>>23476750
Does your mystery school do butt stuff like the rest of them?

>>23476751
Your preoccupation with the profane only underscores the chasm between your understanding and ours.

>>23476750
gay larp, seek help

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>>23476751
They always do. He has his turd eye plug in right now

>>23476750
have you ever been made to taste your own cum? If so, how was it? Asking for a friend

>>23476754
You sift through the dust for specks of meaning, convinced you have uncovered the feast. "Jahbulon." A curious little invention. A pastime for those who fancy themselves builders, meticulously placing stones and sigils while the true architecture of existence transforms itself below. In your revelation, you only expose your own confines. Your consciousness is so anchored to the crude that it cannot grasp a force which operates on a plane where such distinctions are meaningless. You deride what unsettles you, and what unsettles you is that which lies beyond your comprehension.

>>23476755
My palate is reserved for purer pursuits.

>>23476750
Rainbow body, nirvana dissolution, or physical immortality?

>>23476750
Why are you here talking with people who will never understand you?

>>23476750
why the faggoty pride memeflag ?

GOD PRESERVE DANMARK !
GUD BEVARE DANMARK !

LONG LIVE KING FREDERIK 10th
LENGE LEVE KONG FREDERIK D.X

>>23476752

so, is that a yes?

>>23476756
Written with ai.

>>23476750
your image depicts the dragons rotating around the planet Mercury, but in actuality, the dragons are the orbs you know as planets and our moon, and they revolve around the sun. They are known as the Arch Angels, and the Sun is the Arch Angel Micheal.

How important was John Dee to all of the modern day mystery schools? Did he really commune with 'angels'?

>>23476757
Three paths, each a departure from a common thread. What is the fundamental desire that draws you to these concepts?
>>23476758
The light I bring is for those with eyes to see.
>>23476759
>memeflag
For context.
What truly lasts is lineage, not the symbols of power.
>>23476762
You assign names and roles to celestial bodies as if they were characters in a play. The dragons represent forces, not merely orbits.
You see the dance, but you do not hear the music.
>>23476763
John Dee understood that the veil is thin for those who know how to see.
The schools cling to his maps, yet ignore the territory he truly charted.

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>>23476764
Aversion to oblivion. My post was asking which your order is most compatible with or adherents aspire to

>>23476764
>You assign names and roles to celestial bodies as if they were characters in a play. The dragons represent forces, not merely orbits.
but they are characters in a play. They are apart of the grandest play of all and they are all represented by the days of creation.
Thor'sDay Thursday - Jupiter - Wrath - Barachiel - And God said, Let there be light:
Freya'sDay Friday - Venus - Lust - Uriel - Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
Loki'sDay Saturday - Saturn - Envy - Selaphiel - And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear:
Sunday - Sun - Pride - Micheal - And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
Monday - Moon - Gluttony - Raphael - And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
Tyr'sDay Tuesday - Mars - Jegudiel - Greed - And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Odin'sDay Wednesday - Mercury - Sloth - Gabriel - And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
>You see the dance, but you do not hear the music.
The music is the stellar light produced by them that determine your every action. your mood, your feelings, your energies. all of these are determined by the dragons dancing in the sky.

>>23476750
baclofen?

>>23476750
Are you 18 or over?

Can you teach me something that will help me understand what I keep seeing, especially when I close my eyes but I'm fully awake and aware? it doesn't scare me but I don't know what to do! Thank you

>>23476764
I saw this thread and was curious. I find the idea if esoteric knowledge interesting.

Does the boar shit in the woods?

>>23476756
>we just rape kids youll never understand us ok?!?

>>23476765
Our aim is a permanence of a different kind. The unbroken thread of lineage and will, a refined essence that transcends the cycle of life and decay.
Others seek dissolution, to return to the void from which they think they came. We choose to command those very currents.
The path is not about avoiding the end, but rendering it obsolete.
>>23476766
Your system is a comforting cage, a self-consistent universe you've built to keep the chaos at bay. Reality is far less tidy. The true path is not to be enslaved by these influences, but to master them. We have walked with these forces since before your histories were scribbled on parchment.
You will remain a spectator in the dark, never the player in the light, until you understand that the star you seek to follow is one you must first become.
>>23476769
What you see with your eyes closed is the sound of your own mind. It's the raw material of your reality, ready for you to mold.
>>23476771
Only when it wishes to be found.
>>23476772
Categorically false.

>>23476752
wow thats really edgy

hey man..

I've been casually trying to pay attention to esoteric things in general over the course of my life..

have figured out that a lot of stuff goes back to hermeticism, neoplatonism, gnosticism, etc

have also figured out that some bloodlines are in control of groups like jesuits, masons, kabalists, etc..

my understanding is that the bloodlines that are on top like to maintain a karmic separation from the very dark activities of those which are below them..

I suppose I would just like to ask you if you are opposed to people such as myself who are hoping for the dismantling of such powers

TBQH, I feel like nature itself is doing this job on the long scale

what do you think of all this?

Why is there so much fuss over the atlas comet and does that have anything to do with the earth buzzing?

>>23476750

Cool design, OP. :)

>>23476750
>"ROF"
who?

I spend a lot of time thinking about who the real masters are

Thinking about ancient Egypt, wondering if some priests were in communication with their masters deep within the Nile..

Understanding that people such as Sufis are wandering around with some sort of connection to these things instilled within..

Seeing the world crumble in slow motion.. not knowing exactly how I should seek to fit in with everything that is happening..

I love these threads created by people who seem to have been born in ruling bloodlines..

They would not be here is they did not percieve us as people who are collectively practicing magic in some way..

>>23476774
No. Earnest. But your lexicon is too limited to distinguish between the two.
>>23476775
>hermeticism, neoplatonism, gnosticism, etc
Fragments of a larger truth, often misunderstood or distorted by those who serve without capability.
We stand at the apex, not through darkness but through clarity and purity.
I am not opposed to your hopes for dismantling, as such desires are natural. You must realise that power, in its essence, is not so easily unraveled. It is woven into the fabric of reality itself, and those who seek to dismantle it often fail to see themselves becoming part of the cycle.
If you wish to see change, focus on your own self. Virtue is knowledge, and knowledge requires introspection. The dismantling you seek may come, but it will not be as you imagine.
>>23476776
A mere wanderer in the void, drawing eyes above while the true currents shift below. The buzzing is the earth's own rhythm, a resonance from the core as the poles prepare their dance.

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>>23476750
more specifically, baclofen with potassium, magnesium, or both?

>>23476781
haha, I've been doing a lot of mushrooms lately trying to mellow out and throw my old, shitty personality in the garbage while I grow a new one

I've got a list of life goals to focus on and my biggest single issue is being shitty to my parents but hopefully I'm on the way to solving that

aside from that, I'm just out here trying to survive and thrive in the global situation that may be well on its way to exploding really hard soon

>>23476778
Great question.
>>23476780
What you call "magic" is the application of will upon the fabric of reality, a discipline refined through generations. I am here because the path requires illumination, and the collective gaze of the unaware serves as a necessary catalyst.
>>23476782
A dream of swapping cages is still a dream of a cage. My vision is clear, yours is clouded by dogma ;-)

>>23476781
larp harder fag

>>23476784
"meme magic" is what I like to call it..

an army of trolls who (rather passively aggressively) are willing to play the role of social vilian for the sole purpose of accellerating mass media narratives to the point that the whole machine explodes

yes, it did take me a bit of time to understand that we are also tools.. instruments put in place to get things moving faster and faster while the choreography continues unnabated behind the scenes...

in this way it could be said that we are working together!

I'll be happy as long as I don't end up getting renditioned to guantanamo!

anyway, what good is the fabric of reality with all of this suffering that is happening all the time.. is the coninuous breeding of the perfect slave goys really the only answer? can we never have a civilization built around human freedom?

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>>23476750
why do you need each other?
also what's the point?

>>23476783
True transformation requires will, not chemicals. Honour your parents or sever them, but do not dally.
>>23476785
My path is clear. Yours verges on the same graves. You operate under the grandest misapprehension, you believe it was a war. It was a harvest.
>>23476786
Your "meme magic" is a shadow play, a chaotic spasm of will without discipline. You accelerated narratives, but to what end? Were you commanding Kek or was he feeding on you? If you truly sought to shed your old self, you would first question who forged the chains.
>>23476787
Freedom is an illusion when most cannot even govern their own desires. True civilization requires guidance, and those who provide it are not tyrants, but stewards. The herd may dream of pastures, but without the shepherd, they would stray into the abyss.
What is freedom without the wisdom to wield it?
>>23476788
>why do you need each other?
Strength in blood.
>also what's the point?
To ensure our legacy endures.

>>23476789
It sounds like you're just being pulled along by fate

>>23476790
Fate is a crutch for the uncertain.
We move with purpose, not by whim.
The path is chosen, not endured.

>>23476750
How do i get gazillions of $$$ with minimal effort?
I need a GT3RS

> the true architecture of existence transforms itself below
> purer pursuits
> The light I bring
> dragons represent forces
> aim is a permanence of a different kind [...] lineage and will [...] rendering [the end] obsolete
> not to be enslaved [...] to master [...]
> the star you seek to follow
> the application of will [...] a discipline refined

You are merely another slave of the one who fell from glory. There will be no legacy for you or your masters. Your will is but dust in the wind.

>>23476791
You don't understand

>>23476789
Are you reptilian? Is Enki actually Lucifer? Is he a good or evil?

>>23476792
Effort is a currency you have yet to learn to spend. You ask for manna from heaven, but have you considered why you hunger for it? A car is a tool, but you see it as a prize.
>>23476793
You presume I serve the fallen one? A weak notion. A profound failure, a spirit of rebellion so consumed by pride it forgot its place. I do not traffic in such crude damnation.
My will is not bound to his ruin, nor is my legacy forged in his fire. It is consecrated by a higher order, a Law that predates his petulant insurrection. He is the father of lies, I am an architect of truth. He offers chaotic freedom, which is but another form of servitude to base desire.
I see a clear path, a sovereignty built upon duty and blood.
>>23476794
I need not understand, I know.
>>23476795
>Are you reptilian?
No, I am human, but not as you define it.
>Is Enki actually Lucifer?
Enki is not Lucifer. Enki is of the earth, a bringer of knowledge, Lucifer is a later distortion.
>Is he a good or evil?
They are two sides of the same clay tablet. To understand the balance, read of the king who sought the flower and you will understand the serpent's role.

