Is it just me or is this behavior kind of fucked up?
>>5117414I wish retards would stop applying human morality onto wild animals
>>5117433Why not?Cruel behaviour is bad...What if a rapist said that you just can't see how in his pov, what he's doing is perfectly fine?
>>5117414Tool use is neat and they've used it to expand their diet just like we did.
>>5117437a rapist is still a human though, your comparison falls flat
>>5117414the females find it an attractive trait, but unlike humans, their serial killers don't have to worry about getting put in prison
It's probably one of the coolest things to ever evolve ever but yeah it's very cruel and brutal.
>>5117439Species don't exist in themselves... If you're argument relies on it being allowed in an arbitrary other species then it's baseless... How does a name affect wether something is good or bad?The scientist argument for letting nature be is that other animals don't have access to our knowledge and sensibilities therefore it'd be dumb to use our moral criterias on them...My counter argument is that since every individual has its own sensibilities, we should ratger agree on a general set of morals and impose it in everyone even animals...So animal rapists should be put in prison Only do-gooders according to generally agreed human morals should be able to reproduceThat's what we should use our power over otger animals for.
>>5117437Rape isnt universally bad. You can not make a universal moral statement. Without a judging god or magic system like karma, those do not exist. When you say rape is bad, you are transmitting your internal state. Your conditioned visceral and cognitive reactions to scenarios real and imagined. It might seem that it must be bad because everyone agrees, especially the rape victims (which triggers your mirror neuron empathy) but that’s because thinking rape is bad is the more evolutionarily fit idea. It’s more common for the same reason having fins in the water is more common. The idea itself is what is fit, like a bacteria that does not kill and instead enhances its host. Among those with mirror neuron empathy tuned to humans, you can spread your passion for justice like a bacteria. Eventually populations evolve to default to this behavior like cells evolving to contain new organelles from the start. People who think rape is good are basically meta-evolved societal parasites burdened by parasites that can only meet with limited success. Also slowly evolving to default to harboring the neurological symbiote from birth.
>>5117495See this big wall of absurdity? See how universal moral statements are non functional unless arbitrarily limited? You would destroy the world in this delusional hubris, and just as you pushed it past the tipping point the world would, in its imbalance and to take advantage of your preoccupation, destroy you, and the mental infection you harbor. That’s because universal morality doesnt exist. Its like working with an incorrect model of physics and adding epicycles to try and make it work. Except it’s also a less fit symbiote that encourages self harming behavior like veganism and preferring nonhumans over humans, as seen in this figure of the infamously misinterpreted moral circle study. Moral circle heatmap = approximated location of nearest enemy or moral non-object (ie: you can not value all people in all nations if there is any group, ie: a genocidal apartheid state or terrorist pedophile theocracy, you would not even sympathize with if it were nuked, therefore the heatmap cuts off there)This figure = how people actually claim to, choose to, think about moralityLeft end = less fit. sick. the moral idea is not a symbiote anymore. it is a parasite, an infection, it exerts too much control over its host and no longer confers an advantage in survival. right end = humans uninfected by the egalitarian mind virus or harboring a functional low level infection that confers a survival advantage by increasing national cooperation and enabling better animal husbandry
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>>5117495>>5117437Smartest servant of enlil (moloch/jehova)>>5117500>>5117498Smartest disciple of enki (prometheus/lucifer)
>>5117437>>5117495so in your worldview all carnivores are just inherently cruel and bad
>>5117506He’s so dedicated to baseless slave morals prescribed by his master that he is opposed to life itself. A slaves rules without its masters arbitrary commands is dysfunctional indeed.
Why does he do it? Usually male birds do extremely retarded shit for cloaca, so blame women (one thing every species has in common).
>>5117414it's a form of food storage, looks gruesome but isn't any more cruel than other predators are
>>5117514He evolved to become a predator but lacks the sharp, powerful talons to hold things in place while he tears with the beak.
nothing about this is cruel in the slightest, shrikes kill their prey quickly and only after their death spike them onto things for food storage compare this to the countless animals that actually eat their prey alive and it's downright merciful
>>5117568right? there's no way this is comparatively worse than lions eating a water buffalo alive asshole first
Traumatised children who watched The Animals of Farthing Wood, how are we holding up?
>>5117498Holy shit shut the fuck up retard.
>>5117433Human opinions are the only ones that matter. Therefore I can say that shrikes are metal af and cool, if not a little fucked up. It literally doesn't matter.
>>5117502Enki creates life. Enlil takes life.
>>5117568This here, morally its no different than humans setting up meat on racks to dry them for later use.
>>5117506yes, killing is bad, we should rather strive towards symbiosis where we eat the products of plants in exchange for spreading them around the galaxy
>>5117767>vegan gobbledygook
>>5117767I'd chop you up, put you on a stake, and save you for later <3
>>5117697life is a cycle of death and struggle, so to create it is to end it, and to end it is to stop it - stagnation and enslavement.
circle of life my brother