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Who's ready for more of our parks to be sold to logging companies?
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>cartoon villains aren't realistic
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>>5113671
Those are some long noses
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Why are conservacucks comically evil? They rally on subduing more extreme positions of their opponents but when getting power just give everyone explosive diarrhea.
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>>5113683
To make retards like you vote for civil disarmament and replacement migration balkanizing and further chaining the working class the next cycle. There is only one actual party in american politics.
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>>5113683
>never do any of the things people actually want like deporting all the jeets
>always do some stupid gay shit that nobody except some billionare faggot asked for
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>>5113683
>>5113687
You know that heat survey or w/e a lot of conservatives like throwing around recently? It really says a lot in ways they don't likely intend. They wield it as some gotcha against their opponents, yet it really does speak to their priorities. Of the selfishness and smallness of their minds in buying so hard into zero sum for everything.
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>>5113692
The people that want white genocide to end and think modern liberal ideology is suicidal horseshit, who you have been arguing with, tend to be environmentalist if they aren’t fully compromised by what epstein was actually doing with /pol/ (destroying the peoples right wing by throwing in flat earth, nordicism, and climate change denial at every opportunity).

That heat survey means what they say it means. They say that a liberal would kill a human being to save some number of animals or is a narcissist who responds as a cartoonish all-appeasing persona on every personality test (the latter is the most common)
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>>5113702
this. you mistake zionist neocons from weird pseudo-christian cults like mormonism and protestantism for the purestrain 4chan alt right full of pagans, gnostics, atheists, and deists.

it is multiple ideologies and the line is drawn with religion.
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>>5113702
>liberal would kill a human being to save some number of animals
When people get asked abstract questions, most don't respond to the question in the same abstract way, they don't perceive the question in a vacuum. When someone gets asked "would you kill a human to save a bunch of animals" they likely immediately build a hypothetical situation in their head, intuitively, in which you would have to kill a human to save a bunch of animals. In this situation they also usually make up a motive for the person to kill the animals. Most liberals would likely think of a poacher trying to hunt an endangered species. A situation where the person is objectively evil and deserves to get killed. While a conservative would be more familiar with stuff like rural lifestyle so the first thing they will think of is a person hunting an animal for food, slaughtering cattle for food, hunting down species that threaten cattle or crops and such, things where the person killing an animal is morally justified to do such.
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>>5113683
>>5113703
Protestantism preemptively kneecapped environmentalism in America since Protestants actively refuse to accept that there can be sanctity in anything outside of their absurd religious texts, and the adoration of nature in particular is denounced as being Pagan. The influence of Marxist materialism on the American Left doesn't help either. The end result is that environmentalism can only be promoted through the lens of cold, material pragmatism, which is unconvincing to Republicans who only care about Line Go Up™.

Of course, I'm oversimplifying and exaggerating for the sake of making a point. Reverence of nature for it's own sake isn't totally absent from the American soul, which is why there has been some meaningful progress when it comes to conservation. But it's an uphill battle, especially when Republicans are in power.
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>>5113683
Because their entire platform since the Obama years has been "do the opposite of Democrats". A Black man being president completely mindbroke them and they still haven't recovered. They don't give a shit if they are tearing down institutions. If it makes the libtards mad, then mission accomplished.

This is how the country will fall btw. We're going to go through several more decades of 1000 cuts where everything gets a little more expensive each year and the faith in our institutions wanes a little more. Then there will probably be some explosive powder keg event but I'm hoping I'll be dead before it gets to that point.
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>>5113702
Conservatives like claim that it shows conservatives have an in group bias and liberals have an out group bias, but that’s not what it shows, what it REALLY shows is that the average liberal believes that all animals and humans deserve moral consideration, and that conservatives believe that only their closest in group deserve that.
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>>5113714
Thing is that "Leftists prioritize out-groups over their in-group" is at least somewhat true but trying to make that point by spamming a graph that doesn't actually show that is retarded.
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>>5113702
>white genocide

have sex
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>>5113671
Unironically it's going to help the ecosystem more
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>>5113719
They literally stated it was their goal and bragged about it, and often. Get over with it. The foreign tribe in your country wants power and you have it as longs you’re not a minority. Stop trusting people who sell your military tech to your enemies and bomb your ships while begging you to fight their wars.

>>5113717
You don’t understand it at all. It means from your present position, how far does your unconditional concern for right and wrong extend?

someone who did not select all mammals will not say, do nothing to save one, or support animal torture. It means that there are some mammals they will never care about, like rats, so they can not select “all mammals”. They won’t select “all nations” because there are some nations that want their people exterminated, so they can not honestly say all people in all nations receive unconditional moral concern. “but i wouldnt mind if all the muslim extremists died horribly” disqualifies you from selecting 9 even if you care deeply about everyone else.

It is literally just friend good, enemy get fucked and a survey of how far away people are from their unforgivable enemies.
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>>5113724
This is fig 4, from where participants rated each categories importance.

Liberals at the extreme are more likely to rate nonhumans as morally more important than humans.

Take both parts of the study and it shows that liberals just dont believe they have enemies everywhere, and right and wrong as so abstract that it is possible, if not necessary, for humans to be less important than animals.

Conservatives value humanity first and foremost and are aware of where their enemies are.
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>>5113727
This is not what the actual study says. If you are in one ring you are including every smaller ring in your sphere of moral consideration.
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>>5113729
That was fig 5. If you would not care if every muslim terrorist died, you cant select circle 9 even if you care about everyone else and even things beyond. All means all. Fig 5 therefore shows the nearest enemy or moral non-things location.

