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No spergy so far? We may have a few more hours of peace yet.
these themes are retarded
>>944977197i wouldnt call myself a fan, its more like stockholm syndrome at this point
>>944977245This guy still talks to the Collective
>>944977088Thanks for baking!>>944977001Oddly enough, this one was much tougher than expected, and the white hairband doesn't even gen lol. This is the best result after a couple of tries, hope you like it! :)>>944977059I might share them here and there on the thread, but those Morrigan gens are probably some of my overall favorites xP>>944977139Either enthusiasm or a mix of sheepishness and tenderness. At least that's my take on onee-shota/loli!
>>944977276I don’t get it but the way you worded it makes it sound funny
inb4 shitty bing gens of frogs and darth vader
>>944977247I've been genning her for years now. Definitely a favorite to work with.
>>944977291https://youtu.be/LkFqIOKtV9U
>>944977266I doubt most old school fans play in this age, we just enjoy the old format and much more the monsters girls like the charmers, and such
>>944977366i was enjoying genesis for a whole week then they put last turn to 100 points :/
>>944977283Fuckkkk this is incredible not the same anon but could I request 2b and 2p with really big asses bumping their hips together
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>>944977400God what gorgeous kitty tits
>>944977298unsurprising that the bing faggot also believes in global warming lmao.
>>944977308My first gen of her was like 20 minutes ago! Thanks for the inspiration. She's a treat to try to get looking just right.
>>944977283Sweet can’t wait to see em spread out thru the thread also heavily agree on the shota stuff especially when the onee is like guiding them through the whole situation
Here's the requested Lilith!>>944977404I could give that a shot! It's just the two of them, right?
>>944977418>BROUGHT TO YOU BY GOODYEARNOW FOR A WORD BY OUR SPONSORS
>>944977291>>944977426Let's say, hypothetically, that global warming is a real and present threat. The solution is to require all residential roofs be painted white and roadways be painted gray.Problem solved.Questions?
>>944977283Tysm this came out amazing think you could have 2p sucking off and giving handjobs to a bunch of shotas at once
>>944977388Nice
>>944977442Yeah just the two girls if the gen doesn’t come out well then just dealers choice of the two doing something sexual would be fine
>>944977428Yeah she's a good test for environmental prompts since she requires unusual details that aren't super specific.
>>944977442Holy shit it’s peak really great pose you picked out can’t ever get enough of Lillith
>>944977516Got anymore gens of her with an ass focus?
>>944977283this is peakplease keep going <3
>>944977481>Questions?Why is it called "a bra" when there are two cups but "a pair of panties" when there's only one?
>>944977516yummy <3
>>944977542I know it's you asshole beggar. Here she is being cosplayed by another character. Enjoy.
>>944977516she a vtuber or from an anime or something?
>>944977439Here's the other Lilith I had made recently.To me it depends on enthusiasm. If the shota is shy, he definitely should be guided. But if he's excitable, I'd say the onee really just needs to share the enthusiasm and doesn't have to actively guide him. Just my 2 cents xP>>944977483Hm... I could try, would probably be POV/faceless shotas tho. That good with you anon?>>944977510Just making sure before I genned the prompt :)>>944977528Then I guess this one's for you too xP>>944977549Thanks anon, threesomes are tricky, so I'll take it slow with that one xP
>>944977590I didn’t say asshole at all lol I just like fat asses but the piercings r really neat
>>944977088To boldly nut where no man has nutted before.
>>944977605Faceless is fine with me ty kind genner
>>944977557This is some fucking 90s OVA kino. Reminds me of Angel Cop.
>>944977510Would have loved it if they were both looking back, but... honestly kinda like how it looks like they might be gossiping xP>>944977634Alright, I'll see what I can do!
any cookie genners ?
>>944977605Lillith nation is eating well tonight
>>944977647Not bad honestly I’m kinda into it
>>944977609I can do ass then. Enjoy.
