Why did Truman call Oppeinheimer a pussy for crying about nuking 200,000 Japanese people to death? Why couldn’t he sympathize with him? Is Truman a sociopath?
>>23761346>mfw when the big huge funny boom boom mass murder bomb I built to drop on the germans gets used on the japanese instead
He was just following FDR's orders of unconditional Japanese surrenderWhich became pointless and a massive waste of hundreds of thousands of lives when it turned out the only Japanese condition was for them to keep the Emperor, which the Americans allowed anyway
>>23761346Because Truman was the one who made the decision, and all the deaths caused by the bomb were on him. He knew this and understood it fundamentally, and I'm sure it weighed on his soul. However he also knew that doing so would save many more lives.So when some whiny little shit came into his office to cry about it, he was rightfully upset.
>>23761346"You didn't drop the bomb, I did."he literally explains it in the scene. Are you dull?
>>23761346>Hey Oppeinheimer, you want some Japanese fried rice? >But fried rice is Chinese, Mr President>Not anymore!!! >You got me again sir
>>23761350People can go to prison for creating bombs that other people used.
>>23761346Because Oppenheimer didn't give a damn about any of those people. It was all performative - he was too self-absorbed to care about anyone but himself. Truman saw through the facade right away.
>>23761346Because moral grandstanding is gay
>>23761346Because Truman became president at the tail end of WWII. He didn't do the heavy lifting that FDR did. He's like the rich nepo baby that inherited the throne, so he acts like one.
>>23761353This
>>23761349> So when some whiny jew came into his office to cry about it, he was rightfully upset.>>23761353> It was all performative - he was too self-absorbed to care about anyone but himself. Truman saw through the facade right away.Oppenheimer was a jee after all and in truth wasn't all that critical to the Manhattan project. He was the project manager but wasn't super important.
>>23761353And to be more exact, Oppenheimer created the atom bomb explicitly to mass murder Germans as punishment for the Holocaust. He never expected the atomic bombs to be used on the Japanese, whom Oppenheimer and his fellow Jewish scientists had no ill will towards. The whole point of them making them for the US was the implied notion that FDR would use them to mass genocide the Germans as payback for the extermination/persecution of the Jews at Nazi hands.
>>23761348Yes but the 33rd presient of United States needed to nuke the two most catholic cities in Japan to become a 32rd degree freemason.
>>23761346He said it in the same scene didn’t he?>something something he built it but I’m the one that had to use it
>>23761347But but they did the holocaust anon.
Because Hollywood needs the WASP to be heartless and the JEW to have a conscience.Simple as.
>>23761358>A-bomb development started in 1939>Manhattan project in 1942>as revenge for the holocaust the American gov found out about in 1943 and first did something about in 1944.Ok.
>>23761349The saving lives part is bullshit cope, muricans just wanted to show the world their new swinging dicks.Luckily good people with conscience who want to Heal the World gave the plans to the Soviets as well so the situation was balanced out shortly
>>23761362But Truman was a major Zionist, and the state of Israel may not have existed without his influence.
I'm really getting fed up with the wait, when is the next nuke going off? And who's going to televise it?
>Be Harry Truman>Have followed development of the War in the Pacific since the attack on Pearl Harbor>Keenly aware of Japanese attrocities against prisoners like the rape of Nanking or the Bataan death march>Have to personally review reports on American POW's that are being actively tortured by the Japanese>Decide to nuke Japan to expedite war's end and spare the lives of thousands of US Soldiers in a potential land invasion of Japan>Despite the unprecedented destruction, the plan barely works because the Japanese are so fanatical they'd rather overthrow their Emperor than accept his surrendering in the face of certain death>Six months after victory, your lead scientist who's been too busy philandering in New Mexico to pay attention to the horrors of war comes to you and says "You should've have heckin' done that!"nothing wrong
>>23761364The Japanese were fanatical and would fight to the death. Many American soldiers and marines would die in an invasion, as would hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians. The use of nukes was regrettable, but it was better than the alternative.
