Alright /b/. Im an old dude (45) so im not going to use the normal language bullshit you see here. Im not going to say shit like beginning a sentence with "Be me". Guess I'm not cool enough anymore lol.So here we are in my 4th divorce. Anyone want to guess the reason the reason I'm in my 4th divorce? Western women are fucking aweful.1st divorce- I was on my first deployment (submarine navy) a month in and she started fucking her boss at the restaurant she worked.2nd divorce- I rescued some chick from her bad decisions and the moment she was comfortable she felt she no longer needed to give me what I needed ie the sex tap turned off.3rd divorce- repeat number 2.4th divorce- repeat number 3.Moral of this story if you make a good income you will be a target of women looking at you like a bank account. I wish I could count the times ive been told something about how sexual a girl was only for that shit to be a complete lie later on. They will literally say anything especially once they have a couple fuck trophies they can't pay for.Morale of this story is dont bother. Stay single, rub one out on a regular basis or get your rocks off on targets of opportunity but for the love of God don't get married and subject yourself to the fucked up divorce laws in this country. It only changes if we refuse to play the game. Pic of whorish ex for reasons.
when my cousin was in the military his 1st wife stole everything out of his bank account and was living with another man.
And I will have my vengeance ON PETER PAN PETER. PETER PAN.
>>939492150Sounds like the common factor is you. Have you tried not being a piece of shit man? Like really tried?
>>939492321Saw this myself. Every deployment wed have a half a dozen divorces. (Crew is only about 120 with about half of us being married so thats like 10% divorce rate per deployment)
>>939492476Lol. Saw this one coming. I'll admit to not being the best husband at times but the initiating factor was always being frustrated because the sex life died early.There's an old joke that nothing kills a woman's sex drive like wedding cake.
>>939492476He may not be a piece of shit, but he sure is slow to learn life lessons.
>>939492605Fucking facts lol.
>Dumbass jarhead
>>939492904I was a submariner in the navy (nuclear operator) and now have a 6 figure engineering position. I was not a marine
I'm 26 and been in LOVE with 2 girls, first love of my life died in 2021 when we were both 22 at the time... Other one I never got fully to myself and she met someone else and married him... First other girlfriends I grew up with from a kid and spent alot of my life with have all married and had kids, all the girls I knew from coming of age parties got older and married some loser and lost their looks at 30ishOnly girls I've ever shagged or got with other than the one who died in her sleep were pretty meh.... and not the dreamlike muse I want them to beI feel like I am just waiting for someone bearable, most are whores I can't be bothered to even waste the time with. I am 26 and my sex drive isnt interested in going out to even pick up girls... used tinder and got 100 matches in 2 weeks but never want a relationshipAt this point I just don't care... I wish my first gf was still alive... I feel the only true love is couples who got together in high school and committed to each other for years after, the idea of dating to them a lost idea...I struggle to care for sex and stuff.. If I want pleasure I would rather smoke some heroin or have a wank... I hate how blackpilled I am and I just sit in my paid off 5 bed house alone everyday and still having random breakdowns of throwing and breaking shit over the love of my life who died in her sleep and her little heart just went out one day and now shes gone forever.... and i look out the window at another summer coming to an end and search streets and rooms and parties but I can never find her...
Trying not to let this one die because I actually want to help you b.
>>939492150>So here we are in my 4th divorceYou're a moron and stopped reading right there, you're stupid and shouldn't bee giving any advice to anyone.Recently some moron was complaining about raising some adopted gypsies wasted a whole lot of money on those animals just so they could ghost him after, now he's old and bitter.I should've told him: don't raise bastards.You're just like him a moron, falling for every single trick in the book.
you dont have to leave the west to find a good woman but youre gonna have to be okay with no biological kids at the very leastthe truth is that trans women are just better partners, they will get along better with you and they actually understand how and what you feel unlike cis women who can only pretend and feel pity at bestalso the sex with them is way better and a lot of them will have a higher sex drive than you and not like "tee hee im such a slut" kind that you hear from basic bitches on tinder, and making them orgasm is much more fun than with cis women
>>939492150lol. lmao even. i'm 54. still on my first wife. three happy kids. you're a failure.
>>939492476He's probably not a piece of shit if he rescued 3 bitches from whatever shitshow they were in, and he's probably squared away at work. He's just massively blue pilled that's all. And he needed 4 red pill suppositories before that changed. And military deployments are kinda shit for women too - no man at home to dick them down for many months, plenty of free money, and no supervision. So they stray and cheat. Think being forced to do NNN for 6 months.
He's gone through 4 divorces and still blaming everything but himself to be the problem.I'm not taking no advice from someone in their 40s with 4 divorces.Get it together man lol
>>939493078>I feel the only true love is couples who got together in high school and committed to each other for years afterUnfortunately this is more true than you realize. Bonding chemicals get blown out from hookups, so the people who find their match early are the only real winners in this shitshow. No other dicks/pussy to compare to, so they stay put and learn to work together properly, and the female isn't in it for the money (because HS dudes have none).
