What are the chances that Trump will actually do it? Are you betting on it?
I think he's too pussy to
>>944811225100%. He's that stupid, and so are you. He'll cement the terms "Dumbfuckistan" and "Amerimutts" into the collective memory of generations to come. Pic related.
>>944811225Nobodys invading Greenland, just stop/thread
The US needs Greenland, so that Trump can have his Golden Dome to protect the US.Like anyone cares about if the US gets nuked
>>944811225Totally, he'll break the NATO as the Russian plant he is.
>>944811225Trump is going to demand that Denmark blocks any efforts at independence and block Chinese presence/investment on the island. Denmark is already sending troops there because Trump told them to do it.
>>944811225Hope so, I hope he goes full dictator so these retards can go "I told you so" as we help round them up for extermination.
If I were Denmark, I would withdraw all my diplomats and nationalize all US companies and private property in Denmark and prevent bank transfers to and from the US.All US patents would be revoked and I would invite the world to produce in my country as they see fit.The Danes dont need oil and gas for heating or power since they were smart enough in the past to get over that, they dont give a shit about the new third world.That may not stop Ronald Fat McDonald, but his think tanks will make him understand what that means.Europe is the worlds largest and most affluent consumer market with over 500 million people.Even all the online services are based here, and the employees are from here.In principle, all you have to do is blow up the submarine cables.If they all turn their backs on the US, its goodbye US economy.And China has no problem becoming the new full spec supplier.With a heavy heart, I would have shot down Ukraine long ago to avoid becoming vulnerable to blackmail.And I would have withdrawn our aid organizations from the Middle East.Let Netanyahu take in a few Palestinians.
>>944811225He'll try and it'll be the nail in the coffin for the American empire. Any US servicemen stationed in NATO countries are about to have a very bad time.The good news is, once the ripple effect makes even the Americans currently able to afford 2 new SUVs, a pool and regular restaurant dining very suddenly dirt poor, then the resistance will grow. It'll never grow with blue haired septum pierced cringelords being the loudest.
>>944811225He's getting it. Either by way of diplomacy and purchase, which is most likely, or as you said, conquest if necessary.When you consider strategic value in terms of both defense and trade, it's very important that the us maintains influence over Greenland and not russia or china. So he's going to have it one way or another
>>944812035>like europe wont just fold to americas demandsHahahahaha why do you fucking idiots think the pussies afraid to send troops to the ukraine unless america backs them are suddenly going to grow balls in the face of their handler?
>>944812033fuck China.
>>944811225Vlad one day is like "Ahhh Donnie, You should invade Greenland, get all the resources and we will buy from you in secret and you can make money, the Art of the deal."Trump replies "You are speaking my language, you are a great guy, I should know because I know about great guys like Jeff. I will invade them in 2026."Trump invades Greenland, NATO is called for article 5 to defend Greenland, 1.7m European NATO troops vs 1.2m American Troops have a war.Trump cries "Why are you attacking us? we are supposed to be allies!"NATO loses US as member, US loses trade partnerships with European nations. US corporations set up European HQs to continue to trade there.US Economy falters heavily, China becomes trade partners with European nations, both the Yuan and Euro get greater shares of the World's reserve.Prices escalate in US, riots everywhere, Trump ousted. US turtle up to recover. China and Russia hit Taiwan and a few other Asian nations.Putin and Jinping laugh their heads of clink champagne glasses.. "All went according to plan Comrade" says Putin, Jinping winks.
>>944812035>Any US servicemen stationed in NATO countries are about to have a very bad time.The US is NATO. The only two countries that met the defense spending for NATO before trump were the US and I think poland? Since trump got in, he made them all increase spending to 5%, and more of them actually met the bar.The reason why these european countries have all this money to spend on their shitty social programs is because they don't have to spend it on the military because the US is doing it for them
>>944812119>leaving the NATO and stopping all trade with the EU it's a priority for the USwelp
>>944812290The US isn't NATO, the US has 39% of the NATO forces. Your military budget does NOT go to NATO like most yanks think, it's your own spending on your own forces.You spend $700m a year for the $5bn NATO needs to operate on, and from it you get billions in sales to other members for Jets, Arms, etc.This fantasy wetdream you lot have thinking you pay for everything is fictional. You all need to read up on shit.
