Will the Orthodox and Catholic Churches reunite? Should they?
>>24081303>Will the Orthodox and Catholic Churches reunite?No.>Should they?No.
>>24081303TWU
All Christian denominations should unite under the guidance of the chosen people, as G-d intended.
Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox are different.
The differences are cultural, but the churches are in communion.Protestant "churches" are NOT because they worship modern kikes instead of Christ. Hopefully one day they will recognize that babykilling is gay
>>24081303is that kingcobraJFS? i thought the nigger had die
>>24081308Presbyterians literally have an adl page about them only amerimutt evangelicals are kike worshippers https://www.adl.org/resources/news/presbyterian-churchs-lost-moral-compass-israel
>>24081304they probably should but the tyrant of rome always feels the need to be primary for some reason. other people find this ridiculous.
garbage jew worship cults
>>24081311>tyrant>ridiculous
>>24081313im against mariolatry too
>>24081308Not exactly, Catholic Church recognizes sacraments from the Orthodox but the other way around isn't true. I'm not sure if it's all autocephalous churches though because last I heard Bulgarian and Russians and Greeks were also fighting and excommunicating each others.
>>24081303orthodox wont recognize the primacy of rome, as they have a council of bishops
>>24081303Im sad Catholism wonI like it but can deal with priests not being able to marry and the pope being the maximum authority
why do you keep making this thread you papist spastic, your church already says that orthodox sacraments are 100 percent valid so a reunion is unnecessary. leave us alone please lol.
>>24081318It's still not the true Church though.
>>24081303Orthodoxy doesnt believe jews are chosen people anymore.Cathollics do
>>24081320No they don't.
>>24081319saying that we're wrong then you are basically admitting that the pre schism unified church's traditions that we still hold to are false or heretical, lol do you really want to go down that road? It's clear to everyone who is honest that the Roman church changed and even your own documents admit it.
>>24081303Orthodox are more likely to reunite with their Muslim brothers desu
>>24081322How so?
>>24081323post vat 2 Roman Catholics are even in closer solidarity to Muslims than even the brown coptic ortho larpers which is saying a lot.
>>24081303>>24081304Polaks are so cringe, you have no idea what Catholicism even is, you are like football hooligans rooting for your team, you dumb round faced Asiatic. Catholic vs Orthodoxy is GREEK and ITALIAN politics, they were separated due to geo-political reasons when Greece and Italy were rivals. The only legitimate way to bring back the Roman Empire is to unite the churches. Rome is not Russia, Germany, USA or anywhere else. There is only one path to bring back Rome and the first step is uniting the Greek and Italian church again
>>24081308>Hopefully one day they will recognize that babykilling is gayAbortion is murder. Murder should carry the death penalty.>t. Protestant
>>24081303Would love to see the United States Catholic Church completely step away from the Vatican and adopt a more orthodoxy stance. You just can’t defend Catholicism anymore. All of the copes for adopting pagan rituals from pagan Rome is complete heresy. Return to the Catholic Church prior to the schism and plant your faith independently. I believe American Catholics will flock to it and find anyway to get away from this Roman cult. In my opinion, this is exactly why the Vatican made the current pope an American, to prevent the inevitable escape of American Catholics
>>24081327>Prots are against killing children By definition, you cannot support Judaism in any capacity then. Evangelicals will suck a Jews cock in a heartbeat
>>24081325All the old Orthodox strongholds are Islamic nowadays. They all bent over.
>>24081312Not an argument ignorant /poltard
>>24081326>thinking christcuckery is a uniter of the roman empirefuck me, imagine learning history like this.
>>24081330>They all bent over.Jews have been at War with Orthodoxy ever since the Greek king was the first non-Jew to discover the existence of the talmud around 800AD and started the Jew vs Christian War that is still ongoing
>>24081333i want all your abrahamic jewish shit gone. keep it in the levant, outside of europe.
>>24081334Jesus was born in the Roman Empire and the first Christians were welcomed as saviors when they arrived on the Greek islands, the first Greek convert met Jesus in person and spread the word before the disciples arrived, Christianity is the story of the lost tribes of Israel aka the Europeans, deal with it Abdullah
>>24081334>abrahamic jewishAlso there is no such thing as "Abrahamic" that is a fake trigger word like Judeo-Christian. "Abraham" is not a Christian figure, that is the word for BRAHMIN, an Indian tribe that Jews originate from. Jews moved around like nomadic gypsies for centuries cultivating their demon worshipping book, the Synagogue of Satan
>>24081336dont care. want none of it.
