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I like chives. Never eat them, but they look pretty.
>>5114039It's not meant to be eaten, it's meant to be planted by your pond
What is this on my Kalanchoe? Gall? Not something to worry about I assume
>>5113591>No, if it's not in thousands of lumens it's not useful for anything but tiny plantsCan you tell me more about this topic, I don't know much about it, always thought that you need to look for full light spectrum and not light output
>>5115046Take your light meter app, (change it to footcandles), go outside under the spring/summer sun and compare the number to whatever you have insidethen realize that indoor lighting is essentially a cave and plants stretch inside because they literally think they are buried underground and need to get back to where there's daylight.In regards to full spectrum, consider that there are giant plants that have lived longer than you have exclusively under glass windows in greenhouses, those windows blocking invisible light like uv (that full spectrum doesn't even have) and only receiving the basics.
>>5115046>>5115073Photosynthesis is performed using light in the visible spectrum. Light from the sun, or a basic lightbulb, produce white light, which is white because it's all the colors. "Full spectrum" is a pointless nondescriptor. The brightness and intensity of the (white) light is what matters. You also can't trust your eyes in regards to the brightness of light, because your eyes adapt to the situation, and are adapted for low light. Staring directly at a lightbulb may hurt your eyes so you think it's very bright, but when measured with unbiased technology, you can see that it might only be 500 fc, compared to the sun when it's not overcast, which will be 10,-12,000+ fc. In all directions, as opposed to just coming from one small source.The photosynthesis reaction is catalyzed by energy from light. Just straight photons. The more light, the more energy, because there's more light. The more light, the brighter, because there's more light. Colors don't enter the equation anywhere. Sure red and blue light are absorbed the best, but there's literally no reason to just throw out the entire rest of the spectrum when it's like, the default light we produce. If you had a white light and a red light of the same brightness, the red light would be way more expensive and way hotter for next to no benefit.
>>5115046They don't actually use the full spectrum do they? They use mostly red and blue and make an effort to reflect green and infrared. Our eyes adjust when indoors so we don't get a good objective read on light level, which does need to be high enough.
>>5115046>>5115078As long as you have a light between 9000 and 12000 lumens in brightness and around 5000k or 6500k color temp you will have a grow light as good as sunlight. You can get LED projector units for less than $50 easy, but it needs to be setup properly as how far the light is from the plant will affect lumen. Blue v red v UV is just weed farmer lore and not something to worry about.
>>5115114Sorry I didn't mean to emphasize the blue-red thing so strongly. I should have said it the other way around.
Did /plant/ replace the HMG general threads from a few years ago?
Which plant is the least Jewish?
>>5115465Pumpkins of Manpukuji
I bought a japanese maple and I'm gonna grow it on my balcony
Grass is very important.
>>5115551Nice. Plant some oxalis in the container for a companion plant and living mulch.
My poppies are coming up strong.
>>5115581What are their names?
>>5115587They're papaver somniferum.Was getting worried about my milkweed surviving the winter, since I planted it pretty late last year but after rooting around a bit I found the namesake tuber of asclepias tuberosa. Looking forward to more monarchs this year!
Getting the potting mix for Lithops right is so confusing. I found some sand that I thought I would mix in because I like the color of it and its big enough that I can easily pick out each individual grain in the container, I'm second guessing myself.Anybody here actually keep Lithops?
>>5114032more like Strokesia
Almost have a house so I can make a pollinator garden. Have been collecting seeds from my hikes.
I want to start air layering my starfruit tree because I only have one and if a hurricane takes it out I'll be sad. Is there any reason to buy and use those little plastic air layering balls/pods that seem to have exploded in popularity instead of the classic saran wrap + tin foil?
>>5115551Acers are great, the red ones are the most popular but I actually prefer the green ones.
>>5116260i'm at 3400 dollars out of however many milliononly 20+ more years to go!
>>5116363the government doesn't want you to know this but you can just plant seeds anywhere on the planet without owning the land as long as the land owners or authorities don't catch you
>>5116375AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIS THAT...NOT GRASS???????>mows your lawn>pulls out your weeds
>what i thought were elderberry cuttings grew leaves and are actually boxeldersNow what. I don't really want them
>>5117325boxelder bugs are sick as fuck keep them
1 of my 34 chili seedlings have survived from last year as I went through a gauntlet of trial and error growing for the first time. It is currently in a 1L pot indoors but I am now planning to re-pot it into a larger one in time for last frost so I can leave it outdoors for the remainder of spring and summer.My question is though is HOW big should the new pot be? Everywhere says 10L - 20L is ideal and I already have a 15L pot on hand, but apparently chilis will grow as big as the pot is wide and that you can go 30L+ for high yields. I want to be able to overwinter it indoors as the cold here kills chilis late autumn to winter so I can't just dump it in a 300L growbag and call it a day, but at the sametime I would like a nice high yield chili plant. Is there diminishing returns the bigger you go?
