>"We often talk of saving the planet, but the truth is we must do these things to save ourselves">“Why wouldn’t we want to do these things? Giving people a greater opportunity of life is what we want to do anyway. The trick is to raise the standard of living around the world, without increasing our impact on that world.”I don't get if he's trying to reach to public that doesn't give a fuck about life, or if he genuinely thinks it life doesn't matter and that the biosphere is its own god. How many more shots at producing intelligent life does Earth have? Parrots are dependent on forest cover, so are chimps. If people take their land, there's no more parrots period. I couldn't care whether people die or starve, I care when species are lost.And what's the big idea of "developing countries into sustainability"? That's not real. Rules of capitalism don't change for the third world, neither does the idea that wealth is personal. If a rich guy in south america is failing, he fucks off to Europe to live as middle class, the fate of the continent doesn't matter to those who can save themselves.Besides, developed countries are exhausted, with zero wild, only after lacking all wild they pass the cost of luxury to the human population, it's because the people have started to struggle that they stop getting kids, not because they become enlightened or some "standard of living".Instead of shrinking with modern facilities, developing countries are bloating. Cities are on their way to become metropolis, suburbs are becoming satellite cities, and rural areas new suburbs. Deforestation INCREASES with third world development, not the other way around. To the entrepreneur, Growth equals new opportunity, new opportunity means free rein to exploit existing resources. Those resources become hereditary land grabs diluted in a legal cobweb.I don't get how did the World Economic Forum start to promote that koolaid, or why fucking nobody calls it out as the death knoll it is.
>>5123877This could have been 2 lines. No one's impressed by rambling anymore this isn't the 90s.
>>5123887>Third world development isn't reducing the population and reforestation is nowhere to be seen>Why is Attenborough defending such a flimsy proposal?
>>5123877>it's because the people have started to struggle that they stop getting kids, not because they become enlightened or some "standard of living".This is just demonstrably untrue. People are struggling a hell of a lot more in the Congo than Canada but birthrates are vastly higher in the former. Standard of living is the only thing that correlates with declining birth rates across the globe, not "struggle" or women's rights or whatever other copes people like to invent. The simple truth is that most people just either don't want to have kids at all or if they do they only want 1 or 2, very few people actually want to raise 3+ children if they have the ability to choose otherwise.Also you write like an idiot.
>>5123893Define struggling.You can only use struggling to compare the way similar industries are working.If the Congo has an agrarian mode of production, You have to be a shit for brains to not realize people get a ton of kids to help them in agrarian manned work. If you were American Fruit Company with modern farming technilogy, and you buy all the fucking land from those blacks and told them to fuck off, machines are doing their job and they don't get to eat if they don't work, Then those blacks will start dying out of malnutrition until they realize only having 2 kids is feasible. This is called industrialization yes, this is not called Standard of living.The case for Japan is obvious. Children, children are burdened to pass ridiculous entrance exams to study high school. Ridiculous. They go 6 days to school, from 9 to 10 to enter college. Most fail entrance so they go smell an old man's ass all day until he gets drunk at 1am because leaving home to fuck your wife is rude. Did I mention kids don't have parents because the parents are working in another region to pay for the highschool? Tell me if that isn't struggling, that's not "Standard of Living".People aren't aiming to smoke weed all day, they are aiming to pay the fucking bills and give a chance out of the ratrace to their children. People aren't dying to live in a cell in a commieblock, they go there because they need some sleep knowing land for themselves would cost them 3 hours of driving one way or half a day in public transport.
>>5123877He isn’t proposing that we turn the global south into carbon copies of what we have. He wouldn’t be advocating for us to fix the suite of issues that plague even the most developed nations if that were the case>>5123890>Third world development isn't reducing the populationIt does though. Look at India’s declining birth rate for example. Most of the third world countries you’re thinking of haven’t developed enough to reach that point yet. Increased quality of life, healthcare, education, etc is the most reliable way to reduce the birth rate>Why is Attenborough defending such a flimsy proposal?Because he‘s not a nihilistic 4channer who can’t stand the sight of a brown guy. It’s a proposal that would make people’s lives better as a whole even if that is harder
>>5123899>He isn’t proposing that we turn the global south into carbon copies of what we have. No. He isn't proposing anything really. Because without proposing a different kind of development, he's pretty much proposing the only way of development we know of.Didn't Bolsonaro threaten to cut down the Amazon because Europeans cut down their old growths centuries ago? This isn't some banter, sooner or later, or rather currently and progressively, this is being executed. The coastlines of Central America are starting to be replaced by luxury hotels and that's the brilliant plan. Mountains are quarried into dust to make room for the very eco-friendly digital nomads. Local forests have been razed anew for new urban developments including solar farms. Places like El Salvador keep being shitholes where the middle class dream is to escape the government breathing down your neck and buy you way back after cleaning shit in Italy and Spain (like US wetbacks did).Instead of incentivizing policy that encloses and links greater extension of reclaimed wild, Big idea is to industrialize, bring biomass reserves to the brink of permanent loss, and wonder whether land owners would voluntarily give the land back or explore a new crop/resource to sell out of it.Just remember, the population wasn't large when everything was a shithole jungle. It became large after industrializing.
>>5123897>Define struggling.The near-constant cycle of brutal conflict the Congo has victim of for over 50 years.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congolese_Civil_War> You have to be a shit for brains to not realize people get a ton of kids to help them in agrarian manned work.Yes retard, that's what "if they have the option to" means. Most people in the Congo don't really have an option to feel secure in life or advance economically without having a large family.>The case for Japan is obvious. Children, children are burdened to pass ridiculous entrance exams to study high school. Ridiculous. They go 6 days to school, from 9 to 10 to enter college. Most fail entrance so they go smell an old man's ass all day until he gets drunk at 1am because leaving home to fuck your wife is rude. Did I mention kids don't have parents because the parents are working in another region to pay for the highschool? Tell me if that isn't struggling, that's not "Standard of Living".Except this trend is happening all across the developed world, including in places like Sweden that have robust childcare support systems. The simple fact is that people, when given the option to do other things with their life, don't actually want to have kids. Even with all the aid available not many people are choosing to be responsible for raising another human being, and the number who want to go through it more than once or twice is even smaller.
>>5124002It's pointless to keep arguing if you just go back to the challenged "statistical" argument. Let's hope you and all the globohomo fucks are right, because for sure habitat loss isn't coming down. Once again it only takes one nutjob at the head to undo all the protection efforts. Keep praying to the dollar.
>>5124027Meds.