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>>24081331It is, when all you do is protect jews
>>24081337>dont care. want none of it.that's why you live on a cursed island and are doomed, you betrayed God>>24081338There is no mention of "Jews" in the original bible, that is a fake word created 3-4 centuries ago and edited into modern bibles to trick the "goyim", modern day Jews have no connection to the biblical HEBREWS. Judaism alongside Islam was created around 7-8 centuries AFTER Christ, you fucking golem beast
Christianity tier list :>Catholicism>Orthodoxy>Protestantism>Evangelicalism>Non-Trinitarians
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>>24081314>im against mariolatry tooIt's not idolatry heretical retard, it's rightly veneration. Mary, the Blessed Mother, the Theotokos bore our Lord and Savior because the Word (the Logos) of God had to become Man to sanctify our fallen nature and grant for us with his human life and death possible salvation with his divinity. She quite literally had to be literally the purest (not without original fallen nature) and uniquely holy in order to be able to carry God in her womb so that he can be born (as God only dwells where there is purity and holiness), so not only was she the purest and holiest mortal person who ever lived but she bore our benefactor (Christ), so she is above all the angels and elevated to a unique status deserving of our veneration because she is the mother of the Man who is summit of all desire. Her relationship to Christ as a human being is the closest so who better is their for us to ask for intercession and the Lord's mercy then Mary who was his literally earthly mother. Church didn't just venerate her for no reason or because of some pseudo-paganism retard. This, plus there is Marian hymns from the Early Church so not some new invention.
>>24081303thats whats up yootubez
>>24081341>>Non-Trinitariansnot Christians
>>24081343yeah i know all that. please keep i mind that the term Theotokos was invented to defend Christ against heretics, not to create unbiblical doctrines that see people pray to a dead human.>>24081345agreed
>>24081303They'll unite if they can mutually agree on what unity means and looks like, an administrative type unity for the sake of the good image or efficiency risks giving the false impression that it's not the Holy Spirit and the truth of Christ’s teachings hat makes the church one body but administrative peace treaties, agreements or human arrangements in general, it's a sacramental unity and not legalistic or political.
>>24081338Yes because the Jews were originally the ones who kept the faith in the one true genesiac God, where chosen to be the keepers of the covenant and the people who would be a living testament and prepare a way typologically and historically for the faith of the one true God and Christ and also who did not succumb to paganism because they were given the Law of Moses and reaped divine consequences whenever they tried to. No one who really knows anything would deny this but you are misconstruing this truth to say that therefore we even remotely think the Modern Jews are holy or have some importance over us (despite what some retard Prot Evangelicals who are as deceived as Left-Wing Marxist, which is false. Paint this innocent truth in whatever dishonest light you want but the Jews were chosen (*KEYWORD BEING "WERE"), they weren't always wicked, avaricious and perfidious people despite what some historically ignorant anons say, they became only as sickened as they are now because of their (the ones who didn't accept Christ) stubborn rejection of Jesus and therefore the one true God as all whole, spiritually cursing they who remained in the Old Covenant despite being revealed the New. They, who are now Talmudic followers and have become the henchmen and foot soldiers of iniquity. Truth is that if wasn't the jews it would be someone else, it for reasons happen to be that region and happen to be them. Covenant was always going to come to one group of people who would have served as a symbolic stewardship for God's revelation to humanity, could have been anybody but for specific reasons happen to be them. So all these arguments you guys try to use are naught because of the ignorance of their basis. You niggas simply lack any understanding of nuance or discernment. You can't even tell me why ontologically the jews are even bad to begin with.
>>24081334I noticed the as the west is becoming more and more secular it is more and more welcoming of being flooded with brownsbut surely there's no relation
>>24081349this. a bunch of other stuff got worse too.
>>24081346>yeah i know all that. please keep i mind that the term Theotokos was invented to defend Christ against heretics, not to create unbiblical doctrines that see people pray to a dead human.Holy shit you are fucking stupid, are you even Christian? If Mary the mother of our literal and savior who was resurrected from the fucking dead is according to you a "dead human". Then in that case we are all fucking dead because even Christ own mother isn't alive and eternal, therefore in Heaven according to you. What happen to Christ promise to the Good Thief on the Cross about being received into the Eternal Paradise and Kingdom, wait so did he lie then because according to you he is also a dead human we "pray to"? So all of the Apostles and early believers who were promised eternal salvation after death and reception into the Kingdom of Heaven are dead? So Christ lied to all of us and the Scripture is lying apparently because everyone is "dead" according to you? So what's the point of believing them dumbass? Do you even know anything about what your talking about retard, think before you speak. The soul isn't even perishable retard bet you didn't know that, its immaterial so it can't be destroyed because its beyond matter. Read some theology for goodness sake, it's really not that hard.
>>24081303>Orthodox and Catholic
>>24081349>>24081350God promised to not do a hard reset(the flood) again, he is clearly still punishing those who betray him like Judeo-Masonic UK
>>24081349I'm all for a neo-Enlightenment, a return to the culture which existed during the British Empire, and a general elimination of some post-modern values.A lot of the evils in the west are from protestant cults like the Quakers who have constantly tried to undermine society.
As long as we are all subservient to the Jews and Israel's government, it doesn't matter. All Christians are aligned with Israel
>>24081351>Then in that case we are all fucking dead because even Christ own mother isn't alive and eternal, therefore in Heaven according to you.ok, so why aren't you praying for help to other dead humans? thats equally unbiblical.