>>23761368>>23761367There was no need for any of that, the american leaders were just bloodthristy and wanted total surrender, leaving no option for peace and save face
>>23761369>>23761364these are the words of someone who doesn't study history
>>23761370I just dont eat up american propaganda
>>23761371No, but you should eat some shit slant eye.
>>23761346You've got to be tough when you're the boss.
>>23761372Kek haven't seen "slant eye" in a while.
>Is Truman a sociopath?Yes, but that's unrelated. Oppie was a man full of hubris, and couldn't face the weigh of giving what is essentially the doomsday device to a retard ("hur soviets not gonna get it")
>>23761346>>23761353Oppenheimer is was trying to take a high ground, despite pioneering the worst weapon even made by mankind.Strauss' character lays out Oppenheimer's hypocrisy perfectly in the end, but since he is the antagonist of the film, audience ignore his ramblings.
>>23761358retard, holocaust was a closely guarded secret till the tail end of war.
>>23761350The bomb he was alluding to was the Trvth Nvke he dropped within the sentence.
>>23761346Firebombing population centers is okay even though it causes indiscriminate death and destruction. But the atomic bomb crosses the line, don't you see? It could lead to indiscriminate death and destruction!
Oppenheimer was a Communist. His problem was that they used the bomb on Japan and not Germany. Also, Truman only allegedly said those words, and it wasn't to Oppenheimer's face.
>>23761346When workers finally throw capitalist parasites from their shoulders, this movie will be retained as a sample of western propaganda for future generations to see how mafiosi/capitalists portrayed themselves to plebs.Its mere concept for existing is utterly ridiculous and it would have flopped to bankruptcy levels if it ever made it to production, as a b-movie/army funded prop of course, anytime between the 60s and 80s
>The 'S' in Harry S. Truman's name doesn't stand for anything and his full name is Harry S. Truman with the period and all.
>>23761381>Oppenheimer was a CommunistThst would suit your propaganda so well
>>23761380The Japanese and Americans have been frens since the 1800s. What if the whole war was an agreement between the two of them to test and develop new weapons.
>>23761346>big bomb.... explode?Oppein was a fucking moron.
>>23761383what the FUCK
>>23761387Just one in a long list of WACKY WW2 LEADER FACTS
>>23761346>Was the president of the United States a sociopathThat's literally the only prerequisite for the job.Concerning Oppenheimer, pic rel.
>>23761364Wouldn’t be surprised if the faggot openhemer himself gave the plans to the soviets
>>23761369>wanted total surrenderPretty understandable considering what the Japanese had been upto for 50 years prior to the war.
>Gary Olman manages to play both Churchill and TrumanDid he miss the opportunity to play Hitler at a younger age? Is he to old a man now?
>>23761346All the western leaders were at that time especiallyTrumanFDREisenhowerChurchilletc
>>23761387>>23761383Kek my parents did that for me.
>>23761346Because nuking browns is based and oppeinheimer was a commie faggot.
>>23761392He can still play Tojo
>>23761346Being a sociopath is a prerequisite to being the leader of any country (or a CEO, and so on), because you have the final say over whether people are going to be killed or not.It's easy to criticize powerful people for being sociopaths, psychopaths and so forth, but this just masks the hypocrisy of the meek masses who either elect them or tolerate them. the masses allow their leaders to be sociopaths so that they, the meek, don't have to feel directly responsible for the murder and exercise of hard power that they tacity demand in order to enjoy their own material comforts. We imagine that tyrants come into power, but there's another way of viewing the dynamic. On some level, the meek want tyrants to take charge so that they, that is the meek, don't have to feel directly responsible for any of the horrible things that happen which allow the meek to continue their lives.
