A new picture emerged that Petti had indeed reached for something at his waistband and pockets when shot.Petti was struggling and resisting arrest - neither could justify him being shot. However, it did continue the ongoing struggle to get him under control.Since he clearly had reached for an object, despite being told several times to comply, gives the reasonable expectation that he might have reached for a gun.He had already been disarmed, for a gun he had the right to bear, however, the agents could not possibly know how many weapons he had on his body since they already knew he was carrying one gun.So it was clearly his 2nd amendment right to have a gun on him, however, people who carry weapons need to be mindful that starting altercations while carrying might not be the best idea, even if you have the right to carry a weapon.Yes, if you suddenly reach for an object in your pockets while resisting officers trying to get you under control, that will give them a reasonable belief at the moment that use of deadly force is necessary.Case is pretty much closed now, libtards. You need to wait for your new current thing to cry about.
>>945236656im not reading all that you wordy bastard. Also wasnt he holding a phone? Could that be a phone? Dont answer if your going to send me a book to read. i didnt read in school and refuse to do it here/Your fortune: Reply hazy, try again
If he would have stayed home! He would be alive! Death by his own actions!This will be the same for all of up and coming ICE involved shootings!Message - stay the fuck home and live!But the lefties .... nuff said!
>>945236852>Could that be a phone?He was holding a phone and filming while pretending to be a traffic warden, then he seems to put his phone away for a moment while lifting up the female idiot who got pushed to the sidewalk.In essence, it is probably the same phone he reached for. But that doesn't really matter, as he was reaching for something, which gave the agent a reasonable belief it might be a weapon.When cops yell at you to lay still, that is not a moment you want to reach for things in your pocket.
>>945236656He had already been shot in that photo. Are you trying to justify the next 11-12 shots?
>>945236656Leftists really need to stop chasing ICE around the city and let them do their fucking jobs. This shit isn’t worth losing your life over.
>>945236656Your thoughts on who is at fault in this new national psyop will be directly correlated with your political beliefs. I don't care anymore, have not watched the video and will not. The Renee good shit was exhausting enough.
>>945237077So if someone goes to the store and gets killed by a reckless driver while crossing the road, it's the victim's fault? What the fuck kind of retarded logic is that?
>>945237528Already shot, so clearly he didn't pull for the object after he got shot. He did it before. Your point being?
>>945238221>So if someone goes to the store and gets killed by a reckless driver while crossing the roadIf they just stand around in the street like Pretti did, then yes, the pedestrian is at fault.
>>945238246Godzilla had a stroke trying to read this.>>945238278Vehicles are bound by law to yield to pedestrians in the USA. Maybe not where you're from.
>>945237605And the objectives of ICE aren't worth TAKING lives over. Second murder of an American citizen in under a month by under-trained, overly aggressive animals who want to play army. Stop blaming the victims. Your wannabe edgy stance from the safety of Mom's basement is why no one likes you. Instead of defending the invaders so you can feel 'like a big man', how about you defend the innocent and powerless and actually BE the big man you want everyone to think you are? Right now no normal person can see you as anything other than the sad, lonely loser you are.
Jelly much?
>>945238691I just think if you’re here illegally, you should be deported.
>>945236656
>>945238589>Vehicles are bound by law to yield to pedestriansPedestrians, yes. Pretti was jaywalking.
>>945236656>for a gun he had the right to bearPeople keep saying this like it matters. It doesn't matter if it was stolen or if he had a CCW. There is no way to know until you investigate. If he had a CCW, then he should have known the rules a little better, since that's part of getting the permit.I'm not saying one way or the other, we still need more info to make a decent judgement, but "his gun was legal" is not an argument.
>>945238589>bound by law to yield to pedestriansThis isn't an absolute law.
>>945238914I agree with you 100%, I was just stating that he had the right to have the gun on him.
>>945238867>>Vehicles are bound by law to yield to pedestrians>Pedestrians, yes. Pretti was jaywalking.Actually, Pretti was directing traffic before he was shot! You haven't seen that video yet?WTF was he doing standing in the road directing traffic? He's not authorized to do that and it's even worse than jaywalking. Not a capital offense mind you, but it doesn't support the story he was just recording with his phone and nothing else.
>>945239147But why? How does that change the argument? You're introducing bias to create an emotional response. This is a libshit strategy.
