>There is a personality type called the “grievance collector,” who remembers every last slight or misfortune he has suffered and knows who to blame for it. This attitude negates personal responsibility and creates a toxic persecuted “poor me” mentality that sometimes culminates in workplace shootings.
>>12943708I wouldn't have wanted to drop the belt to Shawn Michaels in 97 either if he treated me the way Michaels was running around and treating everyone else.
Fake belt fake business this was the first mark was in the ring moment. Real workers say the belt is a prop and don't give a fuck. He should have dropped it.
>>12943708He had all year in 1996 to face Shawn and get his win back, why did he think trying to big league Vince would work?
>>12943771You forgetting that Shawn faked a career ending injury to avoid dropping the bet to Brett?
>>12944563>Faked injury>HeadcanonHe had a legimate knee injury, same one Bret had at King of the Ring 97. Bret's such a egomaniac he convinced everyone Shawn faked it so he wouldn't job to him. When in reality, the plans were for Shawn to win again anyway
>>12943708Who's the quote from? I'm guessing Russo?
>>12944578yeah, and I believe him. I like Bret but he was a sick puppy for a few years there. I think he's mellowed out though
>>12943708Perfect description of Bret
>>12943708What does Bret Hart have to do with this description of CM Punk?
>Could have pitched a WM11 match with Shawn>Could have stayed in 1996 and worked with Shawn the entire year>Could have stayed long term with a cheaper contract >Vince said he would have made sure people acknowledged Bret as the greatest of all time when he retired>Had a guarenteed front office positionI feel bad for Vince, he was grooming Savage to be his 2nd in command and he fucked off to WCW. Then Bret did the same thing and let his ego get the better of him and fucked off to WCW as wellBasically when Bret left, all that was left from the Early 90s were The Undertaker & Shawn Michaels, resulting in them getting the treatment Bret Hart was going to get
>>12943708Bret wanted the company owner to do what he, a company employee, wanted.
Isn't Phil like this?
>>12944576>He had a legimate knee injuryLmao he bitched and moaned because he didn’t want to job to Bret. Good thing we got Steve Austin to save us.
>>12945221Punk legimately got buried hard by wwe, but to be fair to them he's legimately a piece of shit human being
>>12945248Nope, the real story was he had a legimate but minor knee injury. He had the option to wrestle through it or sit out, he chose to sit out since the heat Bret had for him made him feel like he would have tried to shoot injure him, which Bret confessed he wanted to do. Also Shawn was pissed because Bret was working the Canadian media, shoot burying him all year only to discover Bret was negotiating with WCW
>>12945208>feel bad for Vince, he was grooming Savage to be his 2nd in command and he fucked off to WCW.What bullshit is this? Vince didn’t want Randy to wrestle anymore because he was getting older. Why do you think they pushed him as commentator so hard?
>>12945251No like I heard he treats all his friends like crap because he thinks there all out to get him
>>12943752>Fake belt fake business this was the first mark was in the ring moment. Real workers say the belt is a prop and don't give a fuckt. Zoomer who doesn't know how AWA treated hullk hogan
>>12945262>Also Shawn was pissed because Bret was working the Canadian media, shoot burying him all year only to discover Bret was negotiating with WCWAnon, don’t act like Shawn was an angel. In the man’s own words from his books, he was in a terrible time and in a terrible place because he placed all the weight of the WWF on his shoulders. Not just that be he admits to being hard to work with too. Drugs, depression and so on will do that,
>>12945268Nope
>>12945280nobody acted like Shawn was an angel. But Bret was out of line for a lot of what he said in the media at the time. Bret will admit it too. You can say what you want about Shawn but he never ran to the dirt sheets or the media to bury Bret Hart. He did all of that on live television.
>>12945280I'm only defending him on the Bret feud, which is mostly Bret's fault for being a egomaniac.
>>12945299>Bret puts Shawn over and agrees to do it again despite bad blood>Shawn says I would never put you over >Bret is the egomaniac
>>12945379He only said that after hearing about Bret negotiating with wcw, besides Shawn was midcard from 1992-1995 waiting for his main event push while Bret was champ
>>12945379>>Bret puts Shawn over and agrees to do it again despite bad blood>>Shawn says I would never put you overThe death spasms of the pro-Bret argument.Literally irrelevant and most likely Bret's headcanon anyway.