>>24081303Catholics are the original Protestants.They broke off from the Orthodox Church.If the Catholics can repent of their sin of placing the Pope between believers and Christ, they might be able to.They most likely will not.
>>24081353thankfully He's going to come and scrub everything clean with fire next time.
>>24081306every christkike on earth needs to be killed
>>24081315All the eastern orthodox churches are still in communion with each other but the Greeks and Russian churches have political issues
>>24081341Lutherans?
>>24081360>but the Greeks and Russian churches have political issuesRussians really have balls, those fuckers spent 100 years as militant atheists and killed Christians, then they "re-found" their Orthodox faith 3 decades ago and act like they are the leaders of Orthodoxy. Meanwhile Greeks NEVER lost their faith, ever, fucking russian ingrates
>>24081360they have hygiene issues. nah only kidding. i've met a bunch of cool orthodox monks.
>>24081361LCMS are good if you ask me.
>>24081362A lot of honest and pious Russians continued on during that time but yeah there are certain communist elements that need to be removed from the Russian church
>>24081303No and no
>>24081321Yes they do.
>>24081303Foreign religion amalgamizes with whatever the local culture is and becomes just a facade for it, reuniting fundamentally different cultures isn't easy (and probably not even desired)
>>24081366>No and noWhy not? You have no idea what Catholicism and orthodoxy even is you dumbass, just like Polaks, you cheer it on like sportsball teams with no clue. Listen retards, Catholicism and Orthodoxy were split due to Greek and Italian geo-politics, they were rivals and enemies for millennia and it climaxxed with the Great Schism. Now that they are on friendly terms again it would make sense to unite them again, the only people against this are corrupt leaders of both churches
>>24081369Both sides have genuine theological differences
>>24081369PAPISTSleave those greeks alone
>>24081356Heard of something called a Saint??? Is everyone who ever lived a Saint? Was Ted Bundy a saint, was pol pot a saint? Because they're dead too and according to your logic I would pray to them too and ask for their intercession. Do you even think before you post? Also it is bibical and supported by Scripture I can pull up the verses. Also we don't just ask "dead holy people" to pray for us, we ask even living people to pray for us and for us to pray for them. Prayer doesn't equally mean worship, you're misinformed. Prayer means to offer supplication, to ask, to essentially communicate, and it has levels with the use of verbalizing being the lowest and the heart being the highest. It's the spiritual language, faculty God has given us, its a act of our capacity to have faith, it's relational. It is different from veneration which is what we also do regarding the Saints (some dead people according to you), to venerate is to respect and highly regard, we venerate them because they lived such holy and truly God pleasing lives they stand as ideals and examples of what it truly means to follow Christ. And because in the communal eyes of the Church they are sanctified. So veneration isn't idolatry because we aren't worshipping them as God and prayer isn't intrinsically worship, I can pray for you and not worship, and vice versa. Your just conflating all these terms. Words have actual meaning, in case you aren't aware. Don't mean to be harsh but like seriously.
>>24081313>>24081304Stalin literally returned Christianity and destroyed left movement
>>24081370>have genuine theological differencesNot really man, it's 99% about artificial differences, like Greeks wearing black uniforms and Catholics wearing white, Greeks using icons while Italians don't, it's bullshit. There can be a council that irons all this stuff out
>>24081346I prefer that we use the term Mater Dei.
>>24081373Such a thing as the heresy and apostasy of Sergianism. Look it up. Even the Antichrist is said to allow pratice of the Christian faith for a period as long as it compromises to him.
>>24081326You are making it more complicated than it actually is. Let me explain this for retarded people.Catholic church = infiltrated, financed and controlled by the jewsOrthodox Christianity = not infiltrated, financed and controlled by the jewsIf they merged, both would be infiltrated, financed and controlled by the jews, so no, they should not reunite.Catholics are reading kike insanity called The Old Testament only (Torah)Orthodox are reading The New Testament only (the only real Bible)Now you know. You are welcome.
>>24081372exactly. unbiblical practice.
>>24081374>uniforms>iconsYou're right that is superficial, but you're wrong about this being 99% of the difference. The big important difference that really makes an impact is the different interpretations of Christ. Orthodox churches believe the Son is separate from the Father, the Father is the sole uncaused cause, the Father creates the Son and the Spirit. In Catholic churches, the Father the Son and the Spirit are three who are one and none came before the other as all are the beginning of creation.
>>24081375same same. so long as its used in the proper way as intended either will do.
>>24081307Still realistically a more likely reunion than any false union with Rome.>>24081316Nor should they. First among equals.>>24081323Actual brainlet take>>24081330And we have the brave crusaders to thank for this. >>24081352>Romanian>Icons are idols Go back to church.
>>24081372Lots of pilpul justification, I simply worship and pray to our father God in heaven, simple as.
>>24081381I identify more with ancient Greece and Rome than Levantine 5th column cults.