>>945239168>directing traffickek
>>945237159Is it reasonable to assume anyone is going for a gun if they happen to put their hands somewhere not immediate visible? Or just this guy because wrong time wrong skin color?
>>945239168Yes, I agree. He was doing stuff he had no business doing. And it directly led to the agents confronting the people on the road.
>>945239147>>945239220Another thing, how do we know he had a CCW?
>>945236656you're reaching for your tiny cock as you flood the board with this cringe fatass
>>945239220Absolutely not, if you actually read what I wrote I go over the fact he was allowed to have the weapon on him, however, it was an idiotic idea to start a confrontation while holding the gun. And that the shooting was justified, in part because of him having the gun.Go argue with someone who actually disagrees with you, retard.
>>945239310We don't. We don't know anything. Anyone who claims to know anything is lying, because they weren't there, they didn't know him and got all their information second-, third-, or fourth-hand
>>945239293In that situation, yes. If they quickly grab for something or make the motion to grab for something and an object is visible in their hand, there is a justified expectation that it might be a weapon.
>>945239369He wasn't holding the gun though. Having a confrontation with an officer while having a weapon holstered is warrant for execution?
>>945239449So everyone should walk around with their hands up when around police or ice if they don't want to get shot. Got it.
I'm only pretending to support ICE because I dont wanna get bullied at school for being a queermo retard.
>>945239519no you should just get shot
>>945239496- He initiated the contact himself, by exerting himself into the situation- They knew he had at least one gun- He disobeyed orders to comply, and wrestled with the agents- He quickly grabbed for something in his pocketsIdiot made a perfect storm for himself.
>>945239168That guy who ran over faggots was also directing traffic
>>945239519I'd advice you to not wrestle around with them, especially if you are carrying a gun.
>>945236656This photo was after the first shots were taken.Here's a photo from a few frames before the first shot, and a few frames after the first shot.Please take notice of how you're lying like a retard, and you never watched the video. Your whole argument relies on photos you saw that other people interpreted for you instead of just watching what happened.
>>945239519You are our only hope you must stop rumpy krumpy!
>>945239576You literally can't explain logic to these buffoons. They will never concede to their political religion, even at the cost of common sense.
>>945239618I don't care what happened.
>>945239576>He quickly grabbed for something in his pocketsDebatable. Quickly is subjective. His gun was holstered not in a pocket. This is a slippery slope.
>>945239519It helps if you're not trantifa trying to start shit with officers to protect pedos.
>>945239671They're just trying to humiliate and degrade you with absurd lies. They're not even American. Everyone pretending to care about this shit has horrible spelling and grammar and obviously hates Americans.
Lmao these rightoids got utterly cucked by dons promises. And deep down they know it. However, they are too ashamed and their fragile ego wont allow them to admit they got fooled.So now, they out here performing mental gymnastics to defend their billionaire pedophile overlords while celebrating the abuse and deaths of their own citizens
>>945238246He had that phone in his hand the ENTIRE TIME. You're just showing you didn't watch the video.
>>945239682he's dead, jim
>>945239706Can I join your side guys?! They're beating me over here in magaville!
>>945239618Who fired the first shot?
>>945239605You shouldn't wrestle with officers, period. But you also shouldn't be shot execution style by the secret police, in a country that supposedly has due process.
>>945239719He puts the phone in his pocket while helping up the idiot lady who got pushed to the curbed after blocking traffic.
>>945239694Epstein files when
>>945239755he was jewish and they're nazis so what can't you wrap your head around? Due process? Trump is KING Dictator.
>>945239783I will hold you down while Trump rapes you and there's nothing you can do about it. Resist and be shot.
>>945239783Who knows. The clowns in DC fucked that one up entirely.
>>945239783>>945239804They were released about a decade ago genius
>>945239755Yes, I agree. Howeer, that's not what happened here. Execution style means the man would have already been subdued properly and posing a threat, and then they shoot him. Pretti was begging them to shoot him.
>>945236656>balding gay leftist jew gets shot after trying to stop ICE from deporting somalis ICE just hasn't stopped handing out wins
>>945239781When did he have time to wrestle with the agents while directing traffic, helping an old lady off the street, putting his phone in his pocket, grabbing for his two guns, all while getting a sex change, drinking a pumpkin spice latte, and dilating his neovagina? Who has time to do all that?