>>23761395atom bombs aren't nukes and japanese aren't brown
>>23761346READ THE SIGN CRETIN
>>23761367Oppenheimer was only mad it wasn't dropped on the Germans, like all of the atomic scientists (including the soviet spies)
>>23761369>There was no need for any of thatThe US was worried the longer the war dragged on the more likley an invasion and jap insurgency would be which would have also likely meant the soviets invading and occupying the northern territories of Japan resulting in another cluster fuck like central Europe.The nuke was unironcally the best option as it's shock and awe factor gave the Japs an honourable surrender, ended the war 12-18 months earlier than a a blockade would have, denied the Ruskies a chance to invade and occupy resulting in the US gaining dominance over Japan for the next 50 years.
>>23761383it stands for sneed (formerly stands for chuck).
>>23761348Fuck FDR
>>23761370>>23761372>you have to trust the same sources that tell us Hitler was the devilNope!
>>23761346Why didn't they show him being a freemason
>>23761359That's fucking based. Get rid of all christians.
>>23761346>nips attack you>you blow them up >jew cries about you not blowing up the nazistruman was right to call him a bitch
>>23761346https://youtu.be/3x3NibKpMlg?si=dTPKdXuHBnzH2Dw7
>>23761401Thats the official story. The super secret ultra sensitive function of the atomic bomb is a SOUL KILLER, to alleviate an escalating soul bug
>>23761357Who was more important? Him or Groves?
>>23761346Obviously, he was a US President.
>>23761353Truman knew that if they had dropped it in Germany not one of these pinko jews would have shed a tear. In fact anyone expressing qualms would have been smeared by Oppenheimer and the other juden as Nazis
Straus was the real protagonist of this movie.
>>23761346They should have bombed more cities so that anime wouldnt be created.
>>23761359Dumb victim complex having schizo.
>>23761372Ok Jewish male
>>23761395Imagine thinking this in 2025
>>23761346He was a knower and understood that Oppenheimer was only kvetching that his white people vaporizer 5,000 was dropped on heccin minorities instead
>>23761357Actually if Oppenheimer wasn't there the bomb possibly would have never been finished. So he was super important to the project
>>23761347>>23761358>>23761362>>23761418If Germans didn’t have a 80% surrender rate none of this would be a problem
>>23761346Truman hated commies, and Oppenheimer was a slimey fuck who let the nuke plans go to the Soviets with his mismanagement, so he told that faggot to piss off.
How many Chinese and Koreans did the Japanese massacre and then they act like the victims? >R. J. Rummel, a professor of political science at the University of Hawaii, estimates that between 1937 and 1945, the Japanese military murdered from nearly three to over ten million people, most likely six million Chinese, Indians, Koreans, Malays, Indonesians, Filipinos, and Indochinese, among others, including European, American, and Australian prisoners of war.They had it coming
>>23761364>The saving lives part is bullshit copenigger, tens of thousands more US troops would have gotten killed and probably millions more japanese if nukes werent used and a full invasion of mainland japan happened. the war could have dragged on years later, russia would have also invaded northern japan and probably divided the country like what happened to korea. dropping the bombs was the much better option overall
>>23761349>So when some whiny little shit came into his office to cry about it, he was rightfully upset.That "whiny little shit" was the man who gave him the bomb in the first place and was also witness to the inhuman way they spoke about using the bomb. He had every right to express his concerns over what was done. Truman was acting like he was Superman. He was no Ike Eisenhower who openly opposed using the bombs. Japan was going to surrender. Russia had just broke from their non-aggression pact and poised to invade Japan which didn't want because the North had commie sympathizers and didn't want a portion of their country split up. Sure the fire bombings of Tokyo killed more people than the nukes killed so the death toll is clearly not playing a factor. They just wanted to test the two bombs they had to show the world they were THE superpower now.>>23761390It was the Brits they brought over that gave the Russians the intel.
>>23761422>muh 6 million!quit copying other people's homework
>>23761423They were going to surrender. Russia was poised to invade them after breaking from their non-aggression pact. Japan didn't want two different invasions with the Russian one funding a civil war in the North to back their Japanese commies.