>>5117423>Everywhere says 10L - 20L is idealDo you know how many varieties there are of Capsicum? some grow up to be 2-3m tall, some other do not go over 1m, just double the size of the pot as the plant fill it with roots.If you have the right climate bring it outside and allow it to have more than 10 hours of sunlight, since now it's in a 1 liter pot, if it filled it with roots put it in a 2L, then 4, 8 and so on. It's useless to put it in a giant pot, it will not grow faster, it will most likely grow slower because to control the moisture to avoid root rot you will most likely underwater it.
>>5117993>Do you know how many varieties there are of Capsicum? some grow up to be 2-3m tall, some other do not go over 1m, just double the size of the pot as the plant fill it with roots.From what I have been able to identify by the foilage it's capsicum chinense, so I think it's going to be on the wider side.>if it filled it with roots put it in a 2L, then 4, 8 and so on. It's useless to put it in a giant pot, it will not grow faster, it will most likely grow slower because to control the moisture to avoid root rot you will most likely underwater itI understand it will not increase growth speed, but from what I have read there is a correlation with maximum size and the width that roots are allowed to grow into. But I am sure you can appreciate my current position in that it's not easy to find a pot like a 2L that is specifically really wide as aposed to tall, so that is why I consider larger overall volume. As for root rot you have a point, but I typically only really water the chili when it wilts, so would root rot still be a concern with watering habits in a pot larger than 2L?
Update on the grape fruit tree that I grew from grocery store bought fruit. Just moved it into a bigger pot.It grows very rarely but when it does it grows super fast. Some of the large leaves on the top appeared this spring.
>>5118077how do you care for it? do you fertilize it with something?whenever I tried planting any citrus seeds they'd always just (seemingly randomly) die at some point no matter how I cared for themand even when I had multiple seedlings they'd always all die at the very same time and I could never figure out what's the secret to keeping them alive for a long time
>>5118093I have never fertilized it with anything. I just water it whenever the soil dries
https://youtu.be/LmKBcO8k_hA
>>5118024>capsicum chinenseWe are talking about a plant that will reach 1 meter, maybe 1,5m if you are lucky, you end goal is a 7 to 10 gallon, 25 to 35L, pot.> I have read there is a correlation with maximum size and the width that roots are allowed to grow intoNearly all plant when there isn't anymore space to grow their roots, they stop growing both the roots and the aerial part of the plant because they stop producing Cytokinin, this isn't a problem if the pot is big enough or if you transplant it into a bigger pot. Chili plant want costant water but don't want to stay neither dry, or moist for too long, they need to consume the water fast enough to avoid to cause root rot, to manage this you will most likely water it less and around the base, reducing the ammount of nutrient the plant can take and the possible space the roots can explore, limiting the growth.>But I am sure you can appreciate my current position in that it's not easy to find a pot like a 2LI'm sorry if I came off as rude and if I worded it in a measleading way, what I meant is to go and double the volume of the pot at the plant outgrow it, it doesn't need to be precise, personally the one I use are a 0,10L for germination, a 2L (10x8x7) one for starter, a 6L (15x12x10), then a 17L one (20x17x15) and if required a 27L one (24x20x18) before putting them in their "forever pot". You are a beginner, it's best to go a litter safer than going big, putting it now in a forever pot like a 35L one now that, I imagine, is still small, probably below 20cm, specially in summer could make you overwater the chili and kill it in the process, costant increase reduce this risk and allow for better watering schedule.Just a word of advice, but I think you are already there, do not water on a precise time, water when needed, once a week is useless if the pot is still moist, wait for it to dry the superficial part, Oxygen in the soil is as important as water, and they occupy the same space.
>>5118298Thank you anon, I really appreciate the advice. I will leave it be then for the time being and when it starts to outgrow the 1L I will then look to double it's volume to a 2L and go from there.
>>5118173sexo
explain what would be wrong with me johnny appleseeding a bunch of sempervivums around my city and letting them grow in concrete corners and """"""nature strips""""" where grass hasn't completely taken over
Trying to start a native plant garden. First one on my list to actually hunt for is assclapaings niggergenetalia
Is this a baby tree? I left a plum on the ground in this approximate area last year and then I saw this
Nu-gardening is either growing "edibles" in raised beds or obsessing about "native plants" (and "native pollinators"). How far horticulture has fallen.
>>5119161I love my Black Turmeric × Mango Ginger Hybrid idea though... >>5119152Yes I believe it is!
>>5119161People really stretch the definition of edible, talking about it like a nutrient supplement or daily medicine, which are things they shouldn't need anyway. There's nutrition and health value in actual food too. I think they're just too lazy to keep looking for stuff that tastes good and just go with whatever seeds are commonly available or what people on TikTok say they use for a tonic or whatever.
>>5119161Gardening is still one of the most popular hobbies in the UK, it hasn't fallen here.
>>5119161I mostly agree with native plants but I fucking hate their superiority complex. It's what turned me away from the community. And they're actually kind of fucking stupid and don't even understand how the ecosystem works.
How often do I need to change the Garlic cloves in my plant?
