>If someone tried to milk your cat, you would probably ask them to stop.Cat owners, is this true?
>pic: commie thinks it owns all the livestockkek @ vegans
If someone wanted to milk my cow they can if they ask first. Vegans btfo
>>5123195I would drink any kind of milk if it was reasonably safe. Mostly vegetarian though
>>5123195>you would probably ask them politely to stop>you would probably call the policeAre vegans all a bunch of soft faggots terrified of being assertive,
>>5123195Carnism isn't that weird - mammals are one thing, but the average person has zero empathetic feelings towards, say, insects.
>>5123235As someone who was a vegan for four years. Yes.
>>5123195I would probably punch them in the face, but I'm not a vegan
>>5123195>If someone tried to milk your cat, you would probably ask them to stop.Damn right I would.
>>5123267What made you change your mind?
>>5123261Carnism doesn’t exist. It’s not a position. It’s the nameless default because it is a fact of measurable reality that not all animals are the same and not all animals have the same worth relative to our own species.I’ll pre-empt the usual ethics tards>OUGHT THEY DOE?Per what fucking religious scripture? Measurable, perceptible reality is that not all animals are the same species and have varying levels of utility and impact on human well being.Let’s live in reality for a minute and see why "carnism" is (an absurd name given to good sense to villify it before vegans RELIGIOUS BELIEFS)We are humans and when we act in our own species favor we do well and are not attacked by other humans and we aren’t killed by ruthless nature (weather disease etc) so easily.A cat is not a cow. A dog is not a pig. A person is not a chicken. People who kill dogs and cats in particular tend to hurt other humans. This effect doesn’t manifest for slaughtering and hunting other animals unless poor dumb humans have to struggle to kill hundreds per day. Ergo carnivores are off the menu, legally, to protect us from those people and factory farming is bad for human safety. Sick, hurt, and overcrowded animals pose a great variety of risks to people so factory farming is bad for human safety. Total meat intake is associated with life expectancy worldwide, the longest lived and healthiest people have all ate a moderate amount of meat, humans have the shortest and most acidic digestive tract of any primate, humans have deeper and sharper molar cusps than any primate, we have the same fermentative capacity as a percentage of our total digestive tract as a cat (meaning we are very poorly adapted to digesting most plant matter), and “healthy” vegans depend on global imports and manufactured supplements to be deficient in “inessential” (for survival, not well being or peak development) nutrients. Yeah, we’re eating meat. GRASS FED meat. In moderation.
>>5123306>we have the same fermentative capacity as a percentage of our total digestive tract as a cat (meaning we are very poorly adapted to digesting most plant matter)Was with you until you got here. Not only are fruits highly digestible “in nature”, we are capable of getting nutrients from complex carbs and grains. Bread existed for thousands of years before mass agriculture. >and “healthy” vegans depend on global imports and manufactured supplements to be deficient in “inessential” (for survival, not well being or peak development) nutrients.99.999% of humanity’s food, omnivore or not, depends on the global supply chain. That’s why it’s easier to rebrand the same product as “healthier” than actually meaningfully change it (see: GLP-1 friendly food items). The vegan argument is that it is much more resource intensive to farm animals than even the most comparable plants (cocoa).
>>5123305My ex convinced me to eat meat again. Though I have started again slowly to stop eating meat. I don't eat anything from a mammal.
>>5123337Most plant matter is literally indigestible to us anon. We eat it just to have bulkier turds. >uh MOST PPL depend on importsMost people are jeetsIn human lands anyone can be food self sufficient with a garden and ten chickens in a closed system and there is ample farmland to feed apartment cucks, and ample ag waste to feed livestock actual livestock feed instead of corn. The system is the problem, not the sustenance. > The vegan argument is that it is much more resource intensive to farm animals than even the most comparable plants (cocoa).Wow, humans need resources to fully develop and function at their peak. Shocking. Welcome to a high trophic level. Go be malnourished and import dependent like a jeet in india. The human man eats meat. We do not need to feed as many jeets as possible with as few resources as possible to prop up fiat debt ponzi schemes ffs. Depopulation is coming whether you want it or not.
