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>dude my cat is dying
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>dude my cat is dying
the thread
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>>5144734
Post your cat, dummy.
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>>5144736
Hes dying
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>>5144734
You forgot
>look at my new cat
In between those
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Jylppy the cat has passed away at 32 years and 15 days old, apparently the oldest house cat in the world.

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https://yle.fi/a/74-20237228
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Guys so there’s a bit of a pickle I’m in.
Neighbors’ cat was let in the house by people that live with me and now the cat has come back twice. I don’t know who the cat belongs to but we aren’t mistreating it.
He’s very friendly but I feel like I’m doing a bad thing letting the cat in because he isn’t my cat even if he seems to enjoy the petting he gets. What do I do?
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>>5144746
It should be fine, just let him leave when he wants to go.
Do NOT feed him.
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>>5144748
>do not feed him
Someone in my house already did a while ago.
I’ll tell the occupants to not do that as it might be harmful to cats.
Not sure if there is more to that. My problem is I’m a fa/tg/uy who does miniature and scale model stuff so I fear the cat getting harmed by anything in the unfinished basement if let in.
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>>5144809
Then don't let him in the basement. Cats are not completely retarded when it comes to noxious gases, but don't take a chance.
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>>5144746
>What do I do?
Pet the cat, give it a nice spot to relax in, its stressful outside, if he came to you its because he likes what you've done with the place.
Its owners have already given up any rights to dictate its affection or even its nutrition the second they let him out.
>>5144748 Anon is right you shouldn't feed him by default, on the unfortunately rather good odds he's got nutritional issues, but that's just common sense and being aware of cat's common issues.
I do a lot of /tg/ stuff at home, always had cats. My modeling/painting table is pretty much the only one my cat leaves alone. I'd be more worried about it getting behind an unfinished wall or something than it knocking all your Horus Heresy models off the shelf.
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This is Sumi. Sorry she's blurry, she wouldn't stop moving. She just had her checkup today, and even though I thought she was overweight, apparently she isn't. Her tummy is shaved because she had some matting down there.

She's 17 and a half pounds.
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>>5145196
she cute
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>>5145203
She loves to come in and scream at me.
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>>5144809
If you have a stray or outdoor cat you let roam, that cat has a dozen people on the block feeding his fluffy ass.
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uh hi
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>>5145230
Man, I love Uni but I hate short leg cats. It's the same with pugs and breeds designed to be crippled. It's such a cruel thing.
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All I've to live for are my cats honestly
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>>5145246
Same brother. Same.
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>>5145291
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>>5145291
>>5145292
Dangerously cute
Anyway, gotta head to bed, but only after giving my girl a decent amount of rubs and scratches
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my ancestor :)
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i wish my cat would respect me
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My cat is walking in circles around my coffee table begging for treats.
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I love this silly guy
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>>5144900
>>5144812
>>5144748
Thanks anons.

Cat hasn’t appeared and hopefully is doing fine.
My models are guard stuff. But you were close.
I have a 3d printer set up in there and maybe bits that fell on the floor and I’d fear the cat’s lungs being damaged or it eating a plastic bit that fell off my desk.
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>>5146220
>have a 3d printer
PLA or ABS?
ABS can have bad fumes.
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Any other shoulder kots here?
I have 2 kots, one specifically goes on my left shoulder facing forward, the other likes to go on my right facing back. Never at the same time though.
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>>5146267
I wish I had shoulder cats... I'm stuck with my old girl who has a ultra wide thorax.
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My kot ran away it's so over
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>>5146142
I like his pattern
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my cat has the stinkiest goddamn turds man, I thought toxo was supposed to make that smell good or something
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>>5144746
I don't know about other people, but as a cat person I've befriended neighbor cats and it was fine. I let my cat out and if he made people friends I'd be fine with that too (though he is skiddish half feral and afraid of everyone but me)
you have a kitty friend, don't worry too much about it
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Why do housecats hate water when big cats love swimming? Is it learned behavior from most human owners not exposing them?
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>>5146453
yes. cats are super dumb and have very limited neuroplasticity once they mature. the degree to which their brain flattens and solidifies is actually standard for most animals and everything else is an outlier. locking in learned survival strategies that got them to adulthood statistically gets them far enough to reproduce several times as long as they stay in their environment.

you can and should socialize cats with water because once they grow up they’ll forget a ton and stop being able to learn even half as well unless your cat is an outlier
>if such outliers were purposefully bred cats would eventually get a lot smarter, like how smart they are when they’re young, like a small dog with more dexterity
>if you can, especially if its a male, delay neutering and cope as well as you can to figure out if your cat retains neuroplasticity and breed the fuck out of it if it does
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>>5146706
Remember that a smarter pet also needs much more enrichment. Cats can and do get bored, and when they get bored they can be destructive or otherwise act out, and it causes them distress as well. A stupid cat is much easier to keep entertained.

There are already breeds known for their intelligence, I have two classic Siamese myself. It's not always the best choice
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>>5146724
Traditional* Siamese. Sorry. The ones that look more like a "typical" cat but with Siamese coloration (seal point), not the stretched out slightly alien looking ones.
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Is it mean to take your cats to professional groomers? I read that it is acceptable if you do it from kittenhood otherwise it is too stressful for the cat and/or the groomer may be killed
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>>5147028
If the groomer can't handle a spicy cat, they shouldn't be a groomer.

As for the cat, it depends on how badly they need it vs how they react. I don't think it needs to be a kitten thing because outside of very special needs cats kittens do not need professional grooming.
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>>5146453
>Is it learned behavior from most human owners not exposing them?
No, at least not consistently, it changes with age I think, as a kitten my boy would spend my showers with me, and would fall asleep in the sink with the water stream I'd leave for him to drink flowing on his head or back, but ever since he got past ~6 months he absolutely refuses to get wet.
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my cat just died, took her in for breathing problems on the 18th, first vet who said she had plerual effusion and to put her down... then went to ER, they ran tests and saw blood and heart were good, removed and tested the fluid in her lungs and said it had atypical thingys in it, probably cancer but never got an official diagnosis and didnt do any further testing from that point

all that shit stressed her out too much also; so we opted not to euthanize her because fuck that, she wasn't in pain except for maybe on her last day, today, she did have a few shortlived screaming moments

but we had 10 good days where everyone got to say goodbye and be with her... not 24/7 because she really had to focus on her breathing most of the time, and she wasn't a cuddly type cat, she mirrored my personality which was very much like autism, she'd like to be close but not too close, would hide when company was over, but yeah ugh it's finally over, i grieved like 17 different times throughout this thinking she was gonna go at any moment, there was a good amount of fluctuation in her breathing, most of the time it was good, sometimes she'd mouth breathe which was always spooky

she didn't want to die imo, was only ~13 but yesterday was the first day she refused to eat and today as well so everything was good until it wasn't

silly cat you needed to eat ;_; it's ok tho

right before she died she got up and ran underneath the bed to hide her body from predators i guess, some instinctual cat thing

it already sucked, it's gonna suck even more
this cat would sleep with me every night for the past decade, always rubbing on my legs letting me know she's my buddy, pawing at my door for me to let her in, and out
and she eventually started getting slick and doing fake paws to be let out just in order to get my attention to get up then she'd flop on the ground and stuff or spin and rub on my legs instead of leaving ugh, sorry to her that i didnt pay enough attention to her; RIP
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>>5147128
I'm so sorry anon
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R8
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>>5147128
I'm 35 and my family and I always had cats. After so many years, it's still impossible to "get used" to losing a pet
I'm sure you made her feel loved
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>>5147154
Cute, take good care of that kitty
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>>5145203
Getting real Ron Pearlman vibes from this one.
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>trying to whack off before bed
>my cat won't leave me alone

FUCK OFF I'M TRYING TO JERK IT
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my cat has freckles
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>>5147199
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>>5147199
>she hiss at penis
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>>5147138
thank you
>>5147157
thanks and yeah, this was my first one that i had since she was a kitten and i was also an adult myself throughout her lifetime, and that she was most attached with me instead of the whole family or someone else