>>944812295Not gonna happen, greenland isnt a major player in anything except location. Its literally just strategic and europe would fold wothout the US.
>>944812295>leaving the NATOThe us is NATO. The US leaves, NATO is effectively done. >stopping all trade with the EUWe're too big a trade partner for europe for that to realistically happen, but that's not even the goal with greenland regardless. The arctic region is going to start being more clear for ships to travel through in the future, and greenland is crucial for both intercepting attacks from russia and/or china etc and bottlenecking trade if need be from hostile countries
>>944812392>you lotIn 2024 the us contributed 16% of its common funds, more than any other country. The US still spends more on or for NATO than any other country and many combined. Your "gotcha" isnt what you believe it to be.
>>944812392>the US has 39% of the NATO forcesRemove those and NATO is done. Do you really think almost half of your military disappearing isn't absolutely catastrophic lmao?
Just be warned, Greenland have stated multiple times that they will shoot first and ask questions later if the yanks do invade... American soldiers are going to be dropped left, right and center.This is going to be the biggest fuckup in American history and the orange clown will spend the rest of his term with the blood of American soldiers on his hands.And you all do realize that everything he's doing now is all just to distract everyone from the Epstein files right?
>>944812497I just told you in my post that the US spend $700m of the $5bn it needs to run, which it gets billions back in sales to members.Can't you read? And it is 14.5%.The rest pay the other $4.3bn so not "combined".Behave yourself and go read up the information. Jesus christ.
>>944812524Because 61% can't get larger without the US? I didn't include the reserve forces in most of the members nations either. Finland alone has 400k waiting in the wings."half of your military"? You don't get what NATO is do you. It's an agreement with members to defend any that is attacked. The only nation who called for Article 5 was the US for 9/11 which NATO members did help with.
>>944812575Nigger the common expenditure is for NATO infrastructure, it is seperate from the defense spending of the host country, i get what you are saying but the US literally spends more on NATO (regardless of its direct or indirect capabilities) by a large fucking margin, kiss my grits faggit, it takes 2 seconds to google it and find that you are wrong.Heres some statistics about the overwhelming amount of defense the US pays for in a neat little graph for you https://www.statista.com/statistics/584035/defense-expenditures-of-nato-countries/?srsltid=AfmBOorVf7GtFVxZqUmYufoYP4t9u4yY9XOnR1sGJho3Pndf_8sOmrbW
>>944812919>greenland is not even on the list yetGood, time for it to pony up, land does just fine.
>>944812919Defense spending does NOT go to NATO, never has and never will. It is your own budget for your own nation's forces. The US spends money to McDonnell Douglas etc to make Jets, Ammo, Armor etc.Again that near $1trn a year the US spends on it's military it does not go near NATO. The only amount of money that the US pays to NATO is the $700m for NATO's operating costs out of the $5bn it needs.
>>944812919https://www.nato.int/en/what-we-do/introduction-to-nato/funding-natoThat is what it needs to run. Once again I can't clarify it enough, your military budget does not go to NATO at any time.Everything on that graph you pictured, is each nation's own military budget on their own forces, NATO does not get 1 penny of it.
>>944812181china is a very reliable trade partner; personally, I would have established more partnerships long ago.
>>944813401Keep tryinghttps://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/nato-spending-by-country
>>944813401>>944813515To add to>>944813545This is a percentage of spending based on GDP, the us has a higher GDP than any other NATO country, if the % is based on its GDP and the US does 3% of its GDP that 3% is worth more than the 3% from estonia. Pretty simple concepts here.
>>944811225Yes He will,He thinks "hueh hueh nice reeesauces for muh grubs for uhmericunt emoconics.Erkic wihl havb lotta muhnny erri1 love meh more for 3 more terms"When in fact he will piss off everyone, because noone will want to work there to exploit the resources, if he really thinks that the fossil fuels and all the stuff that's hidden deep under ice will solve any problems, than boy prepare for a wild ride. At this stage anyone who believes that the recipes of yesterday will solve the problems of tomorrow, well then Americans just get what they deserve and I truly feel sorry for you all.
>>944813627Another lefty take nobody is listening to or cares about.
>>944811225why would we invade a place we already have a military base at?