>4th divorce>Retard thinks he is smart enough to give adviceSit down gramps
>>939492588how small is your penus?
>>939498201Agreed lolOP do yourself a favor and don't even try for a 5th one. I mean your bank account probably won't allow you to do anything other than cry yourself to sleep anyways
>>939493078> i look out the window at another summer coming to an end and search streets and rooms and parties but I can never find herpeople ask me why i don't have a girlfriend.this. hard pass.
Good choice OP. I'm well into my 50's and it's my 9th year into MGTOW. Loving life. Laughing at bitches who pretend they like me.
>>939497968Indeed. Just one sexual partner... Growing up together and it just being so easy.... More likely to stay together and all your love given to one person... Only having touched each other, walking or going somewhere together and not realizing how happy they truly are :(>>939499177True... I can't remember the last item I saw a beautiful looking girl. It is like every girl is a whore has dogshit tattoos, work done to their face, is just a horrible cunt or jesus... in the UK most are not even white... The goal of meeting a nice young blonde with white skin and getting her pregnant seems to feel more impossible by the day.Fuck don't even get me started on their Instagram addiction, so now every girl you date has the chance of getting 1000000000000 messages from other men.Like why even bother? I just use drugs if I want pleasure. I am not a bad looking guy, not chad but alright in terms of looks and this point I just wait until a girl makes the first move ffs... at least I know she actually wants me
>>939492150>Stay single, rub one out on a regular basis or get your rocks off on targets of opportunity but for the love of God don't get married and subject yourself to the fucked up divorce laws in this country.already figured this out without marrying even onceyou sound kind of slow
>>939502761Never know... Maybe the fourth marriage was the one that was gonna last forever <3!..kek
>>939492150You're picking them. Everything past the first one is on you. "repeat 2" and "repeat 3", that's shame on you.
>>939492150missing pic
https://voca.ro/13Lttw2l9JzmWhat crappy advice from an "adult" lol
Ignore OP. I could give him 20 years and still have change. I’m also still married to the woman I met in my teens in college.I agree that anecdotal data isn’t necessarily universally applicable, but we all know that OP is always a faggot. Especially in this case, it would appear
>>939492150I’m 37. Been married about 10 years and still have sex on the regular.
>>939492150You're just a gorilla nigger, how could you possibly have not learned your lesson at the first broad you tried to save from her own retardation?Plenty of chicks are walking black holes you should run from the first red flag you see.
>>939504718>I’m also still married to the woman I met in my teensSo let me see if I've got this straight: you're 70 years old. You met a girl more than 50 years ago - so that's 1975It was possible in 1975 to find a marriage-worthy woman. Your wife, if she wasn't a virgin, had maybe one previous sexual partner. Let me explain to you how it works in 2025:(1) any woman over 18 who isn't a virgin for religious reasons has AT LEAST 15 bodies on her roster(2) no woman over 18 is single. If they don't have a boyfriend, they have a "situationship" or a "fuck buddy" - they all have at least one man who they regularly "hook up" with(3) all women go through a "party phase" where they hit clubs and fuck a different guy every week. Some of them tire of that quickly. Others continue that way for years and sleep with hundreds of men.(4) almost all women are hot in their 20s, and this enables them to sleep with very, very high value men. Most women have been with athletes, actors, millionaires. Most women have been on yachts. Many have been on private jets.Point (4) means their standards are ridiculous. They will always compare you to an amalgam of other men they've been with. You wont be as rich as Joe. You wont be as famous as Steve. You'll never be good enough.Point (3) means they are emotionally broken. They will never bond with you the way your 1975 wife bonded.Point (2) means they'll never really give you a chance. If you date them, you'll pay for dinner, then she'll uber to her FWBs house and have sex. You'll feel like a real chump.Point (1) means they're all "alpha widows" - they all secretly pine for some chad who fucked them early on in their sexual experience. This is a slightly different problem than inability to bond. This is an inability to be happy.I have real-world examples of all of the above, and it's not even every landmine that's out there these days. Pic-related is another one.
>>939492150I've never even been in a relationship so i'll keep it in mind. I most likely won't ever be with a woman and the more time passes, the more you just accept it
>>939505507I have nieces. You’re full of shit and clearly associate with the wrong sort if women.
>>939505507This nigga definitely consumes redpill, manosphere, mgtow content. Respect. He makes good points but he definitely listens to kevin samuels and maybe coach greg adams.
>>939505710>I have nieces.So?Please tell me that the point you're trying to make is NOT "as an uncle, I am intimately familiar with the sexual activity of my nieces"Because my god is that ever a dumb point.Look at the examples I'm posting. Pic-rel is an example of point 1.
>>939505507Here's an example of point 2
>>939505507I have many, many examples of point 3 (that women fuck one new guy per week on average).Note that this example isn't from some fringe kink subreddit. It's from r/askwomen. This is normal woman behavior. One-per-week is an average, a rule of thumb. If a woman tells you that she's been single for two years, it's safe to assume 104 bodies.If she tells you she had no boyfriend in college, it's safe to assume 200 bodies over those 4 years.