RIP my little cat
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Used some old trash furniture as a base to make a small, catio-inspired window bed for my cat. She absolutely loves it.
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Old boy calico
He's getting senile i think, he wont stop licking the cast iron pan so I have to hide it from him
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>>5147337
I had two cats that would lick walls. Sometimes they just like to lick things.
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>>5147338
Yea thats probably it. But I feel like he has changed, he used to be the most vocal cat I've ever seen, now he's almost completely silent
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>>5147339
maybe he's anemic and is 500iq
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>>5147340
He used to go inti the bathroom and meow really loud and because of the echo in there you could hear it everywhere in the entire house. That is intelligent. Although I think he just liked to meow
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>>5147344
if it proved to be effective at getting your attention he prob knew what he was doing
one of those cats training their humans moments
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>>5147339
The only way to tell is to go to a vet. He might have an iron deficiency or something.
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>>5147128
We have been corrupted by romanticism to think love is necessarily ineffable, but in reality, love is "just" the emotion making us comfortable with letting others inside our personal boundaries. Which is not to say love isn't something transcendental, it specifically is because it takes its origin in our material reality before bringing us beyond it. Aristotle was indeed right, love is the only force which satisfies the conditions of use by God in order to first animate Creation.
That cat loved you as clearly as anything can love anything. The end is always really fucking hard, in my opinion harder than with humans because, well, cats don't die with dignity. While I don't reflexively blame folks for going the euthanasia route, in the end you need presence for your opinion to have weight, I think its worth it to point out it takes courage and strength to keep hope for a better outcome, as you did.
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I got these two niglets a week ago from the pound. I already love them.
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>>5144734
https://youtu.be/thF3QkWVRNY?si=G1qNNhOlTqT1HQ6W
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>>5147336
Aww, cutie
>>5147369
Aww, cuties
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>>5144734
Dude, my cat is happily hunting mice
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>>5147411
zazed
give him a pet for murdering the faggot vermin
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>>5147411
Good boy.
Is there something about tuxedo cats being more aggressive hunters than others? I got this guy a few months ago and he wants to play-fight at least 2~3 hours everyday. He'll sit at the window hissing and slowly drawing his claws in and out whenever there's a squirrel around...
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>>5147480
I think it has more to do with the personality of the cat
I had a white classic Persian and a grey short hair, while the Persian was an extremely lethargic and lazy cat, she would go out of her way to hunt insects, the grey cat was energetic and actively hunted and caught anything larger than a mosquito
I have a tux now, he is active, likes to stare out the window and makes radar noises, but is absolutely not interested in catching flies
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My cat gets very upset with me that he isn't the size he used to be and he can't fit on my chest anymore.
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>>5147758
My cat thinks she's way bigger than she is and refuses to stay still when I flop her fat ass onto my lap.
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>>5146706
Dog buttsniffer cope
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>>5147870
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>cat really want to go outside
>open the window to let her out
>she just stands on the other side of the window, looking inside
>doesn't want to come in when I open it
Not sure why she does that.
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>>5147872
Easy, she wants the window open. A passage between home and the outside that she can use whenever.
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>>5146220 (me)
>>5146224
It is resin so it will have bad fumes but I'm setting up ventilation in the basement. There has been a setback on that.
I generally close the basement doors so the cat can't get into the basement.

The cat showed up again at the door and was let in. A little bit of petting happened. He seemed happy.
I tried to give the lad some distilled water but he didn't drink. Just one lick and that was it. I'm not sure if tap water is safe to give to cats.
Luckily his collar has his address, name, and phone number. He is a well mannered gentleman, and maybe my cat allergy was just placebo because only my hands got itchy after petting the cat and it may have been my returning eczema.
>>5147336
she is absolutely content and living her best life. Truly she is happy at your gift. You should be proud of yourself.
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Getting a kitten in 2 months. What should I buy to prepare for it?
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>>5146220
>>5148051
Cats eat all sorts of shit. As long as it doesn't cause an obstruction it's just like if you ate a rock or something. It eventually comes out the other end.
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>>5148057
It depends on the size of the place it's going to live and if you have any other cats. At minimum, a cat box with litter, a scratching post, some soft toys, A dedicated food bowl, either a water bowl or a fountain(keep in mind you have to clean it), And a place for the kitten to hide, like a box or a little fabric house, and some kind of toy that the two of you can play with together, like a cat fishing toy. When you bring it home, if you have it in a carrier, try to put some of your clothes inside. It will help the kitten become accustomed to your smell. Be patient if it's shy. You don't want to do anything to scare it while it gets used to you. Also be very careful playing with the kitten with your hands, because that can train the kitten that hands are an okay thing to attack, even when you aren't playing. If you can, be consistent in how you use your language. Say it's name often. If you need to scold the kitten, realize that it can't understand you, so both pick it up and move it elsewhere while also saying the phrase you will use to tell it to stop doing something. In my experience, snapping my fingers is a really good audio queue, and all of my cats know that if I start snapping, it means to stop doing whatever it is they're doing and leave.
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>>5148069
Great info, thanks.
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Post Kitlers
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>>5148057
That you must take weekly / monthly photos and post them here.
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Is there some trick to getting my cats to drink water? They seem to mostly ignore the bowl I leave out for them. It gets filled with fresh water every morning.
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>>5148093
Nah not really, as long as its not in a nasty bowl, near their litterbox, or anywhere dirty they'll take quick drinks on their own. If its for medical reasons you may need to forcefeed them it though.
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Anyone have the gif of the cat doing a go away hand gesture and I think the caption reads something like "go away" or "begone faggot"?
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>>5148093
Mine drank from the tap at first, I bought him a filtered fountain eventually, then he'd sit next to it and look at me until I'd open the tap a bit, and then he'd start drinking from the fountain. After a while he eventually got the principle behind the whole thing.
Dumb little boy.
You might want to try some flowing water, and also, ice cubes, they like licking them. Changing the water once a day isn't anywhere close enough in my experience, they'll turn their nose up at a bowl as if its swamp water after it sitting still for 10~15 minutes, sometimes less.
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why does my male cat eat and then puke all the time. he's like a teenage girl. his sister doesn't do that. do i need to beat him?
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>>5148184
Could be cancer, unironically. Potentially thyroid problems. Even if it isn't something as serious as cancer or hyperthyroidism, that doesn't seem like something that should be happening. If your vet says
>"sometimes they JUST do that"
find a new vet because those retards aren't doing the god damn job you're paying them to do. Even if it, somehow, it's entirely benign, it would be useful to understand why it's happening and if there's anything that can be done to avoid having to clean up cat vomit every time he eats.
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>>5148093
If you're feeding them wet food they won't need to drink much water if at all, cats evolved to get all their water from their food.

It's still a good idea to leave some clean water out where they'll find it just in case, though.
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>>5148093
Try a fountain. Some cats don't like it when water is still, it makes them think it's stagnant.
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>>5148184
My old girl cat did that her whole life, more when she was younger. Only thing she'd keep down were treats. No vet ever found anything wrong with her, but I eventually stopped bothering.
>>5148234
>cats evolved to get all their water from their food.
That's sand cats, not domesticated cats, the little dummies need to drink, or else they go sick.
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>>5148184
What kind of food is he puking? If it's kibble, try feeding him canned food.
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>>5148184
Is he eating too much? Try to ration his food.
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>>5146698
That is a truly fantastic looking cat, look at those colors.
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My cat keeps pissing in my fucking bedroom when I'm in it.

I have tried checking for infections, bought a feliway, cleaned my front door cause there's a neighbor cat that might've pissed on it before, and moved litter boxes to better accomodate. He does this once a day and at this point I'm ready to take him to the vet and get his nuts cut off.

I'm trying to avoid this because as much as people are on about "muh spay and neuter" I raised this cat from kittenhood and he doesn't mark. He only started doing this when I got a job that changed when I leave/come back and when I got the feliway he stopped, but now he's started up again and I'm getting pissed cause it's forcing me awake.

Is there a solution, or am I going to have to get his balls yeeted even if it desu bugs me cause I am also a man with balls and is kind of fucked.
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>>5148325
Spray and neuter the little shit.
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>>5148323
I'll pass on the compliment
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>>5148378
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>>5145203
Straight outta skyrim
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Should I get second kot or no? Tons of conflicting information on this. Current one showed up as a stray and is about 2. Seems fine gets kind of bored but going outside seems to alleviate that
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>>5148466
Have you seen it interact with other cats?
For example my cat gets aggressively territorial whenever she sees other cats so I don't think I should get another one
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>>5148468
There was another cat around when she showed up but it ran off so maybe social but not sure
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>>5148466
Yes, but be prepared to need to bring it back if the cats don't get along. Also make sure to swap smells before you introduce them.
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a while back we took in a stray cat who ended up being pregnant an having other issues and we ended up with like 10 other cats and completely overwhelmed. only manage to find homes for 4 of them on our own

i spent a whole summer taming her and playing with her to gain her trust and i always felt uniquely bonded to her even though later she became somewhat more distant and stressed out because of all the other cats now in the house

we ended up getting in touch with an organization working in our area to help find homes for cats, and today we ended up surrendering her. i guess we'll end up keeping a few of her kittens

i chose to surrender her because she had health problems and i hope to God they will get her all sorted out and find a good home for her, since we couldnt afford to provide for her. and im also worried she might have gotten pregnant again when she escaped a while back and we cant handle that

but holy shit, it hurts man. dont get me wrong i love the kittens we'll be keeping, but ultimately shes the one i wanted to keep. i spent all that time gaining her trust and bonding with her.

it almost feels like ive betrayed her on some level. i have a nagging sense of guilt on top the grief of losing her. especially since it was kind of last minute and i expected they would be taking some of the kittens today, not her. i have to keep reminding myself that she was a stray and i may well have saved her from a truly miserable life. i pray to God she will go on to have a good life.
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>>5148486
I've had both a mother and her daughter a while back and once she became an adult they didn't get along. Probably a thing where the offspring is supposed to leave when adult
If you were planning on keeping her kids it's probably for the better
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>>5148492
yea basically she hit a point where she had to fight them off to get them to stop nursing off of her, and because we weren't able to get rid of all them they were bugging her constantly for wa while, and she developed this natural hostility towards them. she seemed pretty stressed out with this, combined with the fact that she was CONSTANTLY wanting outside but we couldn't let her out because she wasn't fixed yet. I ended up getting the boys fixed because it was cheaper but that may have been a mistake since she escaped a few times and may have gotten herself knocked up.