>>24081383Pagan larper? Kek.
>>24081379Both believe that God is 1 God with 3 persons. Separate but but equal but one. One of the big problems is the filloque which the orthodox believe diminishes the holy spirit thus making God less. Then there is all the Mary stuff that the Roman catholic church is walking back on plus papal supremacy and other things
>>24081378So you didn't read anything I said at all. You you either have complete cognitive dissonance or quite literally incapable of reading therefore illiterate. Some men just can't be reasoned with likely because they lack reason itself. Sad. I'll pray for you :)
>>24081308>the churches are in communion.Did you miss the part where orthodoxy only exists because the Catholics excommunicated them? Or was there a reunion I'm unaware of?>Protestant "churches" are NOT because they worship modern kikesMy boy, you're thinking one particular type of dispensationalist evangelicalism. Anglicans and Lutherans just denied the supremacy of the pope as head of the church (Jesus is). They're still devoted to a single universal, catholic, and apostolic church.It feels like you might have a pop-culture understanding of protestantism unbecoming of a Christian.
>>24081385>>24081379Like I said earlier, a council of elders could iron all this stuff out. Greece and Italy need to re-join together, the land, people and religion, bring back the Roman Empire and a new dawn of hope for mankind
>>24081384They make nice stories, and for good celebrations. It's no coincidence that christcucks co-opted everything.As for actual ideology to following, I think the British Empire had it on lockdown when they 'rediscovered' the value of the ancients during the Romantic movement and applied it to the modern world.
>>24081303>Will the Orthodox and Catholic Churches reunite?The name for these are Uniates btw. >>24081307true.
>>24081386im familiar with all your excuses and waffle. its always the same. Just pray to God like the Bible says.
>>24081372I do love seeing paganism shining through Christianity.
>>24081303Why do you show us the good timeline where cobra survives? Only to make us suffer?
We are in the middle of erecting the Tower of Babel 2.0. Wear your meta glasses so people who don't speak the same language can debate what a woman is. The internet is filtering all of our conversation now. No one is watching the same movie. We are faced with a billions of tiny schisms. Reunification? Schism? We read about such things. We don't experience them anymore.
>>24081389>no coincidence about coopted holidaysNo historical basis for this statement. Jewish lies to make Christianity look unauthentic. Neo paganism is the same Jewish psyop.>British Empire larpWhat religion were they again?
>>24081388Tbh I think the oriental orthodox and the eastern orthodox will reunite long before orthodox reunite with rome
>>24081303Orthodox are too jewish and autistic to ever do that, Catholics would probably be willing tho
>>24081391Scripture is not self interpreting. Quit coping.
>>24081372>>24081378Wrong, faggotsRomans 1:7 (ESV): "To all those in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ." (Sainthood is an invitation to believers).1 Corinthians 1:2 (NIV): "To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be his holy people, together with all those everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ—their Lord and ours."Ephesians 2:19 (NIV): "Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household."Psalm 16:3 (NIV): "I say of the holy people who are in the land, 'They are the noble ones in whom is all my delight.'"Psalm 31:23 (KJV): "O love the Lord, all ye his saints: for the Lord preserveth the faithful, and plentifully rewardeth the proud doer."Revelation 14:12 (KJV): "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."1 Corinthians 6:11 (NIV): "...But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God." >>24081377Orthodox use the Septuagint
>>24081395>What religion were they again?nominally christian but in truth the king had supplanted the church of christ with the so-called anglican church that lets the king do as he pleases. you can still see the effect of this today. the anglican church has a man who cheated on his wife as its leader. lmao
>>24081395The British Empire followed enlightenment ideology, not Christian.If you disagree, name the 5 most important Christian ideological tenets and I'll assess.One of the biggest gripes I have with Levantine cultism, is that they try and claim everything as their own by painting it in their brush. Byzantines used to call themselves Roman, when it was a totally separate power system. The right to self identify is bollocks. Actions speak louder than words.
>>24081382Not even a papist, I'm orthodox (Ancient Apostolic Church that never deviated from the original faith and its tradition). Papacy is actually heretical, corrupted and has invented unbiblical doctrines. Fact that you assume all these holy pratices with Rome only shows how little you are educated about Christianity and the biblical faith.
>>24081397>too JewishBuddy look who reformed the Roman liturgy during Vatican 2.
>>24081398you're obviously free to invent whatever practices you like.>>24081399how does any of that say 'pray to dead people'?
>>24081303>Will the Orthodox and Catholic Churches reunite? Should they?Yes, they will. Yes, they should.But it will only happen eventually.First we have to end judeo-amerimutt supremacy and deal with the Prottietards appropriately.
>>24081303wtf he's back??
>>24081404People are still alive in heaven in a spiritual manner.
>>24081344Cobes has been resurrected, he was the messiah all along, and that's whats up
>>24081373What?Lol what did I just read?
>>24081407yes, i know that. i love how those who pray to the dead always being this up like its some kind of gottcha. just pray to God alone, like the Bible says.
