Y, according to bumpkins in location Z. If you went and talked to the relevant people, the relevant experts, they could indeed confirm that gorillas existed. So lo and behold when you go to Y you find X, and you dispel rumours at home for glorious western science. But gorillas weren't an unknown quantity to the locals, it's not that one guy in Gorilla Gorge was swearing gorillas existed while all his friends and family thought he'd been hitting the juice too hard. It was unknown to the scientific community of Europe, an obscene distance away in a world where phones did not yet exist. That's different from the year 2026 when you can contact an expert within seconds of looking them up on an information field that covers the entire planet, give or take.>DingoDingos existing was not in dispute. Dingos eating human remains was not in dispute. Dingos conceptually eating a child was in dispute. The story is most relevant because of the legal dispute of whether a dingo ate this specific baby.wordcountgoodnight
>>5103429><Ah but you need to prove it's real...are you brain-damaged? The burden of proof is on YOU. You are the one that needs to prove your faggoty image is an actual real bigfoot. As the tech for faking shit continues to get better by the month, the probability that something is fake only goes up.Didn't read the rest of your gay post.
>>5103426>And yet we have photos, crisp and clear, of bearsWe have a nice crisp and clear photo of a Skunk Ape, video footage of a Sasquatch carrying it's young, footage of a Bigfoot shaking and breaking down a tree, etc etc>Yet when Billy Bob says a yeti came and fucked his dog to death and-But that doesn't matter because you'll just say it's a fake and be done with it
The fun thing about real things is that its not about believing. Either you know about it, or you don't.But imagine trying to argue with urbanites that couldnt tell a hawk from a kite whats out in true wilderness. kek
>>5103446Cute photo
>>51034941\7
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>>51035044\7>>51034465\7 oops adupe
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>>51035097\7lions, aka squat bigfoot
>>5103510thats clearly a guy in a catsuityou can even see the zipper
>>5103528No that's me in a catsuit and I'm a bigfoot, you can see my big feet where better pornography and naughty films are sold.
>>5103452why did you not understand what he said? The photo isn't the proof, it's evidence. You don't need evidence to unanimously prove the quandary it's providing proof for. Like, you're in a courtroom, a guy pulls out a gun, says here you see it has gunpowder residue showing it was shot, it was found in this room. This is evidence a shooting occured in that room. It doesn't prove that it happened, it's just evidence. Because that's what evidence is lol
>>5103539Oh my god it's fucking real
>>5103438>>5103440>>5101513Brother, it's literally just a guy walking around in the distance. You can't see what it is because it's miles away and there's zero reason to believe it's anything but a human. All the effort people have gone to in order to fake shit like this and you really can't believe someone could walk around in the mountains? This is why no one takes you guys seriously; you're so desperate to believe that you'll accept the absolute flimsiest "evidence" as concrete proof.>Tell me why you think it's bad evidence.How about you tell me why I should believe that video is anything other than a person?The real nail in the coffin of this and other supposed wildlife cryptos is the existence of remote cameras. There are countless game cameras set up all over the country in all sort of remote locations, stuck up on a tree and filming 24/7. If anything were out there, not just bigfoot but any of the other shit supposedly running around in the woods, we'd have very clear footage of it by now.The only attempted cope I've ever seen is nonsense claims like>oh well bigfoot and other cryptos are all hyper sensitive to electromagnetic fields and can tell exactly where a tail cam is and where it's pointing and they make sure to avoid ever being filmed because they're all also super intelligent and fully understand what a camera is and why it would be a bad idea to let themselves be filmed (i guess they've also learned a lot of human society while hiding in the woods)
>>5102896>The vast majority of it has nobody around for miles, and there are certainly hundreds of stretches that nobody has EVER been in, even to this day.The reason why old growth forests don't exist in the U.S. outside of a few tiny isolated areas in the Northwest is because literally every inch of the country has not just been explored but has had all of the trees cut down. Not only have people been to those "hundreds of stretches:, they've been there and cut down every tree in sight.
>>5103539The biggest tell it's fake is the fact it has no butt cheeks, just a completely blank pad.
>>5103582>and there's zero reason to believe it's anything but a human. All the effort people have gone to in order to fake shit like thisso you're assuming it's illegitimate because it's possible for it to be illegitimate. Even though based on the context it makes 0 sense for a person to be there or even be able to be there and do what it does.>>5103583>The reason why old growth forests don't exist in the U.S. outside of a few tiny isolated areas in the Northwest iwtf are you talking about 45% of the US is entirely uninhabited, dude. And that's "entirely", as in not counting transit routes. That's a lot of land.>>5103590see here's something that's a legitimate argument. There's nothing that can be said as a counter other than "maybe squatch doesn't have prominent buttcheeks or something" which would be pretty weird, admittedly, for a biped especially.