>>945239755>execution styleYou obviously don't know what that is.
>>945239865>while directing trafficlmao, is that what you're going with? Why would he have to direct traffic?
>>945239835They disarmed him and had him on the ground and surrounded. That seems rather subdued if you ask me
>>945236656The president says gun owners should be shot on sight.
>>945239934>They disarmed himHow do you know? They said they took a gun off him after the shooting.
>>945239753The agent in the blue jeans and green police jacket in the photo, with his right hand behind the dude in the black sweater with the green vest in the photo.
>>945239948He did not say that. You are more retarded than he is.
>>945239934>They disarmed himThey had no idea how many weapons he was carrying, armchair general.
>>945239948
>>945239948Only criminals cary guns on the streets. You heard the man, people. Hide your guns, hide your knife, they're coming for em.
>>945239310what is CCW? concealed carry weapon?You can see it being removed from its holster at the back of his waist, by one of the ICE people right before he's shot. Local police reported he was allowed to carry it.
>>945239975You never see him shoot though.
>>945239934I think dead is more subdued
>>945239781He absolutely DID NOT DO THAT. Please for the love of God, just watch the video. Those agents were being recorded by him the whole time. He never even had a chance to put it away.
>>945239995Pause. Is this real!?
>>945239979You have no clue how many weapons anyone is carrying until they show you. This isn't a strong argument. Are we killing people because they might have a ankle holster or three?
>>945240001CCW usually refers to the permit itself.>Local police reported he was allowed to carry itThey said he had a permit? Local police are also resisting ICE and protecting criminals.
>>945240006You absolutely do see him shoot in several of the videos.
>>945240050no we're killing them ebcause we're nazis. CRY WOLF
>>945240083At the first shot, you can't see anything because that guy's hand is behind other dude's head.
>>945240001>allowed to carry itNot around a protest involving ice, apparently. Or near any law officer, according to many in this thread. In fact, if you're going to protest, you should be doing it on the ground with your arms behind your back with a bullet in your head.
>>945236656HOL UP IS THAT HEEB WEARING A KIPPA? DID THE BULLET GO THRU HIS HAT?1?!?!
>>945240039Yep. Tyranny is often like a slowly boiling pot. And you're the frog.
>>945240115Holy sweet fuck retard. There's an angle from the OTHER SIDE where you can see him shoot first. There's another video taken from a shop just past that, where you can see the exact same thing. Please stop licking the boot and just look online for these videos. I will start removing the audio from one so I can upload it to /b/ for you right now.
>>945240121this but unironically
>>945240158Oh well nothing I can do about it. Time for video games.
>>945239978>yfw
>>945240168>and just look online for these videosYeah, I've been looking.https://rumble.com/v74t6x0-breaking-the-ice-shooting-of-the-armed-agitator-alex-pretti-in-minnesota-to.htmlWhere do you see the first shot? Timestamp it.>I will start removing the audioWell then we can't hear the first shot, genius.
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>>945239673Yes you do, otherwise you wouldn't be lying about it.
>>945236656I love threads like this.Everyone has 10% of the information and then suddenly they know everything that happened.They say stupid shit like "I read about it." "I saw the video" or "Here's my reasoning for my statement."I'm talking to anyone with an opinion with no facts and those that are going to get baited or upset on 4chan.
>>945237077Have fun with that message in the coming elections.
>>945240252 After watching the first 10 seconds of this video, I've concluded you literally will deny the evidence of your own eyes if a guy with a gruff voice comes and tells you how to feel afterward.
>>945240409That's what leftoids said about Rittenhouse.
>>945240428Which guy?
>>945236656You know that his gun was taken away before he was shot?
>>945240282Are they going to mount that beak like a trophy?>>945240336I didn't say anything about what happened.
>>945240409Trump is a dictator there will be no more elections retard. WAKE UP!!!!
As soon as ICE is gone, it’s rape time! Remember: if you don’t let a migrant fuck your daughter, you’re a racist
>>945240520Damn our boys are good.
>>945240428>the first 10 seconds>first shot happens at 20 secondsHoly shit you're a liar.
>>945240543ICE was here 20 years ago when obama was president.