>>5119192Ive even heard them refer to non-native cultivars as "ornamentals".They have this weird rewilding fantasy and completely miss the point of what a garden is in the first place.
>The sheer volume of forsythia blooming near me is absolutely insane. My wife and I were driving yesterday and nearly every single house has one on their property, either intentionally part of the landscape or escaped nearby. >I think I have a new least favorite shitty plant - it’s the perfect example of ecologically useless spreading bullshit that shades out natives and does nothing for insect life and the color just makes it so in your face.>Fuck that plant. I can’t stop thinking about it how bad it was yesterday.
>>5119161You cried about this last threadI know you are the exact same person because you're still talking your retard bullshit about how a garden can't be a habitat for anythingYou could post a fucking flower instead of crying that plants are woke now you know
>>5119259And you're still seething about it apparently
>>5119161What is your vision of proper horticulture or edible plants?
a bug was walking around on my succulent pots todayI immediately doused all of them in pesticides because i'm a real gardener and not a trans nu-gardening hippie
>>5119419>implyingNative retards love using glyphosate in their war against anything exotic. Not surprising though considering the concept of "noxious weeds" was invented by Monsanto.
>>5119419>natives dont get pestsI thought the whole point was to attract their pests to help them out
https://youtu.be/HnPnze24emg?si=Z3wMbgg3fKP_ajfX
what do i do with this
>>5119841https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_and_the_Beanstalk
>>5119841https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grow_light
AI told me that you can't put multiple strawberries in the same pot. Why can't you do that with strawberry but you can put over 9000 chives or oregano or something in the same pot? Are strawberries really loners who don't like company?
I hope AI tells you to kill yourself
>>5120033just do it anyway, the ai can't stop you. let nature teach you instead.
>>5119940>>5119995
>>512003399.9% of plants can be planted in a shared pot, strawberries included. But when you have two or more plants share the same pot you will have both plants compete for soil nutrients and moisture while at the same time there is always a risk of the roots getting intangled, damaging or outright killing one or both the plants in the process. However, even with a case where both plants successfully establish themselves in a shared pot you are going to have heavily reduced yields, typically in proportion to the amount of plants. So if you have two tommato plants in one pot for instance both plants will almost exactly produce 1/2 of their actual potential yield, while 3 plants will be 1/3 yield and so on and so forth. All the while remember you have the added risk for poor plant health with no upside to yield.Then you have strawberries.Strawberries don't do well in pots and the last thing you want to do is have two seperate ones share a pot. Why? Because mature strawberries create "runners", long stems that seek out untapped soil and produce a clone plant of the original that created the runner. So if you really wanted multiple strawberries you would only need one with optimal conditions and a large enough pot that the strawberry would be comfortable enough with to produce runners into. So with that we can do some crude math:>strawberry minimum recomended pot size is 6×6 inches or about 3L/1Gal>for a pot that allows optimal space for 2 plants it would have to be a wide 10L/2.5Gal or potentially a non-standard 7L/2Gal pot that trades depth for an extra inch or more for width>for 4 strawberry plants, a pot that will accomadates a single strawberry plant and the bare minimum recomended allowed amount of runner stems of 3 (prunning between 30 and 50 other runners that one strawberry will produce) to produce 3 other plants will have to be a shallow 20L/5Gal>with the latter example, those 3 strawberry plants created from the one will produce runners too
>>5120033>>5120161All the while we are assuming we can keep the soil quality of that pot in good shape. Now, in my view, having to find a shallow 20L/5Gal at that point if you want to acomadate multiple plants you might as well just plant a strawberry in a garden bed or an elevated trough planter.
Why arn't (You) bendmaxxing anon?
>>5120199firing up the 3d printer right now, my stems are going to be so bent. what else do you use little gizmos and gadgets for? two part leek light blocker? air layering pods?
>>5120215You don't even really need to use bending clips, you can also use string wrapped around the pot and the stem you want bending. But clips are more "foolproof" in limiting the amount of bend you want without inflicting damage.
>>5120146Those are roses
>>5120161>don't do well in potsHow does it know that it's in a pot? What if the pot is large enough
Should I be worried about a bunch of clearly visible, fast-moving black/red mites running around on my plant? The only webbing I see is regular spider threads.Aren't spider mites sedentary and hidey? If they just eat plant juice theu'd have no reason to run around in the open, right?
>>5120283I have strawberries in moderately sized pots and they produced tons of runners last year
>>5120283>How does it know that it's in a pot?The limited space and bacterial ecosystem for one.What if the pot is large enoughAs previously outlined, yes you could. But it's going to be more tricky to pull off than directly sowing to soil.
>>5120299What are they running from
Planted in October last year in southern hemisphere. I think this is good growth for its first year. Hopefully we'll see more flowers come spring.
