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Why do some people pretend the medieval times didn't suck? The literacy rate was 10% and only about 50% of people made it to adulthood.
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>muh literacy
The only thing that literacy achieves is leftist indoctrination.

You don't need to be literate to work and be a productive member of society.
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Literacy mean writing and reading latin.
Mortality was high during all chapters of history.
Major developments or developments that laid the groundwork for the renaissance and onward were laid during the middle ages.
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>>23902895
>have house
>meaningful work
>loyal wife
>close community
>government that doesnt try to destroy you
>healthy food
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>>23902895
>The Under-Man is unconvertible. He will not bow to the new truth, because he knows that the new truth is not for him. Why should he work for a higher civilization, when even the present civilization is beyond his powers ?

>What the Under-Man wants is, not progress, but regress, regress to more primitive conditions in which he would be at home. In fact, the more he grasps the significance of the new eugenic truth, the uglier grows his mood. So long as all men believed all men potentially equal, the Under-Man could delude himself into thinking that changed circumstances might raise him to the top. Now that nature herself proclaims him irremediably inferior, his hatred of superiority knows no bounds.

>This hatred he has always instinctively felt. Envy and resentment of superiority have ever been the badges of base minds. Yet never have these badges been so fiercely flaunted, so defiantly worn, as today. This explains the seeming paradox that, just when the character of superiority becomes supremely manifest, the cry for levelling "equality" rises supremely shrill. The Under-Man revolts against progress! Nature herself having decreed him uncivilizable, the Under-Man declares war on civilization.

>These are not pretty facts. But we had better face them, lest they face us, and catch us unawares. Let us, then, understand once and for all that we have among us a rebel army the vast host of the unadaptable, the incapable, the envious, the discontented, filled with instinctive hatred of civilization and progress, and ready on the instant to rise in revolt.


---Stoddard, Lothrop: Revolt Against Civilization, the Menace of the Under-Man. 1922 Chapman and Hall
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>Owned house and land
>Virgin wife married to you at 15
>9 kids
>Small ethnically homogenous community you knew intimately and were a core part
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>>23902895
you're american't
you know nothing about anything so shut the fuck up NIGGER
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>>23902895
>little record keeping by mostly illiterate population that could not afford to waste pergament
>we have these super accurate statistics about that specific time period
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>>23902895
>literacy rate was 10%
the fuck you need literacy for, do niggers like you have any idea how expensive books were? fuck off!
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>>23902895
This propaganda campaign that christcucks have been doing these last decades by trying to change history is really funny, because their motivation is borne out of a miscalculation
Christcucks think history revealing christcuckery's societal effects are the reason why younger aryans are turning away from it, but it is, and will always be, because of how cucked, foreign, feminine, feministic, and kiked your desert death cult is, and no amount of rewriting history will change this
Semitic religions are doomed to fall in the next few centuries
Oh, and your brigades of literal shills, paid 3rd worlders, and now probably LLMs as well, will not change anything on /pol/ or elsewhere, but please, waste your money some more
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>>23902895
Most of the early deaths were from infant mortality. It was a good thing because it was a filter against mutants. We got rid of it and now we are drowning in mentally ill leftists.
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I am reminded of how many times people died building cathedrals because they didn't understand math since it wasn't taught to the public anymore post-Roman Empire. Projects often took decades, not for a lack of manpower or resources, but because they had no concept of how to make engineering work without math.

Dome collapses were a frequent occurrence. They'd go to the Pantheon, point at it, and go ME WANT DAT FOR CHURCH without understanding how it worked.
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>>23902895
Based. Why should I want everyone making it to adulthood? So there can be more traffic, lines, and trash everywhere? No thanks. Also, why the fuck would I want everyone literate, especially women? Immediately cross off 50% of the population being literate and BAM, there goes obnoxious "educated" feminist cunts, thank god. Knock off another significant number of males being literate and there would be much less "redditor"-type opinionated faggots out there. Holy that society would rule
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>>23902904
That's fascinating. Now try to translate that into English and tell us what you would like us to do about it.
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>>23902904
A more succinct way of putting it is that people are atheist these days specifically because they went to church as kids.

What did my church teach? Jews are superior, give money to Israel, blessed are nogs. It resonates with no one, and a religion must resonate or it will die.

No, pretending it is a "true" religion will not save it. Religion either serves a utility or it goes extinct. And this has always been the case. Esoteric overtures to being "saved" are meaningless. Every religion since the bronze age has said the same shit.
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>>23902895
That sounds horrible. You mean they couldn't consume the bing bing wahoo yipee games and badass Marvel films? I would kms myself literally.
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>>23902900
>owned house and land
feudalism lol
>9 kids
only 3 of them survived
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>>23902895
How peaceful it sounds. Imagine not living with millions of reddit trannies shouting their retarded opinions in canon.
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>>23902895
How much did it cost to have a house, a farmland, a virgin woman and 7 children in the Middle Ages compared to today?