>>939505507Here's an example of point 4Anyone denying that this is the dating landscape in 2025 is lying to you ...and possibly lying to himself. There are simps that are just as blind and retarded as the leftist women who advocate for infinite migrants and then are surprised when they get stabbed on the train. Cognitive dissonance is a real thing
>>939506349The amount of women I've encountered or heard personal anecdotes through friends frequenting the apps and hooking up constantly in the past couple of years is insane. We live in the age of whore, quite literally.
>>939492150You need you an Asian girl.
>>939492150>1st divorce- I was a useless piece of shit who cant do anything but join the army and be away from home for god knows how long while my wife cucks me with PedroIm not reading the rest of your shit
>>939492476Redditors should be banned from this place. Way too much oestrogen from you faggots, and way too little use of the brain.
>>939497850He's still a piece of shit. To ask 4 women to marry you and fail four times means he wasnt being authentic in why he wanted to marry them. He does not want marriage. What he wants is to not be alone, and he will sacrifice anyone, including himself, to achieve that goal.He can find someone good if he learns this about himself and takes some time to reflect on the piece of shit he has been.
>>939506690Same, and agreed. It's truly a nightmare if you want to have a family.Fortunately, I no longer want a family and I have a pretty okay time letting older women believe that I'm an easy mark (like OP) who will save them and give them access to my bank account.If you're attractive and have some game, women will clock you as a "fuck boy" and ...they'll fuck you. But when these women get a little older, they want an easy life. And when that happens, if you're in reasonable shape (don't have to be built, just not fat) and your career is going well (having a house and a car is like the root password), then you'll find that women way WAY out of your league will chase you - these are women who wouldn't give you the time of day when they were younger.And so, all you have to do is play along, and you can fuck these women for up to a year before they really start putting the pressure on for you to commit. When that happens, just don't be like OP. Just don't marry them.
>>939492150Or... travel to the Phillipines, or Thailand, and get sucky sucky there. But don't bring her to your home country, or she will become like the rest
>>939492150More than likely you're some retard that does everything for a woman, and then holds it over her head, and then you act surprised when the little control she has in the relationship is (her pussy) used against you.You've got stop that shit. Do things for women you like, but never expect anything in return, and if she doesn't reciprocate in a way that you want, that's when you get another woman in your life who will. Here's another thing you have to do: be yourself. I know, this is such a stupid thing to say, but a lot of dudes are slobs, then act like the perfect gentleman on a date, and then are surprised when their bitch leaves after finding out their man is a slob. Nah dude, just be a slob and hope she doesn't leave. A successful relationship for a man is not gauged upon how many women he can obtain, but how many stay in his life.Also never get married. I'm a younger man, I'm 37, but I saw all friend's parents getting divorced left and right. It's been a weaponized mouse trap for decades, and no man in his right mind would risk getting a piece of cheese in one of them, another fucking reason why you're retarded because you fell into it four fucking times. Take it easy, don't rush, don't get fucking married, give her every option to leave, but hope she stays. That's the best any of us guys can do, and so can you.
>>939492150>So here we are in my 4th divorce. Anyone want to guess the reason the reason I'm in my 4th divorce?because you're so stupid you cannot even learn from experience?>1st divorce- I was on my first deployment (submarine navy)No pity from me on this one, I know you military fucks just get married to get out of the barracks and the extra money.>2nd divorce- I rescued some chick from her bad decisionsCaptain Save-A-Hoe>3rd divorce- repeat number 2.See number 2>4th divorce- repeat number 3See number 2 again.Thank you for proving me right, you're far too stupid to learn from experience, it's one thing to refuse to learn from teaching or books, but when you see the stove on and you put your hand to the fire, you're supposed to LEARN when it hurts, not put your hand on the fire again, you fucking loser.The truth is, you divorced 4 times because it's YOUR fault. Specially nowadays when there's no reason to marry at all, the only real benefit is filing taxes as a married couple. Just get together with a bitch and toss her ass out into the street before common law marriage kicks in, just in case you live in a commiefornia hellhole.
>>939492150Be me TL;DR
>>939509450I've never been in a relationship and never will be in one. Women want what they want and it is not me
I’m currently in a relation with a hot emo and he takes dumps in my mouth literally
>>939492150>I rescued some chick from her bad decisionssounds like you're the type of retard who goes to shitty places to pick up shitty womenliterally getting what you asked for
bump
>>939505507~20 years ago, party schoolThere were women who went out and fucked everything that moved. I knew a few that went for highscores at frat houses.They were in the minority.The vast majority of women in college were in a LTR at any given point. Outside the frat mattresses, any given woman in college had maybe 1-3 boyfriends over the course of their college stay. Many (more than the absolute sluts) were seeking safe stable relationships. Every girl had the promiscuous friend they lived vicariously through. Maybe a girl had a one night stand or two in college. Maybe they sucked a few dicks. But none of you fuckers were doing any different. Again, vast majority of the girls in college were, at least, monogamous looking for a LTR. Most of the ones that broke bad were because their guy cheated on them first.I am excluding the drug addicts from these stats.Again this was before tinder, but certainly during match, and PoF.Oh, and there were plenty of girls keeping their virginity for someone they actually loved. Religion aside.Y'all just looking for an excuse to hate on women. There's lots of good ones out there. Stop treating them like shit and they fall on your dick.