>>5103582Bigfoots are angels, and angels HATE cameras. This is a well-known angel fact. Also, pointing the tail camera anywhere but the tail is breaking TOS.
What if aliens are hiding them from us? What if they’re on some hidden alien-run preserve?
>guy literally lived off making bigfoot books and newsletters>"why would he fake it"lol
>>5103590gorilla
>>5103626Who are you referring to
>>5103653
>doesn't believe in bigfoot
>>5103654Did he write anything else prior to the film?
>>5103597>wtf are you talking about 45% of the US is entirely uninhabitedIt may be now but it hasn't always been. What you're suggesting is that people came though an area, clear cut it, and the area was mysteriously repopulated by bigfoots afterwards. I can see that this is new information for you so I'd suggest you go look up the definition of "old growth forest", which areas of the U.S. qualify as such, and why those forests are so small and few in number.>so you're assuming it's illegitimate because it's possible for it to be illegitimate.I'm assuming it's illegitimate because there's no reason for it to be legitimate. I'm sure you've heard this before but it's said that exceptional claims require exceptional evidence. If I see a video of a man walking in the distance then I'll assume that's what it is unless I'm given a compelling reason to believe otherwise.>Even though based on the contextWhich context is that?>it makes 0 sense for a person to be there or even be able to be thereYour explanation for the two guys filming? Does it not make 0 sense for them to be there or even be able to be there?>and do what it does.What is it doing, exactly, aside from walking at around 4 mph?
>>5101511>all the evidence againstsuch as?
>it was pitch dark but these eyes ain't lying i know what i saw and i tell you he's out there and why has no one replicated the suit?
>>5103672>What is it doing, exactly, aside from walking at around 4 mph?Go watch it again. Take note of how much ground is covered in under 3 minutes. There's 3 feet of snow MINIMUM in that ravine. Not even the most experienced hiker is flying through that fast. Not to mention all the gear he probably has on.
I've seen itwith me own eyes
>>5103659NTA but another thing about that book is that there was a depiction of the creature drawn in the book with female breasts, just like Patty in the film, which believers point to and say “why would someone take the time to make breasts on an ape costume?” well, we know he already conceived of the idea beforehand, and also maybe he was just a weird perv
>>5101511First of all, how do we even know that Bigfoot is a hominid? Maybe it evolved from canines or felines.
>>5103752Because it is very clearly described as an ape and there is no precedence for those animals becoming bipeds
>>5103751This can also just be interpreted as the females indeed having breasts.
>>5103734>he he heNew anon, just watched the film.I dont think the black dot is bipedal at all.I think it is something like an elk that is just walking away from the camera, so you never get a good look at how long it is, and mistake that length for height.
>>5102896Actual biology academic here, the reason you are not. "believed" isn't because we don't think they are there, It's that proving it takes a lot of time and effort and most importantly money. We don't do research pro bono, and often have to pay our own travel costs. One thing most people don't realize is universities and employers are greedy fucking bastards and will only ever hand out research grants if they get something out of it. And monitoring animal range growth and contraction isn't glamorous or prestigious, and the risk that the photos of Wolves or Cougars are just strays makes it incredibly hard to justify to them. You are right in that cameras in the vast majority of cases are unreliable, but in the case of Bigfoot if it was indeed an animal you would expect there to be so many sightings and photographs that it would be hard to ignore the sheer amount of proposed photos of it. Think of it like this, how many Americans annually hike in the wilderness or national parks and encounter a deer, bear elk ext? Over the entire country, now imagine the same for a large 6-12ft bipedal ape and the fact most people have at phone to at least take a low quality photo of it. Since its a Bigfoot most of them will probably be inclined to post it to social media. at the same if not higher rate than people post photos of more well known animals like bears and deer.You don't see that same pattern.
>>5103680>why has no one replicated the suit?That is a good question tho. I don't even believe in bigfoot but why hasn't anyone recreated the PG film to get bigfoot people to shut the fuck up?
>>5103964Being unable to find bigfoot is like being unable to find hill folk… and not dieThe only plausible explanation is that bigfoot is a recently derived human. Homo sapiens: electric boogaloo. And we can remain hidden for our entire lives by killing those who find us and being just a guy in the distance otherwise. Scat, bones, and hair would all be undeniably human. Maybe ugly and mistaken for old native american men.
>>5103968>Bigfoot can be mistaken for an ugly manAt that point what separates him from just being any old coot in the woods?>Bigfoot kills all witnessesClearly he doesn't because people keep finding the guy in the woods and posting vlogs about it.
>>5103968>we
>someone saw a big monkey in the woods>it was completely bipedal, highly aware, and clearly intelligent>it had no tail and a humanlike gait>according to them it actively tries not to be seen>dna found in streams was human>hair was human mixed with other animals (what animal wears other animals skin and hair? does anyone know?)>only alleged audio recording just sounds like burly inuit men shouting, hoax or not>best alleged footage looks like a 7ft tall (carnivore diet chad) fur clad man who is a very, very experienced snowshoerBigfoot fags have just been seeing things ranging from the last of the reclusive ultra inbred injuns to unshaven homeless men wearing fursHomo sapiens is the only primate to ever inhabit north america. Migrations range from 300 years to 130,000 years ago. There are human today who go their entire lives in the woods rarely being seen by others, and there is no reason to doubt there ever weren’t before.
