Village-owned pigs were a common feature of medieval rural life, particularly in poorer communities. Not every household could afford to keep its own livestock, so villages often maintained one or more communal pigs for fattening. These animals were fed on household scraps, peelings, spoiled grain, and other waste, turning rubbish into meat with remarkable efficiency.The pig was usually allowed to roam freely through the village, foraging in yards, lanes, and nearby woodland. In autumn it might be driven into the forest to feed on acorns and beech mast, a right known as pannage. Responsibility for feeding and watching the animal was shared, sometimes formally, sometimes simply understood.Disputes over whose scraps went to the pig, or who failed to contribute, appear regularly in manor court records.When slaughter time came, usually in late autumn or early winter, the meat was divided according to custom. Some portions went to the poorest households, some to the church or lord, and some were salted or smoked for communal use. Nothing was wasted. Meat, fat, skin, and even bones had value.The village pig was not a symbol of charity so much as practicality. It represented collective survival in a world where margins were thin and waste could not be afforded. In many places, that single animal helped carry a community through the winter.
Pigs were also used in groups exstensively to help rotovate fields as well as to remove any potentially problematic weeds prior to sowing crops.
>>5108424This isn't really that historic. Places like England were still doing this up until the 1950s where you would have a backyard pig that you would give to your neighbor to butcher in return for his that you would also butcher in turn.
>>5108424based piggies.
>>5108431Very, very different from:>The pig was usually allowed to roam freely through the village, foraging in yards, lanes, and nearby woodland. In autumn it might be driven into the forest to feed on acorns and beech mast, a right known as pannage. Responsibility for feeding and watching the animal was shared, sometimes formally, sometimes simply understood.
no mention of how smart they are?my pa had pigs and one was a smartass escape-artist that'd give attitude and eat the neighbour's flowers>>5108436>we live together with a pig that we feed scraps and then eat
>>5108436Not really. You and a few other people cared for pigs and the neighborhood collectively would give you scraps for the pig to eat, then once the time came you would give the pig to someone to butcher and vice versa with the meat often being given out to friends or neighbors as there was more than enough meat from one pig for a small household. My grandparents used to talk about it a lot and as it was just one of those things that was fairly normal and common. Often times the pig would be killed and just be left to drain in the house bathtub.That seems fairly communal to me.
>>5108431Because of the pail, the scraps were saved. Because of the scraps, the pigs were saved.Because of the pigs, the rations were saved. Because of the rations, the ships were saved.Because of the ships, the island was saved. Because of the island, the Empire was saved.And all because of the housewife’s pail.
>>5108431>>5108454My village had a similar thing going, that from what I understand went something like so:>different households each keep a pig (now I think about it, I don't know if it was every household or just some)>community helps out with butchering, with everyone taking home a share of the meat>by coordinating/staggering slaughterings, everyone gets a steady supply throughout the yearit was definitely still going in the 1950s but I'm not entirely sure when it actually stopped
Thank god we got out of that godless communist hellhole. God bless the USA.
>>5108424why didn't they go fishing instead? there are fishes everywhere and they are easier to keep/farm also they are way healthier
Must have been filthyYou get more food (and eggs) and less disease from feeding scraps to chickens. They’re small, dumb, can live in a pen, and reproduce like rats. Pig rearing is for retarded cattle people.
>>5108424The virgin capitalist pig vs the communal village pig.
>>5108795good point
>>5108795Okay Mohammed
>>5108795¿Porqué no los dos?
>>5108795Chickens are harder to preserve
>>5108818Puerco no los dos lmao
>>5108424>Village-owned pigs were a common feature of medieval rural lifeThey still exist. Just ask your mom.
>>5108834Lmao, gottem.
>>5108795Chicken don't have crackling.
>>5108819Doesn’t matter, you keep them alive on scraps and leftovers during winter and you get eggs. Eggs are great as food during the scarce winter months. Preserved pork and lard would mostly be used to flavour vegetable soups and stews anyway if you were a peasant.>>5108897Gribenes? Chicken skin crisped in its own fat? It’s a byproduct of making schmalz (chicken fat).Chickens were kept by peasants during the medieval period, and still are kept in house backyards of virtually every house that isn’t in a city or in North America today. Providing eggs and the occasional meat for stewing at the cost of letting them forage and eat your leftovers is a no-brainer.
>>5109079>Chickens were kept by peasants during the medieval period, and still are kept in house backyards of virtually every house that isn’t in a city or in North America today. Providing eggs and the occasional meat for stewing at the cost of letting them forage and eat your leftovers is a no-brainer.They attract rats and other pets while at the same they don't yield a lot of meat compared to pigs. If you are arguing on egg laying alone maybe, but eggs can only do so much
>>5109081>pests*
>>5109079Yes it does matter because firstly chickens in medievel times would produce very few to no eggs during the winter and they have very little meat on them. Even today non-commercial layer breeds almost completely shut down during the winter. They'll do 1 egg every 4 or 5 days when the days are very short.Left is a fairly well fed "spent hen" compared to a modern day meat bird.Last thing is that any chicken over roughly 1 year old is going to be extremely tough and take many hours of stewing to cook, so in reality the meat would also be used to essentially flavor stews.