it sucks though. in the end of the day, despite becoming somewhat distant, she was still i think the most affectionate towards me. even with the kittens ive raised since their birth, they seem to almost..take me for granted i guess, but i never got that sense from her, she always seemed to really appreciate me despite everything

i got really attached to a few the kittens as well, but now that shes gone i feel like i would trade them all to get her back... but like i said, she had some health issues from being a stray, plus the possibility she was pregnant again... i had to make the cold rational choice

i really wish i could hold her in my arms again though.

theres 3 more kittens the organization is going to pick up hopefully before the end of the month, that will leave us with 3 left who we may end up keeping. i guess time will tell how things will play out once the place is no longer crowded and things calm down a bit and everyone can be more relaxed.
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>>5148486
>>5148494
The only thing you can do is take solace that you put a LOT of ground work into her to get her to the point she is at today. Had you not stepped in, she never would have had a chance. Thanks to you, she does. What happens now is up to her, but you did the best thing you possibly could have done for her. It sucks, it hurts, but just keep reminding yourself that had you not taken care of her, she would have been SIGNIFICANTLY worse.
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Why is my cat afraid of both the sight and sound of tinfoil? He's an old fat orange retard who has had several owners so I dunno
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>>5148512
picrel
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>>5148512
Can probably hear ultrasonic squeaking at 120 dB.
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>>5148513
That's good fluff right there
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>>5148504
for some reason it didn't occur to me until now that the kittens would have been born strays as well and if we didnt take her in when we did things would have been bad for them to. i guess that makes me feel a lot better

the entire reason theres an organization focusing on our community is that theres sooo many strays here and by the sounds of it many of them have pretty rough time. there was even someone going around poisoning them a while back
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>>5144728
Can any kot expert tell me what are the chances a stray cat of approximately 1.5 years old (pic related) still with his balls intact, suddenly starts spraying the house? He's been here 4 days already and no spraying or peeing outside the box. What are the chances? I'm planning on neutering him btw
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>>5148592
You did the right thing.
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I love my cats!
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>>5148655
He's probably going to have some accident at some point, even if its not willingly spraying. Sometimes they just have tiny accidents while sleeping.
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My cat is desperate to flee from the front door every time I go somewhere or return, he has already fled one time for a couple of days and returned
Does walking the cat on a leash like a dog suppress these urges?
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I wonder why the cat is filling the litter box so fast.
Used to have multiple cats with a smaller box than the one I currently have and usually twice a day was enough to keep it clean.
For some reason the cat is filling it in less than afternoon.
Not more piss than usual and the shit is solid enough, so diarrhea or infections is rather unlikely. Food has not changed and no particular mood change outside of the litter filling fast and some maniac need to get under the cover while I'm sleeping.
Never done it before, not even it had a tooth infection and it would be expected to search for warmth.
Checking with the vet this week regardless, but I'm wondering if someone has had similar experiences.
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Is my cat fucking with me?

I have a one year old cat, its my first cat, I love him and all that and he's doing great.
Usually he sleeps in my bed throughout the night, but for the past three weeks he's been acting like a fucking schizo when its time for bed.
He'll sit at the edge of the bed, staring out into the living room, then he'll pan his head like someone is entering the bedroom, until he finally just stares into one of the corners. He'll occasionally get very vocal at this point. There is no one there. I don't believe in ghosts. I've never experienced anything supernatural but this little fucker has been doing this shit for weeks now. I don't think he wants attention, because if I pet him at this point he doesn't really care. He'll also refuse to look at me while maintaining "eye contact" with whatever bullshit he thinks he sees. Obviously I'm not gonna get rid of him for something like this, but I'm curious WHY he does it and WHY it started recently.
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>>5148823
>Is my cat fucking with me?
Yes. I don't need to read the rest.
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>>5148823
Seems to me the most likely explanation is a mouse or something similar in the walls.
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>>5148325
gotta neuter him else lil man thinks its his right to do so lmao
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>>5148780
My Aki had regular diarrhea that she would do outside of the litter box. The first vet I took her to said she had Giardia, which she did not. It took a year and a half before I got the correct diagnosis of IBD. By then it had established itself too strongly, and even after half a year of medications, chemo, and immune suppressants I had to put her to sleep last month.

Get her checked out now.
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>>5148823
Might be chasing eye squiggles in his eye. Or might be seeing reflections or dust. My cat would stare at a shiny door knob because she saw her reflection in it and locked onto the movement.
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my brother just got back at 1:30 in the morning talking about he is adopting a cat tomorrow
i was very happy at first cuz i really like cats
i grow catnip even though i do not own a cat
but then i had a lot of questions:
>is it fixed/spaded
>is it litterbox trained/house broken
>shots up to date
>is he "purebred" (inbred lmao)
>how does he feel about dogs
what other questions should i have him ask?i am currently making a note for him to follow when he gets the cat
if all else fails, i have a rich friend who has a mansion full of cats that i can give him to the cats over there always seem happy and they have way more things to climb since every room is the size of my living room at least
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>>5148970
also he gave the cat a gay name, but i understand its his cat and i kept that thought to myself
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how do you guys get those pics of your cats outside? wouldnt the cat wander off?
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>>5149000
Cats don't just flee when you let them out
My girl just chills around the house and then asks for someone to open a door so she can come back in an hour later
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>>5149001
so she is an outdoor cat? so if i wanted to go on a walk with my cat around a forest, it wouldnt run off like a dog would?
also how does a cat become an outdoor cat
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>>5149008
Our girl's previous owner gave her up because his GF was allergic to cats
She was originally an indoor cat. The first few times we let her out, we accompanied her
We've had her for nearly a decade and she always comes back home
If anyone is wondering why we let her out, it's because she enjoys it a lot. I pick her up when she comes back inside and she's purring like crazy
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rip nine lives the feral cat ..
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>>5149041
what is it with countries in oceania and getting outsmarted by animals
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>>5149041
It's a good thing he's dead.
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I think my cat might be a whore. What do?
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>>5148684
Based
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is it true that if you tickle a cat's paw his claws come out
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>>5149000
The garden is their territory so they don't wander off.
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>>5149008
Cats don't go on walks and they don't like being taken out of their familiar environment. An outdoors cat typically has a territory outside the house that it patrols.
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>>5144929
>>5145292
>>5147871
>>5148378
>>5149406
aura-farming regal cat
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regal-farming aura cat
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Ok I'll stop now
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>>5149873
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>>5149345
Touching a cat's paws in general is a good way to get the claws out, even if its just by pissing the cat out. Cats used to it will often stretch out their paws reflexively, and the few ones that love it will start kneading, so it usually ends up having the same effect. Its best to attempt when they are sleeping next to you, they are usually more cuddly as they fall asleep/wake up.
>>5149008
>so if i wanted to go on a walk with my cat around a forest, it wouldnt run off like a dog would
You can try, but most cats reacts terribly to the leash, worse even with the harness, they just freeze on their side and let you pull them the whole way. Most cats won't want to walk along with you. My old gal that I lost last year, she would, but only around the block, and only if I was a few meters behind her, but any loud noise would make her run and that was a hassle. She was also a very vocal and responsive cat, she'd constantly call out, and if I said "no" she'd let out a little "couic" noise and fall back to my feet.
So it's not impossible, but I think it depends on the cat's personality and how it sees you. Even if a cat loves you, its main reflex when feeling threatened is to get the fuck out of there, it rarely perceives you as a source of protection. More even in an outside setting it doesn't know.
>>5149000
Cats either want to range far or stays in a very limited area, which they know and feel safe in. House cats that were kept in their early life but are allowed out under supervision at first tend to remain close by. If your land has a well delimited fence or even just bushes, they'll usually stay in, even more so if you discourage them when they first show interest in getting out.
I've never had a cat just run out and never come back. Obviously, it happens, but I've raised 7 cats now, and always allowed them some form of outside access. I don't think any ever killed anything either, one had a pretty epic boxing fight with a squirrel once, but that's it
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>>5149308
>I think my cat might be a whore.
All cats are whores. Its fine for them because they have evolved for it.
> Female can get impregnated by more than one male at a time.
> Female adapts their heat cycle in function of the number of males present in order to grant as many a reproductive opportunity and lower male aggression in shared territories.
> [spoiler] Consent is irrelevant [/spoiler]
Tradlarpers and feminists will equally disagree, but these are the real ingredients to solving female social malefaction.
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I think my cat wants to run around outside and explore but I can't trust him to not get hit by a car or destroy the neighbors' shit
When we moved to a whole new state my old cat snuck out and somehow wandered around uncharted territory for four days before finding his way back to the new home we've only lived in for a couple days. But he's a big [spoiler]pussy[/spoiler] so I dunno how far he actually went
New kitty is an exciteable psychopath that climbs and chews on everything so I'm worried he'll get distracted and wander off and wont come back. Can't really give him an enclosed area to explore on his own either
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>>5149948
dont
i just lost my best buddy yesterday
ive never felt so hopeless
i cant even sleep
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>>5149904
>Touching a cat's paws in general is a good way to get the claws out, even if its just by pissing the cat out. Cats used to it will often stretch out their paws reflexively, and the few ones that love it will start kneading, so it usually ends up having the same effect. Its best to attempt when they are sleeping next to you, they are usually more cuddly as they fall asleep/wake up.
I really think this is another reason why I absolutely adore Maine Coons. I've owned three at this point and all of them actively try to pull back their claws if I hold their paws. They know claws could hurt me and they never want to hurt me.
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My buddy died yesterday. Had to put him down, he could barely function due to heart failure. Possibly the worst thing that I've ever had to do. He was my best friend.