>>944977666They’re totally gossiping and not caring about the fact they’re naked lol but this gen came out great I love the shape of their butts
>>944977675Ironic considering Morrigan's the one who gets me down bad xP
>>944977666It’s simply so peak… more of this duo please, dealers choice
>>944977666>>944977725butthole please>>944977722yummy
>>944977722
>>944977730Honestly Lillith and Morrigan could get it I love it when it’s both of them but I lean towards Lillith cos I think cute girls with fat butts are awesome but I still find Morrigan way sexy
>>944977747Really cute pose love how she looks embarrassed
>>944977670Rei says:>Om nom nom! C is for cookie, that's good enough for me!
>>944977557Dammit Jim I'm a man not a dictionary
>>944977745Dukat is a hero.Fuck, Garak and Dukat are both phenomenal. If you wanted me to dislike Cardassians you fucking retarded failed.
>>944977780Really cute gen actually I like this
>>944977794Need to be smothered in those
>>944977747<3
>>944977726Thank you! Yeah my main focus was that their asses looked good and that they were touching lol xP>>944977738I might have a pose you might like... Let me do the 2P bukkake first lol>>944977763That's fine, just slightly different tastes lol. Both girls are pretty! I just have a weakness for green-haired girls xP And blondes too lol
>>944977794Busty shark, very nice.
>>944977780this is the best i could ask for
>>944977843i'd like a paizuri by both the flat chest and the big ol heckin boobers shark at the same time
>>944977865butthole please
>>944977773The ZZZ style makes expressions really impactful. They hit the sweet spot in facial definition versus anime flatness.
>>944977838Fuck this Morrigan is sexy need more of her
whats up with the faggot op and his hylic crap again? I thought we got past the sperg shit?
>>944977865Best I can do currently.
>>944977950can you do a zombie girl getting fucked?
>>944977483Took me a bit, but I got it! Hope you like it anon :)>>944977917>SexyAnd cute, deadly combo for the best demon girl lol
>>944977838Totally fair and I get you on that green hair its totally cute and blondes are way good too those samus posts you made were great
>>944977966what did you tag for the bite marks? i can never get them to work
>>944977977Came out perfect tysm :) also the dick going up her ass is an awesome bonus
>>944977971Do you have an idea for a prompt to generate the init image for that?
>>944977964because if you try to change it or even mention it the schizo loses his crap and destroys the thread
>>944977977Oh shit this is peak can’t wait to see what that mystery pose is
>>944978028no all my zombie girls are standalone
did kermit come back just for my bday? :D
>>944978028
>>944977600God I wana fuck this SMUG cat's tits to bad
>>944977999Literally just bite _marks. I usually group them with the location in parentheses too.
>>944977969Cool!
>>944977977Could I request Cynthia from Pokémon in a cow bikini with like really fat tits selling milk in public
>>944978093I think I’ve died and gone to shark girl heaven
>>944978089ive tried that and still none:/ the models i use probably have no reference for it
>>944978078is it actually? if so, happy birthday! <3
>>944978093>>944978026butthole please
>>944977966Incredible duo wish it came out closer to what the original requester had in mind but this is still an awesome effort
>>944978131bare butt please :(
>>944978078no they have been very active recently, with their classic 16 hours a day schizo sperg slop in every thread. For some fucking reason they are hyper obsessed at the moment to make sure they are always OP simply so they can keep the word "hylic" in it for some retarded reason
>>944978093Such thickness, but I must protest -- where is her tail?!
>>944977516>>944977298I've had a beautiful and terrible idea.
>>944978172This is a neat style is she from something or original
>>944978160Interesting, is there a Lora for nude model sketch class?
>>944978177I need her to force choke me while she makes me her plaything
I have been here since late 2022. I hate beanbaby so much. His most egregious offense. He generates what I believe is "purposefully ugly." I genuinely don't understand why ye believes his gens are pretty.
>>944978078Men are not born, they are made. I hope you find the source of your own creation which outweighs even the passage of time.
>>944977557more of her please
>>944978153I'm just not able to make a new Gen like that currently. Complex stuff requires my local system and I'm not home.