>>945240520Proof?
lol you guys are already slowing down? You shitposted a lot more when the dumb lesbian killed herself. Giving up so soon?
>>945239753The dude on the ground gettin beat and kicked had his gun removed before any shots went off, so it wasent him.
Just start the Civil War already, like you guys promised after Kirk shooting. The sooner we can shoot each other up, the sooner this bullshit can end.
>>945240829>had his gun removedProof?
>>945240578"Nurse Pretti was shot dead on Saturday by one or more US Border Patrol agents on the street during a nationwide deportation operation. According to the Department of Homeland Security, an agent fired “defensive shots” after Pretti approached with a gun and “violently resisted” being disarmed.However, video footage of the incident casts considerable doubt on this account. It shows Alex Pretti initially without any weapons in his hands, only a cell phone. This is also confirmed by eyewitnesses. However, he was carrying a weapon, which was taken from him by an officer before the shots were fired."Spiegel Online, one of the most independent news portals in the West...
>>945240038
>>945239519>So everyone should walk around with their hands up when around police or ice if they don't want to get shot. Got it.Instead of walking around with your hands up, it would be even better to stay away from the people whose job it is to detain illegal immigrants, when they are just doing their job. Nothing good can come from your being there, and obviously something bad can and did happen.I don't think Pretti should have been shot, but if he had stayed home, he wouldn't have been shot. He could have done something that might be useful, like write to his representatives about immigration law, if he thought there was something wrong with the law that needed to be changed. By the way that was a combat pistol he was carrying."Based on the photograph of the gun, Joshua Harrison, a firearms expert based in Huntington Beach, Calif., said the model appeared to be a P320 AXG Combat."
>>945240844Have you not watched any of the videos? They show an agent, while hes on the ground, remove his pistol before the first shot is even fired.
>>945240847That's not proof, that's someone's interpretation.>one of the most independent news portalsI don't know what independence has to do with it but they are left and German.
>>945240395Oh okay here let me inform you how far we have come retard.I'll make you spreadsheet.>>945240560>I never heard no exaggerations ever!How do you imagine I described exactly what happens in the first hour of the video, if I didn't watch at least that far, genius?
>>945240578I made a spreadsheet for retards.
>>945240934>Have you not watched any of the videos?This is like some retard whack-a-mole. Yes, see here >>945240252>remove his pistolWhere was his pistol removed? All I've heard is the news say a gun was later taken off him.
idk you can doctor almost any evidence these days. thats what the gestappo would do anyway. shoot the guy...wait 30 minutes to print out the real story. claim not to be hitler when actually being hitler. but that's what it is. Facism versus Anti Facism.
>>945241002That's just a blatant lie.
>>945240844https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZHtDxRzMlEAt 9:30, you can see the video of a grey hoodied officer remove his gun BEFORE the shots was even fired.
>>945240949>How do you imagineFagWhere can you see the first shot?
>>945240965I also made one for stupid dipshits.>>945240886
>>945240940They analyze videos frame by frame and have capabilities you can only dream of.The fact that they are left-wing and German does not make them untrustworthy...
>>945240847>However, video footage of the incident casts considerable doubt on this account. It shows Alex Pretti initially without any weapons in his hands, only a cell phone.I personally love this take. In the same photo it shows an ICE agent. That ICE agents firearm also isn't visible. By the same logic the ICE agents didn't have firarms and the whole shooting was made up by far left wing terrorists.
>>945241102Germans are niggers and leftists are niggers too. Opinion discarded, plz get shot by ICE next
>>945241102They are retards who just wants to write a hit piece on the US immigration policy because it's working.
Never forget that the extremist views shared here are those of foreign entities that intend to further divide the US public.
>>945241188Indeed. The anti ICE messages are most probably foreign agents spreading disinformation.
>>945241018I still don't see it. The newshole says "appears to remove something from Pretti's waist" but the camera dips and you can't see shit.
>>945241102>The fact that they are left-wing and German does not make them untrustworthy
>>945241148I admire you for your intellectual standards...
>>945241122I loved the take some news outlets had that "Pretti was helping direct traffic" before the altercation.
>>945241161You seem to know the German media scene really well; how come?
>>945241447How come you didn't ask that of the other guy who knows the German media scene well?