>>944813545Did you goto the url I posted and goto Direct Funding section?Your military budget does NOT go to NATO. If it did how would you pay the corporations who manufacture your weapons, who would pay your soldiers, who would pay the bases you operate on foreign soil?Exactly.. it doesn't go to NATO, not one member's military budget goes to it. Only the operating costs which total according to this year $5.6bn. That is the only money that goes to NATO.Your military spending has to meet a threshold to stay a member, and yes NATO was too relaxed with other members, with Germany and UK helping out balance the books so to speak with the European members.Again, so you understand.. The US does not pay NATO nearly $1trn.
>>944813609Your military spending is your own money for your own forces, NATO doesn't touch it. Which part of that do you not understand?
>>944812776EU faggots never wanted to pay for their own military and it's been terrible for our national debt. We should have left it decades ago.
>>944813690You don't subsidize any nation's military or welfare etc, no idea who pushed that lie onto American's heads. But it isn't true.You only pay for your own military, none of your budget goes to any other nation.
>>944813607Sadly that information is a bit outdated, Russia has a lot more military than that. They have a combined total of 3.7m troops ready. You wonder why they aren't in Ukraine? Would leave Russia weakened, and not worth losing your best troops in a war with a neighbouring nation.
>>944813609anon is right the us only spends ~$750 million to nato. our military budget is for us alone and we overspend on it because we are making manufacturers richer for nothing, this is why we have f-35s sitting about doing nothing as we over manufacture in the hopes we sell it to our allies
>>944813879Russia is a bit of a mixed bag. No one knows how much gear has been blown up during Ukraine
>>944813653To send a message that if we want it, we take it. No country is safe. If you have something we want, we will get it if for no other reason because we have the biggest guns and bombs and are more than keen to make some new widows.
>>944813746>USA provides most of NATO forces>HURR DURR THAT'S NOT REAL SCHIZO
>>944814879Yeah that sure will help the US economy.
>>944814879My point is we effectively have it. All we have to do is ask if they want to be incorporated like PR and give them some benefits. Invasion isn't necessary in a place where you already have a mil base
>>944811225after the Venezuela inside-trading affairTrump bets wont be paid any more...anything to distract from the Epstein fallout
Right now, the US has Pituffik Space Base in Greenland.After any US invasion, it'll have to be renamed Fuckitup.
>>944811225The petrodollar and the US economy as a whole are the real reason.>Greenland has abundant rare earth minerals/oil.US wants to take it as they're reliant on Chinese REMs for various tech implementation, however consider China their main rival for global hegemony. They wish to decouple that trade relationship, while "defending" Greenland from Chinese exploitation.>Venezuela was the oil reserves, but also their bypassing of USD as an oil trade currency.New regime will be entirely reliant on US corporations and the petrodollar, otherwise the new regime will also become "narco terrorists". Were also sending 95% of their current oil production to China; no more obviously.>Taiwan is vital for microchip manufacturing/essentially propping up the AI bubbleUS can't politically take it themselves, but has pledged complete war against China to avoid losing the chip supply as their domestic market cannot provide for Taiwans potential lossI say this genuinely, we are staring down another great depression, and Trump's actions come from desperation.All logic says that there is no benefit to violating NATO just for the hope of some REMs, but these decisions are not the product of logic.Not with this regime, not with this economic outlook. This is hail mary territory.
some maga chud please explain to me why a greenlander would want to be american? its a downgrade in every aspect of their lives.im sure they TOTALLY want to start paying 1000 dollars a month for shitty healthcare you fucking retarded niggers.
We already have full access to greenland. We don't "need" it. This is just some delusional nonsense.The real reason? Look up the techbros and their freedom city-state garbage. Thiel and others are whispering into TACO's ear.These absolute subhumans watched every 80s dystopian future movie and took the exact incorrect message from them. FUCK THEM and fuck you. They'll be against the wall eventually and so will you chuds who brainlessly support them.
>>944812485>WeNigger who are you?LMAO
>>944824062hi it's the long line of dusky foreigners lining outside your mother's "work-from-home" arrangement
>>944811225No. His goal is to force Denmark and/or NATO to assume defense control over it. He's done this already with NATO defense spending as well as aid to Ukraine. If he did act militarily that would ed NATO. That said, I think Denmark will call his bluff. Ultimately, NATO will step in.
>>944811225He can't possibly do that. Even he's not that stupid.