Yeah that's what I thought.
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>>23902895
Normies being illiterate was a blessing for everyone
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>>23902895
At least colonial American larpers want to own land. I don't understand why people want to serve a feudal lord.
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>>23902916
>I don't understand why people want to serve a feudal lord
Imagine having your own personal armor-wearing paladin who rushes to your defense and slices some fucker in half when they try to steal your shit. Instead, we have a low-trust police surveillance state which spies on you and rushes in to arrest you if you dare harm some nigger trying to break into your house
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>>23902913
are you trying to say that the medieval people didn't have it so bad after all?
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>>23902918
Human intelligence peaked about 150-200 years ago. Modern people are retarded by comparison.
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>>23902918
"b-but, muh netflix"
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>>23902895
Its like zombie apocalypse larping. Everyone pretends they would be the survivor.
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>>23902895
Both are true. Farmer and working peasants are always a thing but history isnt about them because why would it be?
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>>23902922
"History" is the equivalent of Reddit- it revolves around faggots, degenerates, and retards. Like the literal club-foot tranny pharaoh or the drooling-mongoloid Spanish king. Both useless retards who would amount to precisely nothing if it weren't for history-writers' penchant for faggotry. Chad peasants had no need for "history" because they were too busy doing cool shit like building structures and fucking their loyal chaste wives every day
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>>23902895
Top = 800 AD
Bottom = 1200 AD
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>>23902897
In Latin and Greek*
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>>23902895
>The literacy rate was 10%
Based. 90% of people are NPC plebs and dont need to read.
>only about 50% of people made it to adulthood.
Based eugenics in action.
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>over 1000 years before His Highness Der Fuhrer
>kikes allowed to work with money
>kikes even had designated neighborhoods
>(((Christian))) church
>some war but it didn’t completely destroy Europe until after the Renaissance
>most people didn’t even speak a variant of Deutschlandic
We do not like the medieval period. NEXT!
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>>23902898
>Die from a fever at the age of 30
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>>23902929
you dont have any of those things though
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That time didn't suck, it was a golden age which is why all western fantasy is just repackaged medievalism. It was the white version of the garden of eden. The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
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>>23902895
If we lived in medieval times all the christkikes would journey far and wide to come visit me like they did with saint lidwina. They believed that god touched her hand so she would suffer for everyone’s sins. I wouldn’t like that
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>>23902895
a lot of people would probably be better off being illiterate. all they do with their literacy is to consume propaganda which fucks with their head
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>>23902898
>government that doesnt try to destroy you
Also government
>flagulation
>inquisitions
>witch burnings
>conscription into crusades
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>>23902929
>muh average life expectancy brought low by high infant mortality rate
Once you made it past 5 years of age you were set to live well past 60.
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>>23902898
Lets be honest the food wasn't that healthy for most of the year.
Especially during winters, food was basically porridge for the entire season for the common folk. But at least it wasn't chemically altered, so there's that.
Also, depending at what level of government and what period you're looking at, government was still trying to kill you. Your local lord? Nah he's an alright dude, the king was often a dick, however. Though still to a lesser degree than our current deeply corrupt governments that bow to no god other than coin.
The rest is pretty spot on though.
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>>23902929
>whining inferior genetic stock Swedcuck, obviously no Dolph Lundgren
No one wants you around more than 30 years, even that is bad enough
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>>23902910
But you could listen to troubadours to get your dose of fiction.
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>>23902895
Any age before modern age was hard. Before modern medicine most of us wouldn't survive childhood, modern farming and food preservation has reduced starvation, industrialization has allowed us to have luxuries that kings of yester years could only dream of and internet has made spreading of knowledge easier then ever. While current age has it's problems we should strive to make the next age better for our kids and their kids, just like our ancestors did for us.
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>>23902934
>witch burnings
Say no more. No need to conscript me, where do I sign up? God, what a badass time to be alive that must have been
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>>23902934
>flagellants
people whipping themselves for fun not the government
>inquisitions
we're talking about white mediaeval times not spain
>witch burnings
they didn't have to live with witches like us, based
>conscription
Yeah imagine fighting muslims with the full support of your government instead of just letting them rip you off on an industrial scale while they call you racist, how horrible.
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>>23902895
Medieval times were far superior to contemporary times in many ways. Peasants had lives and holidays. jew degenerate shit wasn’t in every home and on every corner.
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>>23902938
They didn't need much fantasy because they already lived in a heroic narrative.
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>>23902921
> Everyone pretends they would be the survivor.

That’s what is happening at any possible moment in time and always has. Aren’t we all larping as survivors each day?
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>>23902911
In almost all of Europe you owned the land and the house, but in most of Europe you didn't have freedom of movement and you were not allowed to sell your land, but no one could take it from you without due reason. You paid your taxes to your lord and church and he mightve had 2-4 lords above him until it was the king or emperor but your lord could not just take your land. In Russia the peasantry were serfs and they were slaves but with some restrictions on the lords.
In addition there were many free men among the peasantry, and the lords didn't have much control over them at all. In Sweden almost everyone were free men.
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>>23902920
can you form a coherent sentence?
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>>23902895
> literacy for plebs
why needed exactly?
> living a long life
why? you reproduce and have a meaningful life grounded in religion
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>>23902899
The more things change the more spiteful the mutant
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>>23902929
>had more in 30 years than your 90 year buglife
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>>23902947
They lived about as long as we do if you correct for infant mortality.
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>>23902895
>The literacy rate was 10% and only about 50% of people made it to adulthood.

When books are rare what's the point of needing to read? And your stats for life expectancy is skewed due to high infant mortality rates.
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>>23902895
Most people bring it up in comparison precisely because it did suck. As in "things are becoming so shit that even this era that everyone knows was shit had some things over us." The rest is just christkikes trying to do damage control for causing the dark ages.
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>>23902898
the government was destroying its people, kept them enslaved, waged useless wars killing fellow whites constantly. The food was subpar unless you were the King. The work wasn't meaningful, most of it was unskilled labor that could be performed while drunk.
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>>23902896
republicans and conservatives globally hate the Educated
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>>23902895
Jews were forced to wear a special hat to prevent them from pulling any of that "hello fellow goyim" bullshit.
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>>23902895
but why is that a bad thing?
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>>23902909
I was Catholic and as a kid we had to help NGOs house migrants here in Illinois. Many of the families in my community were housing Somalis, Eithopians, and other ilk. They worshipped Israel too. Funny enough I grew up in the same area as nick fuentes and charlie kirk, in the Chicago suburbs
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>>23902954
You don't have to be literate to be educated.
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>>23902934
nobody falls for the propaganda anymore shekelstein

>>23902920
have some pity on him. in the dark ages, he would never get Reddit updoots

>>23902913
yes. Good job reading between the lines, champ

>>23902911
>only 3 of them survived
as opposed to having zero children now. how terrible
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>>23902945
due reason was whatever accusation people would make against you. The entire dark ages consisted of greedy and superstitious people claiming others were heretics to steal their land and property. Knights Templar are a good example of that happening.
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>>23902895
Where and when in medieval times? It ranges from black plague no hope to infinite war rape to the very heights of civilization. Hell today is barely different in terms of range.
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>>23902953
>most of it was unskilled labor that could be performed while drunk
Sounds meaningful to me
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The number one reason why life is immeasurably better now compared to whatever past world vargtards and various larpers fantasize about is the general growth of sanitary practices and control of diseases and stuff. Virtually every human that existed prior to the 1800s would have had parasites of various types that they didn't even know existed, beyond all the diseases you would be liable to catch that literally don't exist now
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>>23902959
yes you do, understanding any level of instruction, for any level of skilled task requires literacy and mathematic skills. You are a moron anti-intellectual slave to the jews
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>>23902963
that's nigger-jeet slave level mundane activity
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>>23902955
dumb christians were still duped constantly because the Jews were in the Bible and Jesus was a Jew, its how the Jews got rich throughout the middle ages
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>>23902955
Kek, based.
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>>23902895
>Only 10-30% taxes
>ethnostate
>have a King who acts in your interest and keeps the invaders out

It was literal paradise, we didn't know how good we had it
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>>23902895
>muh literacy
Most people cant even read or write properly now. Those who can dont even care to, and most of those who care to are indoctrinated into Marxism
Universal education was a mistake, translating the Bible into English and Latin was also a mistake. Everyone should have been forced to learn ancient Greek to keep the Bible uncorrupted
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>>23902967
Cope and seethe faggot.
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I mean they were better than now but that’s not saying much. I’d go live in the early 1900s or Ancient Rome if I could.
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>>23902965
No it doesn't lol, you think blacksmiths and tanners were reading textbooks not being taught verbally? What you think of as education is a mass-produced facsimile and substitute for having a teacher that both knows what they're talking about, teaches something useful and is invested in you learning it. A system for training bugpeople to be disposable employees created by the industrial revolution.
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>>23902966
Working while drunk sounds good to me.
>that's nigger-jeet slave level mundane activity
You talk as if something is bad just for being mundane or simple, some people like doing physical labour, or having a simple life.
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>blah blah blah if you don't like the cyberpunk dystopia you're a heckin under-man
That Stoddard faggot must have been high as a kite off his farts
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>>23902904


>>23902925
kek

>>23902952
>believing the dark ages meme
LOL
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>>23902895
>But bro the peasants worked less hours than us and....