Fig 4 shows relative moral concern which is how people actually think. A very liberal person as labeled in this study is likely to agree that it can be right to kill a human to save some amount of animals.
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>>5113683
anyone acting like murrikan politics is a two-party system is either utterly ignorant or a zionist. It's all just a string of politicians making something worse without undoing what the previous one did, deliberately.
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government employees losing their jobs is always good, delete all these useless bureaucrats
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>>5113683
Is the party where consequences don't reach you: get pay from big corpos to look the other way? Cool as long as you say you hate browns and trans. You can do any crime and they will still forgive you as long as you repeat those magic words.
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>>5114058
Bold of you to think there is a party that isnt like this in the US

Just swap self preservation for self hatred
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>>5114061
No, because that's cancel culture: you do a controversial thing, like destroying a forest, so you get bad press. But if you get cancelled all you have to do is say "ehem, I hate gays and browns, yes?" And then conservatives just ignore whatever thing you did, because you said the magic words, and then say "you see, liberals eat each other".
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>>5114062
>no, because *nonsense*
im glad we agree all us politicians would gladly light the earth on fire and keep up the contradictory performative ideology and there is no voting your way out of this mess

thank you for agreeing that your government is a hostile foreign agent that serves multinational corporations and both parties are in fact pedophile clubs compromised by global corporatocracy. really. it was nice to find someone sane and mature for once.
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>>5113671
>/pol/ thread
unironically kill yourself
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>>5113953
>>5114061
>>5114068
It's funny how often I've been seeing this in recent months
>bad thing under Biden
>"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DEMONRATS THEY'RE DESTROYING THE WORLD FOR THE GLOBOHOMO OR JEWS OR WHATEVER"

>bad thing under Trump
>"Bro it's both parties they're both controlled by the same interests don't you see man"
No doubt it's Trumpies that don't want to directly criticize their pedophilic cult leader so they use the "both sides" copout. I rarely remember seeing it under Biden. It was always direct attacks on him.
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>>5114186
>bla bla bla red blue other side bla bla bla
Shut the fuck up amerifat

Biden went around federally delisting species whenever lobbyists asked and steadily approved requests to log old growth BLM land DESPITE his performative virtue signaling about how important it was. He also supplied israel with any arms they asked for at the height of the gaza genocide and fueled mutual extermination in the ukraine war while yammering about “our values” which are, according to US politicians, best expressed as most of a countries youth dying for a subjectively important political system and being replaced with easily manipulated labor scabs.
All US polticians are bad. Yes, all of them. They are even all pedos, between the epsteins and the podestas. Trump fucked kids. Hunter biden fucked kids. Joe biden fucked kids. The clintons fucked kids. Obama spent an obscene sum on “hotdogs and pizza” that would have fed a small army but would also be a realistic sum for trafficking prostitutes of questionable age. Your country is a lying shithole ruled by lying pedophiles and over half of it is third world. There is no good side or bad side or cool side or uncool side in american politics. Every single politician you have is literally fucking evil and rapes the world, children, and the office staff whenever they feel like it.

You can go now. Not to the polls. You should know those don’t do anything. The next democrat will keep the national parks up for sale while… taxing carbon, subsidizing $40k EVs with government accessible remote control, or some useless faggot shit.
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>>5114186
>be democrat
>bomb natural gas pipeline to own da homophobes in russia
>ocean poisoned
>be republican
>start war in ecologically fragile gulf to own da libs or whatever
>ocean poisoned
>oh wait they’re taking over the global energy market while playing bad cop good cop and literally destroying the ecosystem you depend on for food
>so they can sell you a petrochemical derived replacement
>as a subscription
>and you fell for it
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>>5114194
>"amerifat"
>Biden went
Stopped reading there. I don't listen to non-American's (i.e. not real people) opinions of what's going on in my country. I don't do it for your irrelevant turd world shithole country, don't do it for mine.
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>>5114220
Most of the countries you bombed were, before american intervention, more intelligent and civilized on average than the american south and rural midwest. Including iraq, syria, libya, iran, and venezuela.
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Not my country, not my continent, even. Thus, not my problem. Get fucked, burgers
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>>5114220
>uuuuh why do you as a non american care about america?
might be because of the hundred+ years of consistent warmongering, proxy wars and the american military base 100 feet from me, cletus.
we are currently living through the last death convulsion of your rotten empire. rot in hell with it.
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>>5114194
>He also supplied israel with any arms they asked for at the height of the gaza genocide and fueled mutual extermination in the ukraine war
ultra based. TMD. TZD.
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>>5113727
Conservatives value humanity first and foremost and are aware of where their enemies are.
*cough* Israel *cough*
>>5113702
>>5113724
Why do you support "white genocide" by being completely unfuckable.
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dismantling the beauty and sancity of our natural lands to appease corpos, what a fucking leadhead
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>>5114254
buddy you’re malding at someone who pointed out that liberals do in fact believe what they have said often, that they’d kill farmers to save cows

liberal: servant of the godless and arbitrary abstract value that they think will make the most people like them at the moment
conservative: FORWARD, FOR THE IMPERIUM OF MAN… woah not that man he’s kinda fruity. not that one either he’s a fucking moron. kill those ones.



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