>>23511394>Eric W. Dolan
>>23511394Do not fall for glownigger divide & conquer tactics.Christianity is the definition of "right wing" political ideology:- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum#Origins_in_the_French_RevolutionChristianity has always been a racist religion:>"Oh, race of Franks, race from across the mountains, race chosen and beloved [...]">"the kingdom of the Persians, an accursed race, a race utterly alienated from God [...]"- https://www2.cbn.com/article/church/pope-urban-iis-speech-calling-first-crusadeThe racist and anti-semitic Confederates have always been Christian.The National Socialists used the Celtic cross and gave out iron cross medals for bravery. The white term for "swastika" is hakenkreuz, meaning hooked cross.- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HakenkreuzbannerHere's a growing list of Christian political commentators who are racist and anti-semitic:- https://rentry.org/Deus_VultFeel free to reply to this post with others.Educate boomers irl. If you don't preach to them, the anti-Christian kikes will:- https://news.antiwar.com/2025/10/06/israel-to-spend-up-to-4-1-million-in-propaganda-campaign-targeting-american-christians/israeli nationalism ("zionism") is a heresy:- https://youtu.be/GKlT-hhZXoM&t=658s- https://youtu.be/odNoExd8a5U- https://youtu.be/rp92-3aBL-AThe "holocaust" (burnt offering) is a lie made up by kikes, both soviet and freemason:- https://rumble.com/c/ScriptureandTraditionFrJM/videosBoycott israeli products:- https://bdsmovement.netCommon glownigger talking points:>"jesus is a kike"The word "kike" comes from "kikel", which means circle. The kikes hate the cross so much, they would sign documents with a circle, hence the nickname.- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_and_minus_signs#Alternative_plus_sign>"off topic"Reminder the pope is the monarch of a country. In fact in many white nations there is no separation between church and state.
>>23511394Yep you need at least 9 points in INT to unlock this ability to detect bullshit.
>>23511394>Killing yourself is unlocked when you're smart enough
atheism is not the same as being areligiousbeing areligious is for smart people
Sort of makes sense but it's a intellectual and spiritual dead-end.the west needs a new religion
Atheism is the hardcore mode of religion trait choices.No benefits, -100 relations with all factions, but everyone else are casuals.
>>23511394>burning forever in the lake of fire is smartAschktually it's the sign a person is dumb. Salvation is a free gift, and to reject it is the dumbest thing anyone can ever do.
>>23511400maybe on a group level, but not on an individual level. I'm a high fertility atheist. Most people are only atheist in the sense that they reject the religion they were indoctrinated with - they don't do the hard work of trying to replace what religion provides I think there's a future where humanity can be atheist collectively without relying on the lies of religion. You don't have to be religious to value family, community, lifetime monogamy and acting virtuously
>>23511394Have you ever met an atheist nigger?
>>23511402Go back to somalia.
>>23511394Is this guy smart enough?
>>23511394Atheism has become a religion, faggot.
>>23511394fork found in kitchen
>>23511403>You don't have to be religious to value family, community, lifetime monogamy and acting virtuouslyYou have to appeal to God to explain why anything has any value at all. Atheists are unable to answer why something has value. Should be a huge warning sign that's easy to spot, but in reality, as opposed to "studies", atheists are not as smart as they pretend to be.
>>23511405I can't go back to a place I've never been.
>>23511394you post these retarded threads everyday kiwi
>>23511394Islam wasn't a dead giveaway?
>>23511409You've just never bothered to be empathetic and try to model the atheist point of view. Religion is made up to me. Any "objective" morality that the religious claim is just as made up as my morality is. Christian, Islamic, Jewish morality etc. is all made up, even if those adherents insist to me it isn't.I arbitrarily value family, love and monogamy. Cry about it. Consult your religion's morality and ask it if it's really moral to try to convince me to not value these things.
>>23511406Curiously he isn't wrong. Given the context of genetic recombination, the first human would at some point before the full spread of genes through billions of people, would create someone very much alike the first human. That's why some people believed in reincarnation by example. Nowadays we know that someone looks like they great grandfather cause of genetics but back then it was different. Have you ever though about what making humans his image means? I mean, if my son looks like me I made him my image haven't I?