>>939492150You're 0/4 in your marriages. It takes extreme avoidant behavior to think women are the problem and you have 0 to do with it.
>>939492150Good advice anon. >ie: the sex tap turned offRealistically this is all women. They use sex for fun in the first weeks/months of the relationship, then use it as a control mechanism until you put a ring on her finger and once she's got you locked in she'll stop the sex completely. I've warned many many many other dudes about this but everyone thinks I'm full of shit until they're a year into their marriage and they're unironically looking forward to their annual birthday blowjob.
>>939493078>22yo>paid off 5 bedroom houseFuck man you're in the fucking top 10% of society, the fuck are you doing?Most people would kill to be in your position. House prices go up 100k every year and you need to earn 150k/yr to qualify for a loan, almost everyone in this thread will be a rent cuck their whole lives up until their 70s when they die of old age on the job and you're complaining about having a fucking house to yourself?Sucks about your love life but shit man, count your blessings. With AI getting better there's not even really a reason to be worried about getting a little pussy or a hug once in a while or not.
>>939492150Do you eat enough poopoo?
>>939492150>Anyone want to guess the reason the reason I'm in my 4th divorce?i don't need to guess, i knowthe reason is that you're incapable of learningi can see giving marriage a second chance after one divorce (i mean, i'm not dumb enough to do that, one was enough for me to learn my lesson), but after two you're either a moron or a masochist
I can't believe OP got duped by three fixer uppers and thinks he's qualified to give advice on women lmaoHere's a free tip unc, date women in a similar social bracket/level of accomplishment as you. I suspect the reason you dated down on women 2-4 was because going after fixer uppers who needed help in life was easier than finding a woman who challenges you to be as good as you can be, which is also precisely why they lost interest when you "fixed" them: you had nothing interesting underneath what you could provide.Work on yourself, sounds like you have a lot left to do at 45
>>939518241>move to a red state in the south>be surrounded by feral niggersno thanksthe niggers we have up here even say excuse me when passing by you in the grocery
>>939492150Bro I'm gonna be honest:This has nothing to do with the women. This has *everything* to do with your complete inability to fucking learn from your mistakes. You don't have the ability to vet women for true interest. You don't know how to follow patterns. So YOU kept fucking YOURSELF over. First divorce? Okay fine. Second divorce? Should've been a massive wakeup call. YOU just don't know how to pick women. You kept picking the same type of woman and legit expected a different result.So in actuality you do provide good advice: Do the exact opposite of what this faggot did. Still hasn't learned his lesson after 4 fucking times, lol. Whatever he says, do the opposite.
>>939492476not OP there are good women out there but they are really hard to find. I have had sex with about 30 women and a lot of them probably over half of them i was in a relationship with or we at least had been friends for a while before messing around. women are just really flakey in general and you cant really rely on them or trust them to not randomly change how they feel over some trivial shit. the biggest pattern i can say ive observed with women is that when a woman is struggling in life a man will always save them. or they will have support from their friends. when a dude is struggling more times than not a woman will leave them and just get the ick and its a sad fact of life because life is hard and we all go through bullshit. so you cant really trust them to have your back. most relationships therefore between men and women are inherently one sided by while times are good the relationship will be "good." but its temporary and fleeting. biggest cautionary tale i can tell you is never put your relationship before your friends or your bros because if you do that, when a relationship ends you have nothing. so keep your bros around and keep hanging out with them while you date. dont get tunnel vision and blow off your friends for the person you love or it will just bite you in the ass later and you will need to build your entire life again from square one. best example i have is my buddy you lost his dad, he had been dating someone for a while and they were getting really serious. he ended up crying at some point telling her how much he missed her and she ended up telling him some shit like it changed the way she saw him and she just didnt feel the same any more and they broke up. imagine that scenario in reverse? thats the sort of illogical one sided bullshit you get dating women. no one bats an eye when a women does shit like this but if a man did it everyone would talk about him being a piece of shit. just the nature of the sexes.
>>939498244not him but i have a 7.5 inch dick last person i was with was telling me how it looks perfect and like a porn star dick. that doesnt stop women from doing dumb bullshit regardless if you make them squirt or cum over and over. ask me how i know.
>>939492150I work offshore. Everyone is divorced and paying child support to kids they never get to see. The woman cheat the moment you leave for work hitch. I broke up with my GF of 3 years when she wanted kids, but I could tell it was to lock me in.Now I'm single and ride dirtbikes with my brothers on my off time.