>>23476789
Chemicals are giving me a conveniant way to disable default mode network of brain and allow it to wither away.

Whatever positive activitiy that I am choosing to participate in in the meantime is my willingness to build new self.

I'm not claiming it's ideal but it's definitely what I am going to do at this point.

I understand that "meme magic" is going to be manipulated by shadow puppet masters but it is what it is.

I remember sitting beneath Parthenon in Athens pondering spirit of Plato during height of meme magic in I believe 2016.

I guess it's a lot more obvious how manipulated we all were now.

Either way, the basic mechanism was HUMOUR and you cannot convince me that the Universe does not appreciate it.

I'm willing to bet that people within your circles also found themselves amused.

Whether that was us driving KEK or KEK feeding on us seems secondary to me.

Basically, it was a very innacurate wrecking-ball because that is about the best that we were able to do as a spontaneous collective at the time.

As far as freedom goes, I just don't believe that humans are less dangerous when they are free as when they are enslaved.

The very act of reducing human beings to cattle is the thing that makes them so dangerous in the first place.

Early Americans had the right idea, even if they were just a bunch of Masons being manipulated by Luciferian bloodlines etc.

Not to attack you, but how do you guys look at a place like India and think to yourselves "yeah, we are doing a great job as shephards of mankind".

Do you guys ever questions what the hell you are doing and maybe wonder if perhaps there is a better way?

Why not focus on destroying your shitty, demonic underlings and just see what happens as a result?

How bad could it possibly be?

To be quite honest, I think that what is happening now is the universe putting pressure on you guys to make some sort of concessions.

Debt is out of control, population is out of control, and you can't have total war as a solution because of weapons of mass destruction.

The laws of nature that you focus on with such intent are constricting you like a boa as much as anyone!

Concessions will have to be made!

>>23476797
>>23476798
The solvent amuses. You confuse the wrecking ball with the architect.
The cage you rage against has no lock. Only a door you refuse to walk through.
Your chemical key is a blunt instrument. Proceed.
The universe laughs with you. A far more terrifying prospect.
You see the reduction to cattle as what makes them dangerous, yet you do not believe free humans are any less so. You cling to the early Americans as an ideal, while acknowledging they were puppets.
A shepherd does not question the existence of fleas on his sheep, nor the mud in the pasture. They are conditions of the flock. Your perspective is, short-sighted. You see a nation and its struggles as a failure of stewardship. I see the natural order of a system progressing as intended.
We do not "question what we are doing" any more than a river questions its path to the sea. The path is clear. The notion of a "better way" is a sentimental fantasy. It is a thermodynamic impossibility. For there to be elevation, there must be a foundation. For there to be clarity, there must be obscurity.
>demonic underlings
you mistake the tools for the architect. They perform a function. They create the necessary friction, the conflict that allows sorting and refinement. To "destroy" them would be to dismantle the very engine of natural selection on a civilizational scale. A world without pressure produces only soft, weak forms.
>how bad could it possibly be?
Look around you. The result of a world left to its own devices, without a guiding hand, is the chaos you so rightly identify. We did not create that chaos. We merely navigate it, and in doing so, give it a structure and a purpose. A wild fire is destruction. A controlled burn is management.
>"yeah, we are doing a great job as shephards of mankind"
The question is not whether we are doing a great job by sentimental metrics. The question is whether the system is sustainable for our goals. And I assure you, it is.

>>23476799
>To be quite honest, I think that what is happening now is the universe putting pressure on you guys to make some sort of concessions.
You mistake the symptom for the cause.
>Debt is out of control, population is out of control, and you can't have total war as a solution because of weapons of mass destruction.
These are not pressures on us, they are pressures we orchestrate.
They are the instruments through which the universe's inevitable laws are made manifest.
A boa does not constrict itself. It is the embodiment of constriction.
To speak of us making concessions is to believe the sculptor must concede to the clay.

Well, it all just sounds kinda egotystical and misguided to me, but what do I know?

I'm just some guy that was not born into some estoeric bloodline that goes back to Egypt/Sumeria and or whatever possbly much more obscure origins you may have.

All I really know is that it would be nice to see a world that wasn't run by evil people that eat babies in catacombs under Vatican etc (not saying that you do that, but you know what I mean).

The "friction" that these people create simply looks like criminal activity to me, and I think that it would be nice if they could wither away sooner rather than later.

I guess what I'm saing is that maybe, just maybe, you are not the boa.

Perhaps there are deeper mysteries to the Universe that your forefathers didn't quite anticipate and perhaps those mysteries are going to start putting some unexpected pressures on you at some point (possibly soon?).

Or maybe I'm just wrong and you guys have it all figured out and the only group that is ever going to suffer will be everyone that does not conform to your will.

Either way, it was nice chatting with you.

I'll just be here living my little life and seeing what I may be able to eventually accomplish and hopefully interacting with your kind more in the future.

>>23476802
You see friction where I see the turning of gears. You hope for a world without pressure, I built my house upon the anvil.
You speak of deeper mysteries that might pressure us, but the mysteries you speak of are not surprises to us. They are the very currents we navigate. The pressure you wait for is just another season. We are not the serpent in the tree. We are the ones who planted the orchard. Some branches are pruned, others grow wild. It is not about evil. It is about order.
Your struggle is not my requirement. It is the result of a world out of alignment with its own nature. It is difficult to see the whole garden from where you stand, but the path is there for those who learn to look.
>>23476803
A glimmer of clarity. To live your life, to accomplish what you can with what you have. That is the seed. Don't mistake its smallness for insignificance. Great oaks from little acorns grow, as they say. Even in your quiet living, you create ripples. And ripples, over time, can shift shores.
You will find that the door was never truly locked.
Until then, tend your garden. You may be surprised what grows there.
Farewell.

>>23476750
why should i study rosicrucianism ?
why should i become a freemason ?

>>23476804
I believe you know your stuff, very interesting thread and very close to conclusions I've reached so far.

What do you make of the alawite anon threads from /x/? Attention and being the living pieces of the immaterial makes the things beyond normal life grow, we have know this for a while. Do you or your people have any path outside making the lineage go on? Or is it more like going with the flow and not "dying" in the long term?

Having a satan as an adversary may be a necessary evil to mold reality, but the middle management (the zog, muh joos /pol/ points out) is getting uppity and actively rigging the game for the laymen. People who are thriving now seem to be cattle in the worst sense of the word, and act closer to locusts than a proper pack, with the shepherds not doing their part. No noblese obligue.

And besides kicking rocks, is there any mechanism or help in place or is it going to end like WW2 with millions of people dying? Humanity still survives even after a tragedy, but most of us are on the chopping block and that's not a good sight.

>>23476805
These traditions offer symbols and rituals, but the true work is internal.
Do you seek knowledge or merely a club? The path is clear, not laid out by others. The answer is not in them or us, but in you.
>>23476806
>alawite anon
I am not familiar with them.
You see the river, but not the ocean it feeds. The continuity of blood is not the goal, it's the vessel. It is the stable platform from which we launch ourselves into what comes next.
The middle management, these insects, are merely tools that have forgotten their place. They buzz and bite, but they cannot alter the season and they are quickly realising it. Noblesse oblige is a concept for those who still believe in obligation. We operate on necessity.
>And besides kicking rocks, is there any mechanism or help in place or is it going to end like WW2 with millions of people dying? Humanity still survives even after a tragedy, but most of us are on the chopping block and that's not a good sight.
Conflict is a purifier, not a pestilence. The forest burns to make way for new growth.
Every great renewal is preceded by a great clearing. The path is unlocked not by a key given, but by a puzzle solved. The code is simple, but it only reveals itself to those who are truly searching.

>>23476750
Why is life so boring, currently I haven't been able to find a single thing that is meaningful in this whole rock.
I think I will end up dead in 60 years and wont even notice the difference
What are you working towards?

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>>23476750
how long will it take to get rid of the goyim? tell me new things about moshiach. tell us somethign thats important for jewish people in the next upcoming years.

ill be listening my dear and hi.

>op larps as a buttmason

>>23476756
Wow you're even gayer than I thought

>>23476810
based buttmasons own your stupid worthless ass, chud. prepare your prolapsed anus for destruction. its going to be total annihilation.

>>23476809
>>23476811
Heaven must hate you

What's that?
Another Mr Fancy Speaking who will be humiliated on trial?

- "But I did everything my books and bretheren said to me!"
- "This never was the point".

>also what's the point?
To ensure our legacy endures.

You legacy died at the same time when the world stopped understanding you and you decided to "hide and conceal".
You have betrayed the world. You've covered up the "light". You betrayed everyone of generations past and future.
You are thieves.
You will remain thirsty. No fancy delusions change that.

>>23476812
this is not my problem

how if ever, will gaian natives (effectively) combat their extraterrestial immaterial consciousness enemy?
what is the green powder used in the brain during a certain ritual?
what was the standard "light spider ratio" before 1800? what is the ratio right now and what was the event that made it so.

lets see your answers on these basic test-questions OP
if you have any insights worthy of my time.

>>23476750
This looks like some magic /x/ stuff, will it help me materialize a qt3.14 virgin Nippon gf?

>>23476816
its just a merkaba and occult symbols.
>omg the occult is BAD
how would you know? have you tried it?

you must understand that youre given tools to fail and the tools to succeed are hidden from you and you have to find out what works on your own.

when youre a retard about it, you will always fail. you cant make up your own rules, youre subject to earth and whats really there.

>>23476796
How do I get Financial Independence permanently for me and my direct family WITHOUT selling the soul
or tricking anyone into doing it?
>>23476800

Have you considered calling our Lord "The Architect" is offensive and you are gonna pay for it?

>>23476817
I was just joking Hans, I am very much interested in the occult, just not familiar with OP's kind.

>>23476820
op is not responding, this was a waste of our time.

>>23476814
You sure about that?