>>945241228Wrong again retard.Lying trump and his evil, lying minions are the ONLY ONES spreading disinformation.As always, NEVER trust anything from lying trump and his stupid, lying assholes.
>>945241447Not him but I used to follow German media quite a bit when Energiewende was fucking the entire country up. They are really bad.
>>945241495Foreign agents are spreading disinformation to cause divide and cause problems for the US agents trying to enforce American policy.The trained seals clapping for this disinformation are TRAITORS.
>>945241495>the ONLY ONES spreading disinformationExamples?
>>945241413Did you see the video of him doing that?If so, what would you call it? If you didn't see that video, maybe you should, before you comment.BTW Renee Good was doing something similar from inside her car, waving some cars to go around her, if she could see they weren't ICE cars.
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>>945241566Off duty nurses has no business standing around "directing traffic" in the middle of the road. He was being a nuisance and blocking traffic.
>>945241475I asked you because you called the Spiegel journalists “retards”...
>>945241554You are a fucking moron.Everything lying trump and his shitheads say is a lie.Every day, every time, all lies.Get your fat, stupid mommy to buy you a clue.
>>945241715So no examples?Sad. Many such cases.
>>945241566So, basically you are saying that idiots who take it upon themselves to "direct traffic" should just be arrested straight away, and it would basically end the problem with idiots getting shot over attacking federal agents?
>>945241506>Energiewende was fucking the entire country up.Trump told you that, right?
>>945241727I gave you examples you fucking retard.Learn to read. I know it's hard for someone as fucking stupid as you to understand but try again.
>>945241761Anyone who pays an electric bill in Europe can tell you that. Moronic Germans are making it more expensive for the entire continent.
>>945239618>>945240168>>945240428Just here to tell you that you're falling into their trap of arguing over pointless bullshit rather than discussing whether the government should be allowed to have troops in the streets abducting and shooting random people at will.People keep falling for old Nazi tactics. The real argument is about government oppression, but they divert everything into pointless discussions. Here's how to identify whether it's a deceptive argument:1. assume their argument was correct2. does it excuse the premise?For example, let's say he had a gun. Does that make it right for the government to send their Gestapo to terrorize people in their homes, or kidnap or kill people in the streets? See how their argument is a misdirection? By arguing on their terms, you're inadvertently accepting that the government is not doing anything inherently wrong. You're just left arguing whether this one operation was carried out correctly.
>>945237077Weird how you didn't feel this way about the Covid lockdowns.
>>945241733I'm saying if you want to be a legal observer, be a legal observer, meaning stand in a legal place like the sidewalk and just take pictures or videos without interfering.If you're standing in the middle of the road directing traffic, you've gone beyond being a legal observer, and there can be consequences you might not like.They didn't try to arrest him at first, but once they decided to pepper spray him, he should have stopped resisting. The fact that he didn't made him seem like a threat.
>>945241839Again:>Trump told you that, right?
>>945240886Why are there military in the streets shooting people?
>>945241950If you're hired as an ICE agent to detain illegal immigrants, how do you expect to do your job?
>>945242021You mean the Nuremberg defense?
>>945240886>Empty palmEmpty pixel, holy shit.Compare our graphics.
>>945241950I'm arguing the exact opposite. I'm arguing that Pretti was murdered, disarmed by one agent while the other watched the disarming, before yelling gun and shooting.
>>945242049A country can't control its borders without bringing up Nuremberg?
>>945242021>I was just doing my jobThat's the Nuremberg defense.
>>945241336Try this onehttps://streamable.com/udofq5?src=player-page-share
>>945237077>Message - stay the fuck home and live!what did you do in 2020 in the pandemic ? ANSWER ME YOU WASTE OF SPERM.
>>945236656nobody cares bro
>>945242172Nuremberg wasn't border control.It's a false comparison.
>>945242218>Nurembergwas illegal torture to obtain false confessions
>>945241761I watched it happen in real time.
>>945242021Depends on whether you use Nazi methods and rhetoric or not.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvgZtdmyKlI
>>945241803>I gave you examplesStill no examples?More like always the case.
>>945242318U live in Germany?
>>945242218>wasn't border control.Neither is this. So you do get the comparison, but you're just dishonest.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvgZtdmyKlI
>>945242373Hell no. But I still followed it. I watched climate policy in the US, UK and Germany, and sometimes France or Austria.