Please take good care of your cats and hug them Anons. Never neglect them.
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>>5150020
I had to put my Aki down last month. Even though I know it was the right thing to do, and even though I know I ended her suffering, part of me will always hate myself for being the one that ended her life. She was my best friend too.

I'm sorry for your loss.
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>>5149948
>I think my cat wants to run around outside and explore but I can't trust him to not get hit by a car or destroy the neighbors' shit
If you have any doubt, just don't let them out, or never let them out without you being present and guiding them.
>>5149948
>New kitty is an exciteable psychopath that climbs and chews on everything so I'm worried he'll get distracted and wander off and wont come back.
*That* doesn't really mean anything. My cat spends his days hissing and looking mean at the squirrels outside the window, he's absolutely insane when we play, to the point that I have to be careful with the fishing pole, or else he'll fully run into the walls or jump without caring if there's a good landing spot or not, but when I let him out on the balcony, he just loafs and let the squirrels come up to his face and doesn't do anything.
Your boy could be a shredder, or he could become completely afraid and never leave your door's sight. Mines have always been closer to the latter, and I don't think I would have been comfortable with letting them roam, I'm already amazed at how many of the outside cats around my house have survived 5+ years.
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>>5149987
That's something I keep hearing.
I wish my little tux was like that.
This little villain got insane hooks, and he's not afraid to use them.
> You got to teach them that it hurts
I did. He knows.
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>>5150034
Mine just intrinsically knew not to try to hurt me, because they don't want to.
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>>5150022
I'm sorry you lost your fren as well. Yeah I was hoping and Praying he would take my buddy while we napped together for the past week, but unfortunately it never happened. It eats me up that I essentially ordered his killing, even if it was the right thing for him. The worst part is him looking at me the entire time until he died.
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>>5150462
I held Aki in my lap, the place she always wanted to be, and had to hold her down while they injected the medicine to knock her out first. What I didn't know was that her eyes weren't going to fully close. I had to hold her still as she struggled slightly because getting injected with that much stuff probably doesn't feel good. I felt her breath on my left hand, and felt the final breath...

My other cat Yuki who died way too early (I am never using that fucking breeder ever again)... I only saw her final moments because of the weirdest coincidence. Aki had a suction cup attached ledge on a window she would look out from, and it was always falling down. I was laying down on a weekend, trying to get some more sleep, and I heard a bang. For a second I thought about staying in bed and ignoring it, but I decided to check it anyway. In front of me, Yuki was wheezing and heaving trying to breathe. I thought maybe it was a hairball and lifted her up trying to get her out of her bed, to which she exhaled and went completely limp. I threw on clothes, called the vet to tell them I was bringing her in, and drove the 3~ minutes it took for me to get to the vet knowing full well she was never going to be resuscitated. It was the weekend, so an autopsy was impossible, but every vet I've talked to about it said that it likely was that her heart failed, and her breathing was due to that. I was never going to save her.

That's two cats I've had die in my hands. A third died thankfully of old age as I pet her on the floor, but... to have it happen two years apart is incredibly crushing.

I'm taking Sumi, the cat I got to keep Aki from losing her mind due to me going back to work, who is two and a half, in to get an echo cardiogram because I want to make sure her heart is okay. I really hate the fact that I got her, promised her she'd have a big sister to take care of her, and now she's alone. I have caught her laying in my room next to the bed Aki spent her final days in
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My fucking cat contracted a stomach bug of some sort. I took her to the vet Saturday and they x-rayed her. No foreign bodies in her system, but since the anti nausea meds wore off she's back to refusing food. She's refused her plaid diet that the vet prescribed since yesterday morning. I gave her chunk tuna last night just to put something in her stomach but she refused that this morning which is really alarming because tuna is her absolute favorite
I don't have the money to keep taking her to the vet but I know how hard not eating can be on a cat
Not to mention the diarrhea
I'm just really worried about her at this point
She's 4yo
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How do I get my cat to stop pissing on the floor? This has only started in the past couple of months after having the cat for a decade. I thought it may have been because I was away for a week but it keeps happening. The litter boxes are barely used, and she goes outside so I really don't know why she's doing it
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>>5147198
he was like 8 months or so there. this is him now
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>>5150772
>HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES LIL DONNIE
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>>5150776
Ron Perlman has ruined maine coons
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>>5147198
>>5150772
>>5150787
You know it's funny, I had several people tell me Aki looked like Ron Pearlman.

I miss her so fucking much.
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Look at this big guy!
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>>5150849
so sorry anon, i can only imagine how it feels to lose a buddy as I've never lost one. And it's terrible even imagining it
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>>5150857
genuinely my favorite fur pattern in a tuxedo cat
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This is Buzz. He thinks you're gay.
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>>5150907
She was my best friend.
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>>5150857
>big guy!
He's tiny.
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>cat falls asleep on chest
>snores louder than I do
I feel like I need to get him a kitty CPAP machine or something
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>>5151380
schrodinger's law, cats are in a super position of little boys and big guys
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Have a snowshoe!
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Went to a vet due to cat's liquid shits among other things. Vet says commercial cat food is all shit, and a homemade diet is most healthy, gives a few suggestions with some specifics and things to be wary of but still nothing resembling an actual diet prescription.
Well it obviously sounded extremely fucking dubious, and after a bunch of googling I've found a lot of ledditors parroting something something veterinary nutritionist or don't bother.
Now, I have reasons both not to completely dismiss the vet's advice (he otherwise seemed relatively competent), and not to immediately trust shit I read online no many how many people say it (because of course). As I result I still don't know what to do so I have come to consult my favorite cave painting forum.

So, what do you think? Bad idea, try another vet? Or drill this one for more detailed advice?
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>>5151998
What food are you feeding your cat?
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>>5152000
Both wet and dry, tried different brands/types, but the liquid shits remained. Well, on and off but lately a lot more often.
He also has severe dental issues and will need a few teeth removed. My neglect is in part to blame, but it's too late. I do wonder if it's related though.
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>>5152002
Ditch the dry food. It's more expansive but your little nigga is worth it.
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>>5152006
I guess that's another option to consider. Not so sure it'd help though.
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My cat is having the hiccups for a whole day, some persistent coughing and he ate like 15% of what he normally used to. At least he is drinking water. I THINK he half-swallowed some piece of plastic, he is not much of a hairball cat. I think he just needs to puke it out, but he is not letting it go all the way. Is there anything I can do? If he is not better by tomorrow morning, I'll take him to the vet.
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My cat has had a really red and watery inner eyelid on his right side for about 2 days now. No visible swelling, no hair loss around the eye, no bleeding or puss, just tears. No cloudiness in the pupil or any indication of blindness. He can mostly open his eye, about 85% of the way but not fully, and its visibly worse when he's just woken up. I think he either scratched it playing with the other cats, got hair stuck in it, or he scratched himself while grooming or itching. Does anyone have any experience with this? How long does eye irritation usually take to heal? I can't really take him to the vet unless it gets worse because it's expensive and the vet in my area is already crowded + underfunded.
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This is my cat Swish and I love the shit out of her. She follows me around and even when I don’t see her, I can just call her name and she appears out of cat space. She’s ridiculous fast and athletic. Likes to sleep on me all the time. Easily learns and accommodates boundaries without slyly trying to break the rules all the time. Doesn’t really care for anyone in the house but me. Fucking ideal cat. Thank you for reading my blog
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>>5152284
She's very pink!
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>>5152304
Highly pink! She’s like a little fairy in her demeanor so it fits well.
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>>5152284
>>5152317
Please treasure her and spend as much time with her as you can. Enjoy the fuck out of her. I had a "once in a lifetime cat" and you never know how long you're going to have or when it can and will abruptly end. I wish I had spent more time with my "once in a lifetime cat", because when I had to say goodbye my mind was/is full of "I wish I had done X more".
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>>5152328
This is the kind of thing I’ll remember. I’ll try extra hard. Bonus once in a lifetime story
>I really really dislike the sound of loud meows and that crying sound dogs make
>I don’t know why. I love animals and I know it’s impolite of me but every time it happens it just grinds every gear in my head and I have to manually remember to just do what they need
>I have pretty sensitive hearing. Didn’t fuck myself up with headphones/earbuds when I was young
>Swish has somehow discovered a specific meow which does not bother me in any way
>I never even got shitty with her about it before but somehow she knew to change it?
>when she needs my attention it’s this very soft mew in a pitch that doesn’t grind the gears at all
>even more unusual, it is seemingly a frequency that nobody in the house can hear but me. Just completely personal
I don’t even know how or why she would know to do any of that. Once in a lifetime indeed. I’d go to love on her right now but she’s sleepin’ in a little basket.
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Looking to get 2 kittens. This is my first time getting pets.
Give me everything I need to know, before getting cats
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>>5152334
2 kittens is good because they can keep each other company when you're gone.
Make sure you invest in or make a GOOD scratching post, most of the ones you get in the store are too short and too wobbly for a cat too feel comfortable putting all their weight on it. You need something at least as tall as the cat at their full size, and the wider the base the better (worth putting a weight plate on the base).
Also cat trees are really nice, it gives a big sturdy scratching post AND a way to get up high to observe their surroundings.
Don't get them neutered right away, i feel like too many vets try to just get it out of the way, and you want to wait until they've reached almost full size, but before they start spraying to cut the nuts off.
Until they start tapering off in size free-feed them (always make sure there is food in the bowl). Get a can of wet kitten food, add some water, and stir the whole thing up until it has the consistency of a thick stew/thin paste.
Also get a cat fountain (or make one), I was genuinely surprised at how much more water my cat drank after I got it.
Even though they're kittens and will be raised together you still want to go with one litter box per kitten, and an extra one isn't a bad idea.
When you first get the kittens, confine them to a single room where their litter, water, and food is contained. Let them slowly get used to those surrounding, and then slowly expand the space they're allowed to roam in. Depending on how much space you have maybe use a baby gate.
REMOVE EVERY SINGLE CORD/CABLE YOU CAN FROM THEIR AREAS! Headphone cables and USB's are the exact perfect size for them to chew on when they're teething.
I always get a smallish plush dog toy and I try to transfer aggressive rough housing onto the toy.
Prepare for 6 months of fucking chaos because kittens.
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>>5152284
Feel free to post more of her
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>>5152330
Cats are very smart. Some of the best cats know exactly what behaviors you like and don't like.