>>24081370KekWhich are those?
>>24081409It's kind of true. Stalin did lift restrictions on the church (as a politically expedient move during war with Germany) and Stalin did destroy the communist party's left wing, the followers of Trotsky, ending more radical anti-family stuff, ending gay stuff, etc
>>24081411See>>24081385
>>24081400Agreed but Anglicanism itself still abides by the "lowercase o" orthodox Christianity. And when the British Empire conquered places, they still baptized people by the Great Commission. Which was my point.>>24081401My point was, what religion did the British bring with them? They brought Christianity to their colonies. Anglicanism sure but still lowercase o orthodox Christianity.And why the gripe? Where's your evidence for Christianity painting everything by their own brush and calling it original? It is original. Our holidays are. There's no evidence to the contrary.
>>24081407only jews go to heaven. the rest who stay try to build rocketships
>>24081410Veneration is different from worship. There's the church militant (people on earth) and the church triumphant (people in heaven, angels god) all are part of the same church
>>24081382What about the Son begotten and the Holy Spirit. You know you wouldn't even about the Father if not for the Son. So you're a Nontrinitarian heretic, basically don't even belief in Christ therefore the truth of the Bible? I also believe in God the God that has been revealed as three persons. Can't have true faith in God without the Church just isn't possible, the two are inseparable.
>>24081416bro you are just going to keep talking in circles, he will keep insisting it is worship and you will keep insisting it is not, who cares? give up already
>>24081404>invent practicesWe didn't invent rock worship or grape juice communion. That was your group. What did the churches do before the canonization of Scripture? How do you even defend its canonization if you don't believe that tradition is holy and effecacious?Scripture teaches that tradition is holy. Most of St. Paul's teachings are also oral traditions rather than written ones.
>>24081379you're not describing the doctrine properly a tallhttps://www.oca.org/orthodoxy/the-orthodox-faith/doctrine-scripture/the-symbol-of-faith/son-of-god
>>24081416>>24081418ive not one time mentioned worship. >>24081419you like to claim scripture is important to you guys and yet you pray to dead people. show me that in there.
>>24081387>Muh Anglicans>Muh LuteransAre you serious?
>>24081420thank you for correcting me on that, I am not orthodox
>>24081413I don't consider them big theological disagreements.And I am unaware of Orthodox being against the Virgin Mary.
>>24081399Thanks anon for supporting everything I said here >>24081372 with bibical quotations :)
Imagine arguing about how your cult's interpretation of a book of Jewish fairy tales is actually the correct one, when your entire premise is to just believe without any evidence already.
>>24081412Stalin was a Socialist and an anti Christian.
>>24081427yes that is also true.
>>24081391And who is God? What person is he as Scripture infers.
>>24081423hey no problem. just wouldnt want to make them out to be like Arians or something. >>24081429Im not sure what you're asking exactly
>>24081421The question becomes twofold for you. Do you believe that men can canonize Scripture despite not having a guide to canonize it by except tradition? And do you believe that even those who have died are alive in Christ?St. Luke 20:37–38: He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for all live to him.As for scriptural witness to the prayers of the saints:Job 33:23If there shall be an angel speaking for him . . . He shall have mercy on him, and shall say: Deliver him, that he may not go down to corruption."Tobit 12:12When thou didst pray with tears… I [Archangel Raphael] offered thy prayer to the Lord. Apocalypse 8:3-4And another angel came, and stood before the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given to him much incense, that he should offer of the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar, which is before the throne of God. And the smoke of the incense of the prayers of the saints ascended up before God from the hand of the angel.
>>24081392Oh I see, you also are severely illiterate too. How sad you have my pity. Man there sure are alot of retarded anons on the board today. Almost as if some special ed school for illiterate retards was sent a link during computer class, how strange.
>>24081431i think that the canon of Scripture was decreed by God and was merely recognized by men led by the Spirit.And yes of course we do not cease to exist after the death of our mortal body. This has nothing to do with if you should be praying to the dead. just pray to God like the Bible says.
>>24081404>you're obviously free to invent whatever practices you like.Said the Devil himself
>>24081433Well of course it was decreed by God. Which is why every council leads with "it was pleasing to us and to the Holy Ghost". Councils are scripturally witnessed as to what should occur when disagreements about the faith arise which is where Holy Scripture comes from.If we don't cease to exist and are alive in Christ, our prayers are not to the dead but to the living. And these living intercede to Christ on our behalf. The prayer of the righteous avails much. Who on earth is righteous? Would it not make more sense to pray to those perfected in faith and alive in Christ?What would you tell to a Christian pre 4th century canonization of Scripture? The only prayer they know is what has been taught via Holy Tradition. St. Paul left the Thessalonians two small letters. Is only what he wrote valid then despite him living and teaching them the faith daily?And in your own church: do you only follow traditions in service by what's in Holy Scripture? Grape juice communion certainly isn't there. Neither is rock band worship.