>>5103970>At that point what separates him from just being any old coot in the woods?Absolutely fucking nothing because humans couldn’t possibly speciate in 130k years. At no point has bigfoot been distinguishable from a hobo. It is unidentified people. Maybe there was a small tribe of ridiculously hairy people but remember, humans often wear fur. Bigfoot is real, but “bigfoot” isn’t real, it’s just misidentified forest vagrants and native americans and has been for as long as people have been telling stories about wildmen. There is literally only one intelligent, bipedal primate that is capable of actively avoiding discovery and every photo taken of it clearly shows a man wearing furs.
>>5103967why should anyone care about convincing some irrelevant retards?
>>5101511Wait, so there's guy who's in to bigfoot that has a phonetically identical name to bob Gimlin of the Patterson-Gimlin film? What are the chances?
>>5103797wasn't it walking left-right at first?
>>5103977It's a guy on youtube who just named his channel that, retard.
>>5103977I think he said that his name made him interested in the film because of the similarity to his own, and I think that makes some sense
>>5103976It would be funny to see their cope
>>5101511what a cry baby
>>5103996Yes he is indeed a baby
>>5103998What the fuck i apologize, i am too sleepy and thought i was on the Punch thread
>>5103979There was no point in that vid that had me convinced it could NOT be a quadruped.But let's assume it was.The other "salient fact" is "what is that guy doing way out there?"Well...what were the people filming doing way out there?If THEY were there, I dont see why it would be strange at all for a human to be there.
>>5104045I was trying to find the exact peak there were on to see if they were on a trail but I can't understand what he says "Try penny peak"? or something. If they were on some sort of unofficial trail it would be far more reasonable, imo, because then the difference would be a designated walking path vs a hostile snowbank, like being in the middle of a river vs on its side. But, sadly, I couldn't figure that out. Strange that there's no coords provided.
>>5104048Coords would be a pretty big influencer on my skepticism. I'm more likely to accept an unknown hominid in the Himalayas than I am in the Rockies.And really the issue is accepting this as proof of Bigfoot suddenly means the guy in Mobile Alabama thinks he is vindicated he saw Bigfoot down by the gas station.I mean, if this is Colorado, I'm going to need something to push me past>schizo who decided to leave society and had the skills to survive and thus reasonably chose a place way out in the fuck of nowhere in the mountains - wearing a lot of furs and snow shoes
>>5103590Could be that their hair is shaggier than a gorilla's and thus it covers the cheeks
>>5103964>Actual biology academic here,>doesn't know about DNAmakes me laugh every time
Bigfoot isn't real but I wish he was. I wish I could go chill with one in the woods and wordlessly share a handful of berries at a lakeside.
Imagine not KNOWING bigfoot is real in the year 2026
>>5104463I know right? Only an npc would still doubt bigfoot's existence at this point.
>>5104329>go hiking/camping in squash area>leave some fruit, nuts, jerky or similar on a stump>tell them its a gift >come by on the way outif one of them took it, you'll likely find a nice rogg, feather or something similar where you left the food. take it and say thanks. dont do this where you live, unless you want it to become a mandatory obligation. theyll see it as a kind of contract and can get salty if you stop
>>5105008It's very creepy how close this folklore is to ape behavior. It is advised to not give them food because they will never have enough and will keep asking for it, and, when you don't have any food left, they get violent
>>5105025you know there’s only ever been one ape in north america, right? homo sapiens
>>5105027When did i say that is not the case
>>5101511His early videos on Bigfoot were really interesting, now he seems to be making stuff up and struggling to find content.
>>5105246youtubers doing anything "mystery" related often end up like that
>>5105246He now believes in paranormal bigfoot which is fucking retarded and has made me lose interest in his videos
>>5105246He's always done non-bigfoot videos but they were sparse and in between but Bob's since gone through the more interesting and credible Bigfoot topics so he's veering into more topics about Aliens, Animal attacks and Ghosts>Whole video about how Chris Watt's Pregnant Wife and Children he murdered are possibly haunting the house they lived in
>>5105319>Whole video about how Chris Watt's Pregnant Wife and Children he murdered are possibly haunting the house they lived inHoly shit that one was terrible. Easily his worst video yet
>>5105327why are you even watching this shit in the first place?
>>5105333Are you an insect? Entertainment is viewed for entertainment purposes. It's no different from watching a film, reading a book, or more accurately, listening to an audiobook. Don't tell me mystery or paranormal stories haven't been popular for centuries.