>>939518815are you on an oil rig? ive been thinking of getting into that. i already have a physically difficult job that takes me away from home for a while and since im single i think im in a good place to do that. good on you for enjoying your life.
I'm 40, have a 35 year old wife, 6 years of marriage, 16 years together, two kids. We still fuck 1-2 times a week, as much as we can squeeze in, our kids are small. When we had a baby, those two years were difficult in that regard, sometimes it took 2-3 weeks to squeeze in a quickie, but now they are in kindergarten, and we work from home 2 days a week.On those days we chip off half an hour from our lunchtime, she puts on the slutty lingerie I give her, and we fuck a good 30-45 minutes with both cumming once or twice.Or if she is not that much in the mood, then we go into the shower and sucks me off or give a nice handjob while she plays with my ass. Luckily she usually gets aroused doing it, so in the end she turns around and offers her pussy too.Long story short, being together for a long time does not mean you won't get sex. The bottom line is, that most women are fucking stupid and don't realize that marriage is work and dedication. But that is also true for me. Most people are fucking stupid in general. So look for one that isn't, and stick with him/her. As for you, OP, if you fail once, that can be the world, or a coincidence. Fall into the same thing twice is suspicious, leaning towards you being the problem, but might be a streak of bad luck. Falling into the same thing 3+ times? It's you, man, and the universe is trying to teach you a lesson you don't seem to learn.
>>939495094We're beyond helpyou know that a good majority of us won't make the same mistakes you made either, or get married for that matter
The first one was right: don't expect a young woman to burn this time off alone while you have adventures saving the world.This made you bitter and the women you describe in the last three sound bitter.You seem clear on why the women are choosing you, but why are you choosing them?I've chosen women by how sexy and entertaining they have been, but there are a lot of wrong reasons to choose women.I understand that we are to choose strong, feminine women that are interested in starting a family and are practically inclined to do so. I'd love to try it some day.Also, oldfag here.
>>939492150After my boomer dad's third divorce, he gave me a piece of advice. He flat out told me, "Anon, don't get married!" Child support raked him over the coals. I never forgot those words. Now I'm 37, have only been in one meaningful relationship, and luckily that never panned out into marriage. Thankfully I'm ugly and don't make much money, so I'm going to be single for the rest of my life. Odd thing to be thankful for, but there we go.Only thing that sucks is occasionally dealing with friends and family being like "Don't you WANT a family, anon? Of course you do, put yourself out there and you'll find someone!" There's no one for me, and marriage is only going to end in brutal, bitter divorce, and I can't have that.>Morale of this story is dont bother. Stay single, rub one out on a regular basis...Yeah I never understood, if you don't feel the pangs of loneliness and you're content with jerking off, why risk losing everything just for occasional sex?
>>939492150damn you're gonna inflict your faggot self on some unfortunate woman from another country huhfour failed marriages take a hint you bozo
>>939521592you were raised by a retard and took his lessons to heart
>>939492150Men are just a resource to harvest, its not just "women" its actually all of society.
>>939521660there are plenty of people who have healthy normal relationships where they're not trying to manipulate or take advantage of someoneget out more or maybe all your friends and family are shit
>>939521695not at all true. All women will sacrifice their man if its deemed to be beneficial to them. There's no such thing as loyalty.
>>939492150>Stay single, rub one out on a regular basisDid this until the age of 40.Can't cum in girlfriend (can but it's rare) cause death grip is real. Do not listen to this man.
>>939506078>Please tell me that the point you're trying to make is NOT "as an uncle, I am intimately familiar with the sexual activity of my nieces"No it isn't. Now run along Timmy and see if you can work out why it's relevant.Also, you have dozens of examples, you say, some appear to be culled from Plebbit. And you think that's evidence? Remind me how many women there are on the planet.
>>939492150Let me give you the real redpill on the cause (not the symptoms) and why this is MAN made problem.We have 5500 years of recorded history, every war was fought by men, every rebellion and revolution was started and fought by men.We live in the age of communication and tech where most men can read and have access to dangerous ideas/ideologies previously only accessible to the higher class. In the times where whole country can organize and send/receive messages instantly, the most dangerous creature for the elite is the common man (especially the young ones) who will gladly retaliate with violence when given the choice.Here is your traditional societyElite (Men) -> Pleb Men -> Pleb WomenHere is your modern society after industrializationElite (Men) -> Pleb Women -> Pleb MenWomen are just the buffer zone between the men who rule and the men who produce. They are tool for soft control since men will never retaliate with the violence that they will use against other men, especially against men they perceive as enemies who have greatly wronged them.The conflict of men vs women is not just useful, it's necessary for our society to work the way it works.It's important for the elite to make sure a woman whores around as much as possible and enable it because this makes it impossible to build stable family that will produce men with strong ideals. It also means that a woman will rather die alone than live with some man she perceives as loser, which is 80% of the men.This is the most effective birth and population control in existence that will not even be noticed by most people.Women are used for convincing men that they should accept their own destruction simply because someone voted for it. They are used to convince men to no retaliate, imagine if voting didn't exist but the same decisions were made, how ill men react to "we are importing thousands of men from other countries".Fucking char limit.TLDR: men allowed it, no crying
>>939522457This is one of the biggest tinfoil hat bullshit I ever read.