SHUT THE FUCK UP. I AM TIRED OF HEARING YOU PATHETIC FUCKS WHINE ABOUT HOW "GOOD" LIVING IN THE FUCKING STONE AGE WAS.

PEOPLES AVERAGE AGE WAS 30 OR LESS, THERE WAS NO MEDICINE, YOU COULD DIE OF A FUCKING SCRAPE FROM INFECTION, HALF YOUR CHILDREN WOULD DIE IN FRONT OF YOU BEFORE HITTING 18, NO ELECTRICITY, NO MODERN RUNNING WATER, WAR WAS EVERYWHERE. I COULD GO ON AND ON.

SITTING HERE ON THE FUCKING INTERNET IN YOUR AIR CONDITIONED ROOM EATING YOUR FUCKING FASTFOOD GOYSLOP WATCHING YOUR FUCKING NETFLIX OR PLAYING YOUR VIDEO GAMES

IT WAS A BRUTAL FUCKING WORLD, YOU SPOILED LITTLE SHITS. HOLY FUCK CAN THE ELITES JUST KILL YOU ALREADY.
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a lot of people farmed land they owned and sold their produce at the market and rioted if the taxes were raised to 20% from 10%
they didn't need to read
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>>23902950
This, high infant mortality will heavily skew any life expectancy statistic
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>>23902964
That's nice overblown fear-mongering, meanwhile here in modern reality literally every chick has STDs now past age 15, nevermind taking literally hundreds of dicks on average
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>>23902977
The Reddit bot is broken
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>>23902934
>flagulation
not a government thing
>inquisition
not a government thing
>witch burnings
not a government thing and mostly not a medieval thing
>conscription
not a medieval thing
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>>23902977
You are not very convincing.
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>>23902977
>SHUT THE FUCK UP. I AM TIRED OF HEARING YOU PATHETIC FUCKS WHINE ABOUT HOW "GOOD" LIVING IN THE FUCKING STONE AGE WAS.
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>>23902973
this makes sense. i think its why the liberals want us to stop homeschooling. i work trades and i never really needed to learn how to read or write either.
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>>23902895
It was a mixed bag. You'll never have a perfect period of history, only brief times of respite.
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>>23902895
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>>23902895
What was there to read for the average person?
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>>23902934
lmao this is the power of american education.
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>>23902895
Sounds great, peasants are too stupid to interpret writing properly and 50% of people are worthless runts
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>>23902989
This might go without saying but none of that is covered by our education, he got it all from pop culture.
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>>23902895
would rather be illiterate in an ethnostate
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>>23902895
There is probably a lot to hate about living in any time period. Today people live in total abundance and many have to take mind altering drugs to keep from killing themselves. People are funny.
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>>23902992
based
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>>23902895
Test
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>>23902895
>the literacy rate was 10%
Yeah because peasants don't need to read as a function of their work. You harvest wheat and plow fields. People were happier then because economies were local, society was family oriented, and people were only expected to do what they could tangibly achieve instead of chasing some abstract vanity to distract from isolation like we have now. A peasant's life only drastically sucked in times of extreme famine, and at that point if you were still alive you'd take whoever's left of your family and live in the city where you'd either become a peddler, or a beggar if you couldn't manage to sell anything. I think people like to pretend that the medieval era in europe was somehow this dystopian nightmare because a majority of people were manual laborers while ignoring the fact that a majority of people in today's society are still inclined to that type of work. Most people are rather simple and expecting a majority of your populace to consist of philosophers, theologians, and scientists would only be possible if you outsourced all the labor to a caste of slaves who aren't technically considered part of the populace. The problem with today's world is that we have this insane expectation that we can somehow mold simpletons into becoming geniuses merely by forcing them to sit in desks, read, and repeat information all day; the end result being that we've set up a majority of our populace for failure by hoping they can be something they aren't rather than ensuring what they are is undisturbed.
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>>23902895
Everyone thinks they would be the knight, noble or some other important person instead of the countless nobodies that died in a ditch. Actual le west has fallen midwits who have been psyopped into thinking their life is miserable due to one or two specific things that would be fixed if only they lived 100's of years ago. We used to make fun of these born in le wrong generation faggots, but as with anything on the internet they found like minded people and started to think their retardation was popular
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>>23902997
>t.
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>>23902895
Because all my ancestors were rulers and conquered their enemies on a whim
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>>23902997
>not peasantmaxxing
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That's the thing, literature was written for audiences with advanced minds because the hands and feet of society were not expected to learn how to read. As a result the quality of literature was higher because it was impossible to dumb anything down and expect to be taken seriously. The vocabulary of any book written before the 20th century of light years advanced compared to the simplified, sensationalist, and jargon filled slop we have today.
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>>23902895
Both sides of the argument are guilty of bait and switch tactics. The Medievalists will always point to the accomplishments of the late middle age to show how good the era was and the modernists will always point to the early middle ages and the fallout of the collapse of Rome. On the whole the middle ages weren't the mud-drenched hellhole that modernists pretend they are (outside of the British Isles but nothing there has changed) nor are they the tradcath Utopia that medievalists love to shill. Was it better than present day? Yes, but that is an extremely low bar to pass.
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>>23902895
>The literacy rate was 10%
that is only if you use the medieval meaning of literate, meaning you could write and read old greek and latin
almost all people in medieval times could read and write in their own language, but without standartization, so the writing heavily mirrors dialects and accents
>and only about 50% of people made it to adulthood
that was pretty normal until modern medicine and protocols were established
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>That stick
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>>23902898
Nigger they ate vegetable soup and bread that was hard as a rock for every meal the entire year except for a few sparse holidays where they got meat. It may have been healthy but don't pretend like the food was palatable.
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>>23903001
Everyone's an "e-celeb" now too, so all the "know-it-alls" and educational content is shoddy and rehashed. Just noise everywhere
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>>23902934
>flagulation
that came after in the renaissance, that everone felates
>inquisitions
not as brutal as jews try to paint them as
just don't be a false converter
>witch burnings
very rare in medieval times
it mainly happened in the renaissance, that everone felates
>conscription into crusades
conscription is widely used in modern times
taking some farmer from the fields is not going to boost your other continent invasion
in short, you are gay and stupid
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>>23902899
This is peak Edwardian Anglo-Saxon pseudo-phrenology type stuff. Embarrassing read.
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>>23902895
>The literacy rate was 10%
Anon, I...

