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The trans debate and transhumanism debate is the same exact thing. And I'm sorry to break it to you but most trannies are pro tech and AI; no need to jump of a building or anything dough even if I would enjoy seeing you fall.
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>>23812677
>no need to jump of a building or anything dough even if I would enjoy seeing you fall.
It all comes tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down
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>>23812677
as soon as you hear the words "The ___ debate" that means it's some glowie shit being force fed to you
you're better off knowing as few details as possible
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>>23812677
The future is kinda scary maybe technology won't advance exponentially but if it does humanity has a very fine needle to thread and right now it doesn't look so good for ideals like freedom and individualism.
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>>23812898
dawg "technology" is something other monkeys like you create/shape, same with those gay self-fulfilling scifi novels from the 20th century
you can literally do whatever you want, it's up to you
we all live in the same big roblox server
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>>23812916
Peter Theil is inside my walls.
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>>23812677
>The trans debate and transhumanism debate is the same exact thing
not really, no
not at all
the former is to do with a postmodern rejection of essentialism, in favour of a kind of Sartrean existential mutability of identity, which exists within a neomarxian academic framework (i.e. gender theory)—you are whatever you think are
whereas the latter is really more a modernist worldview in principle; it's better living through technology, asserting a technological mutability of essence—you are only what you are, but that essence is mutable

e.g. in gender theory, a man can think himself a woman, and that suffices to make him a women
whereas in transhumanism, he can have his brain surgically implanted into a synthetic, biologically-female body... and that makes him a man who had his brain implanted into a synthetic, biologically-female body

do you understand the difference?
they couldn't be more different in both theory and execution
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>>23812929
i feel you
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Until man becomes more than man he will forever lie in his prison called earth
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>>23812930
The emdash....
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I was thinking "this shit makes no sense" and was trying to pick it apart then I noticed it.
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Fully automated torment nexus glowies
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>>23813078
what about it?
have you never seen somebody use an em-dash before⸺or was the first time you encountered one in LLM output?
that's a 2-em dash
you might've encountered humans using punctuation more frequently if you'd actually read some books
>>23813084
>I was thinking "this shit makes no sense"
you not being intelligent or well-read enough to understand something doesn't mean that it doesn't make sense
it makes perfect sense

if you'd like to ask any questions about what I wrote, feel free
or just ask your robot
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>>23813190
I doubt you ever used an em-dash before it gained recognition through AI and now you're using it as a tool to feel special by claiming you used em-dash before anyone knew about it. You're a literal fucking hipster and you're not fooling anyone.
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I have nothing but love for trans people but I also have to admit I believe that part of growing up and becoming an adult is being comfortable in your own skin, even if you think that skin is the wrong gender. Old people are truly happy if you see them going to naked beaches or group saunas and seeing young people there shows that that society is promoting the right type of gender affirming stategies enough so that being naked around others doesn't mean that you are vunerable. That's my 2 cents anyway!
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>>23813084
Nah it definitely makes sense you just aren't equipped for the conversation maybe ask an AI to break it down in terms you can comprehend
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>>23813092
yeah
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>>23812677
The trannie payop is tricking trans into thinking we cared, but as soon as we get in your fields we push you out just like we did in ha because you're not an agreeable person. I am too brown for your gatekeeping to work, you'd get sued. I'm Indian
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>>23813200
Nice move melv- I mean no I a, is that before or after you let your dirty long acrylic nails dunk in your cold over sweetened coffee, broad legs? Not brod kegs
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>>23813211
I mean monica* sorry. Don't fire me.
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>>23813190
>you not being intelligent or well-read enough to understand blah blah blah
Yeah I remember my philbro "intellectual" phase. What a joke.
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Have thou art heard the tale of the miracle poultice of mecca and how the gingers of the world are in fact the descendants of ancient negroes?
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>>23813224
It's over
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>>23813198
you doubt it because it gained YOUR recognition through AI, and you don't like to imagine yourself as a moron who didn't know a basic punctuation mark before a fucking robot taught him of its existence—the fact you primarily associate it with AI betrays that; you're a man unfamiliar with considerately-written, academically-informed prose
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>>23813247
Ai is just Google but better until we shove it in a robot, quiet boomers
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>>23813252
if you think it's google but better you're a mongoloid
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>>23813247
I've been on this board for 15 years almost daily and you're the only person in that time frame to even attempt to use the em-dash unironically. I'll say it again: You're a hipster and you're not fooling anyone. Give it up.
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it's easier to use than google & gives better results if you don't know anything about computers, but a proper search engine has a much higher ceiling of usefulness