>>5120397>SHALOMhttps://youtu.be/_jI6iAa-cC0?si=z6B5urlNWVyWG0uL
>>5120540oh fug its the weevil
Here is my tiny little apple tree that started to grow from Granny Smith apple seed
Anyone can rec me a big reference book for aquatic plants and especially mosses?I've been hunting around for one that has big clear pictures but it's a struggle
>>5120161That's bullshit, I have strawberries in pots, three by planter (the long ones) and they give more strawberries than I can eat. And they make runners on top on that those fuckers.
>>5120741go to aquarium general, this place is worthless for anything
One of my plants
What's going on here? I scratched them and they are hard, so I assume not pest eggs. Some type of fungus?Tree is a prunus.
what if i made a guide to plant care but I put in a bunch of meme cutaways and constant zoomer sound effects like FAHH
>>5120987rip one off, squish it and see what happensi'm being serious, it will be obvious if it's some kind of new growth you've somehow never noticed or not
>>5120987galls from something
>>5121001stay ahead of the curve with the low honor ding
>>5121007ancient sound effectbut a very good one
Ok, well I suppose my first attempt at growing something from seed was not a total failure. I planted around 3 seeds per cup and only got these two guys to grow. My question is, what now. Do I just leave them there and water them appropriately or are they going to grow super fast and outgrow their container so I have to do something. The one on the left is Ginkgo biloba and the one on the right is a Japanese maple, I picked the seeds myself.
>>5121106Also this the volume they're working with it and they germinated around three weeks ago I would say.
What are your tips and tricks for growing pumpkin in a pot? In picrel is how my pumpkin plant looks so far
https://youtu.be/MaYIDSx1jZk
>>5121301What is that bush called? Beautiful
>>5121314It's an old rose called Stanwell Perpetual
I fucking hate the obsession with variegation that retards have. Wow this plant has funny colored leaves and you can buy online for $30-$200.Try going outside and growing something that you can't buy in a store. They can't because it's all a bunch of satanic impostors.
>>5121407I like when the plant goes "fuck this" and starts reverting to its normal green colorThere's a couple old trees near me that are half red half green
>>5121279It heavily depends on variety, but you're likely going to need a big pot, that's for sure. If you're not going to be transplanting to ground soil you're going to need to keep an eye on root development and repot everytime the roots stick out the bottom or hold together the soil strong enough that you can lift the plant out with the soil remaining in shape. Repot gradually and not all at once, but your pumpkin is likely going to need a 20 gallon pot/container. When you start to see flowers apply some blood & bone feed on the top of the soil to provide nutrients as pumpkins are very nutrition hungry.But again, this is all assuming we are talking about traditional pumpkin varieties.
>>5121639It's supposed to grow one kilo halloween style pumpkins
>>5121407When did plant general become 40 year olds bitching about other people enjoying random hyperspecific things as if their interest in that is a personal attack against them instead of posting plants
>>5121639Why would repotting all at once be bad? I was not gonna do it but I'm curious.
>>5121775You repot to give room to roots, which in turn, allow the plant to increase in size. If you don't repot the roots will become damaged and the plant will never reach a size that allows it to fruit (this is what bonsai is and it is why they have to trim the bonsai plants roots). But on the otherside of the coin if you repot the plant into a giant pot you will run into hydration problems. Soil is a sponge for a moisture. When you water an area of a pot it will most likely spread beyond the watered point once the stream stops running. This is a problem when you have a plant whose roots are not big enough to stretch around the width of a pot as when you water the plant the bulk of the moisture is going to be drawn out evenly across the pot, leaving very little moisture around the area of soil where actual roots are. That is why you repot gradually as by the time you get to a 20 gallon the plant has already developed roots big enough to stretch around such a wide width to collect water. In otherwords: you physically can't water a small plant effectively in a large pot and it will ironically most likely die of dehydration. Doubly so with pumpkins because they are one of if not the most water hungry of all fruit plants to care for as they need a lot of water to reach large sizes.
>>5121106>My question is, what now.Just transplant them into a bigger pot. They don't grow that fast, but if you want them to grow, they need the extra space. Is the Japanese maple a dwarf variety?>>5121107>Also this the volume they're working with it and they germinated around three weeks ago I would say.If those trays have drainage holes underneath, check if any roots are trying to escape, that's a good sign they need a bigger pot. You can also do this check with the pots you keep them in while they are small. They like to root-bound themselves, don't wait too much time.What's your objective with them? Do you want to turn them into bonsai, or will you plant them in the garden? If you plan to do the latter, check the flowers before planting the ginkgo, if it's a female, scrap it, because it will stink.
>>5120987These are probably stink bug eggs. Their chorion shell is hard.
>>5121001Go back to Tiktok
>>5121407>I fucking hate the obsession with variegation that retards have.People finally realized that foliage is as visually important as flowers in a garden.Also, most of them tend to have the same price as the original unless they are some weird variety of indoor plant.
>>5121407>I used to be with 'it', but then they changed what 'it' was. Now what I'm with isn't 'it' anymore and what's 'it' seems weird and scaryIf I can get chilis that look like this I'm sure as hell going to try and grow them gramps.