I don't have the heart, someone else tell him.
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>>23902934
I would gladly flagillate myself, if it brought back inquisitions, so we could burn the witches, and free up focus on domestic politics to give me time to focus on crusading in the Holy Land.
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>>23903010
Holy based.
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>>23902895
Because we are serfs with 1/10 actual freedom and have to put up with 10x of the kikery.
>b-but muh insta whore tour vids??
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>>23902895
It was a far less fucked up version of the 1800s if you lived anywhere remote, only thing worse were slavers, which were still around until the 1800s anyway.
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Okay fuck it I will be honest. USA and Israel didn't existed back then.
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>>23902985
>>23902959
Miggers showing that they’re actually retarded like we’ve known for decades
Lmao
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>>23902895
The smell would literally make you sick, also the plagues
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>>23903008
Now how does the Under-Man look at civilization? This civilization offers him few benefits and fewer hopes. It usually affords him little beyond a meagre subsistence. And, sooner or later, he instinctively senses that he is a failure; that civilization's prizes are not for him. But this civilization, which withholds benefits, does not hesitate to impose burdens. We have previously stated that civilization's heaviest burdens are borne by the superior. Absolutely, this is true; relatively, the Under-Man's intrinsically lighter burdens feel heavier because of his innate incapacity. The very discipline of the social order oppresses the Under-Man; it thwarts and chastises him at every turn. To wild natures society is a torment, while the congenital caveman, placed in civilization, is always in trouble and usually in jail.

---Stoddard, Lothrop: Revolt Against Civilization, the Menace of the Under-Man. 1922 Chapman and Hall
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>>23902997
>instead of the countless nobodies that died in a ditch.
if this was true, than why the extreme effort and resources put in to prevent me from learning about who I am and where I came from?

All i learned in school was whypipo bad and browns and women get handicapped points because fuck white men, etc.. etc..

there is no record of my ancestry from Rome. Why is that
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>>23903015
>If they were smart they’d vote for replacement level migration and an end to all western values in favor of third world ones
Weird assertion from a smuggy
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>>23902895
Historically, and still now I guess, governments have no right to collect tax higher than 9.9% because the Church asks only for 10% tithe.
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>>23902895
the life-expectancy age is drastically brought down due to infant mortality.
yeah its bad when babies are dying during and near birth, but after that people were living to ages we get to today.
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>>23903021
lol no, the part about infant mortality is true but people lived to 40-50, 60 was already old age and not all too common especially among the lowest plebs
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>>23903022
Sounds pretty nice to me. Who wants to be old? The only people who want to get older and older forever are spiritual atheists afraid of death.
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>>23902895
ameimutts believe all communist propaganda about this period without thinking
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>>23902952
Not really. Not like it's portrayed in Hollywood anyways.
There's very little historical documentation on what peasant life was actually like.
The Martin Gurrer case is a rare exception. It's a 16th century imposter case that resulted in lengthy documentation of a peasant's life due to the nature of the case. Otherwise, people generally weren't recording what normal people's lives were like through most of history.
Imposter situation aside, his life was pretty damn normal. Worked a job, as cobbler if I remember, had a wife, family, decided to leave for war. When someone was suspected of impersonating him, it was taken to court.
If this were a hollywood movie, they would have lived in a shack, they wouldn't have had jobs, there would be no court because people would just be killing each other lawlessly.
Instead everything was dealt with in a very civilized manner, a lot like today.
Hollywood would have you thinking everyone lived in muddy shacks and just murdered each other left and right until a few generations ago.
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>>23902895
>About fifty percent of people made it to adulthood
Anon your modern culture a
Has killed more children in fifty years than all the casualties in all the wars of human history combined.
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>>23903009
>arriving to college
Arriving at* college
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>>23902904
You're right, the Portuguese should have slaughtered you cannibals down to the last monkeyfucking nigger.
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>>23902895
>The literacy rate was 10%
books weren't widely accessible until the printing press
>and only about 50% of people made it to adulthood.
that was true of every time until modern medicine
besides medicine QoL is worse is almost every other way
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>>23903017
>The menace of the man who doesn't like getting fucked in the ass
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>>23902895
Yeah i don't get it, life would have been constant toil and heartbreak.
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>>23902997
most people in any time are nobodies. did living in the 21st C make you a somebody?
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>>23902895
Because kids aren't fully developed enough to suffer (90% of that mortality was kids), plus the ones that did make it were healthier.
And literacy while lovely just ain't super relevant to things sucking or not sucking.

The only things they failed at was food and to a lesser extent medical stuff, and while we still do that better that ain't so certain anymore thanks to the obvious worsenings most who weren't born yesterday have noticed.
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>>23902929
Bro as a guy in his mid 30s you will have lived a full life by now. Jesus fucking christ how much life do you really need to experience to get this is some sick satanic spiritual trap to force people to experience samsara through infinite deaths?
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>>23902956
>serf worked 20 hours a week

Retard, every waking second was work
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>>23902959
You people are fucking cattle kek
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>>23903034
based. blood pressure meds and shit have doomed us to stagnation as each generation of oldfucks sacrifices the next to cling to satan's kingdom a few years longer
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>>23903036
If you wanted to make free people into cattle the first thing you would do is teach them to read your codified instructions and make advancing in society revolve around that instead of talking to each other. You have been trained to read but not to think.
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>>23902895
>clean food (no genetically edited slop full of chemicals that save the company 0.01$ but poison you slowly)
>ethnically homogeneous society (no niggers)
>top 0.001% doesn't control 50% of all the wealth and assets
>cheap home that you can build wherever, no taxes or build codes
>easy to get a loyal wife who will never betray you (you can beat her up whenever needed)
>almost no taxes
>clean air
>no surveillance state, entertainment available is books, art or simple games
>you work 30% of the year and chill for rest of the time (no 8h + commute wageslavery for 40 years)
It was better than it is now, that's what ((they)) don't want you to know.
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The outside world mustve felt magical. Imagine ur some shitserf and hearing about Alexander the Great or about some big battle far away.
And then random plague or warband kills u lol.
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>>23902898
All absolutely wrong except maybe "community closeness" in niche cases such as monasteries.
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>>23902934
lol those impacted like .001% of the population
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>>23902895
>only about 50% of people made it to adulthood.
Something about this doesn't sit right with my Jewdar.

At the begining of the 20th century, white people made up over 30% of world population. Now white people are 8%, and if you only look at people under 20 years of age, white people are at 2% of global population.

If this is true, how did it happen that white populations exploded under the bad old dark ages? How is it possible that white people are going extinct now that we live forever in happiness under the rule of Jews? Are you including all the white people murdered in Jewish abortion mills in your statistics? Do all the white men killed in wars for Jewish supremacy from WWI to Ukraine then replaced with jeets and niggers count in your statistics?