>>5105345>"i hate this garbage slop">*watches it*
>>5105348I'm not him, I'm just commenting on your dumb statement. whe he LITERALLY said was>That was terrible>His worst video yetThat means this was his least favorite video that gymlan had made. That doesn't mean he thinks the rest of the videos are ALL bad. In fact, even if he hasn't liked several recent ones, if he had been enjoying the others for years it makes sense to keep watching to see if any new ones are good for a while. This is something we in the industry call "normal human behavior".
>>5103744The virgin walk vs the chad stride...
>>5105349all his videos suck
>>5105351Your opinion on the videos is completely irrelevant to the point either of us were making, Sally-Anne.
>>5105319>through the more interesting and credible Bigfoot topicsI did a whole bunch of research about bigfoot for a youtuber to cover (he never ended up doing it, fuck him) and there actually isn't a lot of content to cover. Yeah there are tons of stories of "I saw a big thing in the woods" but actual interesting stories or photos are minimal. I even purposely looked for the wacky paranormal shit and there isn't a lot of that either.My conclusion after all of it is that bigfoot isn't real, it's a cultural icon that was created in the 1950s around the time gorillas and the yeti were a popular thing in movies and comics. Native Americans didn't actually have mythology about bigfoot but they assimilated it and then bigfootologists used it as proof (citogenesis). Keep in mind these tribal elders were little kids when bigfoot and the yeti and all this shit were everywhere in media and pop culture.
>>5105333I enjoy his videos on animals
>>5105355>Native Americans didn't actually have mythology about bigfoot but they assimilated it and then bigfootologists used it as proof (citogenesis).a lot of native americans do have stories of things that are kinda-sorta bigfoot-esque though, a slant rhyme type deal. But they could easily be derived from simple "enemy tribe bad, they like animal! they animal man! don't go outside at night unless you want be raped and eaten by big scary animal men!" stories.
>>5101511I hope you non believer faggots never have to come face to face with one of these things
>>5105360>stories of things that are kinda-sorta bigfoot-esque thoughYeah but with the same logic you can say bigfoot exists in Europe because of wildmen myths like pic rel. It isn't exactly that hard to come up with "human, but hairy". The actual first story that was more ape than man was the William Roe encounter in 1955 Trey the explainer has a good video about it I'll admit, but he's a tranny and does that condescending MUH POOR INDIGENOUS FOLX MUH CULTURAL APROPRIATION spiel
>>5105365God Trey is so fucking insufferable
>>5105365that's kinda what I said right after, where it's easily pulled from vagueries. Not like europe doesn't also have bigfoot-type "cryptids" all the same, even if they're only retroactively applied to sasquatch tendencies. You know, like the almas.
I mean, if bigfoot ever existed, it sure as fuck don't now. If it ain't getting no bigfootussy there ain't gonna be no littlefoot
>>5105389Can you type that again but in english?
>>5105360If Bigfoot is real I wouldn't be surprised if Native American's viewed Bigfoot as just another tribe of men and treated them as such
>>5105604I coudl see that. If we assume what is said about bigfoot is accurate and the alleged video and photo evidence is real then the thing looks more like a big Australopithecus than any ape we have today. I could see someone not informed in primatology assuming they are just hairy humans.
>>5105365Treys video in 'the native bigfoot' was horseshit because he'd keep going "hm hm hrm, in THIS story, the sasquatch TALKS, so it must not be about a sasquatch, actually"as if talking animals aren't a staple in folklore.it's like going "well in this "Goldilocks and the three bears" story, the bears talk and live in a houses. obviously bears don't talk or live in houses, so the creatures in this story must not be bears but some mythical made-up creature in their folklore."
>>5105745Trey being retarded as usual
>>5101511Bigfoot hands wrote this post.I just know, ya know.
>>5105604that's kind of how west africans viewed gorillas. heck even romans called them humans.
>>5105604They didn't, they considered them to be spirits or some kind of hidden folk.
>>5105818Are his hands big too?What about his... you know...
>>5105926Considering the other large apes we have today, i'm afraid not
>>5105924>Native Americans thought the big hairy ape thing that deliberately keeps it's distance was some sort of Hidden Folk spirit thingMan likes to explain animals as something else when they don't understand what the animal is
It's just hairy joggers you buffoons
>>5105927Careful anon the bbc meme is holding together the ego of an entire raceI dont think they could take it if the truth got out
>>5106286I wish i had that condition
why are these threads always filled with the most hostile people, and why are they always on the anti-squatch side?