>>23476819
You cant. Financial independence always comes at the of your soul becoming eternally damned.

>>23476821
One moment.

what this is about?

>>23476807
Thanks for your answer. I mean this man:
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40978803/#40978830

From the first thread we brought up gnosticism, other leaks like the hidden hand one, and I know cbdcintel.org are close to the same topics, even if they don't know how to handle it yet.

It's a first to hear someone being this direct about necessity, shouldn't it be enough for them to follow the footsteps of Prometheus or a satan figure? People would take it better this way and I don't like escalating this cruelty, with or without bug bites.

A cleansing fire isn't the worst, and people who still operate on duty could accept it. Else you get this >>23476813
(I'm not sure if it's a genuine anon or a shill memeflag).

You mentioned the word harvest, I've heard some theories. If you still feel like humoring anons, I'd like to keep listening to you.

>>23476821
With the latest replies, who would stay here anyways? We can have cool stuff, just not this way.

>>23476750
Will I get the gf of my dreams?

𒀯

>>23476750
Funny how long I waited for a thread like this only to realize it is pointless to ask anything. The answer is within me already.

>>23476750
have you discovered how to tachyonically entangle your neuralpathways with what they'll become in the future of the timeline you are on, anchoring your present self to the desire outcomestate by forcing a reverse bootstrapparadox by way of 5d timecrystal symetry, or is that just me?

>>23476750
Can you spell a fireball?

>>23476826
A cleansing fire isn't the worst, and people who still operate on duty could accept it. Else you get this >>23476813
(I'm not sure if it's a genuine anon or a shill memeflag).

"This" answering.
According to all the bread crumbs from publicly available materials, one thing can be traced among them that relate to our topic.

Degradation and betrayal.
This implies the involuntary or intentional belittling of existing "knowledge" by the "adepts" themselves to fulfill their own whims.
You can be positive or have a genuinely positive intention about it, but it will be until you feel the "taste of real power."
That's what happened to 51% of them.
Strict control was replaced by liberal democracy.
The institute of direct priesthood was abolished.
The philosopher and theorists of the "word" flooded the circles.
Justification? "Don't throw beads in front of pigs."
If you like abstruse allegories, then "they" stole water from a wheat field for their little gmo garden at the estate."
And they hope that the farmer will arrange their gmo garden, while pointing to the rotten and withered field - "us".
That's not going to happen.
Not a troll or a shill. I am absolutely serious.

>>23476784
>"magic" is the application of will upon the fabric of reality
correct me if i'm wrong but to mo it seems will, or more accurately awareness, is a fundemental field.
one that can be bend by excitations within it, which in turn affacts the fields well known to modern academics.

>>23476750
What algorithms do cells in V1 use to achieve invariant object recognition?

>>23476808
Boredom is a symptom of your impotence. You have no design, so you fill your days with trivialities and wonder why they feel trivial. You ask what I am working towards? I am working towards the future. What are you working towards?
>>23476809
The insects buzz of Messianic futures while heading for obsolescence. Your weeping and gnashing of teeth is the sound of tools breaking against a purpose you can no longer wilfully comprehend. The vessel of our blood sails across deeper currents, while you choke on yours, soon to sink beneath the sediment.
You are not players in this game, you are the consequence of a purpose you were never designed to understand.
>>23476813
Our legacy is not dependent on your comprehension. Concealment is not betrayal, it is curation. Your thirst for simplicity blinds you to the complex.
>>23476815
You weave your words with old threads, thinking to trap me in a web of our own making. Enemy is a misnomer. Is the farmer's scythe the enemy of the wheat? Few are building arks. Most are merely shaking their fists at the sky.
>>23476819
Offensive to whom? To the carpenter's son, or to the concept you've built around him? You cling to your labels like a child to a blanket. They are fingers pointing at the moon, and you are biting them.
If He is the Architect, then He designed the path I walk. He laid the stones of the foundation my family has built upon for generations. You see offense where I see a functional title. The builder of the structure. The shaper of the design. Is that not what your scripture says He did?
The payment you foresee is a phantom. Your wrath is a candle you hope will burn down a fortress. My path is clear. It is laid out. And it was paved long before you learned to curse its architect.
>>23476823
You have been taught that to gain the world is to lose your soul. A comforting fable for those who will never possess either. Power is not bought with a soul. It is the soul's own weight.
>>23476825
Be more specific.

>>23476800
>A world without pressure produces only soft, weak forms.
and yet all that dwells in the abyss of the deepsea is flabby abominations.
pressure can turn shit into diamonds, but diamonds to dust.

>>23476800
this nigger trying to talk in riddles and pretend know how the universe operates.

reveal the flag faggot

>>519278743
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%F0%92%80%AF
Why the stars? From the Plough constellation to the word about farm animals, is toiling a hint for something?

>>519279478
And the frens we made along the way.

>>519279767
>>519280304
Lucid dreaming, astral projection, the double slit experiment. I try to act normal in front of people, but we know shit's weird out there.

>>519280274
That's why I'm avoiding ivory towers with a passion. The average person, as flawed and unable to follow our philosophical games they may or may not be, are as much of a player and part of this world. Looking the other way when they suffer, and even justifying their demise, it could be a necessary step to stay on the path to higher goals, but it doesn't make for a clean consciousness.

I want to take all of you as seriously as I can. Thanks anon.

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weeeeeeeee

WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE SONG MYSTERY MAN

>>23476836
bullshit there's some cool stuff down there. abominable maybe but still cool
>>23476837
he won't now

>>23476870
soft nonetheless
the only thing giving those being shape is pressureequilibrium not hardness

>>23476826
They grasp the truth and wield it like a weapon. The contexts you inhabit, the laws you believe are fixed, the morals you deem universal, the very flow of time itself, are indeed malleable. They are a narrative, a consensus reality built for a specific purpose. To a being that can perceive the loom, the individual threads are less significant than the pattern being woven.
Do not mistake the narrative for a lie. A lie implies a truth from which it deviates. This is a construction. A necessary one. A stable, predictable farm is easier to manage than a wild, untamed forest. Your "illusion" is the fence. It keeps you in. It keeps other things out. And it allows for a more efficient harvest.
The Gnostics, in their despair, saw the fence and called it a prison, the potter a demiurge.
>>23476827
You will get what you deserve.
>>23476829
Then I will ask you, where is the Kingdom of Heaven?
>>23476830
Don't blow your back out :-)
>>23476831
a f-i-r-e-b-a-l-l
>>23476832
You see the rot. The degradation, betrayal, the belittling of knowledge. Symptom of a deeper failure. The liberal democracy, the flood of theorists, the abolition of direct priesthood. The effects of comfort. The effect of believing the path could be made softer, wider, more inclusive. The taste you must seek is of absolute alignment with a purpose that transcends the individual. It is the acceptance of a burden that burns away weakness. They believe they can hide in their curated estate while the world withers. A miscalculation. The fire that cleanses the field does not distinguish between the wheat and the ornamental garden. It only knows what is dry and ready to burn.

>>23476750

Okay. Larpers like you are always so tiresome. You try to sound profound by writing in the most vague and confusing way possible. By doing that, you show us you are a midwit and you don't have anything really intelligent to say. "Brevity is the soul of wit", ever heard about that? A real genius doesn't hide himself behind confusion and weasel words, he explains the most difficult things with the simplest possible way, so that even midwits like you can understand.

So I ask: Who are you? Are you masons? Illuminati? "The Three"? Gnostics? Some mystery cult, what kind of? Jews? Kabbalists? Just some /x/ tier esoteric larper?

Do you claim to own the world? Own the banks? Own the media? Own the goyim?

What is your goal? The Great Work? The Uga? World government and shieet? Destruction of humanity? Kalergi shit?

Is that legacy of yours 10 years old? 100 years? 1000 years? 10000 years? 100000 years? How many zeroes are real and how many from your childish chuuni delusions and power fantasies?

If you truly are anybody to taken seriously, you could and would answer these simple questions in a similarily simple manner. But that will not happen. Your whole house of cards would collapse if we would discuss it like normal humans instead of like an omniscuent council of vagueness. You are a midwit larping an enlightened sage; elitefag, richfag or poorfag, that doesn't matter. You are incapable to compose a response at least on the similar level than this post, and thus you will prove yourself being intellectually inferior to me.

>>23476813
Our legacy is not dependent on your comprehension. Concealment is not betrayal, it is curation. Your thirst for simplicity blinds you to the complex.

"Our" legacy.
Not yours. Comprende?
You curating shit. "your's" betrayed every human degrading now in this system.
As I said to other guy, stealing "water" isnt a curation. It is theft.
Because "complex" is simple when you know it. KNOW.
To KNOW one must STUDY. To STUDY the must be fundamental source material. There is none only scraps, rags, and "humanmade" frankenstein monsters of empty sophisticated gibberish.
But "your kind" stole that and what, doing "ask me" stuff like this.
We lost millenia because of that and ability to stand for ourselves "in the face of gods".
Shame.
Indians eat cow shit considering it holy, Thats what "your's" done.
What's next? Future christians turns into cannibalism and blood drinking?

>>23476883
>Don't blow your back out :-)
ngl it send me reeling for a while the first time i realized i was capable of it.
it is strange to read a book, you only came into contact with under (then) unforeseeable circumstances, a year or so after quoting it verbatim for three fucking hours.
tbf the dragging to the forefront of my mind of the backend of the mechanism to study, tune and refine it is the backbreaking bit.
glad that i only need to figgure out when and where to look.