>>24081430>Im not sure what you're asking exactly>Doesn't know who God is. Can't even tell me what or who God is personally. >Can't bother to even Chatgpt the shit for his own sakeSo can you Dunn & Krueger tards just stop pretending you know remotely what you're talking about because when you do you end up sprouting illogical and theologically incoherent shit. Quite literally digging your own graves spiritually.
>>24081424Terms like co redemptionix and things like her being born of a virgin are roman catholic only
>>24081436>Dunn & Krueger Lmfao, do they specialize in biblical bird law, Pseud?
>>24081304I hope they do desu there's definitely been an effort to even recognition of previous councils :3! Though "true" integration would bee difficult if not very far into the future all is possible with God's help <3
>>24081435Bless you anon. You have greater patience then me.
>>24081377>Catholics are reading kike insanity called The Old Testament only (Torah)Only subhuman serb hands could type something so retarded.
>>24081303No and no.
>>24081435<(^•^)>
>>24081433Listen brother. I truly appreciate your intents here. Your dedication to Holy Scripture is fantastic. I envy it.Would you be willing to attend a liturgy? You don't have to do anything you're uncomfortable with. Just go and attend a service. See what there is to see. Maybe ask to talk to the priest afterwards.At worst, you'll leave with a new experience, some new information about our faith and probably a full stomach from coffee hour after church.
>>24081303no, yes
>>24081438>do they specialize in biblical bird lawBelieve it or not, but there is actually a field and mode of study related to Scripture. Such a thing as theology and bibical hermeneutics. Like people actually thought about the Scripture ans how to understand and interpret it before you were born and existed, really crazy right, sobI know that concept is a bit hard to understand given your mental incompetence but just try to follow what I'm saying despite your neurological impediment.
>>24081327the stats on Catholics are always fucked up because the majority of “Catholics” are completely non-practicing and non-believing, but cling to the label as an ethno-cultural tie. of course the church does also count them as Catholic, but in bad standing
>>24081417We are all sons of our father God. Jesus said so himself, "through me", this me is the divine in all of us, jews call this ruach adonai. Jesus was saying to believe in yourself as Gods son.
>>24081422>Are you serious?Yes.
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>>24081303>>24081446Papists will Bgome, Amen!it is Canon Law:100% of disagreements between real Christians (id est Orthodox and Papists) are already settled by Ecumenical Canon Law, cf:>Canons IV & VI of the 1st Ecumenical Council>Canons II & III of the 2nd Ecumenical Council>Canons VI & VII & VIII of the 3rd Ecumenical Council>Canons I & V & IX & X & XII & XIX & XXV & XXVIII of the 4th Ecumenical Council>Canons I & II & VI & VIII & XIII & XIX & XX & XXI & XXV & XXXII & XXXVI & LV & LXXXII & XC of the Quinisext Ecumenical Council>Canons I & III & X & XI of the 7th Ecumenical CouncilCATHOLIC CHURCH YESCATHOLIC BISHOPS NO
>>24081435>our prayers are not to the dead but to the living.While this is profound and true, it doesn't really change that you should only pray to God and to Him as Jesus Christ is our only mediator and advocate.
>>24081434indeed, but im not the one praying to dead people anon>>24081435>our prayers are not to the dead but to the livingthey should be to God alone, but i know that your traditions are important to you. its a funny word game you play when you get onto this subject btw.>What would you tell to a Christian pre 4th century canonization of Scripture?he'd already have the God breathed scripture that was available in that place and time. there were a couple canon lists around long before a council recognized it.>>24081436i was just trying to understand where the asker was coming from anon. relax.>>24081444ive been to a bunch of Orthodox and Roman services in different countries over the years. stayed at Roman and Orthodox monasteries etc. not saying ive seen it all by any measure but perhaps more than average.
>>24081448>We are all sons of our father God.Nope. We can BECOME sons of God through faith in Christ though which is a ridiculously graceful offer when you think about it
>>24081436>Dunn & KreugerIt's Dunning-Kreuger. The irony of the correction being necessary is really amusing.
>>24081455i thought it was Cunning Drooger
>>24081454>NopeYup, its in the bible. Thats the "good news" Jesus brought with him, we are all sons of our father God in heaven. I love the divine within me, praise God for my connection to him through the holy ghost.
>>24081452prottie simp detectedthis thread is for Virgin-venerators only
>>24081457To all who did receive him, to those who believe in his name, he gave the right to become children of God
>>24081458My brother in Christ, does the spirit tell you that you will be commended for acting like this?
>>24081457>I love the divine within me, praise God for my connection to him through the holy ghostI feel the holy spirit in me but I feel damaged, I have seen so much evil in the world, partly my fault, watching all the War crime webms posted here. Ever see Fifth Element? I feel like the 5th element when she was watching a history of the world on the computer toward the end of the movie
>>24081460>does the spirit tell you that you will be commended for acting like this?the Spirit has told me how much (You) hate the purity of our God's all-holy and ever-Virgin Motherbecause you simp for roasties after years of cooming
>>24081450lol im gonna save this
>>24081304fpbp
>>24081462Any special revelation you think you've received about me comes from the enemy, anon. You should really evaluate the repulsive nature of what you're saying and ask if you're really led by the Holy Spirit. I don't think you are.If anything, you're showing the error of worshiping the virgin if this is what it leads to.