My Aki would just loudly purr next to me for hours. I'd be on my computer, and she'd be on her cat tree next to my chair, just purring. I wasn't even doing anything, she was just happy to be near me. She'd lick my hand off if I let her. That and she'd follow me everywhere, never wanting to be away from me. She'd always mrr at me in a way that sounded like she was asking me a question. Just stop walking, look up at me, and go "What are we doing now?" That and she was absolutely adorable. She had no idea how easy it was for her to get whatever she wanted just by showing me that little face.
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>>5152180 here
update: he got better this morning, the hiccups stopped
go figure
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>>5152353
beautiful cat anon
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>>5150600
Sometimes that's a sign of urinary problems and she is trying to show you. Make sure she is drinking enough water and the piss is not too yellow or dark, also check if she is having trouble while pissing, like doing small amounts here and there, or if there is any display of pain. This happened to a cat of mine, she had an infection.

Sometimes it's nothing though. Make sure the litterbox is clean, if another cat pissed there, she might avoid it. Wash the whole thing and the area around it, replace the litter completely. You could try some liquid drops sold in petshops that promise to attract the cat to the correct toilet area, but it doesn't work for all cats and works best when they are young and learning a new place, doesn't seem to be the case.
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>>5152353
>She'd always mrr at me in a way that sounded like she was asking me a question
I think I know exactly what you’re talking about. The sound starts at a regular pitch and then kind of goes up at the end, indicating the question?
Which is crazy because that’s our own verbal pattern. When you ask a question and it’s clear that you actually want an answer instead of sarcasm, you have that inflection at the end of the sentence too. I don’t know. I wish they’d just tell me exactly how smart they really are lol
Also that is definitely among the most beautiful cats I have ever seen. Goddamn, anon.
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>>5152334
Anger and violence is a complete waste of time when disciplining cats. It's better to annoy them, like squirting water at them from cheap low power water pistols, or blowing air at them with your mouth.
Be loud only when they're being idiotic and risking their lives, like nibbling at power cables.
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We have to take my mom’s cat in to the vet today, he’s been pissing on everything and we don’t know why.
We did get a second cat last year but they get along mostly, and he started peeing on towels left on the floor and even the couch and her bed now.
Strangely enough he never pees on my stuff though in the basement, I figure it’s cause the litter box is down here and I’m the one who feeds him.
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>>5152334
Always remember that baby mammals are learning about their environment and testing things. If you’re trying to discourage a behavior, and then you notice the baby animal just goes back to do almost the exact same thing again, they’re not fucking with you or being a little asshole- they’re testing their environment. You’ll notice that even when they go back to it, they’ll do it slightly differently
>okay so that wasn’t okay
>but is thiiiiss okay?
>oh still no?
>well what about this then?
It can get frustrating and repetitive sometimes but raising a pet is paying upfront with patience. They’ll be patient with you later at some point so just keep a good relationship
>>5152397
This too. Yelling at cats is worse than a waste of time- it damages your relationship with the animal.
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>>5152336
Helllll yeahhhhh
She gets along with my lab really well. They snuggle and prowl around the house together. They’ve also discovered that dual-begging is more effective in acquiring meat scraps because it’s extra cute
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>>5152384
lel, one of my cats (on the left) also does the "question" trill only the first time when i initiate the "conversation". Always found it funny
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>>5152180
>>5152359
What does a cat hiccup sound like?
>me-ow
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>>5152360
I had to put her to sleep last month.
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>>5152401
Might have some Main Coon in it. Those ear tufts on the end are signs.
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So many passed away cats ITT, I'm sorry anons
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>>5152479
he's a Maine Coon
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>what’s up with that?
>y’all cowards don’t even monch grass
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>>5152596
Aren't they just lovely cats?
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>>5152334
Kitten claws are somehow so fucking sharp you don't know they've just cut you 9 times until a few minutes has passed, be ready.
Cat fountains are good, but invest in one that's easy to wash and that has a mineral filter, and make sure to change it often.
Try to engage them in play around 1h each day. If they have good hunting instincts, cat "fishing" poles are probably the best.
Its okay if their weight balloons a bit in the first 6-9 months, as long as you keep them playing and occupied a lot, and have their weight stabilized at a good point before they get fixed.
I'll be the dissenting voice and say that you *can*, sometimes, establish a relationship with your cat where they see you as an authority in a way that is similar to a dog, and that in those cases raising your voice (or, more accurately, going deep and growly) may discourage unwanted behavior. I've had 2 cats that way, and a few more that either ran away or just didn't care at all (the males, lol).
I don't think its worth trying for it, however, I'm just saying because I feel people tend to say stuff like
>>5152397
>Anger and violence is a complete waste of time when disciplining cats.
reflexively, and that cats have more personality traits than we generally attribute them.
Anyways, just try putting yourself into their paws helps a lot. Whenever you think they are the dumbest little shits ever, or annoyingly loud, just remember that they have a billion good reason to find you the dumbest little shit and annoyingly loud as well.
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>>5152334
>>5152397
>>5152626
You know one of the things that got me through whenever my cats did something naughty/destructive? My cats came with a new kitten kit, but instead of calling it a new kitten kit, it was called a "Baby Cat" kit. Somehow the phrasing stuck with me. Whenever I'd get mad or upset, I'd say to myself "Dude, these are babies. They don't know any better. They're so baby they don't even KNOW they're baby."

It's kinda hard to be mad at a baby unless you're some kind of psychopath.
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>>5148057
>mfw ip banned from uploading images
Kittens were born last week. My friend is giving me first pick of the litter, so I'll be excited to see how they develop. Outside of getting a girl cat, I'm not picky so I don't really know how I'll end up choosing.
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>>5152638
The best thing you can do is spend a lot of time with them. Watch their behavior. Do they go off and play by themselves? Do they want to play with you? Are there any obvious pairings that seem like they'd be good together? Are any too quick to bite or claw? Are any sensitive to being touched? You really want to get in there and mess with them. Poke paws. Lightly pull on tails. Touch ears and noses. The more you can learn, the easier it will be to decide. That and don't get so overwhelmed by cute that you fail to really observe them.
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>>5152665
Why the fuck is this retard ordering off the cat menu?
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>>5148136
Nice post anon.
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>>5152622
by far the friendliest and funniest cat I've ever seen. he's like my court jester
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>>5152710
That's is his post. He spends at least a few hours each day making sure no damn rodent invades our home.
I love the little gremlin like you couldn't believe. Insane how completely different from my old one he is, and yet, I wouldn't change a thing to him.
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>>5152739
It's why I will never get another breed. They are such big soft fluffy goobers. I adore them.
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>>5152917
I meant your post was a good post haha, but his post is good too!!
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>>5152397
>Be loud only when they're being idiotic and risking their lives
Bullshit, if he gets to run around screaming bloody murder like a maniac then I can holler at him from the other room about eating plastic.
I don't even know where it comes from, he just manifests little bits of plastic to crinkle incessantly.
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>poke
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Question for those of you who use catnip
>gardening is my big hobby
>this year, I decided to grow lots of catnip because the plants were cheap at the nursery
>got 6 plants
>cats clearly prefer the ‘nip from some plants over others
>look this shit up because unfamiliar with cat narcotics
>catnip, even plant to plant, has different alkaloids that cause the effects cats do and don’t like and so on
>since it varies plant to plant, I’ve decided to start breeding the best variety of catnip I can make
What do you like about using catnip with your cat? What do you think your cat likes about it most specifically?
I’m trying to dial in what the ideal catnip would be before I just start a breeding program.
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Found a cool cat on my stroll today.
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>>5147154
cute/10
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>>5153047
One of my cats was BIG into the smell of catnip and silvervine. One wiff and she'd lose her fucking mind. The other doesn't like the smell.
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Give it to me straight bros. Is extracting ALL of his teeth the only way to treat light stomatitis? He completely stopped complaining about the pain after 2 days of anti inflammatory pills and antibiotics, but the vet still says that I should get them all extracted. Isn't there any way to kill the bacteria? any natural stuff or something? Look at him.. I don't want him to lose his fangs and all of his healthy teeth..
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>>5153438
I don't think we are capable of making that judgement call for you anon. For one thing, we can't even see his teeth right now. For all we know they have cavities. If you want a second opinion, get a second opinion. Teeth health is a serious thing and if they are rotting in his mouth then yeah, that can fuck up the gut biome badly.
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>>5153490
I'll try taking a pic of it tomorrow. just tried and he wouldn't let me do it. I wasn't really asking for his specific case, but rather in general. Is teeth removal the only way to deal with stomatitis?
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>>5153438
We can't possibly make the call on if its severe enough to warrant extraction already, you need to smell the cat's breath as well as examine how far the inflammation goes.
There are half a dozen alternative treatment to removal, and especially before full removal. All will be way more complex and expensive, and probably have much lower success rate, but there's not much data on that. Full removal solves 90% of cases, so obviously that's the one vets recommend, but its also the fucking worse.
If you are able to put money toward trying an alternative, Interferon Omega + partial removal should be the first step, since that approaches the same % as full-removal.
>Isn't there any way to kill the bacteria?
Its not a specific bacteria, or at least, it hasn't been found, and by now we'd have found it. Its more akin to a systemic allergic reaction. Anything that helps with gum health and plaque removal is a good thing to try, since it could very well just be a strong reaction to buildup.
>any natural stuff or something?
There are options, like propolis and hydrocortizone, but you should check with a vet before using them. Soft methods to remove plaque, like the seaweeds chewers, should be safe and not hurt your cat, but monitor it when you use them. That's very much just management, really, the real treatments aren't the natural ones, they are stem cell and designer protein-tier stuff. If you are really lucky and can get by the cheapest interferon, you might have to shell out 50-200$ a month. MSCT is anywhere from 4k to 15k.
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>>5153529
I don't know. I am not a vet. Get a second opinion.
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I own 2 male Maine Coons. One is 9 months around just under 6.8kgs. The other is 18 months and only 5.4kg. Last time he was weighed before today was at the vet during a check-up around a month ago, the weight above was on my home scales so not sure how accurate it is. During the last check-up my vet was really satisfied with his body condition and said he was in excellent health. I am just worried about his weight as it is definitely on the leaner side for his age/breed. I am taking him to the vet tomorrow to be weighed and checked by a vet, hopefully he is okay. He is not exhibiting any behavioural issues and seems to be eating fine, although it is impossible to tell how much he is eating verse his brother because they share food bowls. Should I be worried? (because I am I love my cats and just want the best for them bros)