>>939522549Which part is wrong, or are you here to shill the usual psyop that's "just give up, check out and don't participate in society. Let others take your place?
>>939522627All of it. It's the usual generalizing bullshit every loser uses to explain his own fucking failure. "Women are like this or that." "The MAN is fucking with us." "It's the corporations, man."No, fucker. It's you, and you alone. Making a statement like 'Every women is a whore' is inherently false. Have you tried all of them? Every single one? No? Then you are just projecting your bad experiences.The difference between a man and a fucking faggot is, that the former, if wants something, finds a fucking way to get it. If it's a loyal, loving woman, then that. Is it hard? Are those women hard to get? Yep, damn right. So up your fucking game, because you are whining that the ultimate prize is not given to you because by your ideals, you 'deserve it'. No you don't.And if you come with alphas, genes, and shit like that, you are pathetic. However fucked up you are, you are standing at in end of the line of hundreds, if not thousand of men, your ancestors, who gave you these genes. AND EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ONE OF THEM managed to get a woman pregnant at some point. And you disgrace all of them.Evolution is a race, you want to play, you have to get into it. Or you can stay at the sideline, blame everybody else on it being unfair, and rightly die out.
>>939492476>>939498244Tits or GTFO
>>939505710>whyte nighting>not all wymnAll women are hypergamous, modern society rewards this behaviour.In this past this behaviour was corrected by the natural resilts of more momen dieing barren and alone. This same cause and effect relationship is playing out now. Your neices have a higher chance of living the described cycle as they do marrying and having a stable family life.Kys fast.
>>939522715>nooo, don't complain about the system working against you. Work hard and you may receive a reward.I know what you are.I don't live in western country but this thing is coming to us too as we are getting high enough GDP, the next generations of men will be able to afford all kind of distractions that will allow them to forget about their problems.>Evolution is a raceYou are goddamn right, it's race with NO rules. Why are you convincing men to play by made up rules that don't benefit them?Your own comment suggests that if the rules don't work for you, you must break them (just like your ancestors did).
>>939522838Yep, here it is again. All women are like this and that. All men are pigs. Every democrat is a child molester. Every republican is a nazi.There is only one generalization that is too: all who say shit like that, are pathetic faggots.
>>939522894So break them, if you strong enough. Play by them, if you are clever or cunning enough to find the loopholes to make it work. Or you can also say, that you don't want that prize, and better of without it. This last one is equal to dying out, but who cares, do what you want.But what most faggots do is, they want the prize, but instead of looking for a way, or giving up, they whine and expect the rules to change in such a favour that they get the prize they 'deserve'. No, it won't. So either do something about it, or quit.
>>939522929Do you understand what changing the rules means?
>>939518737How can sex run dry if you make her cum every day? Like, sure, marriage might be shit in other ways, but thats not op's problem.
>>939522961They won't change. That's the bottom line. You can blame the elite all you want.In essence, every rule can be broken. Can you break the law? Fuck kids? Kill people? Sure. But society will be after you, and unless you can lead a revolution to change the laws, or be an unkillable superhuman who can take on police and army singlehandedly, ultimately you are bound to the rules of society.You might be the unique faggot who at some point somehow leads a revolution that changes all the rules, but let's be real: fat fucking chance of that.And most men do want women, children, family, etc, so they don't want to quit the game either.That leaves us with one thing: if you want something, and you are not strong enough to change all the rules, and you don't want to stand up and leave the table, then you'll play.The only way to win then, is to know the rules, be better better and claim, carve, what you want. Or you can sit at the table, whining, blaming the rules, other players, etc, and getting shit.And it was like that since the beginning of time, I don't know your ancestral line, but mine sure as hell did not have any revolutionaries in it, so all my ancestors played by the rules of the society they lived in, and managed to start a family, or at least get a woman pregnant. Such is life.
>>939522837Don't have any, sorry :( you can have my cock tho
>>939492150>Anyone want to guess the reason the reason I'm in my 4th divorce? Western women are fucking awful.You have been through 4 divorces and you are blaming the woman? Ever take a look in the mirror? Not saying they are innocent but dude, you haven't learned from any of the divorces? What a fucking loser...>Guess I'm not cool enough anymore lol.You were never cool>I was on my first deployment (submarine navy)KEK! Did Tyrone plow everyone of your ex wives!>I rescued some chick from her bad decisionsYou are a cuck.>3rd divorce- repeat number 2.>4th divorce- repeat number 3.Total loser>>939492476This.
