Guys I hate hunting so much. I live in the south and like 75% of people I know are fucking obsessed with killing. It seems like it doesn't even matter what it is-ducks, raccoons, doves, deer, turkeys, anything that has a season they're all in and killing as often and a many as they can. The part that pisses me off the most is that they always talk like they're some kind of skilled sportsman when in reality the animal doesn't stand a chance. These faggots spend thousands on decoys, camouflage, trail cams, bait, dogs, guns, 4-wheelers- and then have the gall to act smug and proud when they wait at a known migration stop and kill a fucking duck that's been flying for 900 miles without a break.I hate the shit so much it makes me sick.
>>5108040stfu faggot hunting is totally fine if they eat the prey.only trophy hunters and shit deserve critisism and even then they are responsible for funding most conservation efforts so are actually a good thing if u care about animals
>>5108040Well then they deserve what's coming to them, don't they?
>>5108043You're prey.
>>5108043>projectionWhat part of OP's description of those around him sounds like they're hunting for any purpose other than sport?Don't bother answering, loser. It was rhetorical.>>5108040Practically all hunters I know are largely the opposite. They hunt for seasonal food like you would eat Carabao mangos only for late spring/early summer, and they talk about it mundanely like they're going grocery shopping.
>>5108040You a vegan or something wild and whacky like that?
>>5108061cringe>>5108068the part where all the animals mentioned (apart from raccoons) are ones almost exclusively hunted for food.no wonder you dont want me to answer when you know full well you are chatting out ur arse
>>5108068>What part of OP's description of those around him sounds like they're hunting for any purpose other than sport?Not him but, sport is fine as long as they eat what they kill. Humans should foster the idea we're (mostly) the apex predator more in our society.
Ever ran into a deer? Know someone who did? Think of it as revenge and I wouldn't consider it a total waste when you're harvesting from the corpse. An antler knife sounds so badass.
Lol sorry you hate your daddy and grew up to disappoint him. I'm not a hunter, nor will I probably ever, but I don't care. Aside aside from the basic 'I eat meat' hunting tags pay for a lot. Plus deer turn into pests. Massachusetts has a bit of a deer problem because of hunting restrictions and population density. They can survive urban adjacent or in the suburbs. When mice come into my house I have no problem letting the snap trap do it's job.
>>5108040Just don't go on safaris to Africa and it's fineIf you do that, you're basically just torturing and killing endangered species for fun without even having any challenge
>>5108040Nice EZ bait thread by the usual faggot OP
>>5108040I only hate it when it involves threatened or endangered species. There is nothing wrong with culling overpopulated pests like raccoons.
>>5108040Humans are predators and inferior animals are our foodBonus: Some animals are pests unless in a totally pristine ecosystem, which asian migrants burned down before the mayflower anyways, and actually need to be hunted by humans or they ravage the earth>inb4 vegan schizo psycho-narcissist false equivalences and godless pseudo-moral pseudo-intellectual babbling
>>5108338I had a coworker who would *leave bait out* and spend his evenings plinking raccoons with a .22 to "watch 'em spaz out for a while".I asked "why not try to kill them humanely?" and he genuinely seemed to think that they were sentient enough to intentionally be bothering him (which makes it even more insane imo) and needed to be sufficiently punished for not "respecting his property".Needless to say I avoided that motherfucker like the plague until I got out of there.I recognize the benefits that hunting provides but we shouldn't pretend a decent chunk of those guys aren't psychopathic white niggers.
Reminder that all anti hunting sentiment is pushed by leftoids that want you to live in pod eating soi paste and cricket burgers.
hunting is fine, but like op all the hunters i know are the lowest iq retards walking on this earth.
