Why did you betray your white god Odin ?
R vs K selection. A brown R selective cult invaded from the Middle East.
cant betray him if youve never seen him
>>24229208Be a friendto your friend,and repay each gift with a gift.Repay laughterwith laughter,repay treachery with treachery.
>>24229208I pray to Wotan. We are a Wotan household.
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>>24229209Nordic nobility voluntarily accepted Christianity and converted the peasants.
>>24229208>your white godChristianity has been an european religion for more than 2000 years. Modern paganism is retarded, if anything an euro man should defend his christian ancestors to death instead of trying to revive a shitty caveman pagan cult that didn't have any meaningful impact
>>24229210>odin has never visited himkwab
>>24229214they were promised power and money if they followed the whims of a middle eastern death cult. incredible how that tactic holds up after a thousand years
>>24229215>should defend his christian ancestorsof course its coming from some chile gypsy
crossniggers worship a jewhahahahathey worship a jewish rabbilolol lmao
>>24229208why did odin betray everyone by joining the kike on a stick to larp as a god and rape small children ?
>>24229217It's a life cult.
>>24229215>we've been culturally raped by kikes for 2000 years, it makes no sense to stop now
>>24229217it is middle eastern and very jewishit's not as death cult as most pagan religions it replaced
>>24229208because his religion included regular human sacrifice his followers thought it was ok to sell White slaves to dirty saracens
In my heart he’s an honorary Aryan
Odin is literally the wandering Jew. A dirty, Jewish magician repeatedly expelled from everywhere and forced to wander, using guile to make a living. Just like Moses, just like Merlin, just like Hermes, and Thoth, and every other archetypal version of the same Semitic filth.Thor is the God of whites.
>>24229208if christianity was fine for the roman aristocracy, then it's also fine for me.you don't have to be a protestant or liberal catholic, you know that right?i talk about genociding musshits and jews at my church, no problem.why do i need to larp as a neopagan?
>>24229216fuck you bully, ive met all the cool gods
>>24229208>>24229213>>24229214>>533403275>>24229218>>24229219You will never be Black
>>24229227>i talk about genociding musshits and jews at my church, no problem.No you don't.
>>24229227
>>24229208Pagan gods weren't seen like the real one, they were viewed more like capricious kings who had to be appeased with flattery and gifts or they would use their power against you instead of to your benefit. Pagans didn't love the gods, they were just a fact of life, like death and taxes. Odin didn't destroy them for not worshiping him, therefore he is not worth worshiping.Meanwhile abandoning Christianity in Scandinavia was immediately and obviously followed by the absolute state of them now.
>>24229211>repay treachery with treachery.sounds jewish
>>24229230go to any traditionalist mass, 99% there dislike jews and immigrants and like half of them deny the holocaust (i don't care about it).
Imagine being nigger or jew and slave to abrahamic religions.
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>>24229208Go back to ShitTok gen alphoid faggot
>>24229234.
>>24229210>cant betray him if youve never seen himYou've also never seen Jesus. To be fair, all religions are probably fake and retarded, but if you have to believe in anything at all it makes the most sense to be loyal to the faith of your own ancestors rather than an alien religion.
>>24229236>>24229238idiot, they are psychopathic evangelicals.open up a history book to see if any christian in the middle ages had a positive opinion about jews.
>>24229234>go to any traditionalist mass, 99% there dislike jews and immigrantsYou've never been to any mass in your life.I don't understand what you get out of lying about this stuff.
>>24229240All aboard the cope train
>>24229208but that’s thor anyway nordic larpers existing after eleven years of this is pretty funny t b h
>>24229241i was just 1 week ago, here a pic of saint bernard, crusader saint.>>24229242dog protestant, who allowed you to read the bible by your own and interpret it by yourself?did this ever happen before protestantism? no? then shut the fuck up, kike.
>1945+81>not being an esoteric hitlerist
>>24229227>christianity was fine for the roman aristocracyLol
>>24229244>who allowed you to read the bible by your own and interpret it by yourself?Why does that passage need an interpreter? It’s as blatant as it could be. Oh thats right because you need thousands of mental gymnastics to keep your faith in the dead jew alive.
>>24229220Kek hard to answer
>>24229244Es ist sehr schön, einen katholischen Deutschen zu sehen
>>24229208Because Ukko rules over them all, rivers, mountains and the plains
>>24229222It makes sense to stop, altrough not with being a poser and larp by following sects of unknown origins (Jews) plus impotent rage and passive-agressive stance, try to fix your own problems first... after that the world
>>24229246Marrano burro
>>24229208Ask your ancestors...
Why would I join a Jewish religion? Norse pantheon is just Kabbalah repackaged for white people.
>>24229252BundalundaLol Worshipping a Jew wont make you white.
>>24229254>Norse pantheon is just Kabbalah repackaged for white people.This might be the biggest christcuck cope ive ever seen
>>24229208>Why do you guys act like you'd suck cock as long as it's white?
>>24229239fake quote btw
>>24229227>christianity was fine for the roman aristocracyyeah as cheap low quality fodder for lions
>>24229258i should add for your benefit, that apollo was the god of sparta
>>24229260>apollo was the god of spartaApollo KarneiosPatron god of the Dorians.
>>24229256The two wolves are Joachim and Boaz. Odin missing an eye is a Masonic symbol for enlightenment. The whole cum drinking thing was a fusion of man and woman. Runes are the 3D planar corners of a cube. Odin is Saturn.
>>24229262>Odin is Saturn.Not really.There is no Saturnian deity in the Germanic pantheon.The Germanic week doesnt even include a day for Saturn.Saturday was just known as day before Sunday in Proto-Germanic.Odin is Mercury/Hermes.Hence his epithet Irmin.Hence the psychopompy, the forbidden knowledge and the warrior fraternity cults.Nothing to do with Saturn.Allah is Saturn.Yahweh is Saturn.Not Odin.
>>24229262Kike detected
>>24229208Shalom!
>>24229262Odin is Mercury dumb fuck. It amazes me how stupid chrictcucks are.
>>24229247because scripture is ONLY read with spiritual authority and NEVER by your own.tradition precedes the bible, as the bible is a product of the church and its tradition.if you are outside of it, you can't have the right exegesis.protestants just make up shit out of their asses and have dozens of fake bibles with missing books and subversive, zionist translations.>you need thousands of mental gymnastics to keep your faith in the dead jew alive.this is how christianity was practiced till protestantism. how is it mental gymnastics?you as a lower, plebian person have no right to even think about theological questions.>>24229259doesn't matter, christiantiy got romanized, aristocratic values were incorporated into christianity.it's so braindead to ignore the value of real, historical christianity.
>>24229208Who said we did? Wednesday in Swedish is Onsdag which is just a shortened version of Odens day.Måndag = Månes dagTisdag = Tyrs dagOnsdag = Odens DagTorsdag = Tors dagFredag = Frejas or Friggs dagSöndag = Sunnes dagI don't think Saturday (Lördag) is named after a God, but the word lögur which basically just means to wash your body.
>>24229264Christians will worship Jewish journalism.Their worldview is Jewish journalism.
>>24229254>>24229262christniggers are truly brain damaged
>>24229267>because scripture is ONLY read with spiritual authority and NEVER by your own.Man what a fucking NPC you are lol
>>24229268>I don't think Saturday (Lördag) is named after a God, but the word lögur which basically just means to wash your body.There is no theonymic name for Saturday in Proto-Germanic or most Germanic languages.As astrologically speaking Germanic people were never cultists to Saturn.
>>24229262Yahweh is Saturn.The more accurate understanding is that the Jewish priesthood supplanted the real religions of Europe with a useless dummy religion for slaves.