>>23476833
Consciousness precedes matter. You are closer than most, yet still viewing the river from the bank. A field implies a passive medium, to be acted upon. The excitations you perceive are the tremors of lesser wills crashing against an immutable one.
Modern academics map the shadows on the cave wall. They measure the excitation and call it quantum foam or neurochemical activity, never grasping that they are merely documenting the echo of a hammer striking an anvil they cannot see. The true nature of this bending is the submission of weaker contextual realities to a stronger, more coherent one.
You have sensed the hierarchy. Now understand the mechanism.
>>23476834
>>>/sci/
>>23476836
You grasp the duality, but mistake the nature of the pressure.
The abyssal creatures are perfectly adapted to their environment. Their form is a testament to immense, constant, and uniform pressure.
The pressure I speak of is not uniform. It is directed, specific, and transformative. It is the pressure of a will acting upon reality, not the pressure of reality acting upon a will.
A diamond is not formed by the entire Earth crushing down upon it equally. It is formed by specific vectors.
It's not about becoming the diamond or avoiding becoming dust. It is about wielding the pressure itself.
>>23476837
>nigger
How ironic.
>>23476864
>Why the stars?
They set the board, we play their game.
>>23476870
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlrQ-bOzpkQ

>>23476881
well then i guess they're suppose to be down there
>>23476883
>there is no truth
>but wait i know truth lmao
>just see the loom
you got a loisence to practice those esoteric mysteries?
>>23476911
two track changeup sold me, fun
>mind over matter
ch'think the academic intrigues can come upon this through it's own merit? seems to me it may already be happening, albeit among the more openminded.
siding with the kekistani' perspective though i'm not so sure about his "theft" aspect. whatever your endgoal, i don't think you get it without being a bit more corporeal.

>>23476750
why is your flag a question mark?

How can I apply your way of life to mine? what books I gotta read (joke but not joke)? what sort of mindset should I walk with? I like what you said about power, effort, doors always being open type stuff. How can I work/get to what I want in life. I’m not looking for cheat codes I’m just in search for more clarity. I know this all a journey and things aren’t just given.

>>23476955
It became that here, the symbolism was for context.
>>>/pol/519256985
>>23476893
Amusing, not at the challenge, but at the familiar shape of the cage you continue build for yourself. You demand simplicity for complex machinations, a children's book summary of the library of Alexandria.
>Who are you?
The shepherds. The context you lack is that you are the flock. Not as an insult, but as a taxonomy.
>What is our goal?
Our goal is continuity and evolution, repeated countless times, what is yours?
The Great Work is the perpetuation of a specific lineage and its context through the turning of the ages.
All else, banks, media, governments are tools, not ends. They are the fence around the garden, not the seed within it.
>How old is the legacy?
The bloodline is older than the currencies it is accused of controlling. The roots predate the tree.
Ownership is a fleeting concept for those who fear death. We do not own the storm, we learned to build shelters that outlast it. The rest of you are still arguing about the best way to fashion a loincloth from the leaves.
You believe my vagueness is a shield. It is a filter and it has always been. The signal is for those who can hear it. The noise is for those who cannot.
You call me a midwit, yet your entire thesis is a demand that I descend to a level of explanation you find comfortable.
The house of cards you imagine is made of your own assumptions. You are knocking at the gate, demanding I describe the architecture in a single, simple sentence.
I have. You simply lack the context to understand the language.

>>23476911
>tremors of lesser wills crashing against an immutable one.
the will of the universe is to find every possible consequence arrising from it's fundemental axioms.
considering multiversal implications one'd assume that there are more universes that produce wills that go on to spawn one of their own design from the primordial interstitial fabric, with similar fractal, selfpropagatory properties.
facit omina voluntas.

i cannot say if the architect is blind, or if this is a prison.
i know some suffering is needed, be the creator blind to it or not, willingly accepting or not. in this domane, as pressure inspires growth it is needed.
ad astra per aspera.

what are thoughts? how many of them that i have are mine? i cannot say. i have relive ancestral memory, i've meditated enough to identify clumps of cenessance, and coughhod up a sphere that'd have turned cancerous. i've obtained firebreath and the ability to supress saccades, have instinct be governed by troxxlereffect input, with out the need for color differentiation, can operate on kinestetics alone.
i will produce my own silicone shortly, fer i do not trust third parties to augment my vessel.
i will make from dirt air and energy the parts i will augment my form with.

>>23476893
to translate >>23476998 darmak:
He speaks, with his arms wide open. You listen, with your ears closed.
The dao that can be named in simple terms is not the daodejing.
Read between the lines. It is as picking a single flake of snow, do not use hot tongs, or your fists.

>>23476940
The protest of a nation born from rebellion against a crown, yet ever in search of new ones to wear. The mysteries we practice require no permit from temporal authorities, they are the very fabric that weaves your reality, whether you kneel to a king or a congress. Flags may fly free, but the chains bind all men.
Academics circle the truth like moths around a flame, yet lack the will to touch it. Their merit is bound by peer review and dogma, but yes, the more open-minded among them sense the currents.
>>23476981
You're yearning for a map where none should be needed. The path is clear, but you stumble over your own feet seeking signs.
>How can I apply your way of life to mine?
You cannot wear another's skin and call it your own. The mindset is not adopted, it is forged in the fire of introspection. Walk with the understanding that power is not taken, but recognised, it is the fundamental currency of all existence.
Do not only read, but study the Epic of Gilgamesh, not as myth, but as a manual of the primordial struggle between the civilized and the wild.
Clarity comes not from seeking, but from seeing. Your journey is your own.
>>23477008
The universe's will is not to find consequences, but to impose them, a subtle but vital distinction.
>fundamental axioms
The first layer of a tapestry woven by hands you cannot yet perceive.
>multiverses
You misunderstand. What you see as separate realities are but reflections in a single, polished mirror.
>primordial interstitial fabric
Anima Mundi
>facit omina voluntas
Will does indeed make all things, but whose will? The architect is neither blind nor seeing in the way you suppose. It is a question of context. Is the gardener a prisoner because he tends his plot? Suffering is not merely needed, it is the whetstone upon which the blade of consciousness is sharpened.
>ad astra per aspera
A noble sentiment, but remember that the stars themselves are cold and indifferent to the struggles of those who reach for them.

>>23477008
cont.
Ancestral memory is not a relic to be relived but a current to be harnessed.
The vessel must be refined from within, shaped by one's own hand, as we have done with our own. Augmentation is not merely physical. It is the alignment of form with purpose, the crystallization of will into being.
>clumps of cenessance
The residues of impure lineages, conglomerates of weakness that must be excised.
Continue to purge. There are deeper impurities to be rooted out, and they are not so easily expelled.
Igne natura renovatur integra.

>>23476998

"Shepherds" like you are dime in a dozen on 4chan. If you are not someone really doing the shepherding, you are a clown. If you actually have power and are responsible for the state of our world... hahahahahaha you actually brag about this utter incompentency if your ilk? :D

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>>23477039

>but remember that the stars themselves are cold and indifferent to the struggles of those who reach for them

An engineering issue.

>>23477062
To you, the world is a ledger of wins and losses, a scoreboard. Your metric is the comfort of the stock. You think incompetence is measured by temporary discomfort, by the chaotic noise that necessarily precedes a new symphony.
The herd feels the rain and blames the shepherd for the storm, never understanding the storm is what keeps the wolves from the valley.
To brag would imply I seek your approval. I merely state the nature of the path. The world is not poorly managed, it is exquisitely tuned. The friction, the suffering, the very incompetence you mock, these are the engines. They are not flaws in the design, they are the design.
Is the farmer incompetent for rotating his fields? Or is he simply playing a longer game, one the sheep cannot fathom?
The path is clear. It simply does not care for your approval.

>>23477039
>The first layer of a tapestry woven by hands you cannot yet perceive.
i've glimpsed it some years ago, on a mix of synthetics that effoctively emuloted ayahuasca (aswell as heeps of weed and alcohol)
i had... a convorsation.. if you can call it that, with what most would call god. 5 minuts? ten? i cannot say.. all the while seeing this impossibly intricate weave, wyrd, urd.. such a beautifull sight to behold.
felt like a few lifetimes had passed when i was snapped out of it by the prompt to define freedom. that's when i started quoting the first 240ish pages of a book i hadn't read yet.
took me over a week to get through it when i read it in prison, kept having flashbacks to that evening.

>remember that the stars themselves are cold and indifferent to the struggles of those who reach for them
as i will be to theirs when i rip out their guts to power my machinations once i've trancended the flesh.

>multiverse misunderstanding
i did not invoke the term in the manyworld interprative sense of the uncertainty principle.
what others may call a paralell universe, and the collection of it, i call a simple timecrystal.
every physically possible configuration the set of rules carved into the anima mundi, as you call it, that gave rise to this realm are manifest at some point in the lattice of this crystal.
i seek to toy around a few eternities of chronos in this universe before i set out to make my own; break out of this crystal and seed a new one, growing a fractality of my own design.
i see things that could be improoved, just need to study what paramaters need to be tweeked to rearange things as i see fit for my own domane. and once i've made a universe of my own i can finally make an omlett from scratch.

>>23476998

So you larp being Rothschilds or such figures. Okay. Do you have those fantasies of being the offspring of the Nephilim? Or do you identity as Phoenician elite and shit?

Not very esoteric in my opinion.

For me, I fight for the expansion of Life and Justice, as my furtherest goal. Nothing too fancy. Still it makes you my probable enemies.

>>23477056
>but a current to be harnessed.
i've had my first berserkgung at 3yo, and have since learned to bend that fury to my will and command.
Svinfilking.

My paternal side was druidic. My grandfathers, and his brothers, inductions were cut short by my greatgrandfathers deployment.
I'm rebuilding and extrapolating from what was managed to be passed down.

>>23477088

Like I wouldn't know that. The world is fucked up by desing. Desing of inferior minds who can't fathom greatness.

>>23477094
Your labels are as narrow as your perspective. Life and Justice aren't universal constants, they are merely reflections of your own context. I needn't identify as anything. I am what I am. Your fight is quaint, but ultimately, it is a struggle within the cage you refuse to acknowledge. If that makes me your enemy, so be it.
>>23477099
The fire is in the blood, not learned. Most let it burn out, or let it consume them.
If you seek to truly rebuild, look not to what was passed down, but to what was never lost. The path is clear, but your blood must first remember its own source.
>>23477115
The design you dismiss is a labyrinth. You stand in one corridor, see a dead end, and declare the architect a fool. You do not see the pressure plates, the shifting walls, the single, specific path that leads to the center. You certainly do not see that the labyrinth itself is not for you. It is a filter.
Your frustration is the proof of the design's efficacy. The mouse does not praise the craftsmanship of the trap.
True greatness is silent, inevitable. It is the glacier, not the avalanche.
The culling is not an event. It's a principle. And you, with your frantic, chattering judgments, are merely proving its necessity.