tldr; my Maine coon is below the average weight but otherwise seems healthy, has anybody owned them before and had similar wildly varying weights and sizes between cats? (pic unrelated)
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>>5153581
Should've mentioned his weight on the vet's scales a month ago was 5.7kgs (300g heavier than my own scales tonight). As I said in my previous post, I've no idea of the accuracy of my home scales as its a cheap one from Target that is like 10 years old but I am still freaking out at the thought that he was had even a small amount kf weight loss, given his age.
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>>5153581
That sounds nearly exactly like what was happening with my cats. Aki was fine, though thin, till she wasn't. If either of your cats ever starts having diarrhea, get on that shit IMMEDIATELY. If it's IBD, the faster you treat it, the more likely it can be fixed. If they say it's something like Giardia, don't believe them and get a second opinion.

I'm not trying to scare you, and hopefully everything will be fine. Sometimes cats are smaller. He might have been the runt of the litter. Just be very careful with IBD. If I had tried to fix Aki's two years ago, she might still be alive today.
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I don't like cats I don't like cats.
My girlfriend wanted one and exasperated me until we got one and I regret it so fucking much.
He's barely affectionate even though we bought it as a kitten, he has long fur that goes everywhere, he stinks and his piss and shit smell atrocious and I hate it so much.
Bought pellets that turn into dust when they get wet and still it's just so dirty, so stinky and I hate it.
I wish I had a dog, just take him to the forest, he does his business or fuck it even if I go around town and pick up his droppings they remain outside, meanwhile this fucking animal is stinking up the house.

I need advice, I'm not evil enough to kill/abandon an innocent animal but I'm at my wits end: he's always shedding and his litterbox stinks so fucking bad.
Especially the litterbox, right now it's warm so we leave it outside on the balcony but come winter we'll have to put it inside and I am already dreading it, even putting it into the bathroom makes me nervous.
We're using a powder based thing that cuts the smell SOMEWHAT alongside baking soda but it's still bad, is there anything I should invest to make this work?
I don't want to give it away because I understand it will break my girlfriend's heart and likely make the cat have some issues itself (raised it for almost two years now, it is spayed so at least it doesn't spray), I just need to know how to deal with the hygiene part.

Also I apologize for getting into a cat thread with "I don't like cats", I'm genuinely hoping that fixing the issue of the smell/clean up will change that.
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>>5153585
You can get filters/air freshiners for the litterbox. Likewise there are sprays to neutralize the smell. It sounds like you should try different litter. Maybe some clay based litter. Also clean it more often, or invest in a self cleaning box. Also stop moving it around all the time. Your cat wants to get used to where it is, and will likely still go in that spot if you move it.

If he's shedding, brush him. Cats have summer and winter coats, and brushing regularly helps. You can also try a different food that might smell less. But to be honest, this sounds like something you need to talk to your girlfriend about. If she is adamant about owning it, then she likely should be the one dealing with the cleanup. If she isn't, that isn't exactly fair to expect someone who doesn't like cats to do it. This might be just the loudest issue you as a couple have. You might not be comparable if a single cat is enough to drive you to thoughts of harming an animal. It's not his fault.

Talk to your girlfriend. Talk to the vet to see if they have suggestions. Under no circumstances harm the animal.
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>>5153587
First of all
>Under no circumstances harm the animal.
I said I wouldn't, I am not a third worlder that randomly kills pets.
>air freshiners
Like actual air fresheners you put inside the litterbox?
Right now we have a mulching litter, if it gets wet it turns to dust, with the litterbox having two layers the solid parts stays up and the dusty parts go down, it is expensive but beats another we had that, while flushable, would get stuck on the cats paw tracking everywhere... however as I said, it builds up and still stinks.
>You can also try a different food that might smell less
Any recommendations?
Tried a wide variety but it doesn't help much, I'd be fine buying a specific brand to be honest.
>If he's shedding, brush him
The issue is that he doesn't like to be brushed and I don't know how hard to brush.
We have a deshedding brush which, if I put some weight to it, takes a lot of fur away but the cat is uncomfortable wherever I use a light touch or a heavy touch, so I'm never sure if I'm hurting it or not, which makes me doubtful I should do it as much as I do.
>Talk to the vet
People over here make you pay hundreds for like a 15 minutes consultation, that's money we need to save if the cat actually gets sick, sadly.
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>>5153588
Again, it really sounds like you don't want to take care of the cat. That's fine, you said you aren't a cat person, but this is going to require you to have some serious conversations. Why are you the one brushing your cat? Why isn't your girlfriend, the one who WANTED the cat, handling it? Does she ACTUALLY want a cat, or does she want YOU to have a cat that she sometimes gets to pet. Are you taking him to regular vet appointments? Every 6 months to a year? If not, that's really unhealthy. If so, ask then.
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>>5153590
Because my girlfriend ultimately isn't committing as much as I wish she was and as much as I dislike cats I don't think a random kitten deserves to live in filth just because I can't find a middle ground.
Cat is two years old, we brought him to the vet twice, once for spaying, second time for general check up and also clear an ear mite infection.
Look dude, I get it: my girlfriend should be doing this and she isn't and that's a problem.
However relationships are complicated and so are people, right now I need solutions so both me and the cat suffer as little as possible.
Delegating the cleaning to someone else is not a solution I can use right now.
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>>5153591
>Because my girlfriend ultimately isn't committing as much as I wish she was
Then surrender the cat to a no-kill shelter.
>I need solutions so both me and the cat suffer as little as possible.
Surrender the cat to a no-kill shelter. What you are describing is generic cat ownership for the most part, especially with male cats. Male cats have really stinky piss. If you aren't willing to go to the vet, wait for the next vet appointment, or put in the work required, then it's not really going to work is it. It's not fair to you. It's not fair to the cat. It's not fair to anyone. There is no magic fix for this.