>>24229221Lolwhut
>>24229211
>>24229244
>>24229215>Chilean math education system
>>24229273>Yahweh is SaturnHence the Abrahamic fixation with the number 6.6 million in Holocaust6 pointed star6 thousand years of creationAdam being invented 6000 years agoJesus dying at 33Its that fixation with the number 6 that betrays the Judaic mind.
>>24229267lipstick on a pig, its intimate nature was hidden and certain good instincts were allowed to continue and manifest, especially as it served the interests of the church to expand its war against all healthy European men and slowly turn them into wormsnow that there's no reins anymore we have seen it come back under protestantism in all its original nausea inducing nature, with a vengeance against Europeans, too rich, beautiful to be allowed to exist at the expense of the sick brown and vile
>>24229240They loved their enemy
>>24229278
>>24229208Christ is White.
>>24229267
we should bring back hangings of prisoners as a sacrifice to Odin
>>24229262>Cum drinking Good morning rabbi
>>24229254
>>24229210Odin never visited a jew mutt. Color me surprised.
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>>24229208I didn't but i believe the God's did play tricks on me. As in they lent me some of their power and then took it away to watch me suffer when i displeased them.
>>24229229i don't want to be black, or jewish, you crossnigger transjew. eat shit, then go fuck your jewish "god"
>>24229208I didn't.
>>24229208How can a God be white? Gods are fundamentally above humans and their races. It's like saying a God can be a golden retriever.
>>24229271This whole "me, my Bible, means that uga booga" mindset is just individualism dressed up as faith. It removes the natural hierarchy where spiritual knowledge should guide everything else. Once you let the lower (personal interpretation) rule over the higher (authoritative tradition), everything starts collapsing. First you break from the Church, then doctrine becomes negotiable, then it’s just "my truth" with a Jesus filter.>>24229279the Church had no control over the Roman rulers and aristocracy.they were fine with it, no one saw it as a degeneration or whatever.this is just nietzschean nonsense, Protestantism is just Germanic hyperindividualism + subversive, literate, pro-jewish interpretation of the bible.it combines the most degenerate aspects of both archetypes.
>>24229292Not a god in the Abrahamic judaic sense.God in Abrahamic religions is an abstract subjective nothingness worshipped exclusively through calligraphy.Non-Judaic religions give objective and eumorphic traits to their Theistic developments.
>>24229293>Once you let the lower (personal interpretation) rule over the higher (authoritative tradition)Spoken like a true slave-goy.
>>24229208Ty si retardovaný? Tvoj boh je Perun, prečo tu propagujes germaniggera?
>>24229294People in ancient times, pre-abrahamic, understood the Gods to be universal, though. It's why you could say Celts and Germans worshiped Mercury primarily, and at the same time you could identify Thoth with Mercury.
>>24229293Do me a favor and fuck off to the desert, jew worshipper
>>24229262There is no Saturn in Norse Mythology. Theres no religious equivalent because they never became grain eaters, and they didnt even name the planet anything. Also, the gay jew that said Odin drank cum wrote in the same work that Jesus and his disciples were a gay polycule and Jesus sucked them all off before he died. Both claims are ridiculous, from a ridiculous gay jew.
>>24229295that's just typical guenon/perennialist wording you fucking retard>>24229298your descendants are heretics and freemasonic cocksuckers, fleeing europe like the wandering jew you are.good luck with the negros in USA.
>>24229208Found out they let poojeets in Valhalla.
>>24229297>People in ancient times, pre-abrahamic, understood the Gods to be universalNot really.Not before the Iron Age.I will give you one example.The Hebrews, when cast out of Judea, by the Babylonians, and having their temple destroyed.Became even more abstract since their local site of worship was gone.And a Yahweh worship place outside Jerusalem was unthinkable.The Assyrians ushered in universality in religion.By using their patron god Ashur as their cultural weapon.They would strip the temples of their enemies and put Ashur in place.Involuntarily they created the concept of universal non-ethnic deities.
>>24229300Fo you get bible interpretations from this guy?
>>24229287When Trump won 2024 the pagan God's were very angry. Remember all that "Christ is king" spam all over this board? People knew what they are doing by supporting Trump.
>>24229300>guenonA christcuck slobbering a freemasonic muslim buffoon.My head is mine alone.No monkey thinks for me.Nice you post Evola.A very well know christian lol
>>24229208I betrayed Quetzalcoatl
>>24229258>fake quote btw1) can you prove its fake?2) even if it is, its still a good and accurate quote
>>24229263>Yahweh is Saturn.>>24229273>Yahweh is Saturn.No. The "Old Testament" was stitched together from texts that originally referred to multiple deities. El and Yahweh are the two primary deities. El is Saturn, not Yahweh. This equation existed in the ancient world and is supported by numerous present day scholars. Originally, Yahweh was the son of Saturn/Cronus. So he would have been equivalent to Zeus or Poseidon. Probably Poseidon, given Yahweh's affinity with earthquakes, water, homosexuality, etc.
>>24229293If your position hinges on that no one should have ever actually read the Bible then it was destined for failure from the beginning.>but look at these fags in dresses carrying crosses!! freakin BASED!!!Absolute clownery. The white man reads and understands his religion.
>>24229208This board are just communist Chinks, Indians, and other BRICS trying to turn right wing whites against the US To cause as much internal division as possible so China can take over the world and install its faggot version of communismHow gayJust like the chinese
>>24229293>This whole "me, my Bible, means that uga booga" mindset is just individualism dressed up as faith. It removes the natural hierarchy where spiritual knowledge should guide everything else. Once you let the lower (personal interpretation) rule over the higher (authoritative tradition), everything starts collapsing.That's what happened when Trump won 2024. People decided to just focus on themselves instead of a greater good or goal. The idea is nothing matters on this natural plane of earth and everything is just a personal experience to the individual. The collective consciousness was thrown aside for personal profit and pleasure. You know what people all talk about? Markets. Everything is about money without any real context why everything is about money. Money is just time and people are chasing time in order to fill the empty voids in their lives. That is to say the west is dying as birth rates drop and nobody seems to care.
>>24229310Cope
>>24229208This is the religion that has a male god turn into a female horse to get impregnated by a stallion right?that "based and trad" religion?
>>24229313He was forced to do so as a punishment. It’s a funny story you should read it.
>>24229208If your god needs form, then he is a lesser God.Why worship a lesser god when you can worship the Absolute, Source of all that exists?
>>24229314>forced to commit gender-switched beastiality/get impregnated as a punishmentHow based and trad!
>>24229273>Yahweh is Saturn.>>24229278>Hence the Abrahamic fixation with the number 6.Saturn is the 6th planet. The mark of the beast is 666. Saturn (in Greco-Roman mythology) was castrated, which seems to be an act the jews partially imitate with their circumcision rituals.
>>24229208I SAW THINGS THAT NIGHT HE DID HIS SPEECH
>>24229312You spend your whole life slaving for jews unironically? That's what Americans believe these days. You are literally sacrificing yourself for a foreign tribe because they tricked you by coercion, bribes or otherwise to serve them.Israel is the only nation in the world to really see positive birth rates.
>>24229303picrel achieved more than you desu. sad, no? and he's not even white.>>24229305he described it as a degenerated form of tradition and was never a mason.evola was a catholic-pagan kek.>>24229309why do you think you have the spiritual capacities to understand it the right way by your own? exegesis is not about intellect and the bible is only a part of the religion. it's not as important as you think.
>>24229208Odin acked himself by hanging from Yggdrasil. Tranny style
>>24229316Yea as a punishment… You worship a jrw who got mollywhopped by the romans and then died on a stick.
>>24229317>Saturn (in Greco-Roman mythology) was castrated, which seems to be an act the jews partially imitate with their circumcision rituals.Also with the god Set in Egypt.Who famously castrated Osiris.And who, according to the Egyptians, was the patron god of the Semites.
>>24229208I didn't I celebrate international Odin day every 9th of the month at 9pm .