>>24081303No, fuck you, you're faggots.Too many differences between us.We require our priests to have a wife, we dont preach "turn the other cheek".https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgirPJt_-bo
>>24081461If your souls seeks it ouy and collects these images then that means you can deal with and resolve them in your head. You help the feedback loop by processing these images then thinking/praying on them with the correct emotion of they are bad or awful, so when another soul views them they can grab onto your ideas/thoughts about it and how it is wrong or bad. If you cant handle it then take a break, rest your own soul and consume good, positive sensory.
>>24081465Not argument.
>>24081308no, you dont exist to us, 1054. Fuck you, we needed help against the turks you said "no". Deus Vult, you will perish like the faggots you are.
>>24081468Yes, it is.
>>24081321little faggot catholic protestant, cant comprehend there's a christian denomination that doesn't recognize jews.
>>24081465>the error of worshiping the virginseethat heresy right there is born out of your hatred of puritymaking (You) an enemy of the faith of all Europe's forefathersjust like the Spirit told me
>>24081466Picrel is your brain on protestantism
>>24081467thanks bro, I feel the holy spirit in me swirling around, damaged but still there, it needs time to heal, but the new Jew War against the innocent has given it a hit again, it sucks being so powerless against ultimate evil, you know?
>>24081473"why nobody goes to church anymore"
have christians ever united, or only divided?
>>24081473>>24081475with greater freedom comes the risk of wandering off into error. the good thing about that freedom is its not possible for a central authority to enforce those errors.
>>24081477what are you saying faggot, cathocucks swear their allegiance to some faggot foreign pope.
>>24081303Both are soon dead anyway. So uniting is fine, it doesn't matter in the long term.
>>24081479Orthodoxy is on the rise in the US and I think Roman Catholicism is too
>>24081455He didn't even get the law firm joke, it's pretty embarrassing. He just launched into more autistic Christian minutiae that no one actually cares about.>>24081463Yeah, you should probably keep a reference around for the next time you want to pretend to be an intellectual.
>>24081474Hah you are not powerless if you love our father, that is your ego talking. This place in time seems bad relative to maybe 20 years ago, but why choose a selfish time frame? Would you feel better in the dark ages with the crown in charge? No running water? Or perhaps 50 years into the future? You are here right now and by keeping our father God in your heart and the most important thing, perform good works, ye will know him by his good works. So yea evil exist, do not get angry, mad or sad at evil, it is a part of the world we live in, so turn it around, flip it, deny it or if forced to destroy it. Forgive them father for they know not what they do.
>>24081472Neither orthodox, nor Catholics view denial of Mary-worship as heretical so you are deceived, brother. Might want to figure out why that is.
>>24081304This
>>24081326No mutts arw cringe with their flavor of the month evangelical ortodox larp.>>24081441Serbs trully are mentally ill. Its like they exibit traits of jews and jeets. Protect izzat at all costs and stack lie upon lie to "win".
>>24081480I can certainly hope desu alongside that great news there's a rise in church activity in younger peeps especially young men. '-' which used to bee the lifeblood of the churches
>>24081307Each ortodox church is different. Its an etnoreligion with a dose of imperialism. Aka russian and greek churches in USA.
>>24081483>Neither orthodox, nor Catholics view denial of Mary-worship as hereticalthat is literally called Nestorianism and it is literally Anathema, heretic
>>24081303yes, all Christians need to unite (fuck the American evangelicans) get out all jews and mudslimes - rebuild a Christian nation.
>>24081303No, no. Pope never had the right to primacy over other patriarchs so some bullshit was invented. It could have been fixed centuries ago, multiple times in fact. Fourth Crusade irreparably damaged all efforts at unity, and the final chance for unification passed in 1453 after the Easter Roman Emperor submitted the church in hopes of getting help and got 200 archers in return for his submission. As of today, Pope will never give up his primacy, no matter for illegitimate and neither Constantinople nor Moscow patriarchs would submit to him. This would be the biggest theological sticking point that can't be resolved. Rest could be ironed out or ignored as minor disagreement.Now would Orthodox and Catholic worlds even be for unification? I can concretely tell you that the Orthodox wouldn't, or at least the biggest and most important ones wouldn't.
>>24081476They're all pretty big on letting violent brown people endlessly flood white nations
>>24081303Orthodox churches are too hostile for it to happen.
>>24081488Nope, nestorianism is denying the theotokos. You can affirm theotokos and reserve worship only for God. Not mutually exclusive.
>>24081481No no anon, let me fix that for ya, I think you meant >>24081430. He's the pseud and Dunn and Krueger fag you're referring to. No need to thank me.