>>944977988Always happy to try and gen something, so long as its within my skillset xP>>944978020>the dick going up her ass is an awesome bonusHonestly I was half-considering redoing it, but felt it was harmless xP. Glad to know you liked it :)>>944978061Referencing the classic Mai x Chun-Li pose lolI don't know why they're not the same size tho... That pose is a little iffy sometimes>>944978105As much as I adore Cynthia, I don't like genning her because the eye never comes out right. x/It's not even that the eye comes a different color, it comes out weird and unflattering. Don't think I'll be taking this request, sorry anon x/
>>944978158It will never change back. All hylics have been outed indefinitely.
>>944977977could you do a flatchest titjob with the character Rukia from Bleach
>>944978195we get it kermit, you're a stupid cunt and we all hate you, fuck off
>>944977999>>944977865>>944977600This cat is BUILT for sex
>>944978265Oh shit they’re kissing this is amazing keep em coming please
>>944978155
>>944978265Aww poop well that’s alright how about a different pokegirl or your choice?
>>944978133thanks soft <3 how are you?>>944978158ah lol. its such a strange esoteric insult but i say let him have it because 99% of people dont know or care what it means>>944978214oh we doin vidgens now hell yeah
>>944978352This butt is to die for
>>944978177Totally her vibe. Her whole character is pragmatist energy expenditure, won't do anything unless she can get it done fast and efficiently. Everyone wants her because she's aloof, cool, and good at everything, but she blows everything off. She's also a "maid" that offers housekeeping services as a guise for clandestine affairs like assassination and heists.
>>9449782652b AND 2p in one post? ZZZ girls? Pink haired catgirls? Oh yeah this thread is peak
>>944978186I didn't use it if there is. Just straight prompting.
>>944978158not to mention the beyond insane obsession with Mr. B he has that borders on not just psychotic but terrifying
>>944978172hot gen
>>944978377I think you would like Hyouka just because the mc is sorta like this and also cos the writing and animation is super good Kyoani can do no wrong
>>944978391Is this supposed to be Toradora?
>>944978285I... Have never done that, but I can give it a shot. /ss/ or just regular lol?>>944978306Not sure what other pose to do lol>>944978331Yeah if the eye wasn't screwing me over every time, I'd find excuses to do Cynthia gens lolWhitney work for you? She feels like the most fitting, considering the cow-theme lol>>944978385Glad you're liking the thread anon! :D And I definitely get the excitement, especially for ZZZ girls xP
>>944978131Perfect breasts and sex-able tum-tum
>>944978394Really hot scenario
>>944978433Whitney definitely works pink haired girls rule
>>944978394The sketches are surprisingly on-point then for vanilla generation
>>944978261>>944978153>>944977966>>944977865First draft.
COMPUTER Generate exactly 75 images consistent with the contemporary 21st century definition of the phrase "low effort AI slop". Remove clothing from the images. Call the posters retarded faggots.And disengage safety protocols
>>944978429Technically Taiga Aisaka from Toradora, but yes.
>>944978433Regular please I like the contrast of big dick with small tits
>>944978433Bunny suits maybe? As for the poses not quite sure lol maybe just a simple side by side but I honestly can’t get sick of 2p and 2b
>>944978519is cute, would give both of them head pats and plaps
>>944978530I'm sorry, Dave. I can't do that.
Can someone gen Komekko as a furry cat girl having sex with a human
>>944978532Kinda into that taiga one lol think you could make a gen of her in the bunny suit from that one doujin? I think it’s just a red bunny suit
>>944977088I hate beanbaby so much. Absolutely trash human being.
>>944978494Just needed the confirmation lol!That's definitely milk on her chest, or so she claims!>>944978539Just wanted to make sure before I started prompting :)>>944978562Okay so lined up playboy bunnies? Yeah I think I can try that :)
>>944978562oooh good idea maybe them serving drinks and getting groped?