>>23511394this is a patently flawed and "in bad faith" way to study correlation and causation of intelligence or being faithful. Atheism is ideology of nothing pushed by communist ( i.e. Jews ) and other grifters onto middle class to upper class whites to demoralize and isolate them. So by definition the only people who are even going to have the concept of Atheism pushed onto them instead of Islam, Christianity, Hinduism etc.. are people with much more "privilege" which leads to institutions of "higher learning", which preach Atheism like a religion. Basically everyone who is not a privileged little snot with a high degree of Jewish influence is going to be religious, so you have a much larger pool of people that come from families with low privilege and low access even have Atheism pushed on them in the same way Christianity would be pushed on some Mexican in a town with few paved streets. So yeah, it's like saying "having stupid overpriced designer shit more common with high iq people", well guess who has the access to squander resources like that? Yeah, you dumb nigger.
This applies to white Christians only though right? Lmao
>>23511409they are also unable to explain why pedophilia is wrong without contradicting their r*ddit worldview too kek
>>23511413I have not spoken a single word about wether it's wrong of you to value something. Dumbdumb. Typical atheist. Can't even read. Always on the defensive. I said atheist cannot explain why something has value. Deal with it.
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>>23511394>correlationkek, i thought you atheists are actually for using science
>>23511398Says the gay faggot. Your kind is the worst.
>>23511394Stop making these threads faggot.
>>23511418>I said atheist cannot explain why something has value.You failed to grasp my point about this. You may view your religion as "explaining" it, but your explanation has no worth to me just because you insist something made up is not made up. There is little value in "explaining" it.I am a human. I will be a human. Humans flourish with love, community and altruism. I do not need to justify or explain being a human. I simply am one.
>>23511417Of course. Their world view is faulty at a fundamental level. Because of that their error in thought is gonna follow and pop up all over the place whenever the subject is something that cannot be measured materially. If your fundament is crooked, you think crooked, you see crooked. Etc. I dunno how well that last analigy works in english but in norwegian it works well. Anyway.
>>23511394Yes. Religion is for retards
>>23511394>yourclearly not you then huh
>>23511423Don't go around telling me what I understand or not. I don't care if you care or not, I don't know you and never will. I have actual loved ones that will burn forever in hell. I lose no sleep over some random guy going there when he dies. I am simply stating a fact. An atheist cannot explain why something has value, or why life has meaning. Christians can. Deal with it.
>>23511425Retards have a legitimate excuse; most theists' only excuse is they are short sighted and gulliable to worship god/delusion
>>23511394Funny how all the retarded religious people figured out covid came from a lab before all of the quadruple vaxed atheists did.
>>23511427>an atheist cannot explain why something has value, or why life has meaning.Who cares? Why is this more important than living virtuously? You're showing the brain of a teenage reddit atheist in needing to intellectually justify or explain things, instead of focusing on the things that actually matter, like living well with love in your life.
Yeah even in the past most truly intelligent people had weird copes regarding christianity or were obsessing over aspects of it that dont even matter to people now because it was the only way to pass the time as a 145 iq living in that retarded world. It's usually what led to the actual peasant rabble that believed in that retarded shit to ethnically cleanse eachother funnily enough too. Like take arian christianity. Arius taught that jesus was created by god and was therefore distinct from him, as opposed to mainstream chalcedonian christianity which taught that jesus was always existent and therefore was the same thing as god. Sounds pointless right? Some dumb shit you would see two mexicans argue over in a pol thread at 2 am? Well it led to the very first ever example of christians deciding to attempt to torture and rape eachother to death over which version was right for 300 years (over 1000 years before protestantism ever happened lol which is the same example as this)
>>23511422Go to your mosque mohammed the truth will still be posted here
>>23511394Someone should let these scientists know that those people running around screaming about 8 billion genders are mostly atheists. Or that guns wallk around on their own killing people. Or that the government had our best interest at heart as it gives fortunes away to non citizens then arrests us if we don't pay some jew to file our taxes
>>23511430>Who cares? God cares. And so will you, when it's too late. Where you spend eternity is actually of infinite importance. This is logic so evidently true it boggles my mind an atheist never actually grasps it.