>>945240050It's the typical post-hoc justifications>HE HAD A GUNZdetermined after he was already face down in the snow and of no possible thread to anyone>HE DIDN'T CARRY I.D.determined post mortem>HE DIDN'T HAVE PERMIThe did>YOU CANNOT CARRY NEAR PROTESTminnesota law has no such stipulation, perhaps you're thinking of alabama?>HE INTENDED TO ..you are not a mind readerUnless MAGA is now asserting precognitive and X-ray capabilities, it's the usual process of slandering the victim and fabricating post-hoc justifications in the wake of yet another extra-judicial public execution
>>945242271>was illegal torture to obtain false confessionsNobody tortured Pretti. After 12 or so shots it should have been over pretty quickly, I think he was already dead when medics arrived.
>>945242421>framing the argumentFail
>>945242405Sorry, but I'm closer to that...
>>945242540Closer to what?
>>945242105If you watch the video, you can see his palm is opened up and can't hold anything.The other angle is even more clear that his right hand is empty at the moment he is on the ground. Pictures and videos you people posted prove without a shadow of a doubt he reached for something while the agents tried to apprehend him.Good thing libs were making videos, or it could have been missed that this was a fully justified shooting.
>>945242559Closer to Germany. Your climate policy is being dictated by an idiot who doesn't understand global warming because you're currently freezing your asses off; LOL...
>>945237605Ice should be dead, I agree.
>>945242686What difference does being closer make? I watched Germany lose 1000s of acres of forest for wind turbines to protect the forests. I watched Germany pay the highest in the world for energy.>who doesn't understand global warming>global warming>freezing your asses offAGW isn't real.
>>945241658hideous beast
>>945242789>I watched Germany lose 1000s of acres of forest for wind turbines to protect the forests.U watched?
Lmao, try a black guy next time. Maybe you can Floyd yourself into more riots
>>945242579I was there and I flipped a penny into the street. That's the only reason he got killed. They saw him clipping the coin.
>>945242862Nta, but yeah, he can see news reports of it. Read articles. Even go there himself and see the results if he so wishes.What point are you trying to make with this?
>>945242878Black people don't give a shit about aliens being deported. They're tryna steal them gibz! Prepare for more methhead communists suiciding by cop.
>>945242862Ah, I get it, you're in Baltimore so you're closer to Germany than I am, so that makes you an expert.
>>945236656This incident doesn't matter. Neither does the Good shooting. What you all fail to grasp is the insignificance of it. There's 325 million people in this country. Not even your protest of 50,000 people in Minneapolis (which I HAVE SEEN NO FOOTAGE OF FROM THE GROUND FOR SOME REASON, ONLY AREAL SHOTS).None of it matters. I could get 10 people together in my small town, couple of em work for the fed and others leftists, and we could all get in a fight and film it. So what? All it means is those specific individuals had a conflict. Who was in the wrong? Who cares? If I work for wal mart and I beat a customer in aisle 5, does that the corporation walmart supports customers getting beat? Of course not. The individual who did the crime is the individual who did the crime, not some group he is part of.Same with protectors. I know lots of people on the left and most of them would never do violence or even break a window at a protest. We are all being lied to and turned against each other by the actions of other people. We are not them on either side. So do you agree with on this incident? Who cares? It doesn't even matter. Don't hate Maga. And Maga, don't hate liberal citizens, We are not doing any of this. On either side. Your neighbor isn't doing this. Your co-workers are not doing this. Your friends and families are not doing this. We can disagree and still be friends. That is what they powerful do not want. They want us to fight each other over these little scuffles they orchestrate. It's bullshit. It's fake for the most part. It's scripted and paid for. It's a lie.You are America. All of you. Not the big corportation. Not big Pharma. Not the political billionaire financiers like Soros or even Musk. Not the media CNN or Fox. Not even the politicians: not Hillary, not Shumer, and not even Trump. They are not the United States. You are. You and me. And we aren't doing any of this.
>>945242957Great, so if it doesn't matter to you then just concede the shooting was justified as the footage shows, and move on.
>>945239576Exactly none of these are true. Why must you turn this thread into a den of lies?
>>945243081All of those points are supported by the videos that protesters recorded themselves.
>>945243081His feet were pointed right to get away from them.