Something doesn't add up.
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>>23902936
Also, if the harvest failed people became malnourished and starved to death or more easily succumbed to disease. If you lived in the medeival warm period life was probably pretty awesome on the continent. A lot of that was due to great harvests and a plague having wiped out much of the population though, same kind of environment as post war America and Europe.
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>>23903017
Again - a stiff upper lip smug version of watered down Platonism. Something to read with afternoon tea.
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>>23903005
>Nigger they ate vegetable soup and bread that was hard as a rock for every meal the entire year except for a few sparse holidays where they got meat
No, they ate dairy and eggs almost every day. And pigs were cheap to raise for slaughter.
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>>23902896
Orange nigger piss off.
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>>23903047
>Orange nigger piss off
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>>23902896
Everyone should be able to read scripture and know the word of God with their own eyes
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>>23903049
>incoherent jewcuck babble
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>>23902896
Can't have pesky words on paper filling people's heads with dangerous concepts such as rights, huh?
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>>23903017
>We have previously stated that civilization's heaviest burdens are borne by the superior.
Do people actually believe this horseshit or is this brilliant parody?
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>>23902895
Thats why it was better.
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>>23902925
One thing that is true is they would not have had blue clothes. For most of human history, blue dye has been notoriously expensive and rare, limited to royalty since the only real way to make it was through lapis lazuli. We did not have cheap and available blue dye until the 18-1900s.
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>>23902895
everyone that you know that had Appendix problems would be dead, lol
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>>23902934
>conscription into crusades
anon... the conscription is a modern thing, back then the peasants weren't forced to fight and die
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>>23903039
>Simple food
>Only options of work on something or fuck wife to pass time
>Every injury crippling
>Feel like shit constantly
You could have the peasant lifestyle right now If you actually wanted it
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>>23903030
Tell us who is oppressing you, comrade.
>>23903045
Kind of stings a bit to learn that the original Eugenics movement would have lumped unadaptable malcontents like you in with niggers and Jeets, huh?
>>23903052
You can download the book for free and see if you can come up with a refutation.
It's cool though, I'm sure he didn't mean you, you're a broke loser virgin now, but you'd totally thrive as a subsistence farmer if we could just get rid of civilization that you're just too smart for.
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>>23902895
Wow that's deep. Because cathedrals and universities were very common.....
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>>23903058
>You can download the book for free and see if you can come up with a refutation.
There is nothing to be refuted. Its just an overly verbose nigger flashing his bling and complaining about player haters.
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>>23902895
>and only about 50% of people made it to adulthood.
Retarded circumcised opinion.
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>>23902895
Why do you pretend that literacy is important to have a fulfilling life? And yes, children died, boo hoo, who cares. People have problems with depicting middle ages as hell on hearth where peope lived in filth, never washed, smelled, ate gruel, were constantly exploited and tortured. There's a huge tiktok lies spreading industry
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>>23903057
That, and everybody had worms. I am so glad pyrantel and mebendazole exist today
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>>23902920
What you call a peasant house housed a family of 12 and another 6 hired workers, farmhouse animals, agriculture tools, hays stocks etc. And they certainly didn't have their owm rooms like people do today
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>>23902898
dont need to read the replies to know its all
>ACKshually
ITS ALWAYS BEEN BAD GOY!!!
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>>23902895
high birth and childhood mortality rates lasted through the 19th century.
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>>23902904
>christcucks
Somehow you misspelt 'jews', jew.

I hope the Persians turn your family into charcoal.
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>>23902960
>as opposed to having zero children now. how terrible
you can have 5 children now if you want. You make the choice not to
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>>23902895
Reading only leads to misery, no think = happy lyfe
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>>23903062
british women, circa 2026, colourized
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>>23902906
>Trust me bro
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>>23902981
>>23902984
>>23902983

I SHOULD MAKE A TIME MACHINE JUST TO THROW YOU FUCKS BACK TO MEDIEVAL EUROPE. SEE HOW LONG YOU LAST. YOU COULD KEEP YOUR CURRENT MEMORIES LIKE THOSE GAY FUCKING ISEKAIS YOU LOVE SO MUCH.

OH I LOVE BEING A PEASANT SERF PLOWING MY FIELD UNTIL THE LOCAL LORD SENDS ME OFF TO DIE. VERY BASED AT LEAST EVERYONE IS WHI-ACK. GLAD I ONLY LOST MY ENTIRE ARM IN THAT WAR, TIME TO SEE MY BEAUTIFUL WIFE AND CHILDREN, OH OOPS THEY RE ALL DEAD FROM THE PLAGUE BECAUSE WE WERE DUMPING SHIT IN THE STREETS

FUCKING FAGGOT NEET INCELS WHO DON'T EVEN LEAVE YOUR ROOM, YOU WOULDNT LAST 10 MINUTES.
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>>23903072
>OH I LOVE BEING A PEASANT SERF PLOWING MY FIELD UNTIL THE LOCAL LORD SENDS ME OFF TO DIE.
Better than being abducted by a press gang to die for a faggot foreign jewish clown
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>>23903073
REINHART HEYDRICH WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE SLAVS, BASED JEWS JUST FINISHING THE JOB.
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>>23902895
Still better than medieval China or India etc. Or Africa.
>>23902898
chivalry only extended to knights, to nobility.
If you're a peasant, you and your family are getting killed because your lord joined the wrong team and lost the war.
It wasn't like in these romantic novels for young boys.
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>>23903035
no you literally didn't work the farm during winter retard
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>>23903054
Shut up retard.
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>>23902907
lol. Well put, sir.
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>>23902895
christcucks try and claim they saved the world, when in reality brought dark ages when they were in control of europe. sad.
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>>23903074
>BASED JEWS
You've been found out, rabbi
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>>23903076
No but you still had to wash clothes and cook food which were all day tasks. Taking a shit also happened outside
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>>23902897
>were laid in antiquity
>preserved by muslims
>accelerated when constantinople fell
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>>23902895
The cathedral pictured in the bottom was the church to a cemetary known for being putrid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Innocents'_Cemetery
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>>23902974
>tf
>tp
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>>23902954
what have you been educated with?
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>>23902906
>Dome collapses were a frequent occurrence
You suffer from frequent erectile dysfunction, don't you?
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>>23903054
Just because lapis was expensive doesn't mean that every single blue dye was expensive. They had plenty of cheaper blue dyes during the middle ages.
The whole "literally no one ever saw blue until the 20th century because it was so rare/expensive" retarded. You are a redditor.
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took them like 300 years to build a cathedral, so reluctant were the poor peasants to put a monument of jewish conquest
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>>23903076
no but you still had a shitload of crap to do, and your lord would give you more things you had to get done. king's gotta eat, and the lord of the land will ensure you're paying your fair share.
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>>23902895
It is because kikes attacking european history
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>>23902940
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>>23902942
Jews lived on ghettos segregated from whites kek
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>>23903054
Woad blue was cheap. Deep royal blue was expensive. Same with certain purple dyes. Royal purple was expensive while basic purple was cheap. Both of the cheap dyes were from flowers you can find growing like weeds in the UK even today.
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>>23902946
It's okay, shlomo, we realise yiddish is your first language, and anguish is hard.
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>>23902928
What is the fuhrer close to a richard lionheart, frederick II or louix IX... honestly ? kys muttnigger
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The medieval period is where the EUROPEAN ARYAN MAN achieved its highest civilizational level, with universities, scientific method, scientific revolution, the perfection of ancient graeco-roman science, etc... /pol is majority shitskins apes