>>24081493In fact, this is the position held by the orthodox and catholic churches.
>>24081491No no those people are called the Jews anon.
>>24081495>this is the position held by the orthodox and catholic churches.(((You))) are much more of a shapeshifter kike than i expectednonetheless, wrong again, and it was reaffirmed again in Constantinople even after Ephesus
>>24081488You should be aware that hyperdulianism like you're involved in right now borders on idolatry and you can see that in the fruits of your spirit in this thread. You're in here calling fellow Christians heretics, putting your own soul at risk because your worship is misguided and you're reaping the fruits of it. Repent. Worship only God.
>>24081326The Orthodox Church is autocephalous. Russians comprise the majority of Orthodox Christians. Uniting Greek Orthodox with Roman Catholicism doesn't do anything for actual Catholic Orthodox unity.
>>24081455>Erm ackshuallyNow it was nice of you to visit but it's really about time you go back reddit.
>>24081498>hyperdulianismnot even a real wordLuke 1:48 says all generations will bless the All-Holy Ever-Virgin Mother of God (Theotokos in Greek)
>>24081341Catholicism above Orthodoxy?Rome is the ORIGINAL schismatic. You complain about protesting, but you're church is literally the one that started it
>>24081498you only have to read through a few pages of something like The Glories of Mary to see how it is. Every time i refer to this, one of the most reprinted roman books of all time, romanist anons have never even heard of it. i find they never seem to know what they are actually defending.
>>24081501i do call her blessed amongst women. what else can you say about the one chosen to be closest to Christ for His time on earth. what an unimaginable gift.but i dont pray to her.
>>24081348Not Jews, retard, HEBREWS.THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE.Jesus Never referred to the HEBREWS as being a religion serving Satan as he did of the Pharisees, and modern Judaism IS Phariseeism.
>>24081501>hyperdulianism>relating to philosophies or theories surrounding the concept of hyperdulia, a state of special or extreme veneration often applied to the Virgin Mary.Words have meanings, crazy. I'll leave you with this. No, a person is not wrong to generate the virgin mother. You, however, should ask yourself if your devotion is to God or to His mother here on earth. Because if you're turning against His servants for not worshipping her, you've got the order of things wrong. I trust the Lord will iron out this matter in the end. Have a blessed day.
>>24081355You're an idiot if you believe all Christians kowtow to the identity thieving Khazarians who larp as a tribe that was utterly wiped out in 73AD
>>24081501I think you might wasting your time brother. This tard >>24081498 is hard of hearing and thinks his fake concernfagging makes you wrong and him right as if it's an valid argument. Some people will create all the excuses they have to in order to remain in their own prideful error. Not all men can be reasoned.
>>24081508Shut the fuck up, Dunn & Kruger fag. You're just butthurt that the entire thread pounced on you for being a retard.
>>24081303All the abrahamic religions need to synthesize. All of Judaism, Christianity and Islam need to unify into one mega religion.
>>24081503>The Glories of Marythat's just fanficthe Little Compline to the Mother of God is much better:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvH2vs-kwhw
>>24081506>Words have meanings, crazyImitation is truly the greatest form of flattery. But if you're gonna quote me atleast add a citation, they didn't teach you that in school? Can a nigga get some credit. >>24081372
>>24081362The RUSSIANS weren't militant atheists, you tard. The Soviet Union was nothing less than a Khazarian Talmudist hijacking of the Russian government (to get revenge for Russia sacking the Khazarian capitol, Atil, 950 years earlier in 961 AD, in a war that the Khazarians themselves foolishly started).The Soviet Union government was by, of, and for Talmudists The tens of millions of citizens murdered by the secret police were all Christian. The Cheka, and NKVD who did the bulk of the executions without even an arrest warrant, let alone a trial, were "Jews" (Khazarians).
>>24081372Show us in the Lord's Prayer where Jesus instructed us to pray to his mother.
>>529862434>You're just butthurt that the entire thread pounced on you for being a retardPedophiles pounce on kids but that doesn't make them right. Such a thing as a argumentum ad populum fallacy pal. The truth has always been a unpopular position my friend especially in this Post-Truth Society, perhaps you do well to remember that.
>>24081305>>24081309>>24081344>>24081406>>24081408TMDWU he is the resurrection and the life.I'm glad its not just me who thought it was cobes
>>24081506>hyperdulianismstill not a real wordhilarious how (((You))) automatically take the Nestorian position the instant u lrn2nestorianismsry nestoriusChurch Tradition is Holy picrel
>>24081514Where in the Gospel did Jesus say you can't be a furry, where also did he say you can't have a diaper fetish? Oh he didn't well guess that's permissible. Well following your logic Polycarp of Smyrna, Ignatius of Antioch and Clement of Rome are not recorded in the Gospel so guess they really never existed and are unbiblical. The Neronian Persecution is recorded either so guess that never happened either because while it's part of Church History it's not recorded in the Gospels.