>>24229214>voluntarily accepted Christianitylmao
>>24229320>evola was a catholic-pagan kek.Lol>he was never a masonLol. He just had a lot of kidney pains.
>>24229208This! We need a god that sucks cock and eats ass and gets fucked in the ass with cocks and eats cum!
>>24229327>We need a god that sucks cock and eats ass and gets fucked in the ass with cocks and eats cum!then christianity is your ticket, friend
>>24229208Pagan religions made men too unruly and self important. Christianity is a religion that says very little about the ruling class, but targets the peasants, slaves, the underclass. It convinces them to be good and content in their low status.It was created and adopted by the ruling elite for this reason. And how would European history look without it? Hard to tell, but it was probably for the best.Could have been worse though. Islam told those retards to marry their cousins, now they are inbred retards.
>>24229327Kike found>>24229264
God of poetry, what a fag
>>24229273>useless dummy religion for slaves.They actually created two dummy religions for slaves. For some reason or other they are dissatisfied with the first Goyim slave religion they created, so they later made a 2nd one, and now they are trying to supplant the former with the latter.
>>24229328Odin literally eats cum in the mythology.
>>24229208>Odin still with two eyes.
>ITT: NSBM retardsEmbarrassing
>>24229333In what story?
>>24229333and jesus was literally a faggot who took it in the ass in christian mythology. whats your point?
>>24229215>Christianity has been an european religion for more than 2000 years.It was almost entirely jewish for the first 100 years lol.
>>242293021) This is an example of semtic religions, which were much more concerned with the idea of holding one God, the one that had a cult center in their own city, above all others. The cult center was essential to the proper maintanance of the practice, but that does not mean the God is not universal or just constrained to the walls of a temple. Things like taking care of ensouled statues were essential, and without a temple complex this becomes difficult.2) This idea however does not contradict the universality of the Gods, just the human interpretation and cults. They still understood other Gods to exist and to be universal, though obviously there were still Gods associated with particular locales. 3) Nontheless when it comes to our sources regarding Indo-European religion, and European religion specifically, we do not find such things. You have of course Gods that are thought as being patrons of one specific city, or even Gods being elevated in the hierarchy of cultic practice and myth. Such as the example of Mercury being elevated to a kingly rank among the Germans, IE Odin. But that, again, does not contradict the obvious universality of the Gods.
>>24229322Because Jesus wasn't a real God, he was a God in man's flesh. So he could be killed and was killed. So man killed God and must suffer for that fate. The idea behind Jesus is you are God in the mortal flesh. So what happened to Jesus can happen to you.
>>24229215>Modern paganism is retardedAll religions are retarded.
>>24229300
>>24229296Synkretika indoeuropskych bohov je zaklad pohantsva
>>24229337Nope but odin did suck cock. Then again ofin is just a gay fanfic while jesus was a living god on earth.
>>24229310>This board are justOkay, so stop wasting your time and ours posting your faggy glownigger propaganda which you know will have no effect on us. Instead you should do your job and release the Epstein Files.
>>24229344Nope but jesus did have a gay lover. Then again jefus is just a gay jewish fanfic while Odin is the supreme god of the Aryan race.
>>24229344>Nopeyup, rabbi yeshua the sandmonkey acked by romans drank major semen, sorry to break the news to you
>>24229208Odin is Saturn.
>>24229316Your god is circumcised
>>24229341Yes but as in all things there are degrees and when it comes to pagin larping things get incredibly retarded.
>>24229321He's a God so he can't die.
>>24229349So is yours ahmed.
>>24229320You became jew-larping turbovirgin
>>24229348Insanely wrong
>>24229333In your rabbinical mythology from the 1990, moshe
>>24229346Odin is a laughable fag god for the most clownish of cuck races in europe. Why do pagan larpers always associate themselves with vikings cringe and never any other far more successful and accomplished pagan cults of old?
>>24229338
>>24229352Your education system failed you, Tyrone
>>24229348>>24229354It's not only wrong, I also find amusing the idea that being Saturn is bad. Like yes, we recognise that the Jews do indeed hold Saturn as their patron deity.I actually think this is the source of their eternal pariah status, and a major source of their very questionable behaviour, but I digress. Saturn is the name Romans gave the God. It's how they worshiped him. The Saturnalia is probably the most well known of Roman festivites, and a very popular one at that. The notion that the worship of Saturn is alien to Europe is ridiculous.
>>24229304Damn..no...odinand all other gods dont read Post..or view vids...you are like THE example how amerikanische mind work...damn...(Uhm and no, gods dont follow on fb,Twitter, instagram etc . either)
>>24229358Iran is100 percent circumcised by the way. Just like london and paris and all europoors under the age of 50 now.
>>24229360You're wrong. Trump serves the king of the jews and this world belongs to Israel now.
>>24229356>Why do pagan larpers always associate themselves with vikingsJews control modern culture, and allow positive views of only certain groups, like Vikings. What most don't understand is that the Semitic infiltration of Europe is very ancient. Europa herself was a kike princess, and the Vikings were just Phoenicians (Hebrews) who had migrated into the North Sea. In other words, the Vikings were kikes, and that's why kikes today allow positive views of Vikings to be expressed in modern media.So because positive views of Vikings are allowed, and almost no one realizes they were kikes, whites that are hungry for a positive white identity latch onto them. Instead, they ought to to be countering Jewish values by revaluing whiteness or latching on to actually-white groups like Anglo-Saxons, but that would be more difficult.
>>24229321>Tranny stylejews invented trannies. If trannies are bad, why follow a jewish offshoot religion?
>>24229359>Saturn is the name Romans gave the God. It's how they worshiped him. The Saturnalia is probably the most well known of Roman festivites, and a very popular one at that. The notion that the worship of Saturn is alien to Europe is ridiculous.The Romans synchretized everything under the Sun.Saturn was originally not a Latin god.He came by way of the Orientalization and Plebiscization of Rome.Agriculturalists have agricultural cults.Hence Saturn, Cybele, Isis, Adonis, etc.They were the first oriental wave that paved the way for chrisscuckery.
>>24229208My ancestors came from Ireland, they never worshiped Odin. Their only knowledge of him was from the Vikings sacking and pillaging their lands in his name, why would I worship him? And you're a slovak, why do you care?
>>24229363>Europa herself was a kike princess, and the Vikings were just Phoenicians (Hebrews) who had migrated into the North Sea. In other words, the Vikings were kikes, and that's why kikes today allow positive views of Vikings to be expressed in modern media.American edumacation.Europa means Dawns Eye in Greek.And she was a nymph daughter of Eos, dawn goddess Eos.And a cousin to the Eastern Wind - Euros.You chrisskikes judaize everything.
>>24229366Because Mercury was the patron god of the Celts.As expressed by Caesar.And Ollathir is cognate to Allfather.
>>24229361And americans but they have no excuse as muzzies do
>>24229208>Ignoring that the Celts, Romans, Greeks, Slavs, and other White people had their own gods.Yes, embrace the traditions of your non existent Aryan ancestors
Just be a samurai
>>24229369>Genital mutilation is okay when they do it because "Itz dey kultuah!"
>>24229370Odin is common from Ireland, to Italy, to India.The christians literally planted their synagogue in Rome in the hill to Odin.
>>24229373>Bringing Indians into thisNow you will certainly lose White converts.
>>24229208Because polytheism isn't intellectually fulfilling to me so I can't believe itI can't follow something I don't believe in
>>24229374Wotan in Germany.Vati in Rome.Vayu in India.Odin is literally in the Vedas.Its a Pan-Indo-European deity.
>>24229208Jesus is the only white God
>>24229376>Yes saar, we are White just like Europeans saar. Please let me see White woman bobs and vagene now.
>>24229210>>24229209>>24229208>>24229212Civilized white people will always win.