I'm starting to reach the point of disillusionment through experience where I've seen enough to not be fascinated by every slightly different plant I see and I can be more satisfied with keeping a smaller more curated collection
>>5121923That sounds depressing as fuck. Enjoying a curated collection you have built up over years is one thing but losing the joy of wonderment at discovering new plants is another. At that point it kinda seems like you're just living on autopilot. Reminds me of a greek guy I knew who owned an allotment plot who would scoff at everybody elses grows because>if you can't eat it, it's a weediirc he grew only tomatos and potatos, that was it. Meanwhile everyone else was growing all kinds of different things and varieties/cultivars and trading seeds, excited to see when the next funky thing they had would fully grow. I hope you regain that excitement someday anon.
>>5121952I'm sorry bwo but putting a different stupid name on your newest sempervivum variety doesn't stop it from just being green with reddish tips or red and fuzzyyou look long enough on etsy and every rare korean never before seen echeveria is made of the same blotchy reds and pinks
>>5114032Newfag to planting here. I live in a gay HOA and they allow plants but not food. So my issue is I need a light source but my only good light source is the patio. I dont want to make my plants too visible so is there a kind of plastic cover I could use for my screen that lets in light but is translucent enough to conceal my plants?
>>5120199Have anons started braiding plants yet?
>>5121980>and they allow plants but not foodare you that desperate to grow tomatoes?
>>5121986Maybe not desperate but Id like to. I enjoy planting.
>>5121993You realize there are a billion things you can grow that aren't vines with vegetables on them
I've never done this before but 3 out of the 10 bush beans I put in the little coco coir pellets my nursery sold have some pretty healthy looking sprouts. they were big enough to not fit under the mini greenhouse thing, so I put them in a pot.as you can tell I have no idea what im doing
>>5116406 literally happenedI started >>5118925 and put one in a patch of dry, cracked desert dirt near a building on my way to the bus stop and less than a day later it was gone
>>5121859>Is the Japanese maple a dwarf variety?I have no idea, I picked the seeds myself from a tree in the nearby park, It's about 2.5m in height but I have no idea if It's fully grown.> don't wait too much timeI heard repotting them during late spring/summer isn't a very good idea because the roots are still growing and might damage the plant, so waiting for dormancy is better, but I guess if they grow too much I would have no choice. Is giving them a pot that's too big a problem?>What's your objective with them?Probably plant them in my yard but, assuming their survive, I don't really know how long I will have to wait for that. And I don't really know how I would fix the soil problem, especially since the maple can be very sensitive and the soil in my yard is I believe a little too hard for them I believe, might have to mix it with the universal soil I use for their pots for the sowing if it ever gets to that point.
>tfw 9 fenestrationsFeelsgoodman.jpg
Fuck! I just watered my lucky bamboo with an electrolyte drinkI keep bottles of water by my plants and some asshole put one with an LMNT stick mixed in next to my plant watersI only even noticed because I went to use the same water to top off my snakes water bowl too and happened to smell lime They would've killed him tooBut anyway I wasn't sure what to do with the plant, I just flushed the roots out the best I could and ran them under water for a few minutes
>>5122157Is that...Variegation???AIEEEEE HOW DARE YOU YOU RETARD I'M LITERALLY SHAKING AND CRYING THAT YOU'D ACTUALLY BUY THAT HOLY SHIT NU-GARDENING IS RUINING THIS HOBBY SAVE ME POTATOMAN
>>5122157this made me think of this scene for some reason
>>5122289>Pots?>Heh, I only use freecycled buckets with reclaimed soil
What I find funny is that the golden age of horticulture and gardening was during colonial times where niggas would literally dress up as chinese serfs to smuggle themselves to china to get more weird looking plants and be held up as heros for it. People trying to grow new world plants in temperature controlled glass structures in shitholes like france or england, all the while crossing plants to create ornamental varieties to show off to their peers. But now you have spergs pretending to be trad gardeners through performative freak outs over people liking weird plants in threads like these.
>>5122369You say spergs plurally but the actual reality is that it is just the one schizo shitting the bed
>>5122374I really wonder whats on his approved old gardening list if you cant grow natives, can't grow anything variegated, and can't grow anything you can buy in a store
What is the purpose of a greenhouse if it's cloudy whenever it's coldI'm in Canada and I can't remember the last time there was a snowy day that had sunlightAnd wouldn't a warm greenhouse on a cloudy day just be a recipe for etiolation?And wouldn't the block out all the rain without an open roof?And wouldn't they kill all the wind without openable windows?But then why have them in a greenhouse?The FUCK is the point of a greenhouse if it's not like, building-sized and super advanced?
>>5122483It will stay a bit warmer which is the difference between something living and dying in Winter. It will also protect plants from very cold winds and not getting rained on in Winter is kind of a good thing for potted plants since they rot easily. It's just a safe place to germinate seeds and root cuttings, basically a shed with some extra niche uses. You can propagate your plants by cutting or start them really early if you heat it.