>>23511430The real question is how do you win arguments with people who disagree with you about what's valuable without invoking "man in the sky will light you on fire for disagreeing with me."
>>23511430Also. Don't speak to me about stuff that matters, if you cannot explain why something matters at all. It's insulting.
>>23511396can you stop shitting up every thread with a wall of text and links (t)rani
>>23511434You're saying God will care more about how I explain why being good is good, rather than simply living with virtue?The basic ideas of "goodness" existed in prehistory long before people invented the modern religions. The capacity for goodness is bred into our genes. We're a tribal species that flourishes when we love our families.>>23511435It seems like he's just scared of being punished forever, that's what's motivating him. The man lives in fear it seems.
>>23511435>I have no arguments so I will make a strawman
>>23511432>Bedouin man
>>23511402If it's free, you are the product
>>23511435God worshippers are narcisstic they wrap their god/delusion with themselves so they are just a golem for the religion. So if you attack their religion they go hyper sensistive and butt hurt because its effectively an offense to themselves.
>>23511406The Noble lie
>>23511407You are a disgrace to fascism
>>23511394What about the ontological question?
>>23511434So if God didn't exist, there'd be no value in living virtuously?
>>23511413>I arbitrarily value family, love and monogamyNothing arbitrary about it. You inherited Christian values.
>>23511438You cannot explain why something is virtuous. Why something is good or bad. You have no answers. It's like having a map that doesn't show you where you are. It's not a good map and you shouldn't just pretend you are somewhere on the map and go from there. That is folly. And God cares about folly. God cares that people reject him. And he cares that people reject the map he made for us. I am talking about the Bible of course. But essentially I am saying God cares about where you end up in the afterlife. To go back to what I said in my first post; not being able to explain something as basic as why there is good and evil, why something has value, why there is meaning to life. All of that should be a huge warning sign. But nah you don't really care and you're just gonna try to live a good life. Despite not understanding anything. Well ok, fool.
>>23511438Also>It seems like he's just scared of being punished forever, that's what's motivating him. The man lives in fear it seems.Why would christians, who believe they will go to heaven, be scared of being punished with hell? Makes no sense. Christians are not scared of hell. We don't believe we are going there. You don't even know that? Wow.
>>23511446All's well that ends well.All's nothing that ends in nothing.
>>23511448Who cares about the explanation? You can’t explain why being good is good either. You are fundamentally being unempathetic and not understanding my point of view. Your “explanation” of pointing to a book collated by men is not a legitimate one to me, but i don’t care, all I really care about is if people act virtuously, the reason they do so is irrelevant. All that matters are your actions
>>23511451>You can’t explain why being good is good either.I can. It's good because God wants it to be so.
>>23511396>Christianity is the definition of "right wing" political ideologyStopped reading your aids-ridden drivel. European christianity is a carpet molded by the European faith/values/ethnicities which it was laid upon. Christian sects exist in Europe only as a way for the different nations of Europe(formerly pagan ancestor worshippers) to distance themself from their "fellow christians" because race/ethnicity even if not acknowledged are crucial in understanding the world. >Catholic - Mediterranean cultures(celtic, basque and roman pagans)>Protestant - Germanic cultures(central European and Norse pagans)>Orthodox - Eastern European cultures(Slavs and Balkan pagans)If you know a little of the history of Europe it becomes immediately obvious why the different sects are embraced in their respective countries. You'll see exceptions where nations are not adhering to the chosen sect of their wider race, this is easily explained by the fact that Christianity has nothing to do with the values of European peoples so which sect a people choose is decided by who their friends and enemies are rather than the "values" of the sect. Poland is a great example of this where they've been enemies of both their Germanic neighbors to the west and their Slavic brethren to their east and as a result they've chosen a sect which alienates them from their hostile neighbors.
