How old were you when you realized socialism doesn't work?
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capitalism is just socialism for """rich people"""
>>944714021>whataboutism
>>944714040who are you quoting?
>>944714180Your mother.
>>944713881In my 20s after acquiring some work experience.
>>944713881I'd rather it go to my neighbor than to some asshole CEO.
>>944713881It seemed to work just fine for the banks around 07/08 when they begged for and got a massive public bailout.
>>944714508Well like the Bolshevik revolution, the banks are run by jews
>>944713881pretty old because I didn't know what it was. so maybe in my early 20's.
>>94471388112
it'll never work because there's never a benevolent leader to keep it going. leadership roles always attract the most megalomaniac people
the same age my dick became long enough to fuck your mom's butt.
>>944714978Rule 2.
>>944716255He just said he was 12 when he realized socialism didn’t work, doesn’t say anything about how old he is now
>>944713881I never thought it worked to begin with.
>>944713881>capitalism give a person what the fruit of their labor is worthExcept if you do actual hourly labor
This. >>944714021>>944714040They are right. Capitalism does not give a person what the fruit of their labor is worth. It gives the majority as little as possible and concentrates whatever is left up a chain of ever bloated parasites. The higher you go the more you have leeched off of.No one gains twelve million during a nap through hard work or merit. They get it by being a parasite. When its a choice between everyone sharing and a handful of parasites taking nearly everything the choice for everyone not benefiting from being a parasite is obvious.
>>944713881>t. picrel
>>944713881America socialized Fire, police dept. Library, schools, hospitals, GOVERNMENT. Socialized just means we all share the cost. Stop hating things just because of the lables.
>>944713881Many psyops begin with a loaded question. Notice how OP's question starts with an assumption. No, not the assumption of "socialism not working" but how he didn't define "working." What do you mean?Because while we'll all probably not move to North Korea any time soon... I mean... technically they have homes... food... families... it's not luxurious by any stretch... but it seems to be clunking along nonetheless.Similarly, many of us live in the States and we do have a healthcare system. It bleeds us dry at best and at worst it doesn't even address the root causes of our illnesses to bleed us some more on pharmaceuticals designed to treat symptoms on a long-term basis.No, I'm not making an implication that socialized healthcare is necessarily better either. I'm saying that a good psyop gets you to go straight into your feelings and a loaded question up front is a damn powerful tactic to do that.Don't let the glowies take control of your mind. You're better than that, you can think more critically than that.
>>944717771Daily reminder that under capitalism, you are perfectly entitled to become an entrepreneur and capitalist, and thus one of the """"parasites"""" (i.e. hard-working people with talent and initiative.)
>>944718583Name a functional socialist state, either contemporary or historical. I'll wait.
>>944718657Psyops are bad. Prove otherwise. I'll wait.
>>944713881Capitalism gives your boss the fruits of your labor.
>>944718638Well then you must be a self made billionaire. Good for you. You dun it.
>>944718732This and only those with a heavy slave mentality fail to notice it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9j91-18Kb4
>>944713881About 11 when our teacher explained how millions of people flee from communism to move to capitalist countries like the US.
>>944713881around the time i realised that one's ego is more important than the well being of the rest, be it socialism capitalism royalism, those who has power will only better their own life
>>944718638No, hard work means nothing.It is who, not what you know.Free market would be awesome.But a permit for a hot dog cart in NYC is $30k
>>944718657UK
>>944720602Per year!
>>944720602NYC was always socialist. Thats their secret.
>>944718732>boss provides equipment>boss provides venue>boss organizes team>the fruits of your laborIf you need the boss, his employees, his building, and his equipment to produce any fruit and then access to his connections to monetize that fruit, maybe it isn't your labor that's producing the fruit, anon.
>>944713881Longtime facebook friend who has constantly pushed socialism for last decade or more. I pointed out to her that NYC is working hard to go full socialist, 'you should move there'.She blocked me LOL.They really really want the idea of socialism, but never any part of the reality of it.Sometime in middleschool I realized socialism is a horrific way to destroy a country. I was an A+ student and understood that socilalism's primary function is to strip and abuse the intllegent and skilled to give handouts to the disabled, morons, and lazy.Then we have the horrors of the capitalism we have which has worked hard to make sure it is in control of its own regulation (rich get richer exploiting wage-slave labor), instead of an externally regulated capitalism where the regulating government isn't getting massive kickbacks to rape the voting taxpaying citizens.