>>5122483The sun warms the earth even when there's clouds dumbass
A rotting log does more to help the ecosystem than any native plants
>>5122567Every plant is a future rotting log
>>5122567Piles of rocks, brush, or trash will also work. I've seen a lot of critters living under plastic tarps.
>>5122567how are you THIS madI wish I had some plant reaction images to make fun of you with
>>5122567bait
>>5122132>I heard repotting them during late spring/summer isn't a very good ideaI can assure you, leaving them to become rootbound in the pot is even worse.>Is giving them a pot that's too big a problem?It's always best to increase the pot size gradually, if a pot is too large, the excess soil holds too much moisture, significantly increasing the risk of root rot and if you try to water lightly to avoid rot, the water may never actually reach the root ball, causing the plant to dry out and die. (See >>5118298 my advice for the chili plant are true also for your situation)>And I don't really know how I would fix the soil problemIf you have a soil that is too hard, you can always break it up and mix it with vermicompost, then mulch the surface. This will introduce beneficial bacteria into the soil acts as a magnet for earthworms, they will come up to eat the decaying mulch, digging tunnels and tilling the soil for you 24/7.Also, try planting some nitrogen-fixing flowers with deep taproots, like lupins.When these plants start to flower, cut them down at the soil level and leave the roots in the ground, this will introduce organic matter and, as the taproots decompose, leave behind deep channels for air and water, permanently aerating the soil.
>>5122189>I just watered my lucky bamboo with an electrolyte drinkFlush the roots immediately with pure distilled or rainwater, wash the vase, and replace the water entirely. Dracaenas are usually tough to kill, but the high salts content will burn the roots, and the sugar will cause rapid bacterial rot.
what's wrong with my olive tree? the leaves on top look really drab, almost like if the plant was dying, while at the same time there's this really healthy looking new sprout near the base, indicating a healthy root system. should I just give it a good shower and see how it reacts?
>>5123244Not enough light
>>5123285That can't be it, it gets 10+ hours of direct sunlight as it's on a southwest facing balcony
>>5123244You're watering it with mineral rich water, every leaf getting covered in it and blocking the pores.
>>5123404looks pretty shady to me
It looks like one of my plumeria's got rust. I think it came this way and I didn't notice. The other ones seem to be fine so I don't want it to spread. Is there any way to actually cure this? Like if I take a cutting can I get rid of the rust? It's my favorite color one
>tfw you don't look in your garden for 3 days and there is Nutgrass sprouts everywhere
I have monstera yellow marilyn. Every once in a while there will be new beautiful almost half moon leaf but eventually the pure yellow part of the leaf will start browning from the bottom and will continue to do so until there is no yellow left. The green part is always fine, even the marbled leaves are fine. How do I prevent this?It has nice airy substrate so I don't think it's overwatering, maybe the light is too much? I gave it direct light as there isn't much of it in the room(maybe 3 hours of proper light, rest of the day it's kinda meh, seedlings are always leggy no matter what)
>>5123955You know why leaves are green?Now imagine how a non green leaf will survive.
>Want to get into plant breeding since it seems cool to try to develop something that is at least somewhat unique, even if its not really new or special>Look into what might be needed and what plants it would work well with, especially ones that grow quicker and have shorter life cycles>Start to get overwhelmed by possibilities>Start thinking about ticking clock, how there are only so many more years left in my life span if I wanted to really get into this>Keep holding off and making excuses>All the while the clock is ticking>Still haven't even settled on a plant to try this on, let alone actually planting anything>The clock keeps ticking, possibilities shriveling up each year>I'll start next year though, just you wait>Starting to really think about what it means to die and how little time I have leftI thought growing plants was supposed to be relaxing.It took me about a month to post this too, I kept thinking about it but didn't do it. I'd say I want to kill myself but I'll probably never get around to it.
>>5114032is moss superior to grass?
>>5124145they're both wildly successful ecosystem engineers that shape the world around them by existingbut i hate grass in the context of its proximity to humans so yes
Rabbits keep eating my lupines and sunflowers. I need to engineer a way to protect them.
>>5124276You can use a .22 12 foot pound pellet airgun to humanely dispatch them, bonus points for a PCP mechanism which are very quiet to not spook neighbors but an old break action will still work if it's .22 with a minimum of 12 foot pounds of force out the muzzle. Obviously .22lr will work too, but I don't think most places will be too happy having you blasting rabbits with a friday night special or ruger.But if you don't want to get your hands dirty like that try a sonic repeller or install one of those rotating motion sensitive spray towers. The latter is good for other things too like cats or squirrels trying to fuck your garden up and arn't too expensive to get, solar powered too, just need to stay on top of their water.