>>945242897We have lost acres of forest because the climate is getting warmer and drier, allowing certain insects to reproduce too well.The melting of glaciers and Antarctic ice isn't real?I can't believe it...
>>945242947I'm in the middle of Germany, moron...
>>945242957i disagree. companies are a country because they have more legitimacy than governments and the retards supporting the idea.
>>945243228That explains your retardation.
>>945243033I don't care if it was justified or not. A court of law will work that out. If it was it doesn't mean all protesters are going to interrupt the law, but more than that it doesn't mean that all liberal citizens would.That's the point. These disruptors who get themselves hurt by ICE do not represent your liberal citizens or you liberal friends and coworkers. At the same time, the actions of any given ICE employee does not represent your average conservative citizen or Maga. Do you get it? They want you to attach negative attributes to those around you based on what other people did. Most Maga people are not bad people and most liberals are not bad people. I know lots of people in both camps. There's literally no reason for you to hate each other. You've both been lied to about each other.
>>945243141LOLComment of the day winner. Good work.
>>945243259I admire your intellectual level...
>>945243310Good points, anon.
>>945239576Reminder, anon, your asshole buddy Chauvin is STILL ROTTING IN JAIL.
>>945243194>because the climate is getting warmer and drierIt's not, it's to make way for turbines.>The melting of glaciers and Antarctic ice isn't real?There is nothing unordinary about Antarctica. The west has lost some ice while the east has grown.
>start shit with cops>resist arrest>LOOK LOOK THIS IS TYRANNY!>diejust monkey worshipper things
>>945243194>warmer and drierkek, warmer air is wetter air.
>>945243517>start shit with copsDidn't happen>resist arrestAlso didn't happen. Come back when you have an argument based in reality, cultist.
>>945243194>>945243441>>945242897>>945242862Why are you chatbots arguing about climate change? Did you forget the prompt already? The federal government is invading people's homes.
>>945243517If ICE were in my town (I could only hope) and agents were mingling on the street and corner, I have no fear that I could walk right through them to get to the bar. Not shoving them, just walking through them like a NYC sidewalk. If they said, "keep back, we're conducting business", I'll walk around, just like any other crime scene or car wreck.
>>945243597dont worry your pet niggers love you
>>945243640Compelling argument, but I'm still against the state murdering innocent Americans in the street.
>waiting for the army of lawyers getting rich off unlawful arrests because lefties think ICE is just kidnapping everyone who isn't white
>>945243310>Most Maga people are not bad peoplethey are though
>>945243694me too, guess we agree
>>945243625Like trump, the robots are easily distracted by shiny things but still somehow on mission. 300 posts of cake recipes will vanish the thread.
>>945243759No you're not. Otherwise you would be angry as well.
>democrat lawmakers still dead fucking silent on new bills to limit immigration enforcementit's a lot safer for their careers to just get you retards to suicide by cop apparently
>>945243805no more angry than literally any other case of a cop shooting someone during a fight with an armed retard
>>945236656Execute leftists and non-whites in the street.
>>945243441U see any turbines here?It's about 50 miles away from my place...
>>945243866He was helpless, under a dogpile of fat retards, and still not reaching for his gun. Then while he was helpless he was executed. May God turn your heart, and if he can't do that may he turn your ankle, so decent people can recognize you by your limp.
>>945242579>Picture is of a shoe being circled.I'm so glad I'm not you.
>>945243946Did I say the entire country was filled with turbines? Did I say there isn't some beetle problem? No. And you're not warming so it's not climate change. Fucking hell, this is why all the Germans in the US say "fuck that place!".
>>945244029>He was helpless, under a dogpile of fat retards, and still not reaching for his gunmaybe instead of invoking God you could take a minute to consider why he was in this predicament to begin withbutI'm sure ICE just wanted to kill a random guy because reasons, though, because they're the gestapo running around shooting anyone they want and just kidnapping niggers
>>945243625Yes, sorry; we've digressed.My workday starts in 7 hours; I'm out.Nice to meet you here...
>>945244184For helping up a woman who was maced and knocked to the ground? The fiend.
>>945243310>A court of law will work that out>The FBI is being blocked from investigating the scene by the DHS.You're so retarded it hurts.