>>5123235I’m a vegan and you’re a fucking retard if you hang out in the board for animal lovers while having zero issues with their slaughter.>>5123346You have zero principles if a relationship was enough to make you revert.>>5123306>>5123460The only supplement I take that I couldn’t just grow in my backyard is B12, which livestock is injected with anyways. I don’t see why it’s such an issue to take one imported supplement when consistently eating meat can fuck up your health compared to a vegan diet. Growing crops to feed livestock to feed us is more convoluted than just growing crops and them going straight to us.
>>5123235>vegan is assertive: WOW THEY'RE ALL CRAZY BLUE HAIRED LIBERAL PSYCHOPATHS WITH CRAZY LOOKS IN THEIR EYES>vegan is soft: WOW THEY'RE ALL SOFT F-WORDSno winning with you incels is there
>>5123306>This effect doesn’t manifest for slaughtering and hunting other animalsYeah because as a society we're desensitized to it. That's the problem.
>>5123481people will blame veganism for any short comings in your life. god forbid if you're sick or cosmetically afflicted, there's that veganism at work!
>>5123467i love animals for their ability to kill other animals, to deny them is to deny their nature, its like telling a bird not to fly or a fish not to swim, its their nature to do so and to deny them that is to be inhumane
>>5123486>i love watching lions kill zebras for survival therefore we should build cow murder/rape centersYou don’t need the McDonalds cheeseburger that badly anon.
>>5123489but thats our nature has humans, to tame the land and animals to our needs, again, to do otherwise is inhumane
>>5123490Is it really? Humans are very adaptable. If I’m doing just fine eating beans and tofu I don’t think it’s a part of my inherent nature. Meat used to be a luxury only for the rich.
>>5123195I would step back and watch as my cats scratched them to pieces. You can't touch the belly.
>>5123491humans really arent that adaptable, we just kept shaping the environment to our needs; we didnt grow thick layers of blubber and fur for dealing with the cold, we killed animals for theirs, built insulated shelters, made fire
>>5123467>i can supplement with a pooly bioavailable essential nutrient and just miss out on all the shit that results in vegans having higher rates of mental illness and vegan children being shorter and dumber than their properly fed peersGreat, but that’s a diet for literal slaves, and oversocialized elite leeches that dont care how much they downgrade themselves because their ancestors started them off with a bit of superiority.>eating meat fucks up your healthRepeating this bald faced lie won’t make it true. It’s a “circumcision has benefits” kind of disinfo. It’s objectively shit science with an evil ideological twist. >there is no safe level of LDL actually>we compared health conscious neurotics to lazy mcdonalds people who were also wealthy>also all non essential tax cattle must go vegan to save the planet and also save some meat for actual important people>just think we could have 16 billion in pods and carbon emissions from agriculture would remain unchanged, resulting in zero need to cut back on consumerism and private jets>wait are you still recording?>-baron nigga de rothschilde
Vegans are usually slightly b12 deficient despite supplementsAlways D3, DHA, heme, taurine creatine and carnosine deficientEat a fucking egg>but ethicallyNone of your ethics are real. Big fucking deal, you ate a chicken’s bodily byproduct. Vegan ethics are deduced from their emotionally driven conclusion all the way back to their mystical governing principles. But under the bullshit the vegan is basically a child who feels sad when smily face balloons pop. A living testament to how badly unnatural lifestyles can deform human psychology.
>>5123541youd have to eat 5 times the amount of eggs compared to meat though, they unironically need to eat the bug
>>5123195>if someone tried to kill your dogOn my property? I'm aiming for a leg and taking a shot with my .22 pistol.
Sorry herbivores, but this is the life G-d chose for you.