>>24229227Based. If your ancestors choose Christ, and kept Christ for centuries, it means Christ is better.
>>24229378Non sequitur. Whatever.
>>24229381>Do the needful. I am White like you.
>all these gods>powerless against literal demonic faggots>even promote and project them
>>24229376>Vayu in India.I actually laughed out loud.
>>24229384>mention india>muslims get triggeredYou faggots are automata.
>>24229208Because the jew God told me that all I had to do was believe and I would be absolved from all responsibilities.
>>24229323>Also with the god Set in Egypt.>Who famously castrated Osiris.>>And who, according to the Egyptians, was the patron god of the Semites.Set is the Egyptian god of foreigners. Makes sense for it to be the God of those rootless cosmopolitans who are flooding every country with as many foreigners as they can.I also can see how the name "Set" sounds similar to "Saturn". Like in a game of telephone where a word changes a little bit each time it gets passed on to someone else.
>>24229385Nah, I laughed because Vayu is nothing like Odin.
>>24229367The cult of Saturn is attested by the Romans to have been present already even before the republic was established, the festivities being present in Numa's calendar. The cult had very deep roots in Roman culture...
>>24229208Odin is not a real god.He died and stayed dead, with his wife, Freya, round about the second century.
>>24229389Sorry, this was meant as a reply to >>24229365
Because I don't worship satan you larpagan faggot
>>24229388The Indians on pol like that Portugal anon are most likely Dravidians that have no Caucasian blood, but pretend they are Punjabi Brahmin.
>>24229378He's right you know. If you want authentic aryan faith out of the bronze age because you're so authentic then india is the only place you're gonna find it now.
>>24229214>voluntarily accepted ChristianityOnly if you ignore the minor little detail of how those who rejected this "voluntary acceptance of Christianity" got beheaded.
>>24229394>Yes saar, go to India for the White man's religion saar.
>>533403275Without him, you wouldn't have food, electricity, internet, shelter, medicine, etc..
>>24229208I never got how pagans who worship strength reconcile their worship with the fact that paganism was entirely defeated and rooted out. I guess the answer is because he’s dead? It’s a dead god. And he was killed by the existence of Christ. Whatever you think of Christ, how little you think of him or how weak you think he is, he has proved to be stronger than your gods. Is Odin really so weak that his worship was entirely eradicated by people who preach against cruelty and violence? Than what is he worth?
>>24229387Set and Saturn arent cognates.Coptic is translated this way.But his name is undecipherable in terms of phonetics.It was something like SHWJ or STS.The Hebrews stole the the non-vowel structure that the Egyptians had for their theonyms.>>24229388>Vayu is nothing like OdinLol.God of Wind and Storms.God of Breath of Life, PranaLiterally Odin and the Odr force.Spare me the bullshit.>>24229389Yes. But the Latins werent originally agriculturalists.And there is no Saturn in any of the other Italic peoples north of Rome.Not in the Venetians, Oscans, Volscians, etc.
>>24229395Getms were the first european people to dump their nigger gods in mass for the living god of jesus. They were all converting to when most romans were still worshiping demons.
>>24229393SadlyDravidian stuff is so alien to me too>>24229399>Spare me the bullshitNoGo back to worshipping Murugan or something
>>24229398there's no contradiction anymore than old age "conquering" youth, or disease "conquering" health, Europeans reduced to jew cattle is the linear, direct consequence of their fall into sickness
>>24229368The "skyfather" archetype is present in almost every group descended from the PIE people, but that's because most of these religions are descended from the religion as the Yamnaya, who held their "skyfather/warfather" as their chief deity. Yahweh is also a God that comes from this archetype. Are you saying that worship of Yahweh is actually worship of Odin by a different name? Wouldn't that mean that Christians already worship him? Also, the ancient Irish believed the Dagda physically dwelt in Ireland, it was his home as much as it was theirs. Nordic cosmology was very different, but to them, Odin didn't dwell in Ireland. He was removed, but still nearby. Neither group would have seen these two gods as the same person, especially not in times of conflict. The idea of Odin as a universal god is actually rooted in Christian universalism. In actual ancient pagan societies, gods and goddesses were tied to the land their worshipers inhabited. Much like a mortal king, they often had a physical dwelling place, and the further you went from this place, the less influence this god could have over you. If you went to another city or kingdom, a different god was in charge now.
>>24229396It do be like that. Why? Because your steppe nigger nonsense out of the copper age isnt the white mans religion. Its the brown jeets religion.
>>24229208You are several hundreds of years late into this conversation.
>>24229404>If I say jeet maybe they will think I am one of the anons and they will take me seriously.
>>24229366>why paganism disappeared?It didn't. Christcucks were still burning people at the stake for "witchcraft" up until the 1700s. If they failed to eradicate paganism up until that point then its clear it was never fully eradicated.>Where are your gods?Where is jesus? 2000 years and still no 2nd coming. And now Muhammad is the top baby name in a lot of "christian" countries.
>>24229403Yahweh is a donkey headed chaos deity from the high desert of Sinai.So definetly no.
>>24229398Theres nothing to contradict or reconcile because they are larping. There are no actual pagans except in india and parts of africa.
>>24229406You dont realize that Hinduism is literally a pagan religion dont you?
>>24229409>There are no actual pagans except in india and parts of africa.I am here.Pagan, Goy, Gentile, Kaffir.All in one.
>>24229366>they never worshiped OdinCeltic Paganism was a thing. In fact, they worshiped the very same gods as the Norse, albeit with different names. All Indo-European religions are just as closely related as Indo-European languages also are. Just subtle variations of the same core.
>betray http://runeberg.org/medstat/0354.htmlThe Law of Uppland (Upplandslagen):>Laghæ yrkir war Wiger Spa, heþin i heþnum timæCreator of the law was Viger Spa, pagan in pagan times>Hwat ær wi hittum i hans laghsaghu, ær allum mannum þarfflikt ær, þæt sætium wir i bok þessæThat which we find in his law compilation, that's good for all people, we will include in this bookEverything "Christian" in our society is just copypasted from polytheism and rebranded. In summary:1. Introduce new, trendy faith.2. Take some elements from the old faith and incorporate them in your new faith.3. Slowly gain followers for hundreds of years.4. When you have a larger following you simply ban the old faith and its practices.It was gradual subversion.
>>24229411Yes there are larpers. Not many but they exist. Do they in any way reflect old pagan traditions? No not at all.
>>24229414They would shit themselves in terror at the thought of giving a blood eagle to Odin.
>>24229414>Do they in any way reflect old pagan traditions? No not at all.Uncircumcised from birth til now.Never grovelled to a rabbi, to a prayer mat, or a Black Box/Cube.All the marks of a supreme anti-Semite.
>>24229399>Yes. But the Latins werent originally agriculturalists.>And there is no Saturn in any of the other Italic peoples north of Rome.>Not in the Venetians, Oscans, Volscians, etc.So?The cult is attested, it is one of the most ancient cults in one of the major European primary sources we have regarding religion in pre-abrahamic Europe. At which point do you stop stripping down the religion? How many Gods would you reject?If you recognised the existance of the Gods, why would you reject them like that? The Romans discovered Saturn in very ancient times, formed an idiosyncratic form of worship that was at the very roots of Roman culture. Developing knowledge and cultic practice takes time.I don't want to say you are acting in bad faith or anything when I say this, but your approach to the Gods comes across to me less as someone who knows the Gods exist and wants to worship them appropriately, and more like someone who wants to craft a religious-shaped accessory for their political views.
>>24229402Ah a god who does not protect or provide to his worshippers against the fall of their own selves and himself as an extension. While of course the worship of Christ has coincided with the most absolute strength Europeans have ever had, more than Rome could ever dream of. Alright. An old man who worships youth is in arrested development. >>24229409Kind of my point.