>>944978342doing well enough. want to gen but feeling unmotivated at the same time. ~.~ how are you today?also, what is hylic?>>944978370glug glug glug>>944978530kek
>>944978619Hehe it could be ANY white and thick viscous substance the gen came out great tho can’t go wrong with pokegirls ty :)
>>944978619Sweeeeet can’t wait to see the result
>>944978519Excellent. >>944978433https://youtu.be/eURuH5-boxo?si=R-ggmhWEnIMtCuh9If you are about it at all, this is her character demo. Good insight into what kind of person she is. She was the first available character on the in-game premium draw, and there was a news clip the first month or so about the cafe thugs being brutally shredded and left in a bloody pile in the garbage. Witnesses reportedly saw nothing at all.
>>944978597Sure, give me a few minutes.
>>944978619could you make this sorta pic but with haruhi fujioka from ouran high school host club and with smaller boobs?
>>944978619Hi Dunk! Glad I caught you in the thread how’s everything going tonight I see you’re baking some real good stuff today
>>944978575>>944978700It keeps wanting to replace Ellen with another Gura.
>>944978625i feel thatits a term from Gnosticism for men who do not pursue spiritual or intellectual matters. thus he is insulting ComfyUI users with the most obscure insult he could find probably lol. I imagine he has a beef with comfy for some reason lolim more interested in the word than the beef so i think its funnynever using anything but comfy, though. its the most robust. tools dont matter. i just like using it. thats all i really care about
Beanbaby, you are the ultimate worthless piece of shit. Challenge me. You won't.
>>944978762catbox?
>>944978700For the record, I'm no waifu person. I haven't any imagined attachment to the character. I just like sharks, think it's a cool concept, and her aloof voice/attitude reminds me of a past girlfriend.
>>944978539Made it POV because paizuris are much easier to gen like that in my experience!>>944978664Pokegirls are peak in all honesty. I was between Whitney and Melony, but Whitney got my choice because of Miltank lol>>944978685Assuming you're the 2B and 2P anon? Gonna get to that one next lol>>944978700I know Ellen Jane lol, I don't play ZZZ, but I do follow it from time to time! My personal favorite's Evelyn xP>>944978711I can try, not sure how successful the gen might be. Also by smaller, do you mean flat chest, or just small boobs? Makes a big difference lol>>944978750Hey Anon! :) And thank you! Slightly long weekend, but nothing awful lol. You?
>>944978625>what is hylic?>The lowest category of humans are the hylics, from hyle, “matter”, referred to above as “material”. Unlike the pneumatics, the hylics lack a spark of the Light. Unlike the psychics, the hylics are unable to choose for the true good by following the light. The hylics are understood to be material in all respects–their only concern is for food, sex, and material pleasures.It's a term coined by the founder of the Gnostic belief passed on through Irenaeus the Heretic.
>>944978539Thought I had shared this one sorry xP>>944978807Also last recent Morrigan gen I made lol
>>944978773Yeah my gura Ellen's took a lot of patience.
>>944978530>1man, solo standing, masterpiece, best quality, amazing quality, good anatomy, yellow <lora:TNGILLV1:1> yellow TNG uniform, (balding:0.5) brown hair, black room with (large yellow_line grid)>more than half the outputs are tiddypicslol, I was just trying to vaguely do Barclay, but for some reason this lora is very gender blind
I hate beanbaby so much. I hate him.
what is this day 965 of kermit/lcp crashing out over beany?
>>944978828Rukia is another favorite. Are you following me anon?!
>>944978807Oh melony would’ve been a great pic too if it were up to me and I couldn’t pic either of the two I would’ve gone Hex Maniac (boring answer I know lol), Lenora, Elesa or Skyla. My fav gen bias is definitely showing lol
>>944978871he goes by promptimus too
>>944978828Holy crap its peak she’s adorable also POV is perfect
>>944978872That was just a request from another anon xP I haven't watched Bleach, but I do love me some Yoruichi!
Are there any good ways to work out what artstyle prompt may have been used for an image, like which artists were used? I like this style from some guys Pixiv but I think he's stripped any metadata from it before uploading.
>>944978807Just smaller boobs she isn’t flat in the show so smaller works fine
>>944978888evening cookie, glad I didn't miss you entirely
>>944978807The game isn't bad, they put a lot of time into the characters and music. Some of their character demos are nuts -- the Jane interrogation episode is top tier, and the Miyabi episode is like the first episode of an anime.