modern search engines are bricked intentionally to corral people to AI & keep the charade running a little longer, maybe get another 1-2 trillion US dollars to run off with
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>>23813252
Actually it is used by the military and was the key factor in the destruction of Iran's nuclear facilities earlier this year.
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>>23813261
are you gonna explain yourself?
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>>23813260
You just don't have any clue of the practical applications of a software with pattern recognition and classification abilities.
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>>23813255
You just look at a hoe and use it like a shovel, then blame me. Sit down boomer, go work at Amazon until it's all robots (I know a guy)
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fucking twitter board, just like /pol/ and /g/ and everywhere else
god i just wanted to use 4chan
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>>23813224
I don't think of myself as an intellectual, I just think of him as an idiot
don't make baseless presumptions about me based on some experience you had
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>>23813265
no, i do
that's what's so frustrating about the LLM companies, they aren't pursuing any of that
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>>23813267
Fuck off Melvin no one asked go out together Mecha or finger your butt or whatever
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>>23813247
The cope.
>>23812930
I'll tell you why it is the same because transgender people want to use technology to try and change themselves to be more like the opposite sex with hormone blockers, surgery, ect. Same as a transhumanist who wants to gene edit themselves to have purple skin. This is material reality not an abstract jerk off realm.
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>>23813262
Sure. They used AI technology to go over decades of surveillance footage and pgotographs from satellite imagery, spy planes, written intelligence and other factors.

It was also used by Israel to destroy Hamas earlier this year and locate the majority of their leadership for missile/air strikes.

Turns out being able to analyze the history of thousands of GPS tracking devices and make connections between them in a matter of minutes where it would take humans tens of thousands of man hours is a useful tool.

That clear it up for you lil bro?
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>>23813282
that's not what cope means
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>>23813298
that's machine learning technology more generally, not LLMs
LLMs are fucking retarded, not a good replacement for search engines, and not sustainable
that's all
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i understand there's atleast a couple IDs here just plugging shit into AI and pasting the results here while jerking off
it's boring
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you're all faggots high on your own supply of $100,000 salaries
you will never do or create anything memorable
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>>23813304
That's the dumbest thing I've read all day, even checkers need "llm's" get it fuck nigga retarded sorry ass NIGGER
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>>23813312
ok
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>mention trannies
>chuds and incels immediately flood in and keep the thread bumping
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>>23813258
>I'm informed by my limited experience, and presume my perspective to be completely representative of reality
...that much was already clear
if you'd never encountered an em dash before using a LLM, do you mind me asking what your level of education is?
it's not meant as a flex, or an own—I'm not looking to judge you—I'm genuinely just curious
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>>23813314
Cope harder, you're like a woman. When they're wrong they just bury their heads in the sand and hope a fart coming out their ass can be mistaken for being the bigger person, you're not the bigger person anon.. you're faggot. The sooner you realize this the sooner you stop wasting everyone's time with made up crap? Now you can agree, retard. It's asking me to find the star without a pair, I think it's you but I can't click that
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>>23813320
>I'm genuinely just curious
no you're not
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>>23813320
Bro, no one uses em dashes.
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>>23813325
that's not what cope means
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women should be protected

like, is anybody seeing this?
the fucking AI tool knows to say "Genuinely curious" and make sure everyone knows to curbstomp the native women of your country
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does nobody see anything?
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does anyone remember when elon musk pretended to be a voice actor who sounded exactly like elon musk, then went around threatening people & saying "i will melt your brain" and shit like that?
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>>23813333
You don't even know what words mean, you were agreeing as if I can't be talked to and youre "being the bigger person" it was 100% a cope but please disguise being a retarded little faggot as trolling more. Remember being a faggot is a legacy anon, not another day. Okay?
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>>23813320
No human being is reaching over and hitting alt + 0151 in their lab report or essay. Much less on a random 4chan post.
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>>23813342
Fuck off you don't know how to be you
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did someone rip off meliorator before me?
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>>23813320
>I'm genuinely just curious
Holy fucking Reddit, lmao
I have a masters degree in security management and also a CISSP. You are a hipster who thinks uncommon words and em-dashes make you superior to others. What try-hards like you don't understand is that vets of doing intelligent shit all day don't metaphorically wear suits, we wear Hawaiian shirts.
Get on my level.
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Killing the jannies made this a good thread, fuck em
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>>23813282
I'm not saying they're not superficially the same
don't get me wrong, I do understand your perspective of
>dey boh want change body
they do
you're right
but that's extremely shallow a similarity; the theory and the execution are much different, for the reasons I've already stated
but I'll reiterate:
they're completely opposed ideologically—one is modernist, essentialist, and decidedly capitalistic; the other is postmodernist, existentialist, and profoundly neomarxian

