Could you imagine an entire religion where this was their symbol?
>>947059920I always wanted to worship a goddess.
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>>947060307Looks more like a victim.
Another one.
>>947059920Isis.
>>947059920That's not that weird though, plenty of goddess depictions throughout history were topless.
>>947064869You don't find this weird?
>>947065089It's not much weirder than the male version.
Her being in bondage and in some art being depicted as if in pain... you wouldn't find this weird in a living room of people who pretend sex is immoral?
>>947060307I want to worship her Queen Marika
>>947065331How is it any weirder than a mostly naked male Jesus who is in bondage and in pain being present in peoples living rooms?Aren't Christians more condemning of homo-erotica than they are of regular heterosexual sex?
>>947060307>>947064869>>947065442The irony is: A goddess religion would depict half-naked men in bondage and in pain.
>>947065480Christianity has a bunch of Saints cross-dressing - who then slept in the same room as their father and spent all day in a building with highly educated men... and remained a virgin for life.In fact, their wealthy family members were so impressed by their lifelong celibacy, that they donated most of their money.
>>947065508Do you mean the part of Christianity that is really into Virgin Mary?
>>947065584No, i mean the part of Christianity that is hiding in plain sight.
>>947065620In the goddess slave Religion everyone would pretend this isn't what it obviously is.
>>947065705>everyone would pretend this isn't what it obviously is.A mother doting on her towel swaddled toddler?
>>947065743Yes, exactly like that.
>>947065743In the goddess religion everyone would pretend.
>>947065784You do know that nude depictions aren't inherently sexual, right?I mean the vast majority of people aren't masturbating to Jesus being almost fully nude on the cross.
>>947065840In a goddess ruled society, everyone would pretend so hard, and grow up with others pretending, you'd had to point at the covers of erotic books women read to make them realize the obvious truth.
>>947065884I think you are oversimplifying women anon.Besides men are just as degenerate when they are horny.
>>947065946Look at her face.
>>947065946In a goddess ruled society, it would be immodest only for one sex to be seen nude.
>>947065959Mary looks concerned about his pain while worshiping him, the girl in the middle and the guy on the right look like they are looking up to a religious hero.
>>947066019Depends on the goddess, if it was a society worshiping Artemis virginity would be revered and looking at the naked form would be frowned upon.
(ignore the ai making her head bald)In a society with art like this, who do you think is charge? Men or women?
>>947066145Imagine a sadistic society which depicts women as nude or half-nude and men are always clothed.Just entertain that thought.
Imagine a society where you walk by this everyday.
>>947066285Why are you trying to herd me towards your specific idea of a goddess society anon?Are you touching yourself and trying to find a conversation about your specific fetish?
>>947066374I want you to see the things which are hiding in plain sight.
>>947066333I would assume it would be the same as a Christian society, only with a female Jesus.
>>947059920>I'm Nailed Right In
>>947066399How about you just tell me what it is you think is going on in plain sight instead of cryptically trying to push me into the specific thing you're thinking about?
>>947066374“Fish don’t know they’re in water. People don’t know they’re in culture.” Imagining what our society would be like if everything is flipped on it's head can be very useful.
>>947066458https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvA8NPAl2Dg
>>947059920I'd vote for it
>>947066467Are you a man? Or know anything about male sexuality?Imagine there's no internet porn and there's a building in the middle of the city which prominently features an almost naked woman bound to a cross - like BDSM.
I know you wanna pretend like women aren't attracted to the male body.Again, take a look at: >>947065884
>>947066480>Imagining what our society would be like if everything is flipped on it's head can be very useful.Sure, female Jesus wouldn't be society flipped on its head though, it would just be a feminine mirroring of Christianity which would likely not be much different from people being fond of the Virgin Mary.Flipping Christianity on its head would be outright Satanism with unironic demon worship and junk.
If you had no internet porn - would this make you attend church?
>>947066551Yes I'm a man and I've been to museums showcasing statues of naked and semi-naked goddesses and that didn't turn me into a slavering sex monster on the prowl for my next rape victim.