>>24229414this might be unbelievable to revolting shit colored animals like you christians but you are a "pagan" ipso facto if you don't worship the rabbi king you are groomed into
>>24229416But you drink cow piss and play with shit for your gods.
>>24229379>Create civilizationsGreco-Roman civilization was created by Pagans. It was right after Rome adopted Christianity that it collapsed and Europe entered into the dark ages where Christcuck Inquisitors stifled scientific progress for many centuries. We would be out exploring the universe right now if Pagan Rome had endured and not been subverted by (((Christianity))).
>>24229417I would strip the pre-Indo-European agricultural deities.Poseidon, Saturn, Bona Dea, Ceres, etc.
>>24229407Interesting bait but not interested>>24229408I'm seeing your bias come in here. Yahweh is depicted as: >a father>a protector, especially in war>a giver of wisdom and laws>wielding the power of the storm>having slew a great serpentYahweh is a storm deity, descended from the same Yamnaya deity as Odin. He's not a "donkey headed chaos god" that's just silly. Also, you didn't bother to address how Odin being universal is antithetical to our understanding of ancient pagan societies.>>24229412See >>24229403With the benefit of hindsight and archeology we can see that all these gods are cognates of each other, but that's not now how the ancients viewed them.>>24229421The "dark ages" are a myth. No reputable historian uses this term anymore.
>>24229418>Ah a god who does not protect or provide to his worshippers against the fall of their own selves and himself as an extension.that's just projection of how your tribe conceived god as a big brother to save you from your own sickness and filth, gods have no obligation whatsoever towards worthless humans who choose to become domesticated thralls, especially a god like Wotanyou are kinda right insofar as there's no greater serf domestic race as the one that conquered the world, and the results are visible to all
>>24229419Almost like it’s a primal animist state of mind fit for a child that requires no spiritual effort and offers no spiritual benefit. If you even believe in a spirit. By the way in what way do I worship Odin if I don’t worship Christ? Are you sure I wouldn’t worship lightning instead?
>>24229420I dont drink jewish blood from a wine chalice.Thats right.
>>24229416And that right there is an example of how much of a larper you are. Pagans didnt compare themselves to semites or voice opposition to them. They werent even racial in any way. You’re acting like a meme version of a nazi out of a hollywood movie. Not a pagan. Ironically the cucky fag pride loving pagan federations of europe are much closer to what actual paganism was than this stormfag stuff you only see in threads on /pol/.
>>24229425yes that's right I'm a silly primate like Homer, Plato and Seneca and I desperately need a slave race like yours to be taught, please teach me Saul, I need your mutilated levantine monkey race to rise out of filth
>>24229426I don't either. I also don't play with urine and feces like you do.
>>24229424The results of secularism. Which you are closer to than I am. Or did it not coincide with the decline of the west?I also don’t know why you pretend that pagan gods do not offer favor for worship. I don’t recall European paganism being entirely separated from human will, quite the opposite.
>>24229423>He's not a "donkey headed chaos god" that's just silly.Your judaism was not always iconoclastic.
>>24229403>In actual ancient pagan societies, gods and goddesses were tied to the land their worshipers inhabited. Much like a mortal king, they often had a physical dwelling place, and the further you went from this place, the less influence this god could have over you. If you went to another city or kingdom, a different god was in charge now.This is obviously not the case when we read the ancient pre-Christian literature of Europe, though. Cities and places did have their patron Gods, but that doesn't mean Gods aren't universal, just that their cultic practices are. You see it all the time in Greek and Roman writers how they translate accurately foreign names of the Gods to their own. For example, as that anon established above, Julius Caesar saw that the Celts worshipped Mercury as their primary God.
>>24229384>I actually laughed out loud.Regardless of whatever 99.99% of modern Indians are, it doesn't change the fact the Ancient Aryans who brought Hinduism to the subcontinent were White. Picrel will give you an indication of what those people looked like. A few of them still look like this even now today.And you laugh because most Indians are brown today and yes that is true, but your country will also be just as brown within another century or so. Abrahamic religions are what destroyed India and what is likewise also destroying the West at the present moment in time. jews and Christcucks are the ones saying we need to bring in infinity migrants.
>>24229427>Pagans didnt compare themselves to semites or voice opposition to them. They werent even racial in any way.You must be joking.
>>24229430favor for worship yes, if no worship => no favor or obligation from the gods to give a shit about how you end upEuropeans abandon gentile gods => become worthless thralls, action => reaction
>>24229428The fact that you slide into profanity after being polite is embarrassing for you. If you were rude from the start I’d assume you were an idiot but now it seems like you’re just getting angry because you have no answer. Because you don’t. Oh well. You will be thought indeed.
>>24229433So what is India's excuse? They followed the Aryan gods and they got ovvrean by Dravdians.
>>24229437Dravidians*
>>24229436I answered how it's appropriate after your laughable arrogant boutade from the height of your worthless parasitic existence.
>>24229435And that reaction is the eradication of Odin worship and the start of an age of absolute European power. Oh sorry, only for Odin worship to return alongside secularism as that power declines. Your god drives a hard bargain, what can I tell you.
>>24229400>the living god of jesusHe's dead, Jim.
>>24229208LARPagans are so funny when they forget that their heckin marble movie deities were only worshipped by a single fucking subset of european tribes.I can assure you, sir, that no Lusitanian, Celtiberian or Visigoth worshipped "Odin"
>>24229421Lol you don't even know basic history, Christianity didn't become dominant till 380 ad i believe, even with Constantine they were still a minority, Rome was already collapsing because of constant civil wars, heavy taxation, over extending their fronts ect. Larpagans are so historically retarded its laughable
>>24229440Your logic carries no veridity.If the Jew god made Europeans win.Then by that logic he should have made the Ethiopians and Armenians win.
>>24229439To the notion that spirituality is beyond the immediate pagan instinct of nature. No, you didn’t, you just couldn’t think of anything else to say. Sorry that I’m being arrogant, I am as arrogant towards your dead god as the Roman’s were towards the Jews who’s God has abandoned them. Rightfully so.
>>24229442And before you say>muh heckin wodanzHe is about as germanic as Zeus or Mars
>>24229445Did "GAWD" abandon you in the Holocaust?
>>24229422Why though? We live in agricultural societies, anon. Who am I to reject a God? And I find the idea that you would take away the cult of Poseidon amusing. Poseidon has obvious PIE roots, being connected to horses. Hades, Poseidon, and Zeus are probably cultic refractions of a pre-indo-european deity.Zeus of the Heavens, Zeus of the Sea, and Zeus of the Underworld. You find this quite a lot in Greek religion, and myth. For example in Paunasias you find that the city of Argos worshiped Zeus Triophtalmos. Who had a third eye on the forehead and was a sort of accumulation of the three into one.
>>24229442>marble movie deitiesMarvel is from the same authors as the Bible.
indians are pagan
>>24229447Did Vishnu abandon you when the British occupied, oppressed and starved millions of your people for centuries?
>>24229448>Poseidon has obvious PIE roots, being connected to horses.Poseidon was clearly Pelasgian and Pre-Greek.
>>24229445>immediate pagan instinct of naturethis is your strawmen which I addressed, I can't help you with your ill posed idea that pagan = goyim = animals and non pagans = enlightened menorah tipping fiveheads, it's in your blood
>>24229450the blackest apest africans with double digit archaic hominid admixture who barely look human are christiane.g look in a mirror
>>24229444No other savage nation worships Christ in the way Europeans do. They are all seeped in their savage paganism that they refuse to let go of. Can be clearly seen in South America, Africa. But in any case I do not attribute European supremacy to Christ alone. But the worship of Christ seemed to be conducive to their supremacy, and Odin has seemed to fail to exact any meaningful punishment to those who abandoned him. Which is why I use the word coincide.