>>5107731I don't know how in this type of discussion it is the fags that believe in a giant hairy ape man that sound more reasonable
>>5107731>>5107734SasquatchFags, the one's who don't think Sasquatch is a supernatural paranormal alien thing at least, are just trying to prove the plausibility of the cryptid and that involves a lot of studying up on Animal behavior, DNA, Folklore from around the world involving ape-like creatures and any sort of photo or video evidence that needs to be scrutinized before being considered decent evidence of "something" for the Sasquatchfag to cover his bases and have an honest discussionThe Anti-Squatchfag already dismissed the idea of a Sasquatch and doesn't care. They're not going to take the discussion serious because they're not interested. I won't say that the Anti-Squatchfag doesn't have his own compelling arguments, obviously they'd know just as much as the SasquatchFag does if not more but considering how this threads been going at least the Squatchfag doesn't immediately resort to condescending behavior when they don't insta-win the argument
Guys you will not believe what just happened it is so fucking over for the Patterson-Gimlin filmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBuWLe1MC_A
>>5109648Well with this video confirmed fake i now lower my date for when sasquatch went extinct to the 1800's at the most recent.Can't wait to see how Bob will react to this.
>>5103537>>5103539Funny thing is, if I cross my eyes a bit it looks just like a regular dude with a jacket and a backpack.
>>5107751>but considering how this threads been going at least the Squatchfag doesn't immediately resort to condescending behavior when they don't insta-win the argumentthis wouldn't happen if bigfootfags didn't spend years coping and moving the goalposts and coming up with more and more contrived theories as to why we can never quite get the smoking gun on its existence.for a normal rational sane person that knows anything about megafauna, they should be able to discern that from a dearth of evidence of bigfoot dwellings, bigfoot shit, and bigfoot carcass remains that it is highly improbable that it exists (especially in this age of phones and drones everywhere). didn't say didn't exist but highly improbable. it's up to the bigfootfags to provide proof but given how they've been slowly descending into pure retardation in the past quarter century, it's not looking good for them.
>>5109648>>5109649If this is actually true, since there's zero pictures of this supposed smoking gun, then could Patty be considered the longest running hoax in history?
>>5109694just wait for the doc to hit the torrents, i'm sure someone will make a thread here for it
>>5109648I haven't watched the video but why do we care about this specific fag compared to everyone else who's debunked it in the past?
>>5109692"moving the goalposts" = "here's a bunch of evidence of varying quality, I believe some of it and not others, here's some theories on why it's not found"most people simply think "america's a big place, I could believe we still haven't found something that big if it's even just a little smart" and that's reasonable and not "moving the goalposts" or "coping".You're free to disbelieve sasquatch but lumping everyone who has a take on it together is really silly and frankly disingenuous. I mean have you seen some of the people even just in this thread? Some believe sasquatch is a demon with time travel powers, some believe it's a big monkey that's good at hiding, some think there may have been an animal that inspired the myths that's long extinct, some suggest it's simply an easy thing to believe even though it's fully false, and some believe there's a full conspiracy to INSIGHT belief in the funny hairy fella. Don't be daft.
>>5109776Footage of the documentary was shown to some die-hard bigfoot truthers like Jeff Meldrum and they admitted defeat after seeing it.
>>5109777That anon is probably talking about the paranormal bigfoot retards. But even a large portion of bigfoot believers thinks they are retarded.
>>5109777>>5109787But of course, he is acting as if all bigfoot believers were one person because he himself is retarded.
>>5109777>"america's a big place, I could believe we still haven't found something that big if it's even just a little smart"america is big but it's not that big. we have a very good compendium on the few megafauna species that still exist here. but for bigfoot we just can't ascertain anything because...uh...>Some believe sasquatch is a demon with time travel powers, some believe it's a big monkey that's good at hidingthese are the retards that are getting the most exposure on mainstream media and youtube so don't get upset when they're the face of the movement
>>5109788nah eat shit man. i'm getting sick and tired of you bumbling retards only having shitty blurry photos of some figure in the distance and going "bro it could be him...bro stop being hostile it could be him!" and then you have the gall to play the victim. as i said before we're in the age of phones and drones and evidence couldn't be more scant. gee hmm i wonder why! and now that AI is in full swing which has made it easier than ever to fake shit, it's going to be even more likely that we're flooded with bullshit "LOOK IT'S BIGFOOT" nonsense videos that boomers will eat up and continue to fuel the fire of bullshit.you all did this to yourselves. fuck you. i can't wait for this sxsw doc to come out and hopefully shut up the majority of you for good.
>>5109790Proving the current discussion right
>>5109789you somehow managed to successfully lump the crazy people with people who think sasquatch is just gorilla 2 electric boogaloo again. lol.
>>5109790>and now that AI is in full swing which has made it easier than ever to fake shit, it's going to be even more likely that we're flooded with bullshit "LOOK IT'S BIGFOOT" nonsense videos that boomers will eat up and continue to fuel the fire of bullshit....so bigfoot doesn't exist because it's easy to fake video of bigfoot...???
>>5109794NTA but that’s not what he said at all
>>5109794never said that. disingenuous faggotry like this is why you're all a laughing stock.