>>23511451It is not the explanation that we care about per se. It's people. Souls. I am saying, that to disgard the intellectual endevour of trying to understand our existence is dumb. Atheists are dumb for not caring about the explanation, because the explanation can push you into searching for God. Because we care about human beings and where they spend eternity. Capiche?
>>23511394@Grok, how many studies show very strong evidence that cutting off children’s penises is hecking stunning and brave?
>>23511450I'm asking a simple question. If God didn't exist, you'd have no reason to live virtuously?
>>23511398>the animal that kills themselves most of all also happen to be the most intelligent animal
>>23511394>yes, goyium, use my tactics
>>23511456And I answered. I take it you didn't understand what I was getting at so I guess I can repeat what I have already said in a bunch of comments. You cannot explain stuff like virtue, meaning or morals without an appeal to God. To put it even more bluntly for you since I am a nice guy. If something came (magically) from nothing, lasted for a year or two, or a billion, and then returned to nothing, then nothing inside that finite space of time would matter. In the end it would all be nothing.
>>23511456Different anon, I’d like to ask you a question:Do you believe that belief in God has never deterred anyone from antisocial behavior (eg: stealing)?
>>23511459>You cannot explain stuff like virtue, meaning or morals without an appeal to God.False. It’s in our genes. It was evolutionarily beneficial to our species to be virtuous and moral. Also that still doesn’t explain why anyone should believe in the brand of god of your denomination rather than any other God that people describe. Why not believe in Allah?
>>23511461>meaning is in your genes...
>>23511461>Also that still doesn’t explain why anyone should believe in the brand of god of your denomination rather than any other God that people describe. Why not believe in Allah?That is true, and also not what we are discussing in this thread. But it's a legit question and the answer lies in the Bible if you care to find out.
>>23511455>ironically cuts his dick because his fiction says soHahahahhaahahha theism is just a life of failure.
>>23511462It either is or isn’t, it doesn’t matter in the end. It’s childish to want meaning to be given to you. I’m an adult man. I make my own meaning through love, romance, virtue and family. You’re the one whose life would crumble by a crisis of faith. If God exists and is virtuous he surely does not want you dependent on him for meaning and purpose. To imagine such a fate for my own children seems cruel if I were to teach that to them, that their purpose and meaning depends on my approval
>>23511394Ah, the classic, "only retards believe X" argument. Do retards actually fall for this?
>>23511394i don't want to associate with either faction. religious people slurp up drivel from coin-flip pedophiles, atheists do the same with dawkins et al. if i want to hear the word of God, i would read passages from the Bible again.if i want to ask heretical questions about life and the universe, i simply do so. i was never brought up with religion so i have no compelling reason besides selfishness to engage with it. and atheists are generally ugly and awful people i don't want anything to do with.
>>23511465I am not talking about being given meaning by God or something like that. I am talking about the fact that atheism does not have an explanation for why life has meaning. And that it should be a warning sign to atheists. Imagine if you had a map that showed no familiar geological features beyond one or two rocks. Would it be smart to follow that map? God gives life meaning. That's just the way it is. An atheist cannot explain why something (such as life) has meaning. Because they reject the explanation. That's just the way it is.
>>23511464god worshippers gave their life to fiction long ago
>>23511460I think it did. Another question. Christians that lost faith will automatically in that moment become degens?
>>23511468I would surely follow such a map if I believed it to be real, such as you do. But from my perspective, you are asking me to follow a fictional map, like a map of Middle Earth. Why should I follow your map and not another? Have you even read the Quran?It might also be good context to add that I don’t believe God doesn’t exist, I just think if he does he has nothing to do with how major religions describe him. But I have no evidence that he exists, or that any “map” that exists is accurate, so I will simply forge my own path the best I can, trusting in the basic ideas of good and evil that 99% of humanity subscribes to since before history.