>>5109084>medieval tards were worse chicken farmers so uhhh farm pigs okWith modern breeds and techniques a backyard pen can produce meat and eggs continuously… there is absolutely no reason to farm an animal as inefficient, dirty, and intelligent as the pig. Peters vision was the fakest part of the NT and christian misinterpreted matthew 15:11 to abrogate dietary laws entirely, it just reiterated that they were secondary to moral laws and lapses were not as important as say, lapses in heterosexuality. Pork is still not kosher. Stop eating it you savage.
>>5109085From a very brief search on the matter Pigs take 10-15kg to gain 1kg of weightChickens take around 5kg to gain 1kg of weight. Both extremely inefficient compared to today where pigs do 3:1 and cornish cross can achieve 2:1 feed conversions.Pigs are not really dirty if you keep them properly. About equal or worse than chickens.It is not too far off and you get meat and fat that is more versatile than chicken meat. Having both sort of rounds their weaknesses out. Another thing to consider is that pigs are significantly more robust animals and are not as prone to predation, so in medieval times it would probably be a safer bet to feed a pig that will most likely survive the year.
>>5109081I have 4 hens and basically get 3 eggs a day, seen no rats yet.
>>5109105Do you have an omelette every morning with the eggs?
>>5109109I make lots of soft-boiled eggs.
>>5109110Nice. I really like a soft boiled egg on rice.
>>5109111You can just put the egg raw on there.The heat from the rice cooks the egg.
>>5109116I know the trick, but it only works with rice that has just finished cooking. I have a rice cooker and it doesn't keep the rice hot enough with the keep warm function. :(Onsen eggs are a different vibe to TKG as well.
>>5109085>Peters vision was the fakest part of the NT and christian misinterpreted matthew 15:11 to abrogate dietary laws entirely, it just reiterated that they were secondary to moral laws and lapses were not as important as say, lapses in heterosexuality. Pork is still not kosher. Stop eating it you savage.The fuck are you talking about?
>>5108467Is the empire in the room with us right now?
>>5108424>The village pig was not a symbol of charity so much as practicality. It represented collective survival in a world where margins were thin and waste could not be afforded. In many places, that single animal helped carry a community through the winter.This reeks of AI, just wanted to point it out. Otherwise, informative OP
>>5108424Europe might need pigs again to repel a certain invasive species
>>5109319That's because this entire thread is a copy of a xitter post down to the image. It's a bot thread.The info is legit though.
>>5109530Agreed. Total Bracken death
>>5109538It appears word-for-word on insta alsoIt appears to have been translated into several languages for posting in other countriesWeird thing to waste money on
Eating pigs make me sad because they're very smart and docile, not too many people would be willing to eat them had they interacted with one at least once in their lives. Cows are fine because they're retarded.It's always weird to see people going nuclear over dog meat when pigs are also very nice, not saying you should eat dogs but that you shouldn't eat pig either. Feel free to eat cows because they're retarded.
>>5110922The promised land beckons ye
>>5110926Maybe I'm spiritually Jewish, unfortunately I don't get hard when I see money or blown up palestinian children (which also disqualifies me of being a true american patriot).
>>5109081I'm a poultry farmer. I have this argument all the time.Chickens are king for a few reasons.1:grow out speed2:self replication3:easy to recover numbers and extremely fast4:food everyday (egg)5:meat at the end of the cycle along.Basically it comes down to the fact chickens can replicate faster than even rabbits. Its easy to split and recover flocks numbers if you ever run into any issues. If you free range, you could have a predator swing through and kill 50% of your flock and recover all of it within 3 months.1 hen can easily sit 6-10 eggs. 3 months till they are laying eggs.Most hooved animals are extremely high risk endeavors along with requiring infrastructure such as hangs for cattle and some type of storage.I free range 100-200 chickens and I just grab a bird and eat that day. Food is practically free since they forage.The only thing that sucks about chickens is processing. Its tendinous for the amount of meat and I much rather just have a pig to process. But overall chickens have been worshiped and used throughout the world because they are kind of a magic animal.Food everyday.Replicates like a fucking virusLow input. High output compared to any other animal.
>>5109084...simply have more birds
>>5111044Wow cool another eggman. How are you selling your eggs? Are you raising them in a forest or something to have such low feed costs? I have mine on consistently fresh rotational pasture, but they still need supplemental feed. 500 birds go through a ton of food every couple weeks.
>>5111048I give most of them away.I'm an angry socialist and they are a byproduct of my lifestyle.A few well off people donate once in a while.
>>5111048I free range and they go into the back of a old keebler truck to sleep at night.My food bill is maybe 40 bucks a month to supplement vitamins they may not naturally forage or if some of the birds can't find food or are bullied away from it.I'm kind of a hippie socialist so this isn't like business for me. I'm just living my life.I even got one bird that comes into the house and lays everyday in the bathroomI'm not typical. My door is open till winter(literally propped open)I don't believe in profit seeking from non elastic demandsI don't cage animals without a strong reason.I typically hate modern farming and the commodification of animals and food.I don't take government welfare (this is extremely rare for food production, almost all farms receive welfare).SepticCistern Heat with wood.That kind of stuff. I am a oddball and I'm just doing my own thing cause most people are deranged like when half of America wanted to kill college kids for Israel saying they are Hamas in like Denver or something.
piggu desu