99% of hunters have tiny dicks, they enjoy torturing animals to compensate
>>5108519>>5108478The average IQ of a white male who hunts is 105The average IQ of an LGBTQ is 92People like >>5108382 dont really get counted as hunters because while its still technically predation, hunting is a more formal cultural role for our species
>>5108040>raccoons, doves, deer, turkeys,Everything here but the raccoon is delicious, organic, and healthy meat. A deer will feed your family for months and a good sized turkey will be dinner for weeks.> they always talk like they're some kind of skilled sportsman when in reality the animal doesn't stand a chanceSo would you be okay with hunting if someone chased the animal down and strangled or beat it to death with their bare hands? Because that is far more abusive and crueler than just shooting it in the vitals. Hunting intrinsically is advantageous to the predator; do you think a rattlesnake having venom that instakills anything it bites is fair to the mice? What about when a lion tackles a warthog 1/15th of its size? Or a great horned owl gets the silent drop on a rat? This obsession some people have with fairness in hunting is retarded.
>>5108043>>5108076>hunting is totally fine if they eat the prey.>sport is fine as long as they eat what they kill.How does that make it fine? They are still going out of their way to kill an animal for pleasure, whether that pleasure is the hunting itself or eating it's meat.
>>5109501Humans are predators. We have eaten meat since before we were human. Our bodies require the precise balance of nutrients found in meat to grow to full size and maintain the skeleton, muscles, endocrine system, and brain. All meatless diets are at least somewhat deficient even if they are pursued by a rich parasite with infinite free time, funding, and others technology to leverage and even then they can only turn out slightly weakened because they depend on the labor and ingenuity of the meat eaters who are gladly taking their money all the while. We are going to eat meat. You are going to screech about arbitrary universalist ethics and communist philosopher king aliens from star trek. You will remain a parasite, like all ARAs and vegans, only worth the money you give carnivores to keep you alive like a distant pet. You think you have morals. You are actually living under a eugenics program that cleanses the upper class of psychological defects as the fertility rates of vegans are nonexistent. You have accomplished nothing in life but encouraging americans to offshore the hard work of rearing thousands of cattle by supporting regulations that make it so expensive to farm properly that its better to let the chinese torture livestock for entertainment. End result: livestock tortured more, environment polluted more, white people got richer and lazier. Lol. Thank you for your cervix, ARA/vegans!Please support a ban on hunting next so finally all meat will come from Chinese torture farms and be sold for cheaper than ever, you useless little childless freak. For the animals, and internally consistent logical ethics!
>>5109501If the meat taste good then I should be allowed to enjoy it.
>>5108581Inequality is a basic law of nature, these sheltered soft handed faggots know nothing.
>>5109501because its the natural order of things faggot
>>5109509sadly the natural order is considered a fallacy by people who dont understand it. its an extremely complex and apparently disorderly thing so debate spergs abhor it by default with dumb fuck arguments like>oh so if lions rape women and kill babies humans can?>huh, its not natural for “civilized” humans to? ARBITRARY!and then they’ll be arbitrary themselves by having literally any morality without first believing in god
>>5109505That's a lot of words to say you have a little dick
>>5108040Hunting for sport is mean and sucks. Animals are cool and pretty and should be treated nice if possible. I get hunting for food and to clear out pests and stuff. But if its just for the fun of it, thats cruel. Ive got a friend whos halve native and does sweat lodges and loves the earth and and shit, but hes gone hunting for sport and i dint get it at all.
>>5109514>get btfo bigtime>muh dick!!!!All vegans are parasitesWithout the society that is exclusively built and maintained by meat eaters, you starveThe only decent explanation for you is that veganism is how the upper class humanely euthanizes retarded bloodlinesFor all your cock talk, you haven’t done shit with it. The majority of vegans and ARAs are childless and dedicated to remaining so. Well, maybe you literally “did shit” iykwim.
>>5109518>posting on 4chin>calls other people childlessYou probably don't even hunt
>>5109521Still unable to refute shit I see
>>5109505I'm not vegan or against eating meat. I'm saying that you could just as well go to a store and buy an already dead animal, so going out of your way to kill one for food is a pleasure. Of course with the exception that you can't afford/access food, then it's a necessity.>>5109509The natural order is a general concept you made up in your head, you should be more specific if you want to actually prove a point.