>>23511448First of all, the muh golden rule, selfish altruism and things like sense of justice emerge naturally in groups, even monkeys have that (literal monkeys), you don't need to teach that. you can say it's evolutionary. No god here. Secondly, and most importantly, the only thing that really (practically) matters is the thing that is enforced. and things like "don't kill that taxpayer" or "don't steal from that merchant" were enforced by guards with spears long before any-fucking-religion, christianity included. guards with spears are necessary and sufficient for any society to behave "morally" - a religion doesn't have anything to do with it.Theoreticals come from narure, practically they come from force.Gods have nothing to do with virtue.
>>23511459You didn't answer and pascal's wager is shite. Those who live virtuously with YHWH would also be participating in pascal's wager. If foreskin god only cares about worship, he doesn't care about hoomans living virtuously. If he cares about us living virtuously, he doesn't care about us worshipping him. If there's no afterlife but eternal recurrence, the rules for living are inverted and you'll suffer for eternity because you've fallen for sensibilities of apocalyptic judaism
>>23511394Nikola Tesla believed in God atheists are mental kindergarteners.
>>23511394Agnostic is more intelligent of a selection.There is no proof, yet there is also no way to prove some deity is not up there, and the initial cause of everything, or anything. Not saying there is a huge chance, but the chance is not non-zero. Atheism is too definitive without proof.
>>23511468> am talking about the fact that atheism does not have an explanation for why life has meaningIt's not its job. Philosophy does. And there are many systems explaining that very topic without needing a religion.Religion is the most easy tool to use to find "meaning". But it's akin to explaining lightning with God's powers. Eventually people become smart enough to see real reasons. Same thing with meanings, morals and explaining them through religions. I admit they still work very well for stupid people. And browns, I think you're brown.
>>23511474Tesla lived and died like a stereotypical reddit incel atheist, not a great appeal to authority that you have And believing in “god” doesn’t mean believing in a religion
>>23511394That sounds extremely antisemiticI'm paging adl as we speak ..
>>23511470I imagine you become a degenerate well before losing faith; you are putting the cart before the horse.If you agree belief in God modifies behavior positively, what point were you driving at by asking that other anon that question?
>>23511394Religiosity is the forced from birth indoctrination of schizo Abrahamic tier religions. God can be real, but sandcuck books (all of em) are fake as fuck.
>>23511475>Binary questionTheist Third choice ahahhahahahaha my sides
>>23511403Bingo, this is it. But NPC's need this shit. Sadly.
>>23511394*You're
>>23511474Can you prove it that he believed in God or do you just have faith in it?> B-but he said so!Mohammed said he was flying on a magical donkey.Theists, man...
>>23511475The idea that atheism implies absolute certainty about the nonexistence of anything that *someone* might want to call God (or a god) is a strawman imo.
>>23511394athiest are middle of the bell curve, think they are "too smart" to believe in god. retards all believe in god because it feels natural for them, and very high IQ have surpassed midwittery to realize the retards are right
>>23511486The lower end has organized books though. The higher end knows a God or a creator or w/e else is probably there. But that fucker doesn't give a shit if you work on a sunday or saturday. That's what the retarded cucks stress over.
>>23511475why bother being a fence sitter. embrace deism. or pascals wager if you are more inclined towards christianity. agnostic reeks of cowardice
>>23511487god created the universe and said "good luck cya later fuckers" and went out for some smokes. kinda based desu
>>23511488fence sitter? he's like you deist a delusional loser like all theists are.
>>23511479If the effect is purely mechanical, why do we need a Jewish guilt cult for that one?
>>23511490try that again in english chang!
>>23511491I don’t understand your question.
>>23511492I get it your life of failure hurts when reality points it out.
>>23511486This is what retards like you use to cope. They pick some con artists who are considered smart and claim to be religious or at least theists and boost their wellbeing through attention economy. And everyone is happy.There is not 1 smart person on this planet who is truthfully and unironically religious. But there are many who lie about it for many reasons like Andrew Tate
>>23511394I know exactly what religion is and why it exists, and it has nothing to do with intelligence or lack thereof.
>>23511457no more survival for the fittest? shame.