>>12945287Vince is such a retarded faggot
>>12945442>Literally irrelevant and most likely Bret's headcanon anyway.What did she mean by this? Bret lost more than anyone here. And that’s a fact.
>>12945290Post that shit because I doubt anyone is gonna care what two wrestlers are gonna say on a night show.
>What did she mean by this? Bret lost more than anyone here. And that’s a fact.>Post that shit because I doubt anyone is gonna care what two wrestlers are gonna say on a night show.Try again fellas
>hey pat, I like you you’re pretty cool don’t come to Survivor Series 1997 tomorrow
>>12945963you're a shawn markthat means you're a faggotno argument will redeem you
>you're a shawn mark>that means you're a faggot>no argument will redeem you
>>12945963Sorry Shawnmark, but Shawn got a second run while everyone but Bret died. Bret lost more than Shawn.
>>12945290>>12945963>>12945985Nah share that shit I want to see Bret talking shit about Shawn.
>Sorry Shawnmark, but Shawn got a second run while everyone but Bret died. Bret lost more than Shawn.
>>12946051>>12946042
>>12945963Bretcuck finally took his meds. The side-effect is typing like a mongoloid.
>>12943708>>There is a personality type called the “grievance collector,” who remembers every last slight or misfortune he has suffered and knows who to blame for it. This attitude negates personal responsibility and creates a toxic persecuted “poor me” mentality that sometimes culminates in workplace shootings.There is a guy I work with that is a lot like this, dude will be cool one minute then someone walks in and he flips out because of some shit that supposedly happened a couple weeks ago. His incompetence is mind boggling too, how he hasn't been canned yet is a constant topic of debate not just between us but between supervisors and even corporate apparently. I do everything I can to stay on his good side though, so when the day comes I'll get that text that says, "Hey, you're a cool guy, don't come into work today."
>>12945221difference is that Bret has suffered a lot of hardships. Grew up in wrestling, literally the only thing he loves, but at the same time the business has taken much of his friends and family from him.What the fuck does Punk have to bitch about.
>>12946086His point is that, Bret is 100% to blame for that. He was on top from 1992-1995 way before Shawn ever sniffed the championship. He had literally nothing to be fucking angry at Shawn about, other than sheer paranoia over HBK taking his spot in the company. Which Vince McMahon illuded to in his "Bret Screwed Bret" shoot interview
>>12943721It's not real. Pack your bags and fuck off if you don't like it.
>>12944576>legitimate knee injuryI love Shawn, but he came out at Wrestlemania 13 and did a backflip where he landed on his feet, which put more pressure on his knees than 90% of bumps, all but announcing that he was fine.
>>12943708Isn't this literally everybody on 4chins?
>>12946140That was literally after Summerslam. He returned to the ring by King of the Ring 1997. So it took him 5 months to recover from his injury. By August of that year was when he did the backflip. Also if you watched him enough you would know he was way faster in the ring in 1996 than he was in 1997. Far more agile as well, so yeah he was genuinely hurt
I understand why Bret hates Shawn, however ridiculous the reason it is. But why did RVD also seems to hate him? RVD only met Shawn when he's allegedly turns over a new leaf post 2002.
>>12946287He thought Shawn buried him for some reason, Shawn said he was really good but needed to tone down the flippy shit if he wanted to go to the next level
>>12946287RVD was just bitter at HHH and Shawn caught shrapnel because Paul and HBK are BFF. Many such cases.
>>12946294>hey kid stop doing whatever it is you're good at and what makes the crowd love youYeah I'll be pissed off too if some old faggot tries to talk me down.
>>12943708Corncuck is exactly the same.
>>12946306He was literally right, you could never take RVD seriously as a top guy because he did so much flippy shit.
>>12946089>>12946086Link it Shawncuck
>>12946104I’m not gonna blame the either, I’m just gonna go with blaming Vince for being an incompetent moron who has no idea to run his own company or manage his contracts with his talents.