at the risk of oversimplifying my point for your ease of consumption:
one advocates changing WHAT you are—with the other making no such claim
whereas the other advocates the fluidity of being able to change WHO you are—with the other making no such claim
one comes from scifi, and the empirical sciences, and the other comes straight from the humanities, following in a line of neomarxist theories

in their most standard forms, they're directly opposed in what they claim
in transhumanism, you can't just say "I'm a human consciousness implanted into a giant robot spider" and that be reality—you actually have to do the implantation
and then, you are that because you are that
in gender theory, things like that are based on self-perception alone—a transgender person can be transgender purely based on an inauthentic self-conception
you are that because you imagine it to be so

do you understand?
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>>23813326
I am

>>23813328
I do

>>23813347
I don't use windows
><Multi_key> <minus> <minus> : "—" U2014
that's Alt Gr, dash, dash

>>23813355
interesting
so when you were doing research for your thesis, you didn't encounter em dashes?
when you read fiction, you don't encounter em dashes?
you just... don't see them as useful punctuation?
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>>23813388
More em dashes, I can't take you seriously.
>do you understand?
Yeah. And I would say that transgender people know and understand that thinking themselves to be male/female doesn't make them so but if it were possible they would do the steps necessary to make that happen. So uou are just wrong.
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>>23813403
No, I did not encounter them during my thesis. If I ever did, I saw them as dashes. All of this is besides the point. Again, I'm going to mention I have never seen them used on this site in particular for 15 years until a certain person (you) came by to act as if they are normal practice for academically literate individuals. I have interacted with many academically literate individuals on this site over the years and none of them are doing what you're doing now. You are obviously full of shit and everyone knows it. Just stop.
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>>23813432
>More em dashes, I can't take you seriously.
who gives a fuck
>And I would say that transgender people know and understand that thinking themselves to be male/female doesn't make them so
they do think it makes them a man/woman
'gender is a social construct', 'transgender'
do you see how that works linguistically?
compare the previous 'transsexual'
if they don't believe that merely thinking themselves the opposite gender makes them that gender, then they're not transgender, and they don't believe in transgenderism
it's entirely about identity—self-constructed self-image; thinking you are something making you that thing

>but if it were possible they would do the steps necessary to make that happen
right, but transhumanism alone doesn't assert that transplanting a male brain into a synthetic female body MAKES that male into a female
it makes them into a male whose brain was transplanted into a synthetic female body
it's essentialist, which is opposed to gender theory's existentialism—which is forced to deny essence even exists for it to function as a theory
transhumanism relies on there being essence, to be able to alter, and transcend that essence

gender theory relies on there being no essence at all, to be able to mutate oneself via the alteration of one's self-conception
and this kind of postmodernist view would be forced to argue that what it means to be human is always relative, making transhumanism functionally impossible; you can't transcend what it means to be human, if what it means to be human has no concrete meaning

can you really not see the difference, and why they oppose one another?
it's so obvious
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>>23813590
you said 'this board', now you want to pivot to the whole site?
intellectually dishonest, but okay
try /lit/ and /his/, and see if you find any
and maybe don't assume your experiences are all there is to know—that would be quite ignorant of you to do
>I've not seen it, so it didn't happen
do you have any idea what an idiot that makes you look?
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>>23813590
>You are obviously full of shit and everyone knows it
triangulation? really?
are you a fucking woman?
for that to work, mate, you're presuming I care what fucking /bant/ thinks of me
you're a socially-female groupthink retard

I write how I write, and what 'the group' thinks of me isn't going to change that
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>>23813641
>who gives a fuck
I do because I don't want to argue with a machine.

I was gonna respond to the other two things but I realized this conversation is dumb and I'm right.
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>>23813711
>this is dumb and I'm right
said despite not understanding the opposing argument?
you've not demonstrated that you can even intellectually engage with what I wrote, let alone argue against it
that's not being right—that's being too dumb to know you're wrong



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