Bigfoot community is in a full blown meltdown. They director of the new documentary is being called a grifter and actively threatened. The Youtuber who did a video on the doc, a guy who's been in the community for a decade, is being called a liar. I think that's some people aren't aware about the Sasquatch community, they have a near religious fervor for it.
>>5109796>>5109798>nah eat shit man. i'm getting sick and tired of you bumbling retards only having shitty blurry photos of some figure in the distance and going "bro it could be him...bro stop being hostile it could be him!" and then you have the gall to play the victim.Evidence presented. Response: "It's fake."Voluntary elaboration: "Now we have ais so you can keep making more fake evidence."This stance is just really silly. Presupposition that all evidence is fake is the crux here.
>>5109812What evidence exactly? This film is now looking like it’s proven to be a hoax, all you have left are footprint casts and even less convincing videos. All the other anon was saying is that now with AI there’s gonna be even more god awful slop being churned out to desperately keep the flame alive. Bigfoot is a billion dollar industry where dumbshits sell sasquatch branded t shirts, dad hats, coffee mugs, bumper stickers, podcast subscriptions and other garbage to even bigger dumbshits. A lot of people are gonna be real salty once that gravy train ends.
>>5109692>moving the goalpostsMoving the goalposts would be me saying that Bigfoot is an interdimensional demon alien thing when at best Bigfoot is either extinct, on the steady decline, or doesn't actually live in the spots most sighted and is just using those areas as hunting grounds Bigfoot is a cryptid so it's all just guess work on what it actually does as an animal
>>5109870>What evidence exactly?are you trying to imply that all the films and images and reports of bigfoot aren't evidence? I'm going to skip this step where you say "none of it is convincing" to point out that proof and evidence are different things. Something can be evidence without being the smoking gun that proves it. Obviously, I hope.
>>5101511God damn monkeys paw spamming the catalog with bigfoot threads, but like this due to deboonkers
>>5109973Tf you talking about tard this is the only Bigfoot thread in the catalog
>>5109977You're not seeing the others? Well they are naturally blurry and out of focus...
>>5109982
It's over.
>>5109648i have a bigfoot guy buddy who saw this at sxsw and when he called to tell me about this he sounded like absolutely devastated, like a godly man whose faith was utterly shattered.it was the only good bigfoot footage. there is literally no actual evidence.>>5109776It's beyond the deboonk, they found the rehearsal footage, it's an actual deathblow. Allegedly they almost got Bob to come clean in the documentary after they revealed they had it but his wife stopped him, because they've made millions in royalties selling the rights to this shit which was a known hoax. >>5109649I think this is way overly generous. I'm thinking thousands of years ago. Maybe indigenous ancestral memories of either hominids or large primates in asia, maybe a species that crossed beringia and existed in the new world before the natives killed them all. I do not think sasquatch, if it was actually in north america, survived until the europeans arrived. The only remaining theory is that sasquatch is an interdimensional entity that either intentionally or inadvertently phases in and out of our reality.
>>5110462>I think this is way overly generousWell yes of course, i would bet on it going extinct along time ago but i also like to consider the possibility of it being more recent
>>5110462Actual interdimensional entity here. Bigfoot is not one of our guys. We’re not fucking furfags. The higher planes are for scalies ONLY.Peace out, edibles
>>5109648>only once AI gets goodShow me the actual developed film not a youtuber talking about a screening
>>5110462>The only remaining theory is that sasquatch is an interdimensional entity that either intentionally or inadvertently phases in and out of our reality.And these kind of theories make bigfoot lame and not interesting anymore.
>>5109648Gymlan weighs in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrEY62Km4Bk
>>5109812>Presupposition that all evidence is fake is the crux here.because that's the fucking world we live in today. there are increasingly more bad actors than good ones in anything paranomal/cryptid related. you're just going to need a preponderance of evidence to get anywhere.
>>5110600the fact that he said S-X-S-W instead of south by southwest made me chortle
>>5110806The difference between skepticism and presupposition is important though.
>>5110857the difference doesn't matter when you can ask chatGPT to generate a blurry video of bigfoot walking and it blows up on social media as definitive proof
>>5110806Cryptards don't need "a preponderance of evidence" they literally need a single hair to prove this thing exists. But all they have, all they are ever going to have, are blurry pictures.
>>5110862heh, cryptad.