>>24229434They weren't. They didnt even conceive of race in the way the modern people do. The main reason all pagans are larpers now is because you have to be a low iq primitive nigger out of the turd world to even conceptualize reality in the same way ancient bronze age primitives did. The modern western mind doesn't process reality in the same way as ancient people did. You’re too evolved, rational, and honestly not retarded enough. Shocking i know! You dont process a reality where spirits are everywhere and every action is a transactional bargain with uncaring and often malicious sprits. Asking the white mind to return to a pre axial age religion is like asking a white mind to see reality the same way that a Haitian does. Its just not something that is possible barring extensive head trauma.
>>24229454More Indians are Christian than Americans these days.Half the parishes in Portugal are ministered by Indians or Africans.
I refuse to believe in a god that doesn't favour white people.
>>24229454Only the Orthodox are Christians.
>>24229454You are indian.
>>24229458you're SOL unless you invent a god.
>>24229208Might is right, you lost pagan faggot. Yahweh btfo your white incel g-d’s
>>24229460you are projecting
>>24229447>>24229453As always returning to silly stereotypes and catchphrases, unable to discuss the points. Your lucky geolocation is here to bail you out. The holocaust didn’t happen but if it would it would be an apt start to the punishment of the Jews.
>>24229456>the ancients were ignorant>we are sapientDont read Cicero, Juvenal or Tacitus.
>>24229448>>24229449>moving the goalpostthe fact is that Larpagans are retarded and think that worshipping the most recognizeable pagan deity when his ancestors either were entirely ignorant or straight up got murdered by the believers of said deityEven if I did believe in LARPaganism, the only person who would be "going back to the roots" by worshipping Woodeng would be Sven from Stockholm, not the Portuguese, not the Spanish, not the Italians, not the French, not the English, not the Scottish, not ANYBODY except Sven from Stockholm.
>>24229463Indian poop worshipper.
>>24229464>As always returning to silly stereotypes and catchphrases>"Almost like it’s a primal animist state of mind fit for a child that requires no spiritual effort and offers no spiritual benefit"lil Schlomo could use a mirror
Read the poetic edda, it's great. Odin gets hammered all the time and once gives his clothes to a scarecrow. It's not a magic scarecrow, he's just drunk. And he knows precisely 18 spells.
>>24229456low iq ≠ primitive, real high iq people realize that the tribal primitive lifestyle is the only way to be fulfilled as a human
>>24229433>the Ancient Aryans who brought Hinduism to the subcontinentVedism, Hinduism is a corruption of Vedism.>were WhiteAbsolutely. No doubt about it.
>>24229466In order to become "pagan" you only need to denounce the "gawd" of Abraham.You dont need anything else.
>>24229367You are literally insane. Europa is a character from Greek mythology, and even within those myths she was ethnically Phoenician. The Phoenicians were Hebrew-speaking child-sacrificers, just like their descendants today.Open a book, shitskin.
>>24229452His cult is not Pelasgian.This is from Paunasias' description of Greece.>Here are placed votive offerings, including a wooden image of Zeus, which has two eyes in the natural place and a third on its forehead. This Zeus, they say, was a paternal god of Priam, the son of Laomedon, set up in the uncovered part of his court, and when Troy was taken by the Greeks Priam took sanctuary at the altar of this god. When the spoils were divided, Sthenelus, the son of Capaneus, received the image, and for this reason it has been dedicated here.>The reason for its three eyes one might infer to be this. That Zeus is king in heaven is a saying common to all men. As for him who is said to rule under the earth, there is a verse of Homer which calls him, too, Zeus:—>“Zeus of the Underworld, and the august Persephonea.”Hom. Il. 9.457The god in the sea, also, is called Zeus by Aeschylus, the son of Euphorion. So whoever made the image made it with three eyes, as signifying that this same god rules in all the three “allotments” of the Universe, as they are called.
>>24229273>Yahweh is Saturn.Yep and Aryan religions are of the spirit of the sun and got BTFO, Saturn > The sun. You lost tranny
>>24229466uh? where did I move any goalpost?
>>24229244>dog protestant, who allowed you to read the bible by your own and interpret it by yourself?>NOOO HOW DARE YOU READ THE BIBLE AS WRITTEN WITHOUT POPE GOLDSTEIN'S KOSHER INTERPRETATION!!!
>>24229418>Ah a god who does not protect or provide to his worshippers against the fall of their own selvesYou mean like your God?
>>24229476Misclick.
>>24229473>Derived from eurys ("wide") and ops ("face," "eye," or "countenance"). It likely described the broad coastlines of mainland Greece as viewed from the Aegean islands or sea.Literally a dawn nymph retconned by the Hebrews.>>24229475Jupiter defeats Saturn/Typhon.So its not linear.
>>24229468You are the one who claimed that paganism is the natural state of worship without Christ. I asked you how is it different than a direct worship of the elements. By the way regarding flags, am I not talking to the two brownest nations in Europe? If I recall you are both victims of centuries of Muslim rape. Who are you exactly? Could it be that you are a shwarty mutt who still clings to his theoretical Europeanism coping with paganism? I’d be careful with the flag stuff until you can afford to emigrate to a white nation. Apologies if you’re northern Italian of course.
>>24229208Odin was the god of the aristocratic and warrior chastes. You fat paganlarpers who live with your parents and have accomplished nothing in life would be lucky to even have Thor as your patron god. But you guys would know all this if you actually believed in what you said you believe in instead of larping, right?
>>24229208Because I must worship jews. Jews told me it was important.
Ok, what is this coin meant to convey? The writing on it appears to be Greek, and the figure is holding an Ankh. Where did this coin come from, and when? >>24229432When Caesar visited Gaul, he viewed the locals as worshiping Mercury, but would they have said the same thing? One thing you have to keep in mind about Roman sources is that they're relentlessly pro-roman. Accounts are twisted or fabricated in order to serve a political goal. The "wicker men" as a perfect example of this. Caesar's goal was to conquer Gaul and make it part of Rome. By making the argument that the Gauls already worship Roman gods, he was making a case for why conquest of Gaul was not only acceptable, but reasonable or even favorable.As I said before, with the benefit of history and archeology, we know that religion evolved and diversified in a similar way to how species evolve and diversify. But the ancients didn't view the world as we do. Gods were universal in that they all existed, but they had defined spheres of influence, and these spheres were defined by geography. In ancient Sumeria, the gods literally, physically dwelt in the temples. Marduk descends from the same "ancestor god" as Odin and Zeus. But Zeus lives atop Mt. Olympus, while Marduk lives In Babylon and Odin in Asgard. From the perspective of an ancient person, how can these gods be the same entity?
>>24229233newton's third law. nothing unnatural like kike-ism.
>>24229423>Interesting bait but not interestedMore like you have no counter-argument.>>24229423>No reputable historianYeah, you christcucks only trust the (((experts))).
>>24229481>You are the one who claimed that paganism is the natural state of worship without Christnope, putting words in my mouth after being caught with his pants down, very common tactic from judaeo-christian filth, I'm used to it don't worry
>>24229395the thing is Christianity is a kike religion that was developed for the purpose of subversion and destruction first, it is not a religion that prioritizes its worshippers but rather prioritizes the destruction of other religions it's expressly stated multiple times in its text because (((Paull))) made the religion to incite mobs from within Rome and the text read exactly like something designed to rouse a mob
>>24229478Literally quoted the same incident a couple posts down you dumb burger. 66 BC.. I wonder why he abandoned them at that point exactly huh? Almost seems like a punishment for rejecting Christ. You think that’s a good argument for paganism?
>this god beat that god>oh yea well this one is the one who made the thing and protected the people but not u, u r stinky>no u r stinky and that god is a pussyyou sound like autistic comic fags, which is appropriate.
>>24229489>66 BCAnother 6 reference.Hebrews and the number 6 man.