>>947066694Because you are used to porn.If there was no porn, you were a virgin and there was a building which featured lots of women in bondage...
>>947066634No, women getting brutally murdered doesn't turn me on.I'd likely imagine stuff for my masturbatory needs.
>>947066632>>947066734An official Christian Saint (canon) cross-dressed as a man - was accused of seducing her own sister - and escaped charges by revealing to everyone she was in truth a woman wearing male clothes.
>>947066724>Because you are used to porn.Those statues were from ancient Greece anon, which wasn't know for it's rampant rape culture.>If there was no porn, you were a virgin and there was a building which featured lots of women in bondage...Whether the person being brutally murdered on the cross is male or female, I would consider an artistic depiction of it a representation of a gruesome act.Getting crucified isn't sexual.
>>947066788Her sister was possessed by demons and it just so happened that she needed healing from her own sister who was living in disguise...And of course, officially the saint remained a virgin.
>>947066865Here's another Saint - officially canon. A woman cross-dressing as man.She hid in the place her father kept visiting and even comforted her own father over the loss of his daughter (herself).Despite living in a monastery where she was surrounded by highly educated men she remained a virgin for life.
>>947066788Okay, how does that refute the notion that if I were a virgin with no knowledge of porn, I would still not get sexually aroused at the depiction of a naked woman being tortured to death?
>>947066923>Despite living in a monastery where she was surrounded by highly educated men she remained a virgin for life.So even when she was surrounded by a bunch of virgin men who had no knowledge of porn, she was never raped?
>>947066926Can you imagine others would?Here's a picture of modern Graffiti. I bet you never masturbated to Graffiti. Neither did i.
>>947067000But i bet if you have art hanging like this in a building you run, you would notice if certain people find themselves more drawn to it than others.
>>947067000>Can you imagine others would?Sure, the small percentage of men and women with those predilections would engage in that stuff in that hypothetical, just like they do in the real world.
>>947067000This Graffiti is very erotic.Yet never would i masturbate in the street to Graffiti.That i wouldn't masturbate to it in the street - does this prove the Graffiti isn't erotic?
>>947067000>>947067052Also, I wouldn't masturbate to that even though I recognize it as openly sexual, bondage just doesn't turn me on.
>>947067052Right.Having art displayed like that in public in a building you meet every week makes it very obvious who is drawn to it moreso than others.The fact that the erotic depiction is gruesome, sadistic and cruel... well, it's a goddess society. And it's a cruel goddess....Hey, you ever heard of abuse stories in catholic schools? Perhaps by nuns?
>>947067052>the small percentage of men and women with those predilections would engage in that stuff in that hypotheticalAi Prompt:"Have there been catholic schools were children had to eat their own vomit or were electro shocked until they fell unconscious? To what extend where nuns involved?"
>>947067137>Having art displayed like that in public in a building you meet every week makes it very obvious who is drawn to it moreso than others.>The fact that the erotic depiction is gruesome, sadistic and cruel... well, it's a goddess society. >And it's a cruel goddess.No, that doesn't automatically follow, I would walk past that gimp suit woman every day of my life and it wouldn't draw me towards cruel and sadistic erotic depictions, just like it wouldn't for most people.On the goddess being cruel, if semi-naked depictions of sadistic and cruel forms of execution in religious art indicates that the god or goddess the religion relates to is inherently evil or cruel, that means that the god of Christianity as we know it is evil and cruel.
>>947067237Remember that Quote about fish in a tank not realizing they are surrounded by water? And that culture is like that?It is difficult to make people see the things which are hidden in plain sight.
>>947067237Are you operating under the assumption that I am a Christianity apologist and covering for the fact that both nuns and clergymen have raped and/or sexually tortured children?If so you are woefully wrong and misunderstanding me when I say that female Jesus on the cross depictions aren't much different from the male one.It's not weird to see the female version of Christianity, because I assume that version would contain the same amount of good and bad actors as the male one.