https://historyforatheists.com/2024/09/the-great-myths-15-what-about-the-dark-ages/
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>>23903072
Nah, I'd win.
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>>23902954
Educated =/= Intelligent, which is why the problem nowadays lies mostly just with 'Liberal Arts' uni grads that have been spoon-fed kike propaganda for decades.
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>>23903062
>be me
>greatest day of my life
>goooing to the chapel, and iiiim gooooing to get marrieeeed (to the love of my life)
>someone dumps their chamberpot out of their second story window onto my brand new nikes
>shout my god's name as an obscenity in anger
>wonder why your ancestors didnt come up with a better system of waste disposal and remember its because they were stupid godsless heathens, duh
>finally arrive and the jewish priest demands a tithe, tell him fuck off you paid last week
>"how can you put a price on the redemption of your soul, my child?" as he rubs his hands profusely
>you wont be able to eat for a week but pay him anyway, who cares this is the happiest day of my life
>you get married to the love of your life and leave the church in spectacular fashion and be sure to not to step in the ganghes puddles on the way
>you play hopscotch like youre avoiding landmines
>finally get her home and theres a bunch of zogbots inside looting your shit
>"WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS?"
>out steps your jewish prince with the overly localized sounding name whose family's provenance only goes back a generation before they assumed power
>he says hes here to claim his right of prima noctis and fucks your wife while youre forced to listen
>throws you a shekel with some weird looking nigger with a bone through his nose on it as he leaves
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THIS DAY CANT GET ANY WORSE
>notice a boil on your arm
>FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>tell your wife to gtfo and go get the doctor
>its just the jew from the church in a funny mask
>he tells you he can cure you
>pulls out his jew dick and pisses on your boil
>you manage not to die somehow and swear by jewish piss as the remedy for plague sickness
>your mom gets sick tho and does die
>wait for someone to yell BRING OUT YOUR DEAD so you can donate her to the jewish prince's catapults to infect the next town over
>9 months later youre father to the jewish prince's baby
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>>23902956
>>23903035
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>>23902895
Since we have a lot of accounts of the Victorian Era and if they were any indication of the past, it's easy to say the medieval times were fucking awful. The aristocrat class were never nice
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>>23903101
it was literally just a jewish playground
kids could be abducted and murdered at any time, justice system allows it
jews poisoning your water and wiping out a third of the continent
where to even begin
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>>23902895
>we call it the "dark age" because it is a historical blind spot due to the lack of data
>but let me assure you, we have data on how many people could read and how many died and when
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>>23902895
Little dirty story about medieval survival rates. Firstly you must know it's due to stillbirth. Secondly it's due to the fact that the only way to "abort" was right after the birth
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>>23903055
oh no, 0 people would be dead
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>>23903096
we had all of that 2000 years prior tho
so what was responsible for the giant gap where history and progress sort of just... stopped?
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>>23902895
i no longer believe anything about written hiatory.
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>>23902977
source?
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>>23902895
It's basically that The Middle Ages weren't as primitive as their portrayed. A lot of your leisure was church centric , but at least you got time off thanks to them. Go to mass on Sunday morning and get a day off from labor. There were also a ton of festivals for holidays as well as for saints and other figures. The villages were also a lot cleaner than the cities that came afterwards. I don't think any of us would want to live there knowing what we know now, but it wasn't the complete shit hole that people think it is.

https://www.cracked.com/article_20186_6-ridiculous-myths-about-middle-ages-everyone-believes.html
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>>23902977
You are not wrong, at all, but if you are frustrated by other people's illusions and can't get a handle on that, then you're in for a rough go. Just pretend you're on a rocky, ridiculous roller coaster, and that will help.
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>>23902898
>>government that doesnt try to destroy you
the government was the local lord and he had no problem sending you to your death if his lands needed defending
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>>23902895
Yes, some areas were literal shitholes of constant death, disease, slavery, and war ie anatolia, Iberia, and the balkans given that Christendom was fighting a a centuries long existential war against Islamic conquest. Kingdom Come Deliverance shows what it was like in a more peaceful, politically stable area like Bohemia, which was pretty comfy desu.
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>>23903107
>the giant gap where history and progress sort of just... stopped?
When was that?
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>>23903113
KCD starts with the brutal murder of your family at the hands of invading cavalry. KCD2 continues this motif in the climax when you ride a cavalry charge into the people who killed your family
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>>23902896
It's good to have a high literacy rate. High IQ populations have no excuse not to have near 100% literacy. Reading can totally change your life and is a much more useful medium for spreading any ideas, not just leftist ideologies. Dumbing down your populace because youre afraid of leftist indoctrination is retarded.
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>>23903057
I do have it, and it is superior.
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>>23902895
Things were physically difficult then but we're psychologically easy. Today things are reversed.
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>>23903051
Rights are naturally derived. Any rights you need to be able to *read* in order to know isn't an actual right. There is but one law -- natural law.
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>>23903115
The point is that the opening scene was a massive interruption to the normal pace of life in Central Europe, whereas in the areas I just mentioned it was a daily occurrence.
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>>23902895
Cause the degree to which it sucked is exaggerated to such retarded levels, that questioning it becomes the only option.

High child mortality is very true until the industrial era. But low literacy at that time doesn't make your life much worse.

Working a lot less hours and generally having your needs met is not the end of the world.

Sure, more technology makes life better, but the normie circlejerk around how everything was terrible and dirty back then is kinda retarded
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>>23902895
if you don't think that <50% of the population shouldn't have lived longer than 9 or 10 years likely you shouldn't have.
>inb4 wat??
most people alive have subhuman levels of literacy anyway. ~%10 is all that's needed for scholars, medical practitioners anyway
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>>23903114
from about the time of Constantkike to the fall of constantinople, when all the european literature starting flooding past the greatest jewish firewall back into europe.
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>>23902905
This. Most people who survived early childhood lived until their 60's and 70s. In fact the number of people of 100+ years of age has declined slightly over time.

>>23902906
>I am reminded of how many times people died building cathedrals because they didn't understand math
The people who planned and executed them understood math but there were still some accidents. It was nothing like building the Hoover Dam, where dozens and according to some accounts, hundreds, died not long ago.
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>>23902896
Who in a sane mind writes stuff like that
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>>23902896
No anon your conflating knowledge with wisdom
Theyre not neccessarily mutually exclusive but sometimes they can be related
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>>23902897
High middle ages barely have any records. People.just stopped recording things. This means culture had a downgrade from greco-roman period.
Low middle ages have things starting to go back to normal
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>>23903027
matriculating is too difficult a word as well.
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>>23902895
some ((people)) have a vested interest in making everyone believe by default that humans in modern society are living the best version of human life to ever exist.
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>>23903064
>not in their own rooms
White peasants are still white people.
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>>23903121
You are wrong
>more technology
makes you life directly worse in every measure.
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>>23903034
>someone didn't take his meds
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>>23902956
>owned his land
thats not what a serf means retarded nigger
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>>23902895
What was the point of literacy if most people were farmers?
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>>23902895
>only about 50% of people made it to adulthood
Less than 50% of our 40 year olds are adults.
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>>23902895
The top is true, but only in small villages, larger towns and cities is the bottom version.
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>>23902895
Those numbers are skewed. 50% of people survived to the age of 5. Once you got past that average life expectancy was 60-70.