>>23761425why is murdering millions of people not something people are allowed to talk about? when did that become not a legitimate talking point? If you murder millions of people then get bombed by another country, that should be expected.
>>23761420>If Germans didn’t have a 80% surrender rate none of this would be a problemLooks like forcing the people to follow a fascist government falls apart when they start being invaded.
>>23761426>They were going to surrenderoh sure, they would have surrendered. like in 1947 after millions more people had died. why is that a better outcome to you?
>>23761429I noticed you ignored my part with Russia poised to invade and fund a civil war in Japan which would give them loads of reasons to just surrender to the US
>>23761346>I'm building a weapon to fuck the Krauts>NOOO don't kill the NipsJej
>>23761346It's made up. Completely fake.Maga rats don't know history and brown trash same story.
>>23761346because the jew wanted the bomb dropped on white people but truman said stfu kike
>>23761430trusting stalin and imperial japan to do what you are proposing is retarded. dropping the nukes got us exactly what we wanted the fastest and easiest way, you are complaining about nothing.
>>23761433It's made up. False. Completely fake. It was written down as proto click bait the mocked. Tell us more about politics.
Fun Fact: Nagasaki was central to Catholics in Japan and the nuke killed ten thousand of innocent Christians
>>23761423>the official storyThose arent for believing
>>23761436and? there were lots of Christians in European cities who also got bombed in WW2. like all them
>>23761421>>23761349>>23761360>>23761375>>23761376No it's completely made up. Truman and Oppenheimer stayed close friends until they died Their weekly letters to each other are in the Truman museum open to the public. You are just lying out of ignoranceBut tell me your opinion politics. I really.. really care
>>23761347Me own fucking bomb!
>>23761424It was control who gave the order. https://youtu.be/3jdDBgmd_Nc?si=acvUpI_0aYWnnnAo
>>23761364Yeah, continuing the war would've saved lives...
>>23761437>every single thing thats every happened is a conspiracy that you are being lied to aboutsounds like a fun life you lead
>>23761384Propaganda for what? Oppenheimer's Communist ties are well documented. The guy was a Stalinist. If anything, Nolan's film is the propaganda, or at least the book he based his film on.
>>23761351Bravooo nolan
All theseIntellectuals..Debating over an event ..That never took place in reality...For hours ..While the truman Oppenheimer weekly lettersAre in public view Go on
>>23761368>The use of nukes was regrettableNo it wasn't. Two bombs wasn't enough. Fuck the japst. Chink
>>23761435Hadrian killed the entirety of Jews and all that remained after were pretenders. Supreme cope by the Jewish diaspora that Hadrian left any survivors. WW2 is a synagogue of satan plot
>>23761446The only thing i know about anything is the first most common joke 4chan spams about it. If i see a dog and a woman in public i assume they’re fucking. I know most people by one overblown spammed quote they said in passing
Come on Gen zTell me about an event that never happened And why it happened For hoursJust ignore the two were close friends until deathGo On
>>23761443Its a great time actually. Do you want me to explain to you how the atom bomb is a soul killer by design?
>>23761419thats false
>>23761436>the nuke killed ten thousand of innocent Christiansabsolutely based. imagine how fucking gay and lame a catholic japan would have been. there wouldn't even be japanese people left, it would all be jews and brown migrants like every other cathgolem shit hole. the US gave them 80 more years of Japan for the Japanese with that nuke.
>>23761449The movie took it from generals drunken bookOppenheimer and truman remained close friends until death frequently writing letters and seeing each other Look at this thread. That Gen z and foreigner trash Just lying out of ignoranceHaving world politics debates over an event that never happened and the reality is the opposite Just lookSign
>>23761419the secrete society of homosexual orgy havers would not have stopped just bc of one jew. Now if jack parsons never got involved....
>>23761451soul killer? like a weapon from the game soul caliber?
>>23761456If a human or animal soul can be seen as an electromagnetic forcefield, then a nuclear explosion is capable of disrupting it entirely
>>23761457souls are a fictional concept. might as well be talking about ghosts
>>23761458Scientists have always said there was no such thing as a soul, now they are in a position to prove it.