>>939522915>javascript:quote('939522915');cuck
>>939523025And where did I say that men should just whine about it? As I said, no crying.It's important for men to realize that women have become the most important tool for political control and stop falling for "alpha" male bullshit that's so popular and it serves only as tool to point their anger towards women.They should play by the rules until there are enough men willing to break them, then they should know who the target is (it's not women). The more people know that the rules are rigged the higher the chance that someone fill flip the table over knowing that the others will defend him.BTW, few hundred years ago my ancestors replaced bunch of men who played by the rules.
>>939492150>I've been divorced 4 times>Here's my advice on relationshipsGreat ! I've just finished my economics lesson by a 20-something beggar with tats on his face, I have some time to learn new things now.
>>939523227Yeah, but you write it down like "the elite" is doing this big fucking social experiment where they brainwash women with the agenda of controlling men...My friend, that's utter fucking bullshit. The task you described is infinitely complex and gigantic, I cannot imagine any group of people capable of doing it, and also nobody in that group exposing that. Most tinfoil hat bullshit like this fail at this very point: there are no groups staying completely closed over longer period of time, every shit, every secret gets exposed very quickly, because that is human nature.The atomic bomb programs were prime examples, there were extreme measures taken and full force of the government to keep them secret, yet all programs had spies in them.Every society since the dawn of manking had some groups in it that benefited from the rules and some that were hurt by them. So there is a consant struggle from members to shift those rules. It's not done by the "elites". It's down by everyone.In the past, there were matriarchal societies, partiarchal societies, western societies for a long time were in favour of men, now not so much. Still have to deal with it.
>>939506349>Most upvoted comments on a reddit post>normal woman>average>rule of thumbYou need to get off the internet ASAP, it's fucking up your brain and your life.
>>939523478>Yeah, but you write it down like "the elite" is doing this big fucking social experiment where they brainwash women with the agenda of controlling men...Is all the the propaganda done by corporations (this includes media) something organic instead of highly organized and targeted effort? You mean corpos and governments (both ruled by men, one just extension of the other) do it just because they love women very much and are concerned about their well being?Is it not true that in every country with financial equality and propaganda that ensures women "empowerment", birth rates fall below replacement level? Aren't those very countries importing men who will not play by those rules and build their communities within the country while the government turns a blind eye?The task is not complex at all, all it takes is high GDP per capita. The task will be gigantic and complex in poor country where men are neither educated enough to gaslight themselves or rich enough to ignore the problem by finding some hobbies that let them escape the real world.You are full of shit and you know that you are here only to shill and divert.
>>939523689Have you heard of Occam's razor? What is more likely:- All these corporations, governments and elites being evil and doing a big fucking scheme of ruining the very society they live in and part of by making women whores.- After binding women into being tradwives, where they were beaten, had to give birth to seven kids, work all day all night to provide for a family of 9-10 people, and did not even get a fucking vote now enjoy free will and guess what, they decided not to do above.My grandmother was a mother of 9 children, of which only 6 made it past infancy, and believe me, she had a hard fucking life and told all his 6 daughters to crave for something better.I got 2 daughters and I'd rather see them happy with another women, alone, or with a single child, rather than to live in the society where I have to hand them off to some fucking incel who thinks he deserves a wife just because he was born a man.
>>939492150Larp faggot
>>939492150>have a taste for damaged whores who want to be rescued>they turn out to be damaged whores>sex is the only thing of value in the relationship40 here on my first marriage, no idea where you went wrong. you've clearly done everything right
>>939523786have you heard of POSIWID? I don't care about their or your intentions, I can see the results.We very fast went from "it's evolution" to "appeal to emotion" argument, why so? Matters not, you are creating beautiful world for your imaginary daughters.
>>939492150Engineer right? You've stated the Root Cause. First Girl Passed On...No other will work. Resolve. Pile capital, find small stuffed you item that best represents her. Go travel the world. Talk to her anyway. That's the only solution you'll accept. Everything else will simply be misery.Scientist: Multiple runs are built into the system. We've proven it.
>>939524013Ok. I'm 40 and I have everything I wanted to have by this age, including a wife and two daughters. By my own standards I am successful and I am where I wanted to be at this age.Despite the evil machinations of the elites, and me being a short, acne ridden faggot. And I'll do everything to make my daughters recognize bullshit spewing incels like you and give them a wide berth.
>>939524064Told you that I know what you are.I'm not even American and don't care how you decide to fuck up the country, you are importing from countries like mine to make beautiful future for your supposedly real daughters because your men are "incels".My problem is that your country will be trying to impose this shit on us too once we get rich enough.