Also ignorance is bliss. Who the fuck cares about being illiterate if there are no fucking books to read.
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>>23902976
do you believe in nordic israelism, yes or no?
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>>23903001
>That's the thing, literature was written for audiences with advanced minds because
Christianity avoided the intellectuals like the plague because the bible was too easy to see through at the time.
Literacy was for nobles and church missionaries that was mentally weak enough to be controlled, so they dont steal the church funds as they were meant to serve as tax collecters.

The christians taxed people so hard that people could barely live better live stan absolute goy cattle as they used those taxes to genocide any non-christian village.
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>>23903139
>Christianity avoided the intellectuals like the plague because the bible was too easy to see through at the time.
Christians literally created the entire concept of universities.
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>>23902898
Taxes were a thing. The bailif could decide to take your daughter if he wanted.
Also
>famine
>lack of medicine/leeches and blood letting for headaches
>miasma
>cut from farming equipment will in uttermost case make you die the horrid death of tetanus
++
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>>23903140
> Christians literally created the entire concept of universities.
no.
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>>23903129
(((Their))) cases would be much more believable if they would at least cede the fact that certain areas of life in the middle ages were in fact better than what it is today. But they won't so clearly they have some sort of agenda against this topic I just don't know why.
Also
>Muh diseases
>Noooo your a christcuck(Im totally not a jew)
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>>23903143
You are a brown asain, bro.
you think anyone cares if you think anyone else is brown, jeet and/or jew?
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>>23903144
Clearly here on vacation, and any race that hates jews and muslims are welcome.
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>>23903035
>never farmed
also almost everyone worked from home. shops, manufacturing, farming, ranching, even the head of state, most business owners (and their employees, who were more like adopted servants) never had to leave the house or land unless it was to go get something they needed.
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>>23902956
>worked 20 hours a week
I doubt it.
>owned his land
No. He was a renter. He had a landlord from the nobility to whom he owed a certain amount of labor.

Perhaps his farming averaged out to 20 hours per week. But that was sun-up to sun-down with maybe a few hours of break in between during the growing season 6 days per week. And then there are the problems in winter like needing to collect firewood.
>high quality, handcrafted goods
It really depends. The metal most available was cheap iron which was cheap because it was filled with slag. Higher quality iron tended to be more expensive. Iron tends to break most around the places with slag. Steel was expensive to produce and only was produced in relatively small quantities. Extremely cheap steel production wouldn't occur until it was produced in mass during the 19th century. Higher quality metal goods purchased today if you're not buying the bottom of the barrel tend to be much more affordable to the average person than in the medieval era.

Handcrafting itself can introduce variation in quality which needs to be addressed and skill can vary from village to village or town to town.
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>>23903009
What is the race of the students?
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>>23903087
making dyes of any color was easy, even purple, the difference was the quality of the dye. the better shit didn't fade or change colors and because it was more expensive it was generally reserved for the highest quality tailoring, making it even more expensive.
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>>23903139
The early church fathers literally command Christians to study greek philosophy you fucking midwit. Saint Basil the great says that young men cannot possibly understand the scripture without studying Homer and Hesiod. Every Christian saint references literature. The greatest works of western literature was chirstian writing, Dante, Milton etc. Both the Orthodox and Catholic church are the reason much of ancient literature even exists today as monks spent entire lifetimes making copies of written works
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>>23903150
thats still not an argument supporting the idea of first having encapsulated university studies, i see the same bullshit with the idea of first hospital.

people who dont understand core mechanisms of education and civilization, absolute slop
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>>23903102
Jews often preferred to go into banking because that's where the money could be made even when they were allowed into other professions.
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>>23903151
You're so fucking dumb. What did you think they taught at the first universities in Europe? Theology. Canon Law. University of Bologna, Oxford etc. Half if not 2/3ds of students were there to study Christian theology and Christian law. In your very own country, your oldest university, Uppsala was founded and charted by the Pope.

Your claim that the church "avoided intellectuals" is demonstrably false by every metric. Chrstians WERE the intellectuals.
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>>23903119

>Rights are naturally derived.
What rights do I have on a deserted island?

>There is but one law -- natural law.
What laws are there on a deserted island?
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>>23902895
>Why do some people pretend the medieval times didn't suck?
they are mostly trolls. a few others think this is a way to defend the prestige of christianity, which was a totalitarian force back then and therefore societal ills were all its responsibility.
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>>23902977
take your meds little man
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>>23903153
>Chrstcucks WERE the intellectuals.
Lol
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Did they have 24/7 camera surveillance and every single thing they ever bought, cataloged along with a wildfire of ads? No?
Then it was better before even if life expectancy was shorter.
Do you really want to live as a liability to those around you and take their time, money and effort just so you can wake up to another day of a bad back and struggles to do anything yourself? Can't even call it vacation when you're old when you're still taxed until you're 10 feet under and even then vultures want to pick clean your belongings when you're dead
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>>23902979
except it is a /pol/ meme that life expectancy calculations are so simple-minded. in reality there's survival-to-5-years-old probability at birth, survival-to-adulthood-probability-at-birth and life expectancy for those who have reached adulthood.
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>>23902895
>pretend
They were a great time. Jews just want you to think they sucked because they were constantly getting expelled from the realms.
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>>23902982
is this some autistic attempt to claim that powerful institutions aren't "the govermnent"? people burning witches was a civilian pastime and the government just shrugged and said "let them have their fun"?
if it wasn't the government, you'd expect to see cases of the government intervening. but in fact the government was generally subservient to the church and dutifully executed those handed over to it.
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>>23902895
So no faggots or leftist midwits who think they know everything because they cab read? Sounds good to me.
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>>23902895
Medieval times were amazing.
We also owned that jerusalem place for 500 years, without even trying.
White Christcuck rule for 500 years, jews wont even hold it for 80
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>>23903163
It would be objectively better if a European Christian occupation of Jerusalem had lasted until present day and jews and muslims were forced to pay tribute to enter. Not even a Christian but that would have at least been a better timeline than what we're on now.
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>>23902895
>literacy rates
Still 10% but the only difference is that now we pretend 90% can understand what they never read.
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>>23902898
>meaningful work
Dude you raise crops for a rich asshat
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>>23902895
>>23902901

america was built on the premise that everything pre-enlightenment, or old world, wad bad. history has now clearly shown that this was not the case, but americans (and most angloids) cant deal with it so they need a steady stream of cope to convince themselves otherwise.
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>>23902895
>The literacy rate was 10% and only about 50% of people made it to adulthood.
Do you possibly not realize why those two are correlated?