>>23761458Well he doesn't want to lose the argument so you can play semantics with him as he defines words the way he wants to winSilly, you are talking to human trash who lies out of ignorance without guiltWhat do you expect
>>23761460You don’t need to take yourself that seriously. We’re trying to tell stories here
>>23761461I hope you die brutally because truth cannot exist with people like you. I'm not your friend and you disgust me. Seriously I want to to be painful. Don't talk to me you dishonest piece of shit. :)
>>23761462So easily triggered by a little magic realism. It is the function of the guardian to nurture hybrids and mutants through the vulnerable stages of infancy
FDR initiates policies under new deal that only benefits the leftist cities. Sends the midwest to die. And confiscates Gold. This is the president the jews want you idolizing, kek. We know Truman stopped the Jews from demanding more white blood and the settlement was catholic cities in japan. This enrages the jew when pointed out. Not too mention the jewish occultism that theyll be further embarrassed about
>>23761347>Even with Germany out of the war the Jews still managed to nuke the 2 most Christian cities in Japan.
>>23761465>I will never stop blaming jews for every single event thats ever happened
Try to explain how and blood bones and brains of more-or-less three million gooks went down the drain, Mr Whoever Is Responsible for That One. All so you could use bodies and souls that were not yours, to sell the ground out from unborn feet forever. You have the wrong name and the wrong number
>jews willfully deny their government lending and central banking, since the bank of england, has deliberately caused every war since its inceptionlets go into the treaty of versailles and the jewish dispora approach of appeasing the German request for repayment? Or would it be too revealing the international banking cartel placed heads in usa, germany and bis and set germany up for non payment?
>>23761346There isn't a president who wasn't a war criminal, so he'd be talking out of both sides of his mouth if he started empathizing. Granted a lot of presidents do that too.
The film exaggerates Oppy's state of mind. He knew what he was doing and was glad that it worked. the whole "I have become death destroyer of worlds" was from Time magazine, not Oppy. He never said that or anything like it.
>>23761469the internet doesn't seem to care, but if you are never actually charged with or convicted of war crimes you are not in fact, a war criminal. The court of public opinion doesn't matter
>>23761466Before the 19th century they were pretty harmless actually
>>23761472bull fucking shit, since cromwell minimum
>>23761472/pol/ never says anything like that. to them Jews are behind every conspiracy theory and horrible world event for the last 2000 years. which makes it very hard to take them seriously
>>23761474there is no conspiracy, there is only money creation and a European Jewish international banking cartel that has perfected loaning money to governments. There is no meme, Jewish banking cartels are literally the enemy of mankind, because of their scheme of money creation through government taxation. Thats it
>>23761346He was upset that Oppenheimer presumed to take responsibility for the event despite his lack of authority (which rests with the president).Truman outright says as much in the movie, so it's bizarre that people get confused by the scene. (OP is memeing of course, but this happens irl). You have to remind yourself that 25% of people have an IQ below 90 and (evidently) can't comprehend basic statements or retain plot information. I guess if you're a moron every film is just a random series of images and sounds. Makes me wonder how smart people perceive average people like myself.
>>23761474you haven't been on /pol/ for awhile. Every since Trump became Jew #1, /pol/ has been sucking them off by shitting on the Palestinians.If you hate Jews, you hate Trump.
>>23761349>the japanese are too patriotic, our soldiers'll stop giving a shit after about 1,000 casualties, so we have to cheat and nuke them>sir, you can't nuke them anymore>wait what? we'll lose!every American war is just vietnam over and over again
>>23761349Oppenheimer never did that though. He didn't whine about what he helped create or how it was used. That is the fundamental point of this stupid film is that it is all a lie.Read a fucking book for once, moron.