>>5108040if the hunter doesn't give the animal a real fighting chance, then the hunter should just go hunting in the supermarket
>>5109523>if you enjoy something its wrong!Oh okay, so to you, it is morally preferable to incentivize chang torturing a cow to death as long as you dont enjoy buying it, but dropping a vermin deer instantly is wrong because you have fun?This is literal pagan faggot morality. It’s the kind of hogshit hindus and greek pagans cooked up. Oh no, you enjoyed getting your own food! EVIL!You are somehow even dumber than a vegan. You are fucking retarded. >>5109524Actual idiot.
>>5109522>veganism is environmentally friendly>moral>healthier Meat eaters are a net drain on society. Enjoy the .....aack
>>5109537>veganism excuses unsustainable population growth with nothingburger carbon savings>is immoral - founding principle is fully arbitrary and equates man with beast - vegans are either willing to murder humans to protect animals or are poseurs>is significantly less healthy than an equally carefully crafted diet that includes animal products>is less sustainable overall and creates more dependence on petrochemicals, while petrochemical use in the animal industry is a luxury rather than a requirement
>>5109537Meat eaters CREATED society because worthless vegan fucktards were too stunted and tired to, and if they weren’t they’d be doing more than just fantasizing about wrecking farms and killing ranchers. India is what naturally happens when masses of people go vegan or “meat minimal”. It all started when the rich wanted to pose as more spiritual/moral and the impairments went unnoticed because they were already well served by their slaves. It spread downwards and soon they were unable to maintain civilization. Natural selection then butted in and started cutting back on traits that were no longer being fully sustained by meat intake, ie: brain size. Like cave animals losing their eyes.
>>5109525t. hunts with guided munitions from a heli
>>5109556>no terror of being stalked>instant death guaranteed, no botched shotsit would be preferable to factory farms desuare you for animals dying painlessly? humans are physically and digestively frail predators and are meant to have a natural aversion to thrashing, sick, and hurt animals
>>5109512yes I know its sad they just dismiss anything they don't accept anything they can't understand when so many things are beyond their narrow understanding of existence
>>5109523hunting is far less destructive and causes way less suffering than industrialized farming>if you want to actually prove a pointthat's the thing I dont really give a shit about arguing with feeble minded morons because they wont accept it anyway unless they come to understand these things on their own terms
>>5108043Fpbp>>5108040Fuck off to Tiktok or whatever, faggot
>>5109544>petro chemical use isn't a requirement for meatBahahahahahahaha it takes more crops to grow meat lol>>5109547Sorry Mr. Sexual Tyrannosaurus, farmers killed off the hunters and took their women.
>>5109710>nutrient deficient comprehension at workFarmers farmed animals. >uh more crops are-This isnt inherent to meat. Its inherent to the corrupted free market meat distribution system. All brands have to overproduce and keep shelves stocked with value packaging. This industrial model wastes, by the end of it all, one out of five cows reared. So the government subsidizes grain feed to keep up. Historically meat was and should still be reared on rotating pasture/crop fields, food scraps, and inedible agricultural waste. Literally every single family home in the US can support chickens, goats, and pigs right now. Every farm could save a shitton on fertilizer if they rotated grazing animals and crops. But yields would not keep up with modern corrupted capitalisms need to stock shelves with competing brands such that much of it rots in the store. Municipalities actually actively try to ban home farming. Vegans on the other hand NEED imported and manufactured foods. Your diet is unnatural. You starve without your precise balance of imported and manufactured foods. You need meat to live. Even at veganisms best it can not support full human development from zygote to adult. Without the modern supplement industry and seasonal “superfoods” from across the world you would be a 5’2” tiny brained jeetling. Only the wealthy can larp as members of your immoral, anti-human cult because of this.
>>5109719>true communism had never been tried beforeLol
>>5109721>muh economic theory dichotomyTrue communism is ass. That doesn’t mean that the awful “real capitalism” isn’t ass either. The purpose of a government is to coordinate national efforts >when beneficial< not to control everything or ignore everything because some asshats “philosophy” “manifesto” and “moral oughts” all “theorize” it must be so, and posit that any deviation demands descent into chaos as if humans are not free to act rationally without first being programmed by some narcissistic philosopher. The most successful economies in history have selectively regulated, deregulated, controlled, and privatized industry as needed for the sake of efficiency and accomplishment, not some horrid little jew’s philosophies.Habeeb it or not we can have still private property with the government exercising better control over the livestock industry. Its current form wastes arable land and wastes over 20% of its product.