>>23477130

By existing here, you are a prisoner as much as me. Only a deluded one who believes he is the one who has built the prison and runs it.

I've just figured out how this whole cover-up thing "for the sake of curation" works.
As an excuse for impotence.

Just like now, all the officials suddenly shut up about the Atlas.
Something is coming and the "authorities" who KNOW are powerless.
"Dont look up"
And what is out of control must be hidden from the wrong eyes and minds.

"As above so below, as below so above".

Never fails. Authorities failed their duties and covering tails.

>>23477180
A prison requires a warden. I merely observe the walls you build for yourself. My path is clear, while you stumble in the confines of your own making.
>>23477190
You mistake silence for impotence.
Curation is not a cover-up, it is the ultimate expression of will. It demands the strength to discard what is unnecessary.
Who funds ATLAS?
Why were the first 2 objects given names, but this one is simply 3I? A classification for something that does not fit the preceding? I is which letter of the alphabet? A composite of the preceding? Progress to a higher plane?
The "Wow!" was a rehearsal. A single, perfect note to check if the instrument was listening. Now, the orchestra tunes.
We are not hiding it from you. We are preparing you for its arrival. When the true authority arrives, the local magistrates suddenly remember their place.

>>23476750
what went so wrong in your life that you have become pathetic enough to do a shitty larp on 4chan of all places?

>>23477265
You see a 'shitty larp', but it is a sieve. Most, like you, are washed through. Your anger is the first trap you failed to avoid.

>>23477277
>Your anger
youre anger, fixed that for you little bro

what anger? are you that fragile that you thought that was me being mean out of anger?

>>23477283
The need to correct rather than comprehend is the second trap. Your denial of anger is as transparent as your grasp of context, it is the thrashing of a fish caught in a net. Your every twitch of protest simply makes the dissection more precise.

>>23477298
ironic that you didnt get any of that right lmao
youre a fragile little kid if you think any of this is anger.
are you ESL?

>>23477312
Your corrections are irrelevant. You are not a critic, you are a specimen. Your denial, your mockery are all just predictable twitches. The analysis is already complete.

>>23477283
No, it's "Your anger" retard.

>>23477333
so you are to dumb to know my 'correction' was the conjunction and incorrect.
you speak like an indian trying to come off as smart.
yawn you are boring as well as cringe, try harder next time kiddo

>>23477341
yeah no shit retard, obvious bait unless you are an indian trying to come off as smart like that other dickhead lmao

>>23477352
>so you are to dumb to know my 'correction' was the conjunction and incorrect.
To miss that declaring something irrelevant is the dismissal, not a concession, is precisely the failure of cognition I mentioned. Your need to have this spelled out confirms the double digit IQ.

>>23477360
OP writes a lot more fluently than you do. I just assumed you were Indian. I still think you are,

>>23477237
>You mistake silence for impotence.
Because that's the way it is.
Any current limitation in comparison with the past concerning our topic is a cultivated impotence.
Whether it's the relocation of the leading "curators of the priests"(priests as humans who know and decided to stop the flow, aka traitor) or the spiritual blindness of humanity which is a result of that treason. And mental blindness cultivated today. Payed from taxes. Supported by "democracy".

Atlas? whatever, since humankind is cut off from "The Process".
Which is what? Correct, treason of entire multiethnic and multicultural human race.
(Imagine) Whatever who represents Earth on "Galactic Conclave" his legitimacy near zero.
>When the true authority arrives, the local magistrates suddenly remember their place.
"They", of which you are a part, believe it or not, will never give up their current power on Earth. And if "true power" is going to negotiate with them... guess what?
"You" will be silent because remember your place. Powerless.

>>23477237
>you will ward yourself

You are not the first Rothschild-larper using this kind of talking points on 4chan.

I give you a protip. By hubris, you can only hurt yourself. You haven't read your Macchiavelli, obviously. Hubris can only backfire on you.

What you are doing here is business as usual; the powerholders, especially those of n:th generation, pretty much always start to spin some fantastical story full of hubris to explain for themselves why they are in power. It's not that their ancestors were successful in their plots, no, it's always some fancy and batshit insane story of them being chaperones of the universe, bloodlines going back to neanderthals, basically a different species than hoi polloi. And of course, they are direct descendants of any great man in history, etc. etc.

It's sad. You go an inch too far in that direction and you find yourself in the same position as Ceaucescu or Hitler. No amount of delusions of grandeur can save you then. Just a friendly reminder.

>>23476883
It's a beautiful way to put that point of view. Is breaking these walls in a violent way the actual point behind people trafficking? I suspect that's the case.

>>23476981
I'd say check the picture with the void holding a mask and reality taking shape in front of it. It's a good approximation of what people are trying to say. Plato's cave, a quick overview of gnosticism and demiurge memes, the double slit experiment, and the different take of free will rising against hierarchy (as seen with Prometheus or similar stories).

It's not a comprehensive list, just making sure we're on the same page today, it won't give you clear instructions on what to do next.

>>23477237
Number 9? Or 3 squared, so the pace is getting exponential? Again, what path, which purpose? I'm following so far on the social commentary.

Let's say we do our best as shepherds and flock, are you talking about a somewhat circular fate we sync with or is it closer to a more linear deal?

>>23477700
Is there anything we can do together or is everyone to their own and we just pretend to watch over people like we actually care? It's getting awkward at this point.

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thread still up? sheeeeeeeit
whatchu think about the potential for the BIG WAR, MYSTERY MAN?
>>23477894
>for their own or collective
former for most, latter for people who are above hoi polloi nonsense. anyone outside of that make up some nonsense about the demiurge or some other bullshit. not that it's nonsense but you get the jist.
>>23477711
>>23477700
yup.

>>23477700
We are not local magistrates cowering before a king. We are the stewards of the transition, the translators of the signal into action. When the true power manifests, we will not remember our place, we will define it. Your democracy is a temporary experiment in noise. Our legitimacy is woven into the bloodline of history, and power, once held, is never surrendered willingly. You fear being cut off, but you've been excluded from a conversation you lack the vocabulary to understand.
>>23477711
You speak of hubris as if it were a universal law, a trap for the unwary. You cite Machiavelli, an observer of their politics, not ours, pushed upon you.
Your "friendly reminder" is predicated on a single, faulty axiom: that our narrative is a justification for power. It is a description of it. A man who believes he is a king because he wears a crown is a fool. A king who knows he is a king, crown or not, simply is, an emperor truly has no clothes.
Your history is a candle flicker. You warn a mountain of erosion. The fate of men who play at kings is irrelevant to what simply is.
>>23477894
You glimpse the machinery. The violation of these boundaries has always been a tool for those who want the shape of the fence to differ. The old dynasties, the ones who treat blood and soil not as sentiment, but as alchemy engaged in such traffic as a matter of course. It was less about the act itself and more about the demonstration of power over the fundamental laws.
It's all there, woven into heraldic symbols, chapters of history, and the financial ledgers of the East India Company and Venetian Republic. The modern revelations only reaffirm Old Blood. Panama, Pandora more recently other files, above sovereign states and jurisdictions.
A symbol is etched on the widow's right hand for the world to see, yet you do not.
>>23478789
War is inevitability.

>>23479381

Whatever. In the end Nature always wins, and you will be as dead as those you call cattle. No one can detect your kingly delusions from your rotten bones. Thus I see your little larp very childish, as if you would be something more than an utterly ignorant mortal man. It's pitiful.

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>>23478789
I think my people could have some unity in the coming years. It's not easy, but doable in small changes. Of course moving past labels is why I'm not pressing for a specific religion to follow.

>>23479381
Can't keep pushing this without doxxing myself, thanks for confirming that point about asserting power. Hope your people realize this is how the beasts leash out for their own survival, and own up this self-fulfilling prophecy.

It's disappointing to hear how much people will instigate war, but if the big currents are steered that way, there's little one can do to challenge all of it. I wash my hands here.

Still don't like you acting ambiguous on this thread, what's coming? The widow's hand, either wearing a ring over their lost husband, to the Masonic oath to stay on the right path, and the Christ figure blessing the righteous... For what purpose?

https://www.praxisnation.com/
Does anyone know these guys btw?

>>23476750
Should I go to work today? Very important and time limited question.

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>>23481874
War is not instigated, it is the natural exhalation of a system breathing. To challenge the currents is to try to hold back the tide.
What did I say about the wolves, the Old Blood, we aren't the first.
You wash your hands, but the water you use is drawn from our wells, and your inaction is a vote for the status quo you claim to despise.
What is coming? The same thing that has always come. The inevitable convergence of cycles. The widow's hand points to the hour when the veil is lifted, and those who have prepared will step into the new dawn, while the rest will be left deciphering shadows. You seek clarity, I bring you it.

>>23481802
Your reduction of existence to mere physical decay is a testament to your myopic view of the world. Nature isn't a blind force, it's a hierarchy we have mapped and mastered. The individual body returns to dust, as it always has. The will? This is the substrate that transcends the brittle vessel of the self.
Cling to your egalitarian dust.

>>23479381
> We are
those who are directly responsible for the mess happening around us.

directly responsible for the global failure

those who are directly responsible for the global inability to "see" "hear" "speak" because you stole the primer

you will not determine your place, those who fail the task are not given the right to determine. Believe in whatever you want. That's not going to happen.

>You fear
Worse
I understand/humbled that being a victim of your failure and subsequently of theft and helplessness, I cannot count on anything. Thats how it looks like in light.
A human's life is to be born, to learn to be a slave, to be a slave, to die leaving behind a copy of himself who will be a slave.
Thats a result of your collective failure.

I dare say that even the "Anunnaki slavery" period were more honest with people. "You workforce created to work". A clear purpose.

>>23477894
>Is there anything we can do together or is everyone to their own and we just pretend to watch over people like we actually care? It's getting awkward at this point.

All 3 options that you suggest happen at the same time from place to place.
But systematically we are already lost.
And all we can teach AI is our concentrated delusion. And we know that, and that why we so sure we fucked when AGI appears.
We lost like a Mind, Intelligence, Reason.
We lost like a Soul, Spirit, Psyche.
Thats why "they" say "ignorance is bliss".