>>24229480>dipshit doesn't know the difference between the etymology of a word and the semantic meaning of the wordEuropa the character was Phoenician, moron. She appeared in an Indo-European culture (Greek), so had an Indo-European name. You are the reason everyone hates shitskins. Completely incapable of reason, but also completely incapable of realizing your own lack.
>>24229208Because the true God chose the jews to be his chosen people, not because they are greater than any other people but because they are lesser. God's grace and mercy shown time and time again to the rebellious Israelites is not favoritism it is a message of hope, it is God showing that even those who lie, cheat, steal, blaspheme are not cut off from Him but are instead given time to repent and turn to Him. Blind hatred of God because of His choice is the epitome of prideful arrogance. Read the Bible and see what God is actually saying instead of letting your emotions control you like some hormonal woman.
>>24229487>you are a "pagan" ipso facto if you don't worship the rabbi king you are groomed intoWhich I reacted to but you refused to expand upon or explain how my interpretation of it was wrong. Just got angry like someone losing an argument would. Why lie on a board with ids? Anyway you’re a pretty fun talking partner still. Which demon do you worship?
>>24229437>They followed the Aryan gods and they got ovvrean by Dravdians.The Dravidians were always there. Your sequence of events is the exact opposite of what happened. It was the Aryans who invaded and overran Dravidian India. Then another Milennia later the Abrahamic Muslims showed up and that's what really fucked India up.
>>24229380>>24229217Ultimate sunk cost fallacy.Christianity is nonsense. Christians necessarily believe that a middle easterner from 2000 years ago will reappear one day and bring the dead back to life. There might be problems with other religions, but they don't believe anything as retarded as that.You're much better off worshipping Columbina.
>>24229492>Europa the character was PhoenicianThats retconning.Like the muslims saying that dunecoon Abraham lived in Arabia.Retconning.
>>24229208I really wish people would read the Edda before having takes like this. You cannot betray Oden because you don't owe him any allegiance, nor does he owe you any allegiance. It's a Christian idea that you belong to your god. It's simply not the case in Norse religion, or any pantheistic religion, really. The relationship between faithful and the gods is transactional. You don't pray to the gods in Norse religion, you make a sacrifice. You don't receive any miracles, you receive guidance. And you won't get it in the sense of holy light magical vibes like in Christianity.
>>24229494it's not my fault you are so subhuman like all judaeochristian filth you have trouble with elementary english, do you need english lessons beyond the obvious?a pagan is someone who doesn't worship rabbi yeshua, abraham or other jewish comic book characters, that could mean a sentinelese shaman all the way to Pythagoras and Laotzi, but you, in perfect judaeuchristian filth guise, concluded this meant "a primal animist state of mind fit for a child that requires no spiritual effort and offers no spiritual benefit"speaks for itself, all I need to do is make you subhumans talk for yourselves
>>24229498Thats another thing about Abrahamism.Theologically, to them, a god is obcessive compulsive entity which cares only for the affairs of mortals.To the Greeks, Romans and other IE peoples.The gods absolutely dont give a fuck about mortals.It is mortals who should care about immortals.Not the other way around.Which is the crux of both Islam and Christianity.
>>24229440>the start of an age of absolute European power.Sure, Spain was a Christian country at the time, but isn't it a funny "coincidence" how Spain's golden age began the same time they also expelled your people from its borders? You've been expelled from over a hundred countries throughout history, and it seems like all these places massively improve as a result. As if they've had some parasite removed that was siphoning their prosperity.
>>24229303Any Jew can out run him just wave a dollar at the finish line.
>>24229486Go to any European museum and ask them about the "dark ages." They'll tell you the same thing. The fall of Rome was an incredibly complex event; if someone tells you it was caused by one single thing, they don't know what they're talking about. For a few hundred years after the fall of Rome, it can be said that there was a "Dark age" since society had literally collapsed, but people picked themself back up and society moved on again. The idea that the world was dark and miserable and terrible for 1000 years is a trick pulled by enlightenment thinkers. They stood of the shoulders of giants, but wished to be the giants. So they convinced people nothing came before them. Incidentally, this is the same trick people pull when they try to convince you that the modern era is the best, and nothing from the past has any value, or any aspects we should aspire to. Visit these museums for yourself; the historians there love to tell people about history. They can explain it to you in far better detail than I ever could.
>>24229499So you think that’s atheism is paganism? Because if not then you are the one in need of English lessons. Anyway you refuse to admit which pagan god you worship? I get it, it’s shameful. Oh well, I just wanted to learn something new about European history desu.
>>24229501I don’t need your fucking 2016 redpills, I’m was more antisemitic then than you’ll ever manage to be, I fucking know already.
>>24229504>So you think that’s atheism is paganism?man this one must be one of those highly inbred troll looking mizhrahis or something, what the fuck is this chromosomally abundant monkey on about? who mentioned atheism?
>>24229497No, it isn't. It's a basic fact present in literally every Greek version of the myth. It's the central point of the story and was foundational to the Greek's mytho-historic worldview. You're just a reactionary, low-IQ shitskin who took a position on something he had literally never heard of before, got anally raped by me, furiously turned to google in order to find out I was right, and then doubled-down. You'll burn for your hubris, beast.
>>24229208Wotan is the god of another race of kings.I trace my ancestry to the kings of Leix, and through them, to Conall Cernach, who was a Fianna of the Red Branch, and companion of Cú Chulainn, and his avenger.His parents were of the tribe of Ulaidh, but their union was barren, so on a druid's advice the wife drank from a holy well, and swallowed a worm.She became pregnant thereat, and at the child's birth, it was prophecied that he would slay more than half the men in Connacht.On hearing this, his uncle Cet Mac Magarach, siezed the infant, and stamped upon and broke his neck, for he was of the tribe of Connacht.But Conall survived, and grew into a terrible giant, with his neck ever crooked, and no greater killer of Connachtmen was ever born, for he would not sleep without a Connachta's head beneath his knee.The monks say he travelled to The Holy Land with Simon Magus, and saw Christ crucified on the cross, but that's a syncretism.He lived through the reign of many high kings.Took the brain ball of Mescegra, and flung it so it lodged in the skull of Conchobar Mac Nessa, irretrievably.And when Conchobar was told of the death of Christ on the cross, ten years later, he was so incensed that the brain ball popped out of his skull, whereupon he promptly died.And he fought at the eight doors of Da Derga's Hostel, when Ingcél Cáech took the head of High King Conaire Mor, who was fated to die for he broke his three géis.Conall himself was under a géis that his head could never be claimed by a single Connachtman.So in the end, when he was very old, and had killed more than half of the men of Connacht, the remainder of the Connachta gathered into a great throng, and hunted him down, though at least once he tricked them and got away, in the end he was slain at a river, and his enormous head was cut from his body, and a dozen men rolled it away.There are many stories about Conall Cernach.
>>24229505>more antisemiticHow can you anti-Semitic and Christian?Hell of a paradox.All while parading an Israeli flag.
>>24229443>Christianity didn't become dominant till 380 ad i believeYeah, and then (western) Rome fell to "Barbarians" about a century later, so there you go.>b-but Christcucks were only a minority at the time when the empire began to declineAnd cancer cells are only a minority of a cancer patients body when that patients health begins to decline too. Rome wasn't built in a day as the saying goes, but it also didn't collapse within a day either. The cancer that is Christianity took some time before it fully metastasized and kill the patient. But as you point out the sickness and ill health was a slow-roll. But it correlates with the rise of Christianity.
>>24229500Indeed. At best, you can make a sacrifice to a god that might (or might not) care about the thing you're asking for help with. But it's transactional. You better be bringing something as sacrifice, and you better demonstrate that you understand your place as a mere human. But there's no subservience, like there is in Abrahamic religions. I am not obligated to plead and beg and scrape my foot like a pauper. But if I am asking for help from someone much more powerful than myself, then I should demonstrate proper deference.