>>23761477well at least half of /pol/ basically stands with muslims now. they went so far to the right that Trump himself isnt good enough anymore and neither is the whole concept of "the west"
>>23761478i mean, its very likely the japanese were ready to fight to extinction, still are, and we gave a false surrender ceremony so we didnt have to bomb the entire island
>>23761346Oppenheimer was a fucking hypocrite He wanted the bombs to drop on Germany to kill more white people but please don't drop them on le heckin innocent Japs
>>23761480Can't blame them. Muslims are family oriented and extremely conservative. It is Jews that are dividing up the Western patriarchical family lifestyle. It was always the Jews.
>>23761483fundamentalist Islam is the complete opposite of everything western thought has produced since the enlightenment. /pol/ just lets its absurd hatred of jews blind them to how fucking stupid what they believe has become
>>23761483Sounds to me like it’s you right wingers. You guys are the ones flooding every thread with thousands of these fuckin posts every day, I don’t see any kikes responding by doing the same. You guys are in control of all the branches of gov, the Supreme Court, and are the ones fucking this country’s laws, economy and stability up. All eyes are on you right now, and you’re showing the country that the worst shit the crazy lefties ever said about you was an understatement.Keep diminishing yourselves further, idgaf.
>>23761485you will never have a woman or black man hold office again and it's entirely your own doing. Now only a republican woman can ever win. Congrats, ya played yaself for a generation over TDS
>>23761364>Luckily good people with conscience who want to Heal the World gave the plans to the Soviets as well so the situation was balanced out shortlyYeah they were 2 backstabbing Jews that sold out their greatest ally and got their ass sent to the chair
Why are you asking us? shouldn’t you be asking>>>/his/ ?
>>23761346Everyone with a brain thinks like that. Dude invented an explosive device that could instantly obliterate everything in an entire mile's radius and then acts all surprised when they use it on people.
>>23761378Do you want a cookie? Do you want the archive user cookie-gold? Who's a good boy?
>>23761486none of that makes muslims good
>>23761436Japs killed far more Christian’s in China, Philippines, etc.
>>23761464
>>23761364Now that's a NVKE.
>>23761491are you really that daft, i thought you had a brain judging on your bravado ITT. You are crying about Citizens United and dont even know it, no the freemason wasp nation isnt under threat of a muslim takeover. Money is free speech is what you should be pining about. Corporations arent people and until that changes you can swim waist deep in a sea of shit that is the culture wars
>>23761475Maybe 80% of Germans shouldn’t have surrendered and licked ZOG boots then
>>23761483lol go move there then
>>23761493how mad were you jews when you found out you got okie doked and no one honored the Balfour declaration, just got rid of your jewish asses and left you with an unsolvable problem, kek. Yeah so smart you let wasp masons corner you in a forever war while you take the blame for everything
>>23761388Himmler was such a huge nerd
>>23761487lol the head of the SS police force worked for the Soviets to put down rioting East Germans in 1953 and you call Jews backstabbers
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>>23761402kek how based can one man be?
>>23761469>There isn't a president who wasn't a war criminalBen Franklin?
>>23761501you are a traitorous people, the middle east could have been catholic, but you are a vile and corrupt bunch that are spawns of satan. The nature to destroy your host nation is in your blood. You even hate yourself, for you can not even have a nation and be a jew. Tick tock jew, 8 decades hits very soon
>>23761500Stopping people from rioting and selling out your country by giving the enemy a super weapon is not even close to the same thing retard
Funny how everyone shut up as soon as they moved the thread to a board with flags...
>>23761397well i think the threat of authoritarianism is always a threat that one has to be on guard against but it does take root in the masses and populace as well, its normally this inconsequential mistake like “OOPSIES TYRANT ACTUALLY GOT INTO POWER HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?” But it’s the people who allow, follow along with and vote for such conditions that are to blame as well. Besides you can’t really have a tyrant for sure if nobody followed or believed in him. That is, if the populace really took active involvement in their democratic rights. There’s power in numbers basically.
>>23763881ugh fucking spelling errors wtf It’s not actually this inconsequential mistake*