>>5110867*cryptardfuck
>>5110861Why do you people keep making the same mistake over and over again?Evidence != proofwe have no proof of bigfootwe have a lot of evidence of bigfootwe don't know if bigfoot is real or not because we don't have any proof. evidence is not proof. evidence just suggests something. Evidence can also generally only go ONE WAY, in that you can support something's existence but you can't support something's inexistence, generally. It's why in science you typically have to either prove a positive or disprove all reasonable positives instead of attempting to prove or disprove a negative.The fact that it's easy to fake a bigfoot sighting doesn't mean a single thing. I can fake a (You) sighting, or a horse sighting, I can fake the sky being blue and I can fake them all poorly, but none of those mean that (You), horses, or the blue sky do not exist. This is the difference between the two, and why it does matter.If you cannot accept that it's possible for something resembling bigfoot (to SOME degree, not exclusively a pop-culture or general consensus view) existing, as in genuinely believe that it is absolutely impossible and that any evidence provided is assumed fake - then you simply have an ingrained belief and are not engaging in this debate in good faith. It's perfectly fine to call out fakes and hoaxes and point out issues in evidence people feel strongly about, but claiming unilaterally all evidence should be disregarded is as silly as claiming unilaterally all evidence should be accepted as proof.
Bob Gimlin himself could come out and admit its fake and then wheel the suit out of his garage and there's a large amount of people who would still refuse to accept it was a hoax.
What was up with the documentary? Anything actually conclusive?
>>5110942As a tangental counter point, we have evidence of the existence of many cosmic phenomena but nobody is arguing that Nebulae, Black Holes, Quasars, or Neutron Stars aren't real for example. We have photographs of some of them (some of which are incredibly blurry and difficult to make out, some of which are in a scale not visible to the human eye), we have theoretical models that observed phenomena interacting with them appear to follow, and we have what may or may not be ionized radiation readings which may or may not follow other theoretical models, but there's not a majority of astronomers and astrophysicists saying "there's no concrete proof so we don't believe it exists." At a certain point enough evidence (or evidence of sufficient quality) can become proof and so far the evidence provided has either been provably fake or of such insufficient quality it can't be seriously accepted.>but those things are all at cosmic scaleAnd no living human will ever be able to indisputably prove they exist, and yet they are accepted as if they do.I'll accept it's possible that members of another hominid species made it across Beringia along H. Sapiens, but if they did they went extinct sometime during either the late Pleistocene or very early Holocene. Hominids fossilize very badly and the few examples we have are almost entirely from deliberate burial sites or in caves away from scavengers. A group of hominids being actively hunted, either for food or just because they were competition, by H. Sapiens and their remains being scattered as garbage or left for scavengers is probable enough to indicate a lack of a fossil record especially if they existed in an environment with as much decay activity as dense forests. All that's left is myth and legend. The evidence required for an extant (or even recently extinct) hominid the size and supposed disposition of bigfoot is so enormous that it's rightly treated as mythological.
>>5110987Those comic things are basically proven through math.
>>5110987>but nobody is arguing that Nebulae, Black Holes, Quasars, or Neutron Stars aren't real for example.nta but there are people that argue that some of them don't exist
>>5110987>no living human will ever be able to indisputably prove they existBigfags literally resorting to existentialist realism to move the goalpost further back.>Takes a drag off a cigarette>Looks out at Paris>But, what even IS un Grande Pied..? Is the mind of the man and the mind of the beast... Homoiousian..?
>>5110961It's said to include this old footage that shows Patterson and others testing the bigfoot suit that they then later used for that actual film, thus clearly indicating that PGF was indeed hoax
>>5111024I could swear there was a discussion about this back in the day, and it was justified as them "recreating what they saw" after the fact. But maybe I've gotten Berenstein Bear'd, I'm from the timeline where Kofi Annan died in prison.
>>5111025Why would they recreate what they saw?And what people have said about it, the bigfoot suit in that new film is literally same as bigfoot in PGF, so if it would be just recreation then at least it would prove that they clearly could literally make suit like that.
>>5111032Yeah, sorry, I implied that I meant that in defence of the footage: I do not. I just think it's interesting a documentary came out showing proof of something that I am pretty damn sure was common knowledge. But maybe it got scrubbed and buried as the hoax grew more lucrative. Or I'm making shit up.Obviously the footage showing them rehearsing with a god damn bigfoot costume indicates that they had means, motive, and opportunity.
>>5110942>>5110987Raped and gaped. Just off yourselves now Bigfootfags
>>5110987>Hominids fossilize very badly That's not a feature of hominids but the acidic jungle soils they are usually found in. There were no jungles anywhere near the Bering Straight. If there was another hominid in North America it would be in North America's fossil record.
>>5111043pnw is predominantly rainforest, dude.
>>5111003you're replying to the guy who disagrees with bigfoot's existence.
>>51111371) I said jungle, jungle = tropical rainforest.2) There was no temperate rainforest in the region either when the bering straight existed.3) Bigfoot isn't real.
How long until the rehearsal footage is uploaded online?
so bigfooters getting raped again?
>>5111192When someone finally decides to distribute it, so continue seeing "I'll see it when I believe" for the foreseeable future
>>5111197>it's a hoax we proved it the guy in the suit came forward>it's a hoax we proved it the videographer came forward>it's a hoax we proved it we ai generated a rehearsal
>>5111464I eagerly await your presence in the next Bigfoot thread in a couple months when the footage drops and you'll be having the meltdown of your life coping every which way in a vain attempt to convince yourself it wasn't a hoax
>>5109777There's also some people in this thread who believe Bigfoots are a race of human.