>>944978316>>944978352>>944978376>>944978428delicious <3 <3
>>944978777omg he's gorgeous, more plz. I love this style!
hmm
>>944978807Doing alright Dunk! I went to visit my friend in LA yesterday just to visit and to give he and his GF their Christmas gifts but I woke up real tired cos I had to take the earliest train back to make it in time for work. Glad you’re doing alright too!
>>944978532hot canine
>>944978922Ah I see. Yoruichi is also top tier.
>>944978986I never knew how much I wanted something until I had it
>>944978955Yea I'll be on for a few mor eprobaly.
>>944978592>>944978777checked, and.. interesting. appreciate the insight.new model/style or am i just not used to seeing your furry work?? either way it's lovely.>>944978809uh-oh, am i hylic?
I don't get it beanbaby was around in 2022. He is an alcoholic who admitted to impersonating namefags. Why does he get a pass when he posts only ugly looking posts in 2026? I don't get it.
>>944978938Bocchi the goat!
>>944978986Not a furry, but I do like sharks and Ellen. Nice.
>>944979018Didn’t see the first ones lol but these are peak I haven’t seen Toradora since I was in junior high I think
I've got three different Krokobyaka Loras. Which one is the best. Prompting from the Checkpoint included for comparison.
>>944979042probably because those are straight up lies you made up, which you frequently do about every namefag you dumb freak
>>944979040Not a loliguy at all but I love this
>>944979040>>944979016>>944978807>>944978762>>944978760butthole please
>>944979016>>944979066Never enough Ellen. Good work boys.
>>944979088I've been here since 2007 namefag.
Oh hell yeah, asymmetrical docking locked in.
>>944979083Far right or far left are best.
>>944979073Yea, she was an early edition to my wildcard.
>>944979148yummy <3
>>944979040>am i hylic?Do you use Comfy?
>>944979068Am I technically a furry if I only like the porn? I don’t seek it out but there are some artists I follow on Twitter who specialize/dabble in that whom I enjoy but I’m not really into furry culture or generic fursuit art styles
>>944979164Fuuuuck that's good, prompt plox??
>>944979164This is definitely the best one so far the foreskin is a nice touch
>>944979164Well done.
>>944979014>>944979068<3>>944979040nice :3i really dont do furry that much, ive used the style before but it works well i think thanks :3>>944979083hmm the third or fourth i like more
>>944978078It's one of several personalities of the same schizo, he never leaves. You'll recognize him by his pretentious criticism of the threads.
>>944979208Think you could put her as a shark furry in a bikini at the beach and have her be embarrassed pls :3
>>944978376>>944978352>>944978316Hnnnngh such a sexy figure
ironically the thread ahs never been better since Kermit returned
>>944979167>>944979208I'm starting to like the far right too.
>>944979187in my opinion, yes you can like furry porn without being a furry. its not complicated to me. I like porn with futa in it but i dont want to be a futa
>>944978391>>944978532>>944978705Cookie love!
>>944979202This is what real love is
I hate you so much beanbaby.
>>944979218im familiar :3, im coming up on almost a year now? i think
>>944979187I'm not here to label anyone bro, I just mean I don't have an explicit interest in anthropomorphizing or due in general, and 90% of it won't strike me as good or enticing, but there are always caveats and this was one of them. I only even commented to let the furry who created the Gen know there was "cross platform" appreciation.
>>944978093omg could you redo this one but withsmall b-cups? the ass is and her look areperfect but those tits are comical :/
>>944979183Ironically I don’t think people make enough porn of Somsnosa from hylics
>>944978592in case you wanted more furry.>>944979090<3>>944979183lmao, no.