Child mortality is a terrible thing, but very consistent across human history until modern times.
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>>23902895
>The literacy rate was 10% and only about 50% of people made it to adulthood.
if you have no video evidence of this, I refuse to believe it.
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>>23902895
fucking retards who can't be offline for more than 3 minutes fantasizing about the middle ages is hilarious
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>>23902934
Is this bait or retardation
Flagelations were voluntary and came after medieval period
Inquisition in reality barely killed any people for 300 years and didn't affect 99.9% of the population
Witch burnings were barely a thing, mostly a myth
Conscription didn't exist, crusaders voluntered
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>>23903170
they're online because theres literally nothing of importance to be done in jew world.

in the middle ages you would go from meaningful work, to a community festival, to a religious event. the calendar was packed with actual events. not fucking stanley levinson, i mean MLK, day and american ramadan (pride month).
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>>23902898
>have house
probably more of a shack for the common man
>meaningful work
farming, with a quota to meet for thy Lord. better hope the weather is agreeable
>loyal wife
maybe, maybe not, adultery wasn't non-existent during those times
>close community
crabs in a bucket, ready to be favored by the ruling body at the expense of anyone
>government
monarchy, better hope your ruler is just (not likely)
>healthy food
gruel
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>>23903172
So your just a loser not an actual introvert lmao
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>>23902898
>>23902895
Whites were literally slaves to royalty and court jews during medival times.
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>>23903149
>making dyes of any color was easy, even purple, the difference was the quality of the dye. the better shit didn't fade or change colors and because it was more expensive it was generally reserved for the highest quality tailoring, making it even more expensive.
Exactly. I imagine too that during the middle ages they would've been keenly aware of whether the dyes on your clothes were expensive or cheap. But saying that they had no blue whatsoever is just completely retarded and redditbrained.
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>>23902977
Here it is. You have perfectly embodied why people can't stand you squishy cuckolds trying to make everyone believe that for thousands of years life itself was wretched and horrible until this specific era and now everything is great.
>but muh medicine
>but muh internet
>but muh porn and fast food and Netflix
Obviously what people are missing, what they crave, what they see as redemptive in the past, isn't about material comforts and safety. History seems lacking to you because that's all you value. The image of freer, bolder, stronger, more competent, more self-sufficient, more fit, more convicted, more connected people means nothing to you. People want their souls back. There's nothing that makes the marvels of technology and soul-crushing modernity a package deal, but here you are having a fit about people looking back on what we lost as if there's anything worth returning to at all. You're a bugman. You're a traitor to the very human spirit and the best punishment for you is that you get to live in exactly the world you want.
Life expectancy for most of history has been mostly comparable to today, by the way. Infant mortality was higher and severely skewed averages.
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>>23902895
>muh literacy rate

Reading is overrated, especially back then. Plenty of people lead very fulfilling lives, even today.

>muh mortality rate

Count abortions kike.
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>>23903005

>muh food

the same (lack of) thinking that let millions of immigrants in
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>>23902896
The most Republican man to ever live
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>>23902895
christcucks think it was the golden age because people weren't literate enough to start branching off into a bunch of separate sects to cope with finding out how fake and gay their religion was, thus the christcuckery was unified and golemry was not only encouraged but mandatory--not unlike what modern day Christian Nationalists strive for in a country that was founded by Deists on land that was settled by Christfags fleeing persecution from other Christfags
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>>23903054
Six hours later, but I just wanted to state you can get blue dye from flowers. Pic related, a European wildflower that comes in both purple and blue.
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>>23903181
This is why we need to bring back witch burnings... for faggots like this.
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>>23903183
gulags first, for jew-worshipping gay retards like you
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People are woefully uneducated on the middle ages. So many idiots believe things they've seen in Pedowood movies.

You didn't jsut dump chamerpots onto the streets. You had a guy who's job was to collect them as both urine and faces were re-used. Urine for some chemical proceses like dying, and feses for compost.

No, taverns, alehouses and inns were not one and the same. One was just for sleeping, one just for drinking and one just for eating. Only later did they start to mix services.

tons of other stuff that people constanlty get wrong
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>>23903152
they "preferred" to go into banking because thats what the entire social engineering scam of christianity and torah judaism prior to that was designed to cater to

4th century bce jews at elephantine were loaning money to gentiles, get this.. WITHOUT interest
the 3rd century bce and the devising changes all of that. interest was discovered by jews, and their entire society slowly began to shift towards its exploitation and the (((trickle down))) economic system you know them for today

btw in case anyones wondering, jewsus wasnt flipping over the moneychanger tables for their jewishness, he was flipping over the moneychanger tables because they werent being jewish enough.
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>>23902934
like 4000 people were executed by the spanish inquistion across almost 400 years that's only like 10 a year, and that is just if you were in spain specifically, the rest were lower.
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Listening to pagans on /pol/ for over a year, you literally cannot distinguish them from atheists.
The longer you listen and take note, the more you realize that their whole world view is basically "I hate the west, I hate European culture and i white people", like every fucking time like an average reddit or a leftist. That what paganism boils down to.
They claim that Christians are jews or slaves, yet they're the ones who deffend whites the most, while pagans just shit down on Europeans 24/7.
Pagans are completely ready and eager to flush down 1500 years of their history, ancestors and entire nationhoid down the gutter just so they can larp either as pagan Roman, Greek or some tribal northerner, people they have less connection or knowledge of than their nearest kin in just 2 generation.
Wtf makes a pagan different from a self-hating liberal that hates his parents and identity? Literally fucking nothing.
It's very valid to say they're a jew, since you won't find a difference either.
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>>23902895
>50% of people made it to adulthood.
Good, I know it's an unpopular opinion but too many people reach adulthood these days. There's too many people working useless makework jobs or sat on disabilty their whole lives when they really shouldn't be here.
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>>23902955
They didn't get over it hence why their descendants are seething in the thread
Jews always dial it up to 100 because when you see people used to own a house you start to think if progress is so wonderful how come I don't have these things. Who took these things we should have awa... BAD GOY
Also fun fact since the Vietnam war Jewish historians began altering the past to push their agenda in the present like how everything they dislike always relates to the holocaust essentially weaponizing the past
The Crusades was actually Western White people going across the world to harass the innocent non-Whites just like Vietnam or the Iraq wars
The Spanish Inquisition and Salem Witch Trials was rabid, fanatical, conservative sorts happily killing innocent women. So about that rising right-wing sentiment in your area recently...
So basically you know how everything is always the Nazi's over and over. This is the proto-version of that and it stuck because what normalfag is going to actually read about things that happened hundreds of years ago to see they're lies?
Jews dislike going back because that isn't going forward to their agenda of a world without Whites. Jews dislike nostalgia because you realise what you've lost. Jews have been manipulating the past to push then and now examples for ages because he who controls the past controls the future, the holocaust isn't the only card in the jewish deck its just their favourite
Now have fun looking at past "atrocities", realising they weren't actually that bad and noticing the odd tonal shift around the 60s when marxist, jewish academics began to take root and "revise" these events to push their ideology
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>>23902895
>worrying about knowing how to read

Fuck. You.



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