Ever since I have gotten into gardening my perception of being in a suburb surrounded by rural woods and parks has changed a lot. More specifically, I am starting to see the barriers around woodland, streams or public flower beds become very arbitrary and I am growing to disregard the attitude most people seem have around "look don't touch" with that kind of thing. I keep seeing wooded areas and thinking about just planting my own stuff around there, like designated a patch to grow some deep taproot plants like comfrey that people such as ground wardens can mowdown but wont ever be able to get rid of, or plant some root veg like potato where it doesn't really matter if you try to cut them down as they will mostly remain under the ground. I have also been paying a lot more attention to what plants are around me and what I could take whole sale or just cuttings of. Most public plant bed areas are full of native thug flowers, but every house here has a drive or front garden which have more interesting stuff. There is one house I have already bookmarked which has massive poppy flowers which I will be harvesting for seeds when they are ready, but I have already took some neglected cordyline australis from an abandoned house which I am trying to nurse as well as some variegated ivy I have taken cuttings of which I am trying to root. Has anyone else kind of gotten to this perspective with gardening with your surroundings just being kind of free real estate?
>>5124276plant more and attract more bunnieswatch the bunniesbefriend the bunnies
>>5124276how dense are your sunflowers? tomato cages are good if you have them laying around and it's just a few giant ones.
I was going to ask a question here but I stopped typing after a couple of words because I realized nobody here would be able to answer even a simple question
>>5124668Go on then
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>>5124670>>5124672Do air plants grow better when their roots are attached to something?Are they effectively going to waste resources on bigger and bigger roots until they find a hard surface to wrap around?Do you actually know? Or are you just going to say "Eh it probably doesn't matter" just to have an answer now that you've set up these posts?
>>5124676As long as they get nutrients they should be fine. Hydroponic plants are only supported at the main stem like air plants but with the roots free to drift in a hydroponic solution with no support and work out great.
>>5124676Eh it probably doesn't matter
>>5124668You're probably the "hate native plant", which I still believe is OP trying to artificially up the thread. If you aren't, while I don't appreciate the way you asked this, I'm still going to answer so you have the correct information>>5124676>Do air plants grow better when their roots are attached to something?Compared to potting them in a classic bark and perlite mix? Yes. When mounted instead of potted, the plant won't waste resources trying to fight root rot, and it will benefit from vastly improved aeration and stability.>Are they effectively going to waste resources on bigger and bigger roots until they find a hard surface to wrap around?The hardness of the surface doesn't influence root growth, it's the stability that matters, this is governed by a biological process known as Mechanotransduction.When an air plant is unattached and subjected to movement or wind, the physical strain causes an influx of calcium ions, triggering the release of stress hormones, like ethylene, and altering the flow of auxin, in this stressed state, the plant directs its metabolic resources toward developing an extensive root system to secure anchorage. If it's stable instead the plant stops wasting resources on unnecessary root proliferation and successfully redirects its energy toward foliage growth and blooming.
>>5124720thank you anongpt
>>5124676There are different kind of plants. Shit that just grows normally straight up, then there's crawlers and climbers. So if your plant is a climber, yes, attach it to something that can hold moisture.Pic related, my thai con, it grew away from the pole at the beginning, and there's hardly any aerial roots in that section, and when it made contact again, it went crazy.
>>5124677>>5124724do you even know what an air plant is??
>>5124727These fuckers? Again >>5124677 stands, you don't need to worry about root support. Or are you getting mixed up with air layering plants?
Wheres a good place to buy glass for terrariums? There are huge charity shops near me but they dont really do large glassware (or it goes fast).Ive never done a terrarium before so Im not sure how small they can be.My country has a huge pickling and jam(ming?) culture so its not hard to get bigger jars but not sure if theyre big enough for it.Are closed terrariums easier than open ones? My apartment is very dry (central air system) so Im worried it would dry out.What plants are the easiest to not kill for terrariums?
>>5124751Oh I live in europe(dk) if it matters
>>5124751Is glass a must? If so I would shill vivariums if you want a cheap enclosure for plant life. People are always trying to get rid of open and closed ones on facebook marletplace or ebay. Also pothos, does things are incredibly hardy. Look into some bark backing slabs too and vivarium moss solutions to make moss carpets
>>5124727A plant made of air?
>>5124426As long as you aren't chopping down redwoods for marijuana farms like they do in California why not. There is plenty of public land that just sits there and nobody actually takes care of. Better if it's you planting herbs rather than a homeless shitting up the place.
>>5124771all plants are made of air if you think about it
>>5124900Indeed
>>5124465I put some chicken wire around a couple tomato cages to protect the sunflowers. Fortunately i planted them pretty close together.
>>5124763Not really! Are vivariums plastic, like acrylic? In my country theyre both called terrariums so theyre easy to find.I have this vase(?) Could I use it? Its not totally transparent its about 110mm tall
Wollemia bros, wya??
>>5125400Vivariums can be acrylic, but a lot of the proper ones are glass. The vase can also potentially work if you have a good cover and happy with using a lot of moss culture
>>5125429Thank you. Yeah I dont mind the moss. I was consideribg buying a cock board a:d cutting a lid - would that be sufficient?
Some sundews are starting to come up!
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Reminder to not top your plants and to instead bend them for bushiness.
Anyone have experience with Edithcolea Grandis or Stapelia Variegata? I'm considering getting one at somepoint.