>>12943708I'm glad Goldberg kicked his head off
>>12944587>yeah, and I believe him. I like Bret but he was a sick puppy for a few years there. I think he's mellowed out though
>>12945208nah vince is a fag and deserved to lose savage
>>12943708>sometimes culminates in workplace shootings.Yet Bret was the guy getting shot on in Montreal loool
>>12945271they should he would deserve it
>>12944578yes, Russo making unverified claims as usual.
>>12945388nah he definitely said it to piss bret off
>>12947846Russo may be a bullshitter but I believe that 100%. Bret's still bitter about shit to this day I could see him saying that shortly after.
>>12946093phil is the kind of faggot who would bitch about someone using his driveway to reverse their car
>>12947860Then why hasn't anyone else in the business supported this claim that Bret was prepared to shoot up a building?
>>12946319nah i could
>>12947866Well I remember Russo said that when he went up to Bret in WCW to clear the air about Owen and everything else in late 99. Bret was surely in a very negative state of mind for that conversation.
>>12943708literally unironically me
>>12945278>terry, marry my daughter and stop her from having sex with all of those underage schoolboys>i'll give you the belt, a piece of my failing business and some of your merch sales too>that doesn't work for me brothercan you imagine how many flippy midgets would have said yes? haters wanna call hogan a mark, but a mark would have said yes
>>12947880You also suck cock on a daily basis so no one really cares what you think
>>12945221Punk is just new age Bret
Imagine taking anything Vince Russo says seriously
>>12943708I mean he played a hitman on TV.... Based Bret keeping the business alive.
meh i'd rather someone like bret who takes it a little too seriously and is a straight shooter than someone like shawn who lies about everything and is part of the reason why wrestling is trash now
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>>12943752shut the fuck up zoomer. read a book.>>12943752>real workersyou mean cherrypicking some that you agree with, right
>>12945967underrated
>>12943752With this logic Hogan and flair were massive marks
>>12943708After all he did for Vince he deserved to be treated better on his way out, especially because he didnt want to leave but Vince basically made him by reneging on his contract
>>12943721It's not a case of "not wanting to job" you don't talk about guns and killing the staff. and sounding completely sincere about it.
>>12943708
>>12943708cringe
>>12949928kek where is that from
reminder that there is literally less distance between America and Greenland than there is between the city where Bret was born and the city where he was asked to drop the title
>>12943708I.e Borderline personality disorder
>>12948965It's Bret's fault for trying to big league vince by negotiating with WCW in 1996 as leverage to get him to overpay for the contract. That's what turned Shawn against him too
>>12949928Brutal
>>12950475That's not what that is
>>12947950BASED HULKSTER BROTHERONE MORE RUN BROTHER
>>12950472kek
>>12950660Reminder Bret said Vince gave him a option to stay, but he would have had to agree to lose clean at Survivor Series, before getting his win back on Raw in 1998. But Bret declined and went to WCW instead.
>>12945379>>Bret puts Shawn over and agrees to do it again despite bad bloodBret didn't put Shawn over. What he did is similar to what Hogan did with Sting at Starrcade - that is save face by beating him first and then losing because of some misunderstanding, taking the thunder out of Michaels and making the win feel hollow as a result. From what I remember Shawn was only an asshole as a result of Bret being one, not the other way around.
Bret was such a self mark faggot. >"BU BU I CANT LOSE IN CANADA, ITS MY HOME TOWN"If I was a wrestler I would refuse to lose on planet earth since its my home planet if we are using bret the Shitman farts logic
>>12950986based
>>12946287Shawn and HHH both trashed RVD, they told the office that he "Didn't know how to work", pretty sure they did the same with Punk, although Punks a faggot so wgaf
>>12951174Shawn literally praised RVD Shawn also prevented Vince from burying CM PunkShawn gets heat for shit Triple H did
>>12951186>Shawn literally praised RVD>Shawn also prevented Vince from burying CM Punkyeah overtly, but backstage they were both burying them to Vince
>>12951192There's no proof that Shawn buried any either of them
>>12949928Kwab