>>939492150Bottom feeders love military guys. You're stupid, gone a lot and they can easily manipulate you with pussy cuz your job is to live permanently in a Viking ship.... you're the idiot marrying these whores, I could told you this when I was 18 and save you the trouble
>>939492150Sometimes i feel bad when reading stuff like this but then I remember that there is no way in hell all of these whores that fuck y'all over didn't have glaring red flags. Have you tried like, putting some effort in research and inspection? Not being desperately headless and diving headfirst into the first pussy that shows interest in being slightly more than a one night stand really helps.Here is the real advice: stay vigilant, stay suspicious, research her history thoroughly, probe, test her. Remember every suspicious detail, don't give her room to breathe. Anything that fucked more than 2-3 men before you is a NO GO zone save for major exceptions. But even those are a major issue compared to a virgin but i understand most of you here are beta uncs past the time where you can bag a virgin. Check her phone, if she immediately gets jittery and starts giving you a lecture on abuse and privacy, throw that whore out the window. That's the quickest and most reliable test, but mind the timing.Here you go, it's all about having 3 digit iq and not being a naive beta cuck which is a monumental challenge for western white males today I understand. 45 years on this earth and you didn't learn shit, if you didn't get this lecture on women by a 2.25x younger guy that can be your son, you'd go to grave still oblivious.
>>939492150i'm 28 now, but i get it
>>939492476Exactly.Women are tired of men with sexist outlooks like this guy. I’m not going to doubt the OP’s experience, but that jaded and sexist outlook was certainly scaring off the decent women out there.Be smart, be kind, prioritize honesty and understanding, and it’s not hard to see all of the good women out there just trying to find a decent guy that isn’t on some incel bullshit or going to lie to them for sex.
>>939492150Funny my wife use to let me throat fuck her, piss on her , and use her like a absolute cum dumpster. Once she got pregnant and had the kid she hasnt even given me a hand job. Its alright my side pieces pick up her slack during my lunches at work
>>939525040>Real advice: be paranoid, on guard 24/7, watch her every move, and submit her to bullshit tests like you're a woman yourself>Best way to be happy, I swear>I would know, I'm 20 and a halfIf you take a step back and read your own post, you may realize eventually that you're full of shit and everyone can tell.
>>939525984That's funny because everybody in your bloodline that managed to save their marriage would agree with me and not with you. >waa did you suggest to me that I should lead my wife with an irin fist and God forbid, slap her when she gives me shit? Im not a beta faggot, you are, I swearWhat's the alternative big guy, let's hear it. Or did you write that just for the sake of shitting on my take because yoi felt called out. Who cheated on you honey?this is safe space
>>939525040KEK, in my country you just live in big house with your parents even after you marry. Your mother usually takes care of all that since she is woman and knows all women bullshit she used to do to your father, the stereotype of MIL and your wife not liking each other doesn't come out of nowhere.If you don't control your woman you mother will berate you in the most cruel way possible, by calling your wife the man in the house. Women are merciless when it comes to other women.
>>939526227The amount of projecting here is wonderful. Truly impressive work.My father didn't rule the house with an iron fist. My grandfather didn't either. My great-grandfather didn't. All lifelong monogamous marriages.Just because your dad beat up your mom doesn't mean it's the cornerstone of a relationship. And the rampant paranoia about cheating says a lot more about your past relationships than mine.
>>939526938I am still with a first woman i've ever been in and she worships me like a God and is voluntarily transparent if you wanted to know so badly. I wasn't projecting at all, i gave more extreme measures since op is obviously a beta whitey surrounded by nothing ghoulish hole carriers.>My father didn't rule the house with an iron fist. My grandfather didn't either. My great-grandfather didn't. All lifelong monogamous marriages.And you know for certain your mom and grandmas didn't fuck anyone on the side? Quite the bold statement.
>>939526938How old was your mother, grandmother, grand grandmother when they married and how much guys you think they fucked before that?Did they have social media constantly give them attention and easy access to other guys? Were they constantly encouraged to be empowered women and that they deserve more?
>>939526807Sounds like eastern europe and Caucasus
>>939526938>she worships me like a Godthat didn't happen
>>939527331Cope all you want, that won't make my statement untrue.
>>939527316It is
>>939492150>Morale of this storyThe moral of this story is that OP is the exact sort of idiot who ends up in the military on a non-officer commission. Take no life advice from him. View his life choices as a cautionary tale about what happens when you surround yourself with other mid-wits, and mix in a pool of potential mid-wit mates who also make low-information choices. The sort of woman who would seek out a rank-and-file or NCO in the military--low pay, no agency, often deployed--is not the sort of woman who makes great choices. Look at OP's mates: a waitress and a headcase damsel in distress. That is not optimal mate selection. That's sticking your dick in a hole and deciding you like hanging out with it afterward. Thank you for your service
>>939492150Legit question - why would anyone listen to someone that fucked up 4 times? That makes you a dumbass that no one should ever listen to
>>939529742Married 4 times and joined US military. This dude can't make a right choice to save his life.
>>939506833No safe space for retards
>>939492476TITS OR GTFO CUNT
>>939492150>I rescued some chick from her bad decisionsGod damn you're retarded. Also why the fuck did you keep getting married after the second divorce? You just had to make things legally difficult for yourself?
>>939492150> Morale of this story is dont botherWay ahead of you. I’ve no more interest in a relationship. There’s no point in painting a bullseye on my headA dog, and a good male jerk off toy is all I want at this point.I’d rather be happy than be in a relationship