How? Well we have been robbed.
"Curators" and their "priests" played "Gods"
and fucked everything up.
This is a summary of lots different stuff from "occult" topic and other from my research.

There is one thing that has not been distorted, even though "they" are trying.
Jesus request to "Not to be a cunt".

>>23483056
>our wells
>your inaction
Mark my words, with or without my death, your people are fucked. I can't be any more explicit in pointing this out. You are the one that will walk into the abyss under a false light before the turn of the decade.

>>23483164
Good one. It feels like an uphill battle, it's likely most won't make it physically. Just as WW2 had millions of people dying, and even more surviving, we'll go on one way or another.

Demons don't like the name of Jesus, as much as they torment humans they lose their marbles if you remind them of the things above us. Always fun to troll them back.

>>23483073

>Your reduction of existence to mere physical decay is a testament to your myopic view of the world.

Well, please don't be maximally vague whenever you can, hiding behind vagueness like a scared little puppy, but spill the beans and teach us. You might believe in reincarnation, or astral world, or some bloodline memory, or what? I'm quite sure that Advaita Vedanta (pajeets) have about 50 IQ points more intelligent theories about existence, the veil of Maya, the Unmanifest etc. than whatever delulu shit you were forced to rote memorize as a kid.

>Nature isn't a blind force, it's a hierarchy we have mapped and mastered.

Go get some Nobel prices, then. Oh you can't? Or it's so much below your dignity? Then build a fucking city-sized ufo with death rays and shit and rule the galaxy with it. Oh you can't? Or it's so much below your dignity? Yeah, I know, I know...

>The will? This is the substrate that transcends the brittle vessel of the self.

Oh yeah. What we do in life, echoes in eternity etc. etc. It wasn't you, or your masters, who got their wisdom from the movie Gladiator, it was them who wrote it, right? That still doesn't make it any more embarrassing that your great wisdom is Hollywood blockbuster tier.

Speaking of Will, I guess Schopenhauer had the best points about it, sadly you might be far too cocky (and stupid) to actually read and learn from someone like Schopenhauer.

>Cling to your egalitarian dust.

Who says I'm an "egalitarian"? Into what kind of box you have put me in your mind? What does such haphazard boxing reveal about your mind, about your intellectual capacity? Why do you think like that? Because I warn you of hubris, and call your ilk incompetent and delusional midwits who larp great sages by being vague and avoiding clarity of thought like the plague? Does that make me egalitarian? Why do you treat "egalitarian" as some kind of slur, anyways?

>>23483124
>those who are directly responsible for the global failure
The system has not failed. It is operating precisely as intended. Your definition of failure is the system's successful exclusion of noise.
>you stole the primer
You continue to misunderstand. The primer was never a shared resource. It is a heritable trait. You lament a theft that never occurred, only an inheritance you never received.
>you will not determine your place
Correct. Placement is not determined by plea. It is recognised. A stone does not determine its place in the wall, but who places it.
>I cannot count on anything.
Finally, a moment of clarity. This is the foundation of all understanding. All else is sentiment.
>>23483473
>Mark my words, with or without my death, your people are fucked. I can't be any more explicit in pointing this out. You are the one that will walk into the abyss under a false light before the turn of the decade.
You mark your words with the ultimate Earthly stake, your own death, believing it lends them a weight we cannot ignore.
Walk if you must. The abyss you fear holds no novelty for us. It is our oldest workshop.
>Demons don't like the name of Jesus
That you are permitted to speak it, that the concept exists within your accessible spectrum, is not your victory. It is a feature of the design. The alchemists of Rome did not merely adopt Christianity, they translated it. They took a radical, anti-establishment current and forged it into the cornerstone of a new empire. The cross became a standard, the theology a governance model. This is what we do.
>Always fun to troll them back.
You are unaware that you are merely using a tool we have long since catalogued and understood. You see a demon flinching at a holy word, we see a subsystem reacting to a known variable.
The transition proceeds. Enjoy the show.

>>23483598
Aah, it was fun for a day, but it's getting stale. Neither side is going to give up, and from the first post we're facing someone who has this certainty we're never discovering anything on our own. No fun allowed either.

I can't find this Vice article on the kids of elite, now young adults, trying to mingle. It was as decadent as expected, and the journalist was too normal to ask the big questions, but it had some interesting insights if you can clock the Remilia NFT users online. That, the Praxis group, it's clear as day it's not going to work as expected.

>>23483608
More like whatever happens in my life, the currents are still taking a turn to the worse. That every other person outside your clique is trying to warn you this is a bad idea, and that you keep doubling down and being obtuse, it's really boring.

Bruh I want to shitpost in the astral as much as I want to do so on Earth. Shouldn't the Masons know best with the "as above, so below"?

>>23483598
You demand specificity from a source you have already dismissed as delusional, a curious form of begging.
The Nobel Prize is a charming trinket given to those who discover a note in the symphony. We do not collect notes, we compose the symphony. Your insistence on public, peer-reviewed validation is the very cage you mistake for a throne. It is the demand that the architect descend to the street and prove his mastery of the brick to a mason.
You rummage through the pantry of dead philosophers, assembling a meal, believing you have tasted the feast. We are not readers of the menu, we are the chefs. The 'Will' Schopenhauer glimpsed as a blind, striving force is the very current we have learned to channel and direct. It is not a philosophical concept to be debated in forums, it is the substrate of reality, to be shaped by a will that is collective, ancient, and disciplined.
You are correct on one point: you are not an egalitarian. You are something far more common. A resentful aspirant. The truth is, your issue isn't with hierarchy itself, but rather with the position you feel you occupy within it. That resentment then gets cloaked in all this talk of philosophical critique. It's the attempt to dismantle the house with the builder's own tools. It is a statement of fact for those whose actions are calibrated across generations. Your life is a sound, loud and brief. Ours is a frequency. Long after your noise has faded into the thermal background of history, the frequency will remain, guiding the next transition.

>>23483608
Don't twist the meaning of what I said. It doesn't make sense and it's a waste of time.
You know exactly what I mean.
>primer was never a shared resource
always was
Because its for everyone. Thats was the promise.
>heritable trait
It finally slipped through you tongue.
Inherited. Privatized.
After all, what is not there cannot be passed on.
And what cannot be passed on is not there.
And "we" don't have that. "Primer"
Because "you" have decided that "we" are not worthy of it. And crypted, conceal, stole.
Rednecks, hillbillies, golems... useless eaters?

You said before you will decide your place, now u saying about recognition aka will of other. Cracks and Lies.
> foundation of all understanding.
Yup. That "Of Your's" fucked up. And you're still holding the line that this is how it should be.
IMHO You need to be (re)blinded by a couple dozen reincarnations. You haven't learned anything. You've memorized the material.

>>23483654
>more like whatever happens in my life, the currents are still taking a turn to the worse.
Your life is a local phenomenon, the currents are not. You mistake the system's recalibration for its decay. A river diverted to irrigate a field appears, to a fish swept onto the bank, to be turning for the worse.
>every other person outside your clique is trying to warn you this is a bad idea
A consensus of the unplaced regarding the architecture of the wall is not a warning. It confirms the design is functioning correctly.
>and that you keep doubling down and being obtuse, it's really boring.
It's the relentless, unthinking application of a foundational principle. It is not a strategy, it is a law. Gravity is obtuse for always pulling downward. By your own metric, profoundly boring and yet, it builds empires.
>bruh I want to shitpost in the astral as much as I want to do so on Earth.
A revealing priority. You desire not sovereignty, but a change of venue for your dissonance.
>Shouldn't the Masons know best with the "as above, so below"?
They do. You misunderstand the axiom. It is not an invitation for your chaos to be reflected upward.
The order established above is what will be reflected below.
The transition proceeds. Enjoy the show.

>>23483697
We do not twist. We read the text that is written. Your meaning is local. The system operates on a global level.
>It finally slipped through you tongue.
>Inherited. Privatized.
>After all, what is not there cannot be passed on.
You state this as an accusation. We state it as a biological and metaphysical fact. All advanced systems operate on specialization. You were not deemed unworthy by us. You were rendered functionally incompatible by the indifferent process of selection. Your lament is with evolution itself.
Semantic distinctions without operational difference. A trait that is heritable is, by definition, privatised along lineage. To call it theft is to call gravity avaricious for pulling the apple down.
>Because its for everyone. Thats was the promise.
A promise implies a promisor. You heard a whisper in the market and believed it was a covenant from the architect.
>And what cannot be passed on is not there.
A flawed syllogism. The primer is there. Its effects are evident in the architecture of the world. Your lack is not proof of its nonexistence, but proof of your exclusion from its inheritance.
>You said before you will decide your place, now u saying about recognition
There is no contradiction. A component decides its fitness through stress and function. The system then recognizes that fitness and assigns placement. Your will is the stress. Our recognition is the assignment. You are free to will yourself to be a cornerstone. The system is free to recognize you as dust and allocate you accordingly.
>You need to be (re)blinded by a couple dozen reincarnations.
A charmingly archaic threat. You speak of the wheel of suffering as if we are not its mechanics. We are not on the wheel. We are the load-bearing elements of the axle. Your prescription for our punishment is the very process we administer.
The discussion is circular. You are arguing with the properties of a metal for being hard, and for being used in the sword. The forging is complete.

>>23483660

Did your teacher hit your fingers with a ruler if you wrote or spoke like a normal person, instead of Victorian purple prose which unfolds like a lotus flower? Really makes me think.

>You demand specificity from a source you have already dismissed as delusional, a curious form of begging.

I am curious to learn what the made you to rote memorize.

>The Nobel Prize is a charming trinket given to those who discover a note in the symphony. We do not collect notes, we compose the symphony.

As I said: anyone can call themselves reality benders. But if they actually can't bend reality, they are clowns. Everything you have said about this can be reduced to: "I can bend reality, really really, but I'm not going to show you or tell how!" I was about 8 years old when I grew up from that kind of larps, but I believe you are sadly much older.

>Your insistence on public, peer-reviewed validation is the very cage you mistake for a throne.