>>24229208betray would imply I was once stupid enough to worship a tree demon that was essentially a magnified human personality that demanded human sacrifice. I was never that much of a fool.
>>24229506You can’t write. Learn how to express your ideas. If you mark paganism by the abstract of abrahamism you include all except abrahamism. I now understand, unironically, that this is not your belief, which is not at all obvious from “you are a "pagan" ipso facto if you don't worship Christ”, especially reacting to a post claiming you have no real tradition. >>24229509I’m an enigma wrapped in a mystery I guess. Also not being sub hundo IQ helps.
>>24229500>God should be an angry hateful deviant because I understand those things better than grace, love and personal relationshipsBasically you want a God who is not truly divine, who isn't truly just, isn't truly righteous and doesn't truly want his creation to live according to his perfect ways.You are a bootlicker and you don't even know it, you worship power and that is why you choose false gods over the real God, because the false gods. False gods are the creations of carnal humans, that is why they are always depicted as proud warriors who war with other gods.The true God wars with no one and instead commands his creation to obey Him out of love and respect, giving us time to repent and making a simple way for us to be reconciled to Him.You choose pride over salvation because you care more about your image as a man than you do about your eternal destiny. Pathetic.
>>24229484>By making the argument that the Gauls already worship Roman gods, he was making a case for why conquest of Gaul was not only acceptable, but reasonable or even favorable.It's common language going back to the bronze age, there's tablets with treaties written down that obviously feature the translatability of Gods.It's overly present in ancient Greco-Roman literature as well. Herodotus does it all the time in his work without any intention to conquer anyone.>Marduk descends from the same "ancestor god" as Odin and Zeus. But Zeus lives atop Mt. Olympus, while Marduk lives In Babylon and Odin in Asgard. From the perspective of an ancient person, how can these gods be the same entity?What you are doing here is confusing two topics, one is the one of ensouled statues, particularly in the context of cultic practice, and the other is myth regarding the dwelling place of a deity. I won't go into the later, Sallust's work on the Gods already does a good enough job explaining myths and I don't really have the time to continue the conversation further. The former is however very easily refuted by the fact that we find all across Greece temples dedicated to different Gods, and they house them inside those temples, yet there's no confusion. The idea that a God can't dwell simultaneously in two places is absent. An obvious example would be Zeus' temples. Zeus had major temples all across Greece, and further beyond after Alexander's conquests. The general strucutre of a temple included an ensouled statue, that was seen as a physical body for Zeus' to be present at in cultic practice. It was fundamental that the God was present inside the temple, which acted as a house for the God, and a big part of the priest's job was to make the accomodation appropriate for the God. This was a key element of religious life, no one found contradictory the fact that there were multiple ensouled statues across the world.
>>24229513>If you mark paganism by the absence* of abrahamismFucked this post a bit. Gotta stop phone posting. Anyway I know that I’m extremely arrogant but I hope I wasn’t extra rude on top of it. If so sincere apologies.
>>24229514Gods should be indiferent.Not overly obcessive and lovebombing like a lesbian.
>>24229500>Worship someone that does not care about you.Why should I? If the gods do not give a fuck about man in the slightest, why would they care if they are being worshiped or not? Christianity has it's flaws, but what makes paganism better if the gods do not care about the men that worship them?
>>24229517>Gods shouldWhat an insane statement
>>24229518Why would you believe that a being concerned with your affairs is somehow more divine than one who isnt?Do you concern yourself with the affairs of amoebas?Do you want to be infantilized and paternalized forever?Are you a child?Do you hope for Peter Pan to come save you?
>>24229517Why do they deserve our worship then? Are they insecure niggers that lose their minds when the people they don't care about suddenly don't care about them?
>>24229489>You think that’s a good argument for paganism?You say jews rejecting Christ is why they were punished, but they've never ceased to reject Christ and yet they're the ones in control over Christcuck countries today. Christcucks serve them.Pagans are the only ones ever to effectively fight back against jews.
>>24229470Anon you could have 1000 i but if you were born into and uncontacted tribe in the amazon your understanding of reality will be limited and primitive. Attempting to see the world in the same was some stone age tribal saw things just isn't possible. You can attempt to understand them but you will never see the world in the same way they did. You know and comprehend the fact that romans believed in household gods and sprits that watched over the front door but you will never believes such spirits actually exist yourself nor will you believe that by sacrificing to such entities regularly that you will be rewarded with supernatural favors in kind. The very way your brain is wired to see reality is different from some savage in wrapped in pelts thousands of years ago. This is why when you see pagan larpers on yidtok its always bullshit about how odin loves you and that thor is just your self improvement bro. They cant even comprehend religion outside of a Christian framework where you have a personal relationship with god and that he loves you.
>>24229520Big difference is I actually don't care what the amoebas think of me. I am truly indifferent to their plight. I am not going to kill them because they won't worship me.
WHATS THE FUCKING POINT YOU NIGGER FUCKING MODSYOU FUCKING NIGGERS
>>24229521>Why do they deserve our worship then?You Americans are so democratic you apply your democracy germ to everything.A god that cares about the existence of a pathetic being like you can only be as pathetic as you.>>24229525Exactly. You are indifferent.And thus you are free.Doesnt it feel good to grow up?
mods are shitRELIGION IS POLITICS MODS
>>24229530So there is no point to worshiping them then if I get nothing out of it.
>>24229534Exactly big boy.Now you can be a man and realize you dont have Peter Pan to "watch" over you.
>>24229530>>24229520>>24229520I think you are very confused, and discussing theology without any solid foundation or structure.There's very compelling argument for a non-Christian religious structure, but you are not making them. Instead you are expressing a very bland, kind of cliche, vision of paganism that reads as if were taken from a mix of Romanticism and Conan the Barbarian.
If you want the wisdom of the gods, then you sacrifice to the gods. If you do not want the wisdom of the gods, then you don't sacrifice to the gods. It really isn't complicated to understand if you don't apply Jew-on-a-stick-reasoning to it. There is no obligation involved, save perhaps social ones if you live in a community that all worship the gods. But the gods won't come down and smite you if you're not interested. They are separate from you, and your relationship with them is transactional. Think of it like petitioning a powerful King. You are not obligated to petition the King, but if you do want his help, you need some way to motivate him to do so.
>>24229539It reads like a masculine view.Which is uncaring and indifferent.Opposite to a feminine view which is overbearing, compulsing and sadomasochistic.The feminine cults have largely won.Since "men" are actually all transgenders.
>>24229546You could at least make an effort and study philosophy. This is a ridiculous take, and it does nothing but spread ignorance.
>>24229549>study philosophy"The gods should come to me. Not I to the gods."Plotinus
>>24229552You can justify anything with quotes taken out of context, it's how evangelicals justify the most heinous acts.
>>24229559I am not proselytizing to you. Thats an abrahamic racket.Do as thou willt shall be the whole of the law.
>>24229538Yet you said earlier than men should care about the immortals. >>24229500Which one is it? Why should mortals care about uncaring immortals?>>24229559He is likely an immigrant or shill larping as a Portuguese.>>24229567>Trying to sound smart by quoting Alister Crowley
>>24229575I was quoting the Odyssey.'All men need the Gods.'Not me though.
>>24229567>Do as thou willt shall be the whole of the law.Why would you quote Crowley if you hate non-European stuff? Are you genuinely retarded? The book of the law was revealed to him by spirits in Egypt through a medium lmao
>>24229641I'm convinced he is an Indian shill. They have a tendency to pull things out of the air that sound witty or deep and hope the anons are too ignorant to know the truth.
>>24229649It does seem that way..I gave him the benefit of the doubt till now, but the fact he pulled a Crowley quote after all he said it's obvious.
>>24229208>you should worship odin>why>because he's your ancestor god o algo