I love dogs, but I don't own a dog because I don't want to be constantly letting it outside to go to the bathroom. I don't want to go outside and play with it. I don't want to deal with a large animal knocking things over. If I bought a dog, but kept it in the garage all the time, you would rightfully say to me "Surrender the dog". That sounds like where you're at with this cat. Someone else can chime in if they want, but those are really your options here. Deal with the fact that you have a cat and all the maintenance issues that come with cat ownership, or surrender it to a no-kill shelter and let it have a chance to find a home with people who ARE willing to do all that. I guarantee you that your cat is responding to your negative emotions about it. Even if you aren't hurting it, emotional neglect is a thing.
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Good morning
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>>5153596
I didn't request a psychological evaluation of me, the cat of my relationship or general philosophies.
It's an animal that shits and piss, like any other animal: I simply do not like the smell of its litterbox and I am inexperienced with having a cat, so I need practical advice.
>just abandon the cat you raised for two years in a shelter!
Are you a single woman that makes frequent visits to planned parenthood?
Or did the toxoplasmosis hit particularly hard and me seeking solutions against filth triggered you?
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kill yourself paleoschizo
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>>5153601
nice greyboy
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>>5153607
Thanks, I love my little grey men
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>>5153608
I push the grey spots on my cat like they're buttons (he hates it)
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>want to go get coffee and a kolache
>cat is asleep on my chest
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i got my first cat a month ago. i got her a lot of shit, but she seems to get bored of it all within a day. catnip hasn't worked on her either.
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>>5153581
Yes. I have two Maine Coons, one is 5.5 kg (used to be 5.0 kg), the other is 7 kg. Although it's a bit of a different case for me as the smaller one was bred for his unique black gold ticked tabby coat and not your standard Maine Coon features. Vet said that even do he was a bit on the underweight side, but he gained a bit of weight recently. will weigh him soon again
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>>5153629
also here's a picture of his mum
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>>5153628
how old is your cat? wait until she's 1 year old. If catnip doesn't work, try valerian oil. mine go crazy after it
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>>5153584
No diarrhoea at all. His poo is very normal.
>>5153629
Everything I am reading is saying to judge not on numbers but on body condition, I just feel that personal responsibility to make sure he is a nice and healthy weight. He could just be a smaller cat.
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>vet recommends a cleaning on a 5 year old cat because plaque build up and two missing teeth
>debating a d1000 dice roll on whether or not he lives is worth it
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>>5153629
How much did you pay for them? I would love one but people are asking 3 grand for a kitten
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>>5153679
How hungry does he get? Is he always hungry?
What about yowling? Does he like to go into a room and make a bunch of noise?
Could be early signs of hyperthyroidism.
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>>5153628
Stuff that lay still and doesn't move in a funky way doesn't hold a cat's attention for long. Cat fishing pole is the best so far for me. Pic very much related.
Try throwing stuff they can very easily pick up in their mouth. Even small toys may not be easy for them to grab. Cats rarely fetch properly, but they like to chase, you just have to go and pick the toy up yourself and throw again after. When they do fetch, its seems innate, I've only had one do it, and she did it from the start, and every single time. She was so proud bringing it back too...
Anyways, buying tons of toys is pretty useless, she'd probably have more fun if you spent 20 minutes crumpling paper balls and throwing them around her.
Its important to keep your cat motivated and healthy, but they have their own life rhythm and personalities as well, so don't be surprised if you've got a chill cat that likes snuggling and sleeping more than playing. If you play with her around 1~2h a day and you still think she's getting really bored, you might want to try introducing her to a second cat to see if she reacts well.
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Hello friends. Is it normal for my cat to cry when I leave the house? I don't want him to be sad, and I don't know what to do?
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>>5153684
I'm from a third world shithole in Eastern Europe so i doubt that the price would help you. But I've spent 1200 euros on one, and for the other I've been given a 100 euro discount. most reputable breeder from where i live. here's a photo from when he was about 4 months old
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>>5153728
and the other one at 2 months and 3 weeks when i brought him home
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>>5153724
Tell him not to be a pussy
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>>5153732
Your mom is a pussy
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>>5153741
It was a joke because he is a cat

Pussy cat
Get it
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>>5153724
He needs a fren
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>>5153688
It is hard to tell exactly how much he is eating because he shares with his brother. But from what I can see, he eats a normal amount. Certainly doesn't overeat. As for the yowling, he doesn't do that normally. Looks like his weight is down by 200g (5.52 down to 5.32 over the course of about 6 weeks). It is only like 3.5% of his total body weight so not huge, but I want him to be steadily gaining weight at his age, not losing it.
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>>5153745
I know, I still decided to insult your mom regardless.
>>5153746
I actually have two cats, he's just a crybaby.
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>>5153684
Just a suggestion, but if it's really the general personality you are after rather than the very specific breed, you might look into a traditional "applehead" Siamese. They have a lot of very similar traits (friendly, loyal, intelligent, basically "dog like", although I warn you they tend to be very vocal), but because they aren't an "official" breed by any of the show-cat standards they tend to be a LOT cheaper. Like $500-1000. They also tend to be more robustly healthy than a lot of those officially recognized breeds.
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>>5153789
I should add they are definitely NOT the same. I haven't personally had a Maine Coon, but I think they are a lot less active ("laid back" is commonly used, although "playful" is often added as well). I just thought it should be something to look into
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>>5153789
>>5153793
One of the major Maine Coon traits I've found is they are basically giant clowns. For whatever reason they don't understand how big they are, which has resulted in all of mine rolling off of cat trees and getting their heads stuck in tissue boxes.
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Update: my Maine Coon who had lost a little weight saw the vet today. She said he is healthy, but wouldn't want to lose too much more weight and compared him to a very slim person (you wouldn't tell your skinny friend to go on a diet). She said his recent small amount of weight loss is probably related to some mild oral pain as his gums are a little inflamed. We got him some plaque-off to put into his food and they did a blood test just to rule out anything insane (she said the blood test wasn't strictly necessary but good to have for peace of mind). Glad he is okay bros, I was tossing and turning last night worrying about him.
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>>5153804
I'm very thankful he is okay. I would never want you or anyone else to go through the pain of throwing thousands of dollars at a problem, having to inject multiple different pills and liquids, only to watch them lose more and more weight till they're a fucking skeleton, ears drooping because they can't be held up anymore, fur falling out because the chemo meds and the immuno suppressant meds are eating their insides away...

Sorry for getting graphic. It just... I never want anyone to experience that. *I* never want to experience that ever again. Hug your cat for me. Give him a treat and lots of pets.
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Thinking of getting a cat maybe in the next year or so. One thing I see what I feel like is a surprising amount is stories about cats humping & cumming, even after being neutered. Is this common? Won't stop me getting one kek and I would definitely get a neutered cat but I am curious
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>>5153820
Also forgot to add how do you stop them e.g if doing it to you?
I had a dog when I was young but he never humped so all this is new to me.
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>>5152334
Update: got them and they're the cutest. 11 weeks old
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>>5153820
You can’t stop a coomer cat. They’re that way for life.

Its sadly more common than you think. My male cats try to fuck each other at least once a week.
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Do you think cats realize that they are cats?
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>>5153887
I think it is "like something" to be a cat, yes.
I think they have some sense of self-awareness, but little to no Theory of Mind. In other words, they are very solipsistic. They'll react to other creatures, but they dont have much of an idea that there's another person in there.
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>>5153827
Good man.
They look amazing. Do they like each other?
>>5153820
>One thing I see what I feel like is a surprising amount is stories about cats humping & cumming
Like, other cats? Yeah they'll do that a lot. To humans I've never seen it. Males will sometimes get a boner when you pet them, its a bit awkward for sure, but they don't hump you.
For what its worth I have a 1 year old unfixed male and he's entirely manageable.
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>>5152334
do cable management, hide your cables, protect your cables. get a water fountain. bathe them for no reason while they're kittens so that it'll be easier for you to do it when they're adults if they need it. play with their paws, trim their claws at an early age so they get used to it. brush them at an early age so they get used to it. shove small treats down their throat as practice for when you need to give them pills as adults
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>>5153795
he likes to flop heavily at my feet when I'm sitting on the toilet and almost every time he hits the door hard with his body, scaring himself in the process. he's a goof
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>>5154137
Sumi is a flopper too. She's been a flopper since she was a kitten. She loves coming right up to me and flopping against me, only to get up and flop back down again. She'll also come in and just scream at me about nothing. Normally I'm used to cats meowing then waiting for a reply. She just comes in, meows like a machine gun, and stares at me.

I got her when Yuki died, because Aki was falling apart without another thing in her life. Thankfully Sumi was exactly the right temperament. She decided Aki was her favorite thing in the world, and wouldn't take no for an answer. Didn't care if she got hissed at, got swatted at, got bit. She kept coming back and insisting on loving her.

She's alone now. I don't think she'll fall apart like Aki was going to, but I still feel awful at how alone she is.
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how do i know if my cat even likes me?
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>>5154151
Slow blinks, tail up when walking around, purring, trying to get your attention, rubbing up against you. Those are all signs of affection or at the very least being comfortable in your presence.
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>>5154151
Does your cat hang out with you? Sleep next to you? Groom itself near you?
If yes, than it does.
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>>5154151
If he is young, does he initiates play with you?
If he is older, does he sleeps close to you, and purr when you pet him?
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>>5144728
Longcat is long!
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Anyone have any tips on keeping cats off of furniture? I got a new TV stand and my cat's new hobby is to sit on it and paw at my TV. I covered the top in tinfoil but he doesn't seem to mind it at all and is actually playing with it.
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>>5154503
My friend had this issue and invested in a few automatic air-sprayers off Amazon. It has a movement sensor and sprays a small amount of air at the cat when it gets close. Perfect because it conditions the cat to no jump up there without the association of you yelling at it/giving it attention for doing something naughty. Plus its a lot nicer than a spray bottle.
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>>5154511
I'll look into those, thank you.
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>>5152619
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>>5144728
Looooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggg
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My drama queen cat always meows like he's fucking dying, I hate it, I wish I could teach him how to meow like a normal cat
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>>5154794
Cats meow for our benefit so if they're loud and faggy about it, its because they know that is what gets a response.
They meow at the same frequency of a crying baby because we're hard wired to respond to it.
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>>5154520
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I was brushing my old man and noticed the base of his tail gets kind of greasy. Is that just because he's old and not quite able to reach there? Should I clean it up regularly for him (he hates it)? He's about 17 btw. He's also got some kind of weird skin tag there (like 5mm protruding bit) but he's had that forever so I think it's nothing
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She ended playtime by falling asleep lmao
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The Imperial Meow-rch
Darth Meow theme song
https://youtube.com/shorts/1pck8wE498Q?si=EOgWNW93Aqha_u4x
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Today my cat ran out because I left a window open by accident. It's not the first time he runs out but today he turned very aggressive and feral when I tried to go near him. He struck me with his paw so hard like I was a complete stranger trying to hurt him. I thought he had rabies until I remembered that rabies symptoms don't show up that quickly. I really wonder what was his problem.
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>>5154897
Sounds like something got him really stressed out
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>>5154875
Live Reaction from my cat.
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What should I know about going to a shelter to adopt my first cat?