>>944720797Bull shit corporate lobbies represent capitalist scum trying to prevent competition.
>>94471388122, around the time a lot of my old friends started identifying as mentally ill or disabled. I observed that people, regardless of intelligence, are generally self-interested rational actors that follow material incentives. If the rule is set that "from each according to his ability and to each according to his need," there is a material incentive to find oneself unable and in need. Only in a world where each person is responsible for carrying their own weight will they work and, in pursuing their own material self interest, contribute to the collective wellbeing.
>>944721225Golly. You mean groups of people act in their own self interest? Color me shocked.Still not fucking moving to any communist country. But you're welcome to give it a try.
>>944713881It works fine boomer. And when you die we're going to implement it.
>>944720855Fruit of the poison tree called greed.8 billion on planet.1 Earth GDP share would be $64k per year per person..Mammon to earn without ones personal sweat or labor equals an eternity in hell.1trillion equals $15k per every US Citizen
>>944721413>Mammon to earn without ones personal sweat or labor equals an eternity in hell.You mean the jewish forever lava according to the rules for thee but not for "God's chosen schizophrenics?"L. O. Fucking. L.
>>944721350Not communist Marx, Lenin, Stalin.Communist Earth 1 of 8 billion.11 Billion arable hectares charge lease shared profit with all.
>>944721401Millennial here; no we won’t.
>>944721578>shared profit with all.>Not communistOk retard.
>>944713881Decentralized capitalism is the only correct option
>>944721576God is the all consuming fire.Hebrew! Jew was but one tribe usurped 2000 years ago by descendants of Cain. Read Revelation 2:9 you nazi fool. Know thy enemy willfully ignorant tyrant.
>>944720855And what's that worth without the people to run the equipment? The boss isn't necessarily skilled in any way.
>>944721731>you're a NaziIsrael surpassed their evil long ago.
>>944721644Community not communist. Earthling.Share. Greed? Burn.Lable's used to enslave others is what you offer.
>>944721834I am not from Israel. Nor am I Jewish.We all need to share the Earth.It won't happen but you should be ashamed if you think Walmart paying minimum wage is acceptable, or a Land lord owning 77 single family homes is right.
>>944721780>And what's that worth without the people to run the equipment?Good and fair question. Opportunity has value. Through his equipment and other things, he provides opportunity. You take opportunity, because without his equipment etc. your labor is worthless but without your labor, his equipment is still the means of production.
>>944722051Lanlord requires 3x rent to be earned. Minimum wages should be 3x rent.40 hours should equal food, clothing, shelter, continuing education.1 Trillionaire Musk905 American BillionairesShould not exist.24 million millionaires should be taxed fairly..
>>944722245>should should should should shouldwell lucky for the billionaires that you don't get to make those kinds of decisions, amirite? We all have ideas about how things should be, son. Maybe you'll want to go into politics.
>>944722625Considered, decided to work for a living.Prefer to avoid hell.
>>944720855>The boss has the most money and property from the start so its only fair you give them nearly all of the value you earn.No. Outside of what it takes to maintain the company that is a laughably stupid idea. Its the kind of thing fit only to be said by a fool raised to be a slave for life or one seeking to profit from slaves.
>>944721165New York is a hellhole and socialism won't change that. I might block you too if you seriously told me to go live in what is possibly the worst possible state in the USA to live in.
>>944713881Socialism works, though. Why are you saying incorrect things?
>>944720855>boss provides equipment>boss provides venue>boss organizes teamWhat if we shot the boss in the head and seized possession of the equipment and venue?
>>944727653I'm not a fan of socialism, to preface this, but OP's brain is poisoned by late stage capitalism.
>>9447138812 years old, when my brother was born!
>>94471388123Had a leftism outbreak for a year before my mom told my neeting ass that I need to get my shit togetherAfter I stopped caring about random shit I saw that expecting others to care was never gonna work
>>944727671Then you'd likely fail to keep the business going