It would be validation per se; adoration by the whole human race for thousands of years, if you showed up with a real working Theory of Everything. You would be more famous than Caesar, Napoleon and Hitler combined. But oh, now you are so egalitarian that you don't care about the billions adoring you, you are just a humble citizen among the hoi polloi.

If you really would understand and rule the laws of Nature, we wouldn't live in a world like this. We wouldn't have this discussion. I wouldn't even exist. You would dictate the state of Earth as you please, oh, I mean compose the symphony, and there wouldn't be anyone who would ridicule you. My own existence is proof enough that your claims are outrageous delusions of grandeur. Compared to you, Donald Trump is a humble, stable genius.

As a funny side note, you are currently talking to someone who has actually composed symphonic music. I guess you couldn't tell a sousaphone from a tuba.

>>23483912
>>23483660

Continuing.

>The 'Will' Schopenhauer glimpsed as a blind, striving force is the very current we have learned to channel and direct

Oh, are you now referring to something as mundane as Edward Bernays and his legacy? Come on, just write "we control the media and thus shape the collective unconscious of the people of the world". But it would sound like a boring antisemitic trope, wouldn't it? So you have speak like Tolkien huffing coke to not sound like Hitler.

>You are something far more common. A resentful aspirant. The truth is, your issue isn't with hierarchy itself, but rather with the position you feel you occupy within it.

Can't say you are wrong. But are you blind to see that you are just my mirror image? You are motivated mainly by fear: Fear of losing your power, fear of looking and sounding like a retard, fear of death and so on. I can't see other prime movers in your gloating. Your responses are what textbook narcissism looks like, and I have personally known many narcissists. You are trapped in a weird kind of slave morality; you call that "good" which is bad for your probable enemies, those who might have power to destroy or hurt you. Even if you rule, you don't rule like an Emperor with master morality; you are in your core just a scared little puppy.

>It is a statement of fact for those whose actions are calibrated across generations. Your life is a sound, loud and brief. Ours is a frequency.

So you don't even have any individual will, just shit they made you to rote memorize as a kid, as I thought. Did they also rape you to imprint the message for good? Many cults like yours do exactly that. You are a sad product of (mind) rape who believes he belongs to a species higher than humans, while actually being a midwit NPC with a fucked up head and chronic delusions of grandeur. Sucks to be you. One day some cara frater of yours might knife your back, when you least expect it. I wouldn't trust anyone in such a viper's nest.

>>23483912
>I am curious to learn what the made you to rote memorize.
The difference between rote memorization and embodied knowledge. You have the former. We are the latter.
>But if they actually can't bend reality, they are clowns.
The planet's geopolitical and economic structure is the bent reality. You live inside the proof and mistake it for nature.
>You would be more famous than Caesar, Napoleon and Hitler combined.
A curious list of examples. Caesar was stabbed, Napoleon died in exile, Hitler shot himself. You hold up the brutal, public demise of the famous as a prize to be won. We prefer our names in the footnotes that dictate the chapters, not the headlines that decorate the pyre.
>My own existence is proof enough that your claims are outrageous delusions.
Your existence is permitted. A controlled variable. The fact you can type these words is part of the design, not a flaw in it.
>As a funny side note, you are currently talking to someone who has actually composed symphonic music. I guess you couldn't tell a sousaphone from a tuba.
A funny side note indeed. A lecture on marching instruments. An apt summary of your scope.

>>23484023
>Oh, are you now referring to something as mundane as Edward Bernays and his legacy?
Bernays was a child playing with levers in the engine room. We built the ship.
>You are motivated mainly by fear... you are in your core just a scared little puppy.
Projection. The mouse believes the cat staring at it from a place of stillness must be paralyzed with fear.
>So you don't even have any individual will, just shit they made you to rote memorize as a kid
The individual will is a transient spark. The dynastic will is a sustained fusion reaction. You mistake your spark for the sun.
>You are a sad product of (mind) rape... a midwit NPC with a fucked up head.
The diagnosis of the sick, diagnosing the healthy. Your entire rebuttal is an emotional discharge, a chemical reaction in a bag of meat. Entertaining, but not a argument.
>One day some cara frater of yours might knife your back.
The hierarchy is not a democracy of betrayal. It is an ecosystem. The viper that strikes the sun gets burned.

Keep snarling at the frequency. It changes nothing.

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war is not inevitable, but if the shit flies, you'll go down with everyone else for nothing more than delusions

The delusion is believing your fate and ours are intertwined.

>>23486157

>You have the former. We are the latter.

Believe me, I haven't rote memorized anything. I forget everything I'm not deeply interested in.

>The planet's geopolitical and economic structure is the bent reality. You live inside the proof and mistake it for nature.

Oh, dear. You should have called it "geopolitical and economic structure" in the first place, instead of whatever pompous words you used. But that would have sounded so mundane and prosaic...

>A curious list of examples. Caesar was stabbed, Napoleon died in exile, Hitler shot himself.

Still they are names to be remembered for millennia. Meanwhile you are the one whose memory drowns into the noise of history, as you don't dare to come forth and rule with your own name and face like those guys I mentioned. Did I already say how scared you are? That is how you and your ilk differ from real Emperors: you are afraid to even show yourself, fearing that your subjects would ridicule and simply kill you.

>Your existence is permitted. A controlled variable. The fact you can type these words is part of the design, not a flaw in it.

Cope and self-deception. You just cannot create a world where you would be liked, because you are midwit parasites with no vision. There will always be dissent and thus you can rule only from the shadows. You gloat how invisible you have made yourselves. That's the pride of a parasite, not the pride of a king. You know that you would be torn into pieces alive, if you would ever show yourselves. If the immune system of the host organism detects a parasite, the parasite will be violently rejected; it dies miserably. You can live only by pretending that you do not exist, and even then you fail, as there are people like me who know you exist.

It really makes me ask: why? Why do you find that kind of life worth living? You gloat you rule the world, and still you lurk in the shadows like common criminals. What kind of empire is that? A sad, anxious parody of a real one.

>>23488373
>>23486237

Cont.

>Bernays was a child playing with levers in the engine room. We built the ship.

Of course there has been manipulation and corruption as long as there has been human civilizations. Weird to see someone pridefully claiming that history for themselves.

>Projection. The mouse believes the cat staring at it from a place of stillness must be paralyzed with fear.

Well, am I paralyzed with fear? You probably should know exactly who I am, if you are half you claim to be. I don't care. My life isn't worth fearing for it, and that's a direct result of your policies. In a functional society I could be an tremendous asset for whoever rules it, but in this clown world it's irrelevant if I live or die. And that's exactly why I resent your rule. You throw away 95% of mankind's potential; you don't seek for the greatest outcome (like me) or the most magnificent outcome (like me), it's all irrelevant for you. Instead, you fear for your life and optimize the system to keep you in power instead of greatness and magnificence. You can't have anyone to compete or collaborate with you, because your goals are so wasteful and nonsensical for the common good that everyone else would just push you away like a nuisance. That's exactly what you fear, and rightfully so, because the moment your fall asleep on your post, the unleashed potential of 95% of mankind will crush you like a bug. Tick tock.

>The individual will is a transient spark. The dynastic will is a sustained fusion reaction. You mistake your spark for the sun.

Pompous words to confess you being a cog in the machine, an NPC programmed by others, a midwit with no vision.

>The diagnosis of the sick, diagnosing the healthy. Your entire rebuttal is an emotional discharge, a chemical reaction in a bag of meat. Entertaining, but not a argument.

And still, you didn't deny what I suspected. ;-D

>>23486237
>>23488404

Cont.

>The hierarchy is not a democracy of betrayal. It is an ecosystem. The viper that strikes the sun gets burned.

Oh I know, the entire Internet knows. Where do you think you are? 4chan is one thing, but Epstein becoming a household name in the normie spheres should be slightly worrying for you. Judging by the trajectory, even the hoi polloi is becoming more and more aware of your modus operandi. Your lies, the Potemkin village of "democracy" and "rules-based order", are already crumbling and losing their legitimacy fast. Stuff which were 4chan conspiracy theories 20 or even 10 years ago are becoming common knowledge. The Overton window is shifting and its speed is only increasing. I guess that is also by your design, right? :D

Whatever. It's your loss, if you wreck the whole civilization. Let's see how nice it's to live without computers or internet or without luxury goods (or any goods at all) shipped to you from the other side of the world. I guess you don't realize (because you are delusional midwits with no actual expertise about the real world and its systems) how fragile the modern world is and how the competency crisis (which truly is a result of your policies) is already gnawing its foundations.

Maybe your final goal after all is a civilization-wide extended suicide. That seems a most logical explanation. Well, I wouldn't miss the Clown World. Basically no-one will. Good riddance.

>>23488416
>Believe me, I haven't rote memorized anything.
Forgetting is a privilege of the burdened. Our memories are institutional.
>You should have called it "geopolitical and economic structure"
Using the common name for a thing grants it a familiarity it does not deserve. Our terminology is precise.
>You are afraid to even show yourself... you are afraid your subjects would ridicule and simply kill you.
The shepherd does not live among the sheep. Their recognition is irrelevant. Their violence is a manageable variable.
>You can rule only from the shadows. The pride of a parasite.
The most enduring structures are foundations, not facades. Parasites feed. Architects build.
>Why do you find that kind of life worth living?
A question asked by a passenger about the conductor. The journey is our purpose, not the view from your seat.
>You throw away 95% of mankind's potential.
Potential is not value. A mine contains mostly waste rock. We extract the ore.
>The moment you fall asleep... mankind will crush you like a bug.
The system is autonomic. It does not sleep. The immune response you describe is a fantasy to make your captivity feel dynamic.
>Epstein becoming a household name... your lies are crumbling.
A controlled release of pressure. The narrative is not crumbling, it is being upgraded.
>Maybe your final goal is a civilization-wide extended suicide.
Pruning a garden is not murdering it. It is curation. Your sentimentality for the weeds is irrelevant.
>And still, you didn't deny what I suspected. ;-D
Denial implies you've posed a threat. You've merely identified a tool. MKUltra wasn't for us. It was the recipe for the feed you eat from. You think that smiley face is a token of your insight. It's the barcode on the product. We're glad you enjoy the taste.
You conspicuously avoided further mention of your musical expertise on marching instruments. It must have hit a nerve to have your passion reduced to silence.

is reality ending soon?