>>5125622i'll let it grow how it wants thanks
>>5125710>won't even engage in rope and binding for his plant-fuShamefull.
>>5125733bondage is SHIT
>>5125734Yeah>Super>Hot>Imseminating>Treatment
>>5123453No ideas? It's looking not so good
Went to local plant cafe that had nearly 100 terrariums. Can dump a bunch but dont want to spam the thread
one of the neighbors keeps giving the squirrels peanuts and they are tearing up my succulents. I've already lost three plants. What steps can I take here?
>>5125756Automatic spray tower or a crosman 2240
>>5125759I am going to first try a layer of rocks in the planters and see if that helps encourage the fuckers to dig somewhere else.
>>5125710Plants are your slaves and should conform to your needs.
do yall automate your watering with drippers and sprinklers and sprayers?
>>5125762I need them to grow how they want
>>5125762Plants have thoughts and feelings too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucWgAZQDeoE
>>5125831It feels like while plants may actually have wants, and get stressed, their desires are indistinguishable from their basic functions, and the things that stress them are indistinguishable from things that impede those functions.Like, a plant will be at its most healthy when it has the right light, the right soil, the right water, etc. But that's just it being healthy. So is it happy, or healthy? Does the distinction matter if both are inextricably correlated?The same thing happens when a plant is "stressed". If it's stressed, it's because something's wrong. The light, water, soil is wrong, it's not getting enough of something. This causes it "stress", but is it in any way distinguishable from simply causing a decline in health?Like, a plant "wants" light in the same way I "want" to eat. The same way an insect "wants" to eat. Your cells essentially force you through chemical signals to get them what they "want" to continue to exist. It feels like plants get gold stars and pats on the back for just... being alive. "Oh, they can determine light from dark, they literally see! oh my god that's insane!" "They actually respond to outside stimuli and communicate with each other through chemical signals! Woaaaahhhh that's blowing my mind!!!" But like, cells do these things. Microbes do these things. Plants are so entrenched in people's minds as visual background noise like the sky or an ocean that it feels like every time we discover that these autonomous living things actually... do ANYTHING, it's a new revolution in our understanding that plants are basically sentient and actually when AI progresses enough we'll learn the secret language of plant society and it's like, when we observe the behavior of insects or other animals we don't say these things. Why does it feel like even scientists can barely comprehend that plants aren't just inanimate objects, and that every sign of life we actually see in them is some kind of mind-destroying revelation?
>>5125883I also don't understand while even if we're making a debate on how "Erm, animals aren't the default, plants are just as important as a form of life, don't be zoocentric", we still can't accept that plants are probably just retarded, basal life with no form of higher conciousness. By trying to argue that plants are actually just as intelligent as an animal, and have desires and feelings like an animal, she is actively perpetuating the idea of the animal as the default, and that creatures with discernable minds or feelings are inherently more valuable or worthy of consideration, because plants are actually those things so they actually matter way more than you zoocentrists think they do!It feels like people just can't not project their ideas from bedtime fairy tales about the ancient sage forest that has eons of wisdom because it's so old and beyond you, when the reality is way, way more likely that no, the branch isn't thinking about the secrets of the universe, the branch is going "Mmmm, light" in an even more abstract and basic way than a lizard would. And that's fine! Intelligence is not the only survival strategy. Consciousness has only helped anything reproduce in the tiniest most infinitesimal shred of recent time. An animal doesn't have to be intelligent to be worth respecting as life, just like an insect doesn't and a plant doesn't. And continually trying to say that plants are actually intelligent and that's why we should care about them defeats any point she's actually trying to make from any real philosophical perspectiveThough I understand that she's basically forced to dress it up like this, regardless of whether or not she realizes her own hypocrisy, is because appealing to the bedtime stories and telling people they're just like (You)! is the only way you could ever possibly even begin to try to get normies to actually give a shit about anything other than themselves.
>>5125883I was thinking of growing toon leaves but the tree grows fast and very upright and narrow. To get a good crop I'd need to coppice them, but I was thinking it might be easier to select a few branches and simply bend them into a cordon or lyre shape. I can't imagine harvesting the damn thing the way the Chinese do with a huge pole. I'm pretty sure it would enjoy being an awkward shape more than it would enjoy getting regularly hacked to the ground for several years straight.
>vegansUhh.
>>5125895/plant/ reply accuracy>>5125896nigga do you even know what a vegan ispost a single place in either of those posts i said anything remotely vegan sounding so i can call you retarded
So when did you finally realize soil and sunlight was merely a suggestion anon?
>>5125966I did hydro tomatoes on my small table way before I had any piece of land. Now I dont do any veg, since table is occupied and the small property gets raided by rabbits and deer.
>>5125970>I did hydro tomatoes on my small table way before I had any piece of landNice, what kind of setup? DWC/Kratky?
>>5125986Just bunch of jars and pots with kratky. I've had it for few years and grew bunch of things. Tomatoes, cabbage, some herbs, physalis... maybe more, it's like 10 years back.