So Bob Heironimus was also a fraud or what?
>>5111486No, he was the guy in the bigfoot suit in PGF
>>5111486I always heard that he had different stories for how it happened, so maybe he's just a guy who liked to lie a lot despite totally being in on it?
>>5111494He could have also been not in on it, just because the PGF was fake doesn't mean he was in the suit.
>>5111482To be honest it's going to have people divided unless it's really good video. It'll be labeled AI and there will be arguments about it and it'll be hard to prove its veracity regardless of its actual veracity. If I'm convinced they faked it by it I'll admit it in the inevitable next thread.
>>5111482>>5111548Two posts that perfectly sum up again how much more reasonable bigfootfags are than non-believers somehow
>>5111552I can tell the fire's turned up high, you're feeling the heat and sweating hard kek.Like I said: can't wait for the footage to drop.
>>5111553why are you the only one that sounds insecure here then
so many bigfooters are just obvious griftersjust look at cabin in the woods, for example
>>5111603>So this was grandpa's video archive?>Yeah, it's mostly trips outside with me when I was your age.>Wow, that's a big mushroom! :D>Yeah, hold on, honey, I need to finish dinner.>Little girl watches 30 more videos of grandpa grifting for bigfoot, eternalised in film, watching a human being chase vanishing updoots and never again posting a fun video about picking mushrooms
>>5111603I had to check and indeed there is only 14 days between his first bigfoot video and that PGF is real video. Lol
>>5111594>y-you're the insecure one!LolTick tock, bigfootfag. Tick tock
>>5111553I am the anon you are replying to and i don't even believe in bigfoot. Stop assuming everyone that doesn't agree with you on something has to be on the opposition, that's schizo behavior.
>>5111660and these days he's getting hundreds of thousands of views on each videoso of course he's already out defending patterson-gimlin vs the documentary
>>5111697God the paranormal shit is retarded. I stopped watching him because he went full paranromal and because of the laughable ai images and videos he uses now
>>5111672>i-i d-don't actually b-believe in bigfoot...Lol
>>5111707yeah yeah sure
>>5103152>not a human dongI trust this anon's expertise.
>>5102186dogman would fuck up a big ape any day of the week
>>5111788Bigfoot>Size>Strength>Intelligence>Tool UseDogman>Weapons>Speed>Agility>Ferocity You decide which ones matter more
>>5105365Wait when did he troon out? This is news to me., i thought he was just a furry. Also fuck you i will get my squatch-wife and then we'll see who's laughing
>>5111795I think it depends on the life Bigfoot has led before, if he's been in scraps in the past he'll know how ruthless to be, if not Dogman probably rips his throat out before he has time to rage out. Although in a prolonged fight maybe Dogman would bleed him to death. Overall I'm just more of a fan of the Dogman idea so I want him to win.
>>5103165Doesn't look too good in motionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRtjkAfQeO4
>>5112156That looks effectively photorealistic and lifelike, retard. Nobody would be able to tell the difference between that and a real animal in the woods.
>>5112269In broad daylight, unobscured by foliage like the P-G footage? I dunno about that
>>5112271Stop pretending there's a difference, bigfootfag. It's undistinguishable between the two.
>>5112271If the footage is faked and they did test runs then it's a moot point as they could have just kept shooting the hypothetical PG suit until they got it right.In both cases you essentially have parties willing to invest time and money to making their scene look as realistic as possible. The only question would be where they got the Bigfoot suit if it is fake. We've known that Patterson and Gimlin were trying to make a bigfoot documentary anyways, even if in the end they didn't end up making money that's only proof that their hoax was unprofitable, not that they didn't try to hoax for money.
>>5112272Disagree>>5112275That's a good point. Still though like you said how did they obtain such a fantastic suit? That's the one thing that really gives me pause about the P-G sasquatch
>>5112283The suit isn’t that impressive, it just so happens to sit in the perfect anbiguity zone. I bet if they shot it closer, this film would be a forgotten footnote
I'm not saying they're real, I'm not saying they're not. Could a group of gigantopithecus retreat to east asian cave systems due to global temperature drops and evolve into a smaller animal due to a lower amount of available resources and space and become scarce hidden remnants of what we call big foot?>>5111697His stupid "traumatized" face gives me "Big foot is real and he tried to eat my ass." funnies
>>5112283The suit looks as good as it does because it's viewed from far away and the footage is grainy, so the Bigfoot is somewhat obscuredThe PG footage can be fake but wasn't it based off an alleged sighting someone had with a female bigfoot or was that just one of the many attempts to discredit PG at the time
>>5112416Yeah, I think I've heard people mentioned it was based off of the William Row encounter, which also features a female bigfoot looking over it's shoulder.