>>944978183just a random character
>>944978896Hex Maniac is hot, I'm not gonna deny that lol.I do love me some Elesa, but I don't think she'd fit the vibe of that gen lol.>>944978915Glad you like it anon :)>>944978941Just making sure, I don't know the character so I preferred getting your input!>>944978956I know Mihoyo has upped their game when it comes to demos lol. I remember I once watched all Genshin character trailers, and the leaps they've made is shocking. From Kaeya's boring trailer to something like Nefer's? Crazy!>>944978993Damn, I definitely know that struggle! But hey, at least you're home safe, right? :)>>944979012She very much is! I also know Satsuki is very popular here too lol>>944978562Okay so this was admittedly much tougher than I thought/expected lol. This was the best result after... I don't know how many tries x/
Henlo, Frens & Degens! ^_^
>>944979251The middles seem derivative and weakly aligned to the overall theme of the image. Like the details don't mesh well.
>>944979316<3>>944979344>>944979337butthole please
>>944979337Same cowgirl position but with midna looking smug if you’d be so kind
>>944978760Advice for nuubs. "Light_blue shirt" should be on your list of perma-nagatives for all Lolisho gens. Because there is an over abundance of kiddie pics in those blue kindergarden that entirely fucks up the data set for average clothing
>>944979243ill do embarrassed but this was too good>>944979299im not a furry eitheri would fuck one tho, no question lol
>>944979310True. Same aesthetic as Raven, so it is surprising. Though the game is quite niche.>>944979337You're safe then.
>>944979346They look gorgeous you’ve been killing it with this duo if I come up with a good prompt I’ll request again but for now I’m satisfied ty :)
>>944979351Agreed. The rightmost one is the newest one. I think I'll stick to it.
>>944979379This smug aura turns me on lol
>>944979374*blue kindergarden smocks
I hate you beanbaby.
>>944979382Submarines are so fucking cool. So many harrowing stories, the fucking nuts it took to be on one of these things....
>>944979445Stop hitting yourself.
early bake>>944979452>>944979452>>944979452
>>944979370
>>944979346I think ur right abt Elesa not fitting it lol she’s just one of my favs from that gen tbh tho also these gens have been fire from you this whole thread
>>944979382’Sub, Anon? Cool boats!
>>944979349Hello Horse!>944978711Here she is! Hope you like her anon!>>944979410Thank you anon! <3 Bummed I couldn't get the contrasting bunny suits, but I'll have to settle for the gen as it is lol xP
>>944978785masterpiece, best quality, good quality, simple background, green background, white border, outside border, from above, looking at viewer, loli, blue eyes, white pupils, blue hair, short hair, double-parted bangs, colored tips, pink tips, puckered lips, solo, 1girl, flat chest, black sweater, long sleeves, shoulder cutout, turtleneck sweater, sitting, yokozuwari, arm support, leaning to the sideNeg: lowres, worst quality, low quality, oldest, artist name, signature, patreon, realistic, sparkling eyes, ringed eyesModel's cocoIllustriousNoobai_v56 and a Krekkov lora I'm training. 832x1216 upscaled by 1.5x using lanczos resampling.
>>944979192>>944979201>>944979202I'm basically just throwing *booru tags I think will work well into a blender and seeing what comes out. Using FeMix_HassakuXL and a super basic ComfyUI workflow.
>>944979374what if I like blue shirts?
>>944979487How-dee, thx for milk <3
>>944979429>>944979429>>944979429
>>944979346I think the female form is the basis of all human conception of beauty.
>>944979487This gen is amazing tysm the shows really chattered towards girls so I don’t ever see much porn of Haruhi lol it’s hard being bi
>>944979530thread was already uip, beaten to the punchg much? >>944979468>>944979452>>944979452>>944979452
>>944979502Da-ba-dee, da-ba-di…
>>944979502spread her butt
>>944979468early bakes are cheating and dont count
>>944979571I didn't see it. Doesn't matter anyway.
>>944979571>>944979571>thread was already uipYou realize that thread creation time is publicly visible, right? You're sitting here like an actual literal fucking retarded ass faggot attentionwhore, screaming that your's is the one true thread... because... "BECAUSE I SAID SO". literal nigger logic
>>944979337Cute! Thanks anon
>>944977088Picard was a faggit. Give me Kirk any day.