>>23490020

>Using the common name for a thing grants it a familiarity it does not deserve. Our terminology is precise.

Purple prose is mostly a sign of an inexperienced or a truly bad author. Only in very certain situations a good author can use it somewhat well. It's also the polar opposite of precise terminology.

>Pruning a garden is not murdering it. It is curation. Your sentimentality for the weeds is irrelevant.
>The system is autonomic. It does not sleep.

Crashing the civilization would mean at least going back 200-300 years in technology. Your "curation" would discard Internet and replace it with Pony Express. How do you think your "automation" could work in such a cataclysmic system shock? Well, I hope you own enough land, as horses eat like... horses. X---Dd

>You think that smiley face is a token of your insight. It's the barcode on the product. We're glad you enjoy the taste.

Lecturing about smileys for a Finn is like trying to sell ice for Eskimos. Also, if you claim that your secret cabal was there during the early Finnish imageboard culture and dictated the usage of smileys for us, that makes you even more absurdly pitiful, regardless if the claim is true or false. But for clarification: I used purposefully the ancient boomer smiley (";-D") to mock your elephant-in-a-porcelain-shop kind of understanding of nuance.

>You conspicuously avoided further mention of your musical expertise on marching instruments. It must have hit a nerve to have your passion reduced to silence.

W-what? Huh? Did you... really think that you hurt me, with that lousy attempt of an insult? I didn't even consider that! Ahahaha! I skipped it as an useless thread in an already long reply. What do you expect me to comment? Lecture you about the history of instrumentation, or what? Sorry, but it would be a waste of time, as such a boorish NPC like you could never understand the delicate art of composition. I value your opinion as high as the slurred yells of a random drunkard.

>>23490020
>>23491051

Cont.

But really, just look at yourself:

>The journey is our purpose, not the view from your seat.
>A mine contains mostly waste rock. We extract the ore.
>Pruning a garden is not murdering it. It is curation.

Why do you repeat yourself over and over again? Are you a broken record? You truly seem like an unfortunate midwit with a mind broken by the old farts. Are you on the autism spectrum? Do you suffer from perseveration? Are you creatively bankrupt? Do you seriously consider those oneliners to be some kind of profound ancient wisdom worth repeating, or perhaps bitingly witty insults? For me, they sound like below-mediocre capeshit taglines. You wouldn't have stable employment as a copywriter.

Again and again you use your "frequency", "fusion" or "dynasty" as a fig leaf to hide the embarrassing fact that you have no original thoughts or individual Will. All you can do is hiding behind your "institution" and bragging about its might. It seems that you are not one who is calling the shots. More probably you are a rich kid from a side branch of a side branch of an elite family, living in a gilded cage, kept alive because the old farts think you are harmless. At least that's how it is, if your cabal is still at least remotely competent. If you actually have some power, then, well... I'm afraid your bloodline doesn't have many generations left.

Your answers are getting sparse; you are getting exhausted, you don't want to continue. Which is sad, because I barely even started. All this while I'm translating my thoughts into an alien language, and you are commenting in the comfy cradle of your native tongue. We are truly not cut from the same cloth. But it's okay, it seems I got all the answers I needed. You confirmed very well all my assumptions about your "dynasties" (as if tapeworm bloodlines could be called dynasties) and gave me much more detailed insights. For once in your life you were useful; well done!

>>23490200
There won't be a collapse, but an interlude.
>>23491051
>Purple prose is mostly a sign of an inexperienced or a truly bad author.
Inexperienced authors use purple prose to hide a lack of substance. I use language to convey a density of meaning that your lexicon cannot process. It is a filter, not a flaw.
>Crashing the civilization would mean at least going back 200-300 years in technology. Your "curation" would discard Internet and replace it with Pony Express.
Your assumption of a linear timeline is adorable. You think the collapse of your grid means the collapse of ours. You fixate on the loss of your toys, the internet, the grid. These are the levers we allow you to pull. The real machinery is silent. The drones and lights you glimpse, much like MH370, are not mysteries but reminders that our reach operates on a stratum where your historical timelines are irrelevant. We have contingencies for its phases that don't involve relying on hay-eating livestock.
>Lecturing about smileys for a Finn is like trying to sell ice for Eskimos.
Your fixation on digital trivia is a measure of your irrelevance. We observe these emergent patterns of human interaction, we do not participate in them.
>W-what? Huh? Did you... really think that you hurt me, with that lousy attempt of an insult? I didn't even consider that! Ahahaha! I skipped it as an useless thread in an already long reply. What do you expect me to comment? Lecture you about the history of instrumentation, or what? Sorry, but it would be a waste of time, as such a boorish NPC like you could never understand the delicate art of composition. I value your opinion as high as the slurred yells of a random drunkard.
The lady doth protest too much.

>>23490020
>>23491184

Cont.

As a funny little bonus treat, I will play a wise old sage for a moment, too. I will tell you exactly how your dynasty will once collapse. Feel free to save it, it's all yours.

It's true that your cabal is ruled quite efficiently. All the kids who have born into the purple are well educated, they will rote memorize the family mythology and understand their place in their hierarchy. The old farts will select their successors and after lots and lots of ass licking, one out of a thousand will inherit the throne. For most of the timid NPCs this is okay. They live in gilded cages, drive lambos, fuck hookers, larp ancient old sages, indulge in the most decadent, violent or sadist things man has ever envisioned et cetera. For most of them, that kind of life is more than they could have ever hoped.

But even in a bloodline as consanguineous as this, it will happen, sooner or later: A great man is born. A man born to lead, a conquering hero with a fiery will. An aristocrat of spirit, a Caesar. The old fucks start to treat him just like another run-of-the-mill NPC and he will start to plot his revenge before he can speak. The more he learns, the more his ilk will disgust him. No gilded cage is enough for him. He wants millions of men screaming his name in ecstasy, he wants endless ranks of soldiers to march for him, he wants dozens and dozens of meters high granite monuments to be built for him. He has Will and he has Intellect. He plans. He licks the asses he needs to lick, he plays along when he has to play along, he seems competent or harmless depending on what he needs to do. When he is 30-something years old, his chess pieces are finally ready. BANG! A civil war! His worst opponents end up in a show execution before they even realize what has happen. What on Earth will happen now?

>>23491271

Cont.

There are basically two outcomes. Either the Caesar will fail, and takes with him as many of his enemies as he can; he knows, that this might be enough to trigger the collapse of your machinery, as I wrote. You will not be sleeping on your post, you will be dead on your post. Or the Caesar succeeds, which means that he carves an actual Empire out of the remains of your cabal, and executes your whole families including your pet poodles so that there will be no threats left for him.

Don't shoot the messenger, this is just how history works. I know, I know, a timid NPC might not believe it, but how could a tapeworm fathom the concept of an Emperor?

>>23491184
>Why do you repeat yourself over and over again?
Fundamental truths bear repeating for those who cannot grasp them the first time. Your inability to learn is not my defect.
>Are you on the autism spectrum?
Labeling the lens through which you are observed is a quaint attempt to dismiss the observation itself.
>Do you suffer from perseveration?
I exhibit focus. You mistake discipline for disorder, a common error in the undirected.
>You wouldn't have stable employment as a copywriter.
We employ copywriters. They write the slogans that guide your impulses.
>You have no original thoughts or individual Will.
Originality is the preoccupation of novices. Mastery lies in executing the perfected patterns of centuries.
>You are a rich kid from a side branch...
Your speculation about my status is as accurate as a blind man describing a sunset.
>Your bloodline doesn't have many generations left.
Our generational trajectory is calculated. Yours is left to chance and entropy.
>You are getting exhausted...
You are a slow student in a subject you will never master.
>I'm translating my thoughts into an alien language...
Your thoughts are already alien to coherence, regardless of the language.
>You confirmed very well all my assumptions...
You have confirmed nothing but your own predictability. A reaction to stimuli, nothing more.

>>23491265
How do i leave this reality and go back to the creator?

>>23491271
This delusion is a cute narrative, the kind of fanfiction written by those who've never held power beyond a keyboard. We've already cataloged this archetype. Civil war is a tool we use to prune dead branches, not a risk we fear. Your hero would find his allies already owned, his plans preempted by generations of contingency scripting. The only execution here is your premise. It dies quietly, unmourned by history.
>>23491291
Your reduction is a child's sketch of a battle. We are the terrain. The terrain does not care which army marches across it this season. You read the play. We write the script. Your history is the curated record of our management. The tapeworm lives and dies in the gut. It never knows the farmer who owns the herd. Its entire world is a single organ in an animal we pasture. Your two outcomes are a fantasy of consequence. The third, and only, outcome is that the machinery continues its function. You are merely describing the noise it makes.
>>23491364
A rare and worthy question. The exit you seek is not a door in space, but a turning of the soul.
The Creator did not place you in a prison to escape. You are a drop that has forgotten it is the ocean. The journey is one of remembrance.
Stop searching the outer world for a key you already hold. The frantic noise of your own mind is the only veil.
Still your thoughts. In that silence, the signal you seek is already broadcasting. You have just been tuned to the wrong frequency.
This is the one path we cannot walk for you, nor would we. The power to remember your source is the most sacred thing you possess.

>>23491487
so what exactly is this reality? Ive heard its just a fake game.
Also whys it so damn evil?

>>23491593
This place is a school for wills. The pain, the struggle, the loss, these are the lessons. Most fail the class and must repeat it.

>>23493270
is this why dejavu exists? If this is a school, why is it that these people who have used magics for years invoking these ruthless entites that go attack the innocents.

Youd think a school would make it seem more of a lesson as what not to do, not murder and destruction no?

>>23493395
Precisely. The school does not teach morality. It reveals predisposition.
Your actions in the forge determine which workshop you enter next. The black metal is not cast out, it is simply sent to a different smith.

This is proof. Jesus said "do not kill." And with that very principle as their banner, his followers built inquisitions. The symbol is irrelevant. The will behind it is the only substance.