To be clear I've always had cats my whole life pretty much. But they've always just... Showed up. Now that I live by myself though, I live in an area I don't really expect that to happen and it still hasn't. I know how to take care of cats but like... What am I even looking for when I go to the shelter?
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>>5155003
I don't think there's any #1 right answer here just find a cat that kinda meshes with you. They might be under a lot of stress in the shelter as well as when they first move into your place so don't be surprised if it takes a few weeks for them to open up fully
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>need to take a leak
>but this cute little furball just got comfy
wat do?
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>>5155054
>finally get to go
>get back only too see furball #2 up and about again
The Black one's name is Luna btw and her sis is Celly
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>>5155054
>>5155056
>>5155057
Babies.
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>>5155089
Yeah and considering how curious they are since day 1, I might just take them for a full house tour later.
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>>5155099
Give them an absurd amount of pets for me.
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i really think my cat just stares at the door for 9 hours while i'm at work and does nothing
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>>5155054
>wat do?
Enjoy the renal failure.
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Sleepy
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I wonder what my cat dreams about, he growls in his sleep a lot, but he never does it when he's awake, and hes pretty much had a stress free life, so I wonder what is going through hit cat brain.
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My old cat had her first rally bad day. She's 16, but I'm still not ready for it.
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>>5155284
Mine passed in june this year at the old age of 15 and a half human years. It's a sucky feeling to let go but you should make his/her final days as peaceful as possible. Also get new kittens, your old cat wouldn't want to see you upset for eternity.
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>wake up into melancholy and slightly sad state this morning
>not sure what’s up with that, maybe bad dreams
>get up and do morning responsibilities
>lie back down on my back and try to get my thoughts together
>cat shows up and hops on my chest
>snuggles, doing the hug thing with her paws and rolling all over real cute
>thanks, miss. No idea how you knew.
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>>5155388
Cats know. They know and feel with you, my friend.
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>>5155388
>No idea how you knew.
They can hear your heartbeat and breathing from a room away.
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What wet cat food brands do you guys recommend? My cats are all between 6-10 years but I want to get them something higher quality than the alleged slop i've been feeding them
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>sit in kitchen
>babies join me
>they both take turns cuddling/giving me love nibbles
>day automatically and vastly improved
Thanks babies
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Kots
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>>5155702
Based kittens.
I asked my cat to help me send you and the kittens good vibes. I don’t know how powerful she is because she won’t tell me but hopefully it works out
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Anybody know what’s up with cats and tobacco? I have two and they absolutely fucking love the smell of unburnt tobaccos.
I smoke a pipe so I pack the bowl inside and then walk out to smoke, so don’t worry about the cats they’ve never got any smoke around them. But they go nuts for the pipe tobacco smell. If I open a tin of Peterson’s Early Morning Pipe, my cats will come running harder and faster than if I open a can of wet food. They demand to smell the tobacco after I open a fresh tin. I smoke different blends from time to time and they even seem to have little opinions on them. They come over to judge it and then they usually just respond after sniffing like
>hmmm yes, a fine tobacco indeed
I really don’t know what they’re on about but it’s kind of cute and endearing that they care so much.
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Any considerations for moving to a remote cabin innawoods with 2 cats?
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>>5155723
Cats just like stinky things. They have the same organs that snakes do that allows them to increase their ability to smell, if you've ever seen your cat make that face like they just smelled a fart, that's them using that organ.
Never had a cat go nuts for tobacco, but I only smoked cigarettes. The one exception is I had a cat that would eat a loose cigarette if it was left out.
And tobacco has all kinds of chemicals in it, I wouldn't be shocked if one smelled like catnip or something, and who knows what is in the shit they add to flavor pipe tobacco.
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>>5155740
>who knows what is in the shit they add to flavor pipe tobacco.
For what it’s worth, nice pipe tobacco is one of the only ways to just get plain tobacco. Rich people like it so it doesn’t get ruined like shit for the poors.
They don’t even put surgeon general warning on the packaging. It’s just cali prop 65. I might be worried if it was produced in the US or China but I order Danish blends that import Virginia tobacco and then turn it into the good stuff.
Sorry about the tobacco autism. I read who knows and thought I do! And now we’re here. My b
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>>5155752
Still, there are all kinds of chemicals in tobacco beyond nicotine that gives it all that flavor.
Also pretty sure everyone uses ammonia and urea to cure tobacco.
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I had to put my baby boy down, just half a decade old. I noticed his coat suddenly looked a little shabby a couple days prior and the tips of his ears were drooping so I thought it was an ear infection coming back since he had gotten treated for one fairly recently. One day I find him barely able to stand up and breathing really heavy, I rush him to the vet and his lungs are filled with fluid from cancer.
I also have a girl who was found in rough shape a year or two after him and still has a weak constitution and anxiety issues. I've always been paranoid I was going to lose her early, but I never thought twice about the boy. Shit was entirely out of left field. I let her sniff his body before taking him to get cremated because I heard it was good for their peace of mind, and it was rough. He was the only other cat she wasn't terrified of, so I feel like I'm keeping her company while she grieves more than the other way around. I just want to give her all the love and attention she can get now.
Sorry, I know the thread gets enough "cat died" posts but it happened so suddenly I don't know what to do with myself. He was so friendly and playful that I joked he was secretly a dog. Really feeling his absence to say the least.
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>>5155045
Hard part now for me is I just don't know what age of cat to target. I always liked the idea of adopting an older cat (lots of mine have been older) but I live in a smaller place and I'm a horn player so I don't want one to come in and be traumatized by me kek. Found some young 5 month old cats though that I also fell in love with from a rescue at pet smart. I'm gonna try and go animal shelter hunting later this weekend I guess and see what I jive with
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>>5155983
I think most cats are eventually good at learning stuff is safe after repeated exposure, as long as they have somewhere they can go so they're not literally right next to you while you do it it's probably fine
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>>5155722
Thanks Anon, look at these comfy babies
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>>5156111
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>>5156111
>>5156112
Babies.
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>cat is super affectionate
>hair trigger overstimulation
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I live in a rural area and recently I've seen a cat around my property. I believe it likely got dumped up here and is a stray. Winter will be coming soon enough and it probably won't survive that. How would I go about catching this cat? When I encounter it outside it runs away.
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>>5156111
>>5156112
You'll find them sleeping in a heart shape before too long.
>>5156125
If he's young, it'll come with time. Even if they like getting petted, its pretty unnatural, right? They don't know if its grooming or play or whatever, so it takes time to establish & build expectations and trust.
>>5156158
I'd try getting him by the stomach. Go buy some treats, when you walk around your property take the bag with you and just shake it audibly from time to time, and if you spot him, just put some kibbles in a spot. Do this even if he runs away from you the first times. After a week if he doesn't show some signs of being more curious about you, then look into some traps.
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If anyone wants a nice cheap effective DIY cat toy.
Get a medicine bottle.
Use a heated nail/pin or drill to put a few small holes in it.
Fill it up with some cat nip and a few marbles/ball bearings, then put the cap on.
Its the perfect size that they can pick up up in their mouths, but they can't get leverage to bite through it, the marbles give it a bit of weight, and helps crush up and move around the cat nip, while also making it a little noisier.
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>>5145877
Same :D
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>>5148057
Cocaine
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can't believe how easy it is to bathe him
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>>5156736
all pretty after drying
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>>5148655
get drawn (hopefully not breaking some sort of rule i just though he looked rly cute)
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>>5156736
Wish I could bathe my kot, he stepped in poo today so I poured like an inch of warm water in the tub and put him in and instantly he started screaming bloody murder and kept going for the whole 15 seconds he was in there. Then when I was trying to dry his paws with a towel he just kept hissing and swiping at me.
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>>5156788
Wrap the cat up in a towel like a burrito, but leave one paw out. This will let you molest their feet while keeping the cat mostly bundled up.
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>>5156858
this is also a good way to trim a cat's claws if they're not super cooperative and you don't have an extra pair of hands.
Trim one paw, release the cat, let it get over being mad with some wet food and treats.
Do another paw another time, etc, etc. As long as you're not a monster about it, eventually the cat will realize its easier to compliant by will.
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Does your cat sleep under your blanket when you sleep? I don't have a picture of my cat doing this, but he does especially in the winter. Only problem is he gets really hot which causes me to sweat.
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