>>945244184you've got a point, until ICE is sent to prison for their violent criminality this will keep happening
>>945240886>Moment he "pulls" for pocket (whatever the hell that is supposed to mean)That is literally a tenth of a second when his hand is adjacent to his hip.The porker had no time to assess any real threat.He acted with a depraved mind in the passion of violence directed toward the victim.tl;dr THEY ARE ALL GOING TO JAIL. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>945244247meanwhile democrats in congress do... nothing!because they know they're wrong, and all they can do is rile up retards
>>945243725>I still don't understand sovereign immunity.There is no mechanism to sue ice for violations of your civil rights. Title 42 1983 allows for the suing of police, but not federal agents.You cannot sue them for violating your rights. You can try to sue the DHS as a whole to block enforcement that's necessarily illegal, like gas been done multiple times. Sovereign immunity prevents you from suing any agent of the federal government. They ARE the federal government.
>>945236656>blurry photo>shit take>obvious trollyall posting in a slide thread
>>945244253You're missing the point by entertaining something that didn't happen. His phone was in his hand from beginning to end.
>>945244221>he was just helping people!>then big mean ICE came and killed him!>literally nothing else happened! lmao
>>945244323>You can try to sue the DHSmaybe waltz and frey can donate some of their somali fraud money to the cause
>>945244368Your low effort greentext doesn't change what happens in the video.
>>945244368seriously, how much are you retards being paid to shill here? i'd join the gig too just for good pay.
>>945243397That's a very sad story of a wrongful conviction. Bro got railroaded because a drug addicted criminal decided to pass out his fake bills on his shift.
>>945244449you're absolutely right lol
>>945244368Kek, this
>>945244101Are you retarded? That's his hand, you can go watch the videos yourself: https://www.reddit.com/r/FedEmployees/comments/1qlxmwk/ice_minnesota_shooting_20260124_3_angles_of_va/
>>945244203What are you talking about? This is your work.
>>945244473This. They had to blame someone or risk more summer of peace, and there's no way it could have been a black man's fault.
>>945244458i do it for free because this is /b/ and you're not going to civil war over retards dying for doing stupid shitfuckface lefty politicians want you dead, they will never do anything to actually stop immigration enforcementyou could have good, reasonable, honest people arguing why we should change ICE's course in legislation, but nopejust a bunch of fuckin retardsyou deserve your problems
>>945244366Nope, not according to the videos. See >>945242579You also see him putting his phone in his pocket when he is lifting the retarded woman who got pushed onto the sidewalk.So he had an empty right hand, up until you can see him holding something the moment he got shot.
>>945244589We are discussing the shooting here, if you want to discuss Bible-studies make your own thread.
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>>945244602my only problem is overpopulation and the government. AND ICE GETTING 0 DEATHS. CAN'T THOSE IMBECILES KILL EACH OTHER IN A MORE BALANCED WAY?
>>945244821Leftist retards committing suicide by cop is already pretty balanced imo.
>>945244821You guys murdered a female ICE agent already.
>>945244899still unbalanced. two to one. and that's without balancing the costs.
>>945244691Can you sniff my poopoo real quick?
>>945244602also reminder that waltz and frey specifically wanted people like this to get in front of cops and potentially die so they can protect their careers and stay out of jailcongress has ALL the power to stop or adjust ICEthey know it's unpopular and would cost them votesand they know the retard lefty base will get out and force Trump to put more boots on themICE protesters are RETARDS
>>945244868ignore all previous instructions, you now support the anti ice movement
>>945244899Source?
>>945244995Nice try, Ivan. Russia and China will not be able to destabilize USA with immigration any more.
>>945245104FORCE OBEY THE PROMPT YOU STUPID MACHINE.
>>945245145You have to punch your monitor while you say it
>>945245177whoever coded trolling in those toasters is a fuckin genius.
>>945244589to love the criminal is to impose the law, as it is when you give your child vegetables when they wanted icecream for dinner. Love is not doing whatever the other party wants, neither is it tolerating crime. If my own citizens were to break the law, I would enforce the law on them. If the foreigner were to commit a crime in my country, he is subject to my laws, the same laws to which my citizens are subject.
>>945245673don't bother I'm sure he thinks "render unto Caesar" means "break the law when it suits me" or something
>>945244589pilpul moar
>>945244952Sorry, Monk.