>>5108040Yeah, I don't think I could ever do it in any other situation than pure survival. Maybe if it were an invasive species, but I even tried to save the mouse that I caught in a glue trap. I suppose a quick death from a bullet beats being ripped up by a bear or a wolf, though.
>>5109525>Oh okay, so to you, it is morally preferable to incentivize chang torturing a cow to death as long as you dont enjoy buying it but dropping a vermin deer instantly is wrong because you have funIt's not neccesarily wrong because you have fun, but because you have a choice. And since you have fun, you grasp at any justification you can to make the choice of killing an animal, like boycotting industrialized farming.Even if you actually cared about that, which I doubt, not buying some meat has such an incredibly small effect on the farming industry you would have to be stupid to think that it justifies ending the life of an animal.To be fair, understanding this requires you to have some sort of empathy towards animals.>>5109623>hunting is far less destructive and causes way less suffering than industrialized farmingIndustrialized farming is neccesary, hunting is not. Hell, the entire point of the farming industry is so you don't have to hunt. Would I love if the farming industry treated animals better? Of course. Will that happen because some people choose to hunt their own food? Well they've been doing that since the creation of the farming industry and it's still shit, so no, It just means more animals unnecessarily die.
>>5108329Most African safari you are either hunting something that isn't endangered or the amount you are paying to kill one animal will save 20 more
>>5109517Killing your own food is better than having someone else kill it for you
>>5110322>more animals unecessarily dieyou are beyond retarded. prey animals like deer require culling in any area encroached on by humans because our presence drives out all the predators like bears and wolves ect.here they hire people to go shoot all the deer and incinerate them so not hunting just means animals are being killed simply to keep their numbers down but if you hunt and eat them at least they serve some purpose
>>5110322You are an idiot and living proof that functional morality can not be programmed into cattle like you if it is not pounded into you with religion. You are incapable of independently creating a useful value system. You are less than human and require humans (a priestly caste) to lie to you about gods and demons to fool you into behaving sanely. Simple as. Your big spiel grasping at the secular moral purity (lmfao) of eating a deer is why we call you goyim. Cattle. Useless and self hampering if not herded by humans. I have more respect for the chinese than you. They might be evil, but they don’t need to be commanded to arrive at a system that benefits them.
>>5108329>>5110327This. African safari is>be a low 7 figure dentist>bid 50k on black rhino tag, win>spend a shit load locally on accommodations, guides, etc>get led to old bull, no longer breeding>plug bull. Locals carve up and keep the nest and give him the trophies. The famous Cecil the lion wasn't a managed hunt. The guy lured the lion off a protected reserve.
>>5108040if you hate it so much, why download images like this & then upload them?this seems like a bait thread to be honest, but it seems like the mod team doesn't know what those are (or don't care)
>>5110440I feel like in theory paid African safaris are solid, rich old fucks spending a ton of money to hunt some near death old animal and the proceeds helps the park.In reality I have a feeling it's rife with mismanagement and animals getting killed that shouldn't. It's Africans running the show after all. You pay $50,000 to hunt a rhino, one guy at the top pockets $45,000 and the rest pays for fuel and maybe some fence repairs (the fence repair guy doesn't do the work btw).
>>5110827Vert likely so, but I would imagine some white guys are involved at the top. Even if there is massive grift, it seems to be baked in and everything keeps going. I think a big part of it is that scary guys with guns get some of the money. That incentives poachers to keep it moving to easier targetsSkimming and doing good aren't mutually exclusive.
>>5109523>saying that you could just as well go to a store and buy an already dead animalSo what you're trying to say is you're fine with the systematic mass killing and disgusting abuse of hundreds of thousands of animals per day, but John Smith doming three or so ducks once a week is where you cross the line?Hunting is the most ethical way of eating meat by far, what the fuck are you talking about?