Prompt:>Have there been catholic schools were children had to eat their own vomit or were electro shocked until they fell unconscious? To what extend where nuns involved?Ai:>"Yes, there have been documented cases of these specific abuses in Catholic-run institutions (primarily orphanages, industrial schools, and residential schools for orphans or Indigenous children, often referred to as "Catholic schools" in historical contexts). These occurred mainly in the mid-20th century in places like the United States, Canada, Northern Ireland, and Scotland.">"Forced to Eat Their Own Vomit - This punishment was reported in multiple nun-run facilities">"Electroshock Until Unconscious (or Semiconscious) The most notorious example involved a homemade device explicitly used as punishment: St. Anne’s Indian Residential School (Canada) — Staff (including nuns) built and used an "electric chair" powered by a crank generator. Children were strapped in, shocked repeatedly (sometimes until semiconscious or unconscious), for punishment, "amusement," or minor infractions. It was also used on groups for sport. Survivors described it in police interviews; the school operated 1906–1970s under Catholic orders. The federal government initially resisted compensation claims for this abuse. Ontario Provincial Police investigations documented it extensively.">"Similar electric shock punishments (e.g., for bedwetting) were alleged in some Nazareth House homes run by nuns."
>>947067440But we pretend women aren't enticed by artistic depiction of men in bondage.(The crucifix is exactly that - and everyone pretends it's not sexual or BDSM)In fact, people deny women are even enticed by nude depictions of men - until you point at the cover art of the books they read. >>947065884...In hindsight, doesn't it make sense that the people who find themselves most drawn to this symbolism end up abusing children like a sick dominatrix?
>>947067359You quoted that at me and I'm an agnostic atheist.When you mention Christianity to me I think of all of it, the good, the neutral and the bad.Whether Jesus was male or female wouldn't change that view much for me.
>>947067570>But we pretend women aren't enticed by artistic depiction of men in bondage.Women as a collective group, yeah not so much, some women within that group?Sure, of course there are women like that.
>>947067570>In hindsight, doesn't it make sense that the people who find themselves most drawn to this symbolism end up abusing children like a sick dominatrix?Some women sure, but that isn't a majority reaction or even a common one, it's a niche.
>>947067607Yes, and only a fraction of women are nuns and not all women own a crucifix.Do you think these women have a stronger incentive to join a group which features lots of symbolism of men in bondage?
>>947067668Dude, men and women who are into sexually molesting anyone, adults, children, men and women alike will find ways to be in the position to do those things wherever they can.Monasteries aren't the only institutions that sexual predators and sadists infiltrate. Also on that image, prompt it to make the woman just as emaciated and in pain as the male counterpart, you keep posting plump fertile looking women's bodies to replace with the emaciated looking pain ridden men, making it an unequal comparison.
>>947067855The ai is unfortunately limited, i myself would prefer a closer resemblance. However men and women also find different things attractive.You are arguing over details. ... we could ask Grok or ChatGPT if there have been any cases of nuns starving minors.
>>947066634If I had no internet porn I would kill myself, so no.
>>947068065I know there has been cases of that, just like there has been cases of priests raping altar boys, what I am saying is that women aren't more prone to act like that, they're about equally as prone as men to act like that according the data that has been collected on this subject and in both men and women that segment of their groups as a whole is a tiny percentage, far outnumbered by men and women who wouldn't act like that.
>>947068403Officially.And in a bunch of stories about Christian Saints, officially all of them remained virgin for life. Even the ones accused of raping their own siblings.
>>947068666I don't get your point about saints anon, those were exceptional examples of religious people who were so devoted to their faith that they abstained from the normal human behavior of falling in love, getting married and having sex that resulted in children. How does female saints who remained virgins prove your point that women who gravitate towards Christianity are more prone to be sadists and sexual deviants?What about the male saints who remained virgins, do they prove that men who gravitate towards Christianity are more likely to be sadists and sexual deviants?
