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Looksmaxxing is a logical step in improving the only real metric women actually care about in 2026. Nowadays a lot of rich guys (techbros and doctors making 300k+ a year) complain about STILL being awful with women despite making lots of money. The reason for this is that nowadays, women make their own money and come with their own status. Women nowadays are more educated than men, there are more women in law and medical school than men, have more social media followers etc.

Literally the only thing in our society women truly need men for is for hedonistic purposes. The reason a lot of guys aren't even getting married is that a lot of women don't even want to settle with a betabux anymore, especially now since they have their own bux. Many would rather just have casual sex into their 40s than to "settle" for some loser. That's why there are still all these single guys into their 30s that would have been married previously that are still single. That's the true blackpill
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>>24257915
kys
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you can look good in face and body and still have a tiny SWC like 5 inches. I am not sure is cock extending surgery is a thing. Just go black and not go back.
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>>24257916
women hate you and laugh at the mere thought of being around you because you're gross, just fyi
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>>24257915
>Looksmaxxing
No such thing its a grift
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>>24257917
mutts law
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>>24257915
I'm not doing all that, it's over for me, I'm finished.
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Are women even worth it? You should just grind until you can afford a sex bot or whatever. There's no point in even trying to reproduce anyways.
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>>24257916
Fpbp
/thread
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>>24257915
Reading /pol/ threads about women is so different now that I am married. I hate to admit it but normies are actually closer to the truth when it comes to dating than /pol/.
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>>24257915
This shit is gay as fuck
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>>24257915
>Looksmaxxing
gay
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>>24257915
your whole life becomes Looksmaxxing
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>>24257917
That won't matter. You may not keep women in a sexual rotation since they'll likely go back to the guys that are also packing, but you can still have lots of sex. The ugly guy with a big dick gets no love and doesn't get to demonstrate that.
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>>24257915
This is a gay psyop by Peter Thiel. He wants his choice of choice twinks.
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>>24257915
Looksmaxxing is for dysgenic autistic retards. I'm a sub-5 manlet Mexican and I'm not an incel because I'm NTmaxxed. Being NT is literally all you need in 2026.
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>>24257924
Not everywhere is Serbia where you can get a qt 3.14 tradwife by gifting her father an adidas tracksuit. You don’t know how good you have it.
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>>24257915
Once women notice what a neurotic loser he is they will still leave him. Face it, dating in the West is fucked because the narratives women are imbued with suck so there isnt anything you can do. The only way to still win is to retreat into subcultures that dont share the woke culture which is hard to find since even most religions do.

t. guy who married a younger woman from a more trad country
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>>24257917
Its because you're retarded parents cut your penis via Jewish Ritual Sacrifice.
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>>24257932
No offense but did you marry a younger South East Asian?
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>>24257915
Black women have a child out of wedlock at 70%. They all pretty much have agreed with each other about how it's better to have the drug dealer's or sound cloud rapper's kids over having a family. White women will likely start copying them since other groups of women take their cues from black women, see Cardi B, Meg the Stallion, Sexxy Red etc.

Nowadays they get abortions because they care about career advancement. If they didn't, the single mother rate would be ridiculous.
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>>24257934
No, Turk
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>>24257915
You can either have women's rights (or women's wrongs as I like to call 'em) or you can have a functional society above replacement level, but not both at the same time.

The mohammedans (and niggers too, ironically enough) are well-aware of this.
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>>24257924
What do normies actually say about dating? What truth are they closer to?
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>>24257931
>trad
I met my wife 6 years ago when I and her got drunk with a guy from Senegal in a night club in Belgrade.
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>>24257915

Heh. Look up the 1972 John B Calhoun's "Universe 25" experiment at the National Institute of Mental Health.

Mice born into the overcrowded chaos couldn’t form normal social bonds or engage in complex social behaviors such as courtship, mating, and pup-rearing. Instead of interacting with their peers, males (nicknamed the 'Beautiful Ones') compulsively groomed themselves; females stopped getting pregnant. Effectively, they became “trapped in an infantile state of early development,” even when removed from Universe 25 and introduced to “normal” mice. the utopia became hellish nearly a year in when the population density began to peak, and then population growth abruptly and dramatically slowed.

The rats became increasingly violent, developed abnormal sexual behaviors, and began neglecting or even attacking their own pups. Ultimately, the colony died out, despite having a abundant food source and ever-growing room.
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>>24257924
>I willingly turned away from uncomfortable truths because deep down I'm concerned that they could ruin the situation I am currently in
>I genuinely found a unicorn among foids
One of these applies. Honestly, I hope your situation is the latter, but too often do I encounter men living in the former.
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>>24257915
Vanity is a female trait. Faggot.
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>>24257922
Maybe for kids but again you don't need marriage for that. Christcucks keep yapping about marriage and family but the alpha gets women to have kids for him without offering the woman marriage. It's only the betabux that thinks he needs to be married to have kids, then he ends up living the same life as that alpha anyway once she divorces him
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>>24257924
You're one breakup away from being an incel. Stop thinking you're so much above other men because of your current status. Also most guys that are attractive enough to get a woman often don't see WHY that woman chose him over other guys.
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>>24257938
Redpillers are 50% of normies now and they and normies are both wrong since either side things that by levelling up you can still win. You cannot. If women from the little age are told to be the better sex and to keep themselves endless options with everything but the unrealistic 0.0001% outcomes being settling you always lose. It is that simple. You cannot win with Western(ized) women. Neither can they with you because they are convinced they can always do better which in turn by the simple function of time will be proven wrong. By that point though they either must swallow their pride and settle for a bigger loser they would previously not have considered at all or accept loneliness. They increasingly will pick the latter and frame it as a win, the gaping chasm between what they think they deserve and what at an advanced age they realistically can get is too stark for them to accept it.
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>>24257941
Alot of threads on /pol/ make very good points about issues that are prevelent with the female gender but they are prevelent with 50-60% of the female population instead of 99% like /pol/ says.
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>>24257915
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>>24257945
Yeah, I also believe that a lot of guys are with women that settled for them and aren't really that excited to be dating but they don't even realize it. They've never had a woman that was truly obsessed or into them so they don't know what that's like. A relationship like that is destined for failure but they're just happy to be having sex (for now) so put up with her lukewarm behavior.
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>>24257915
So, how many kids does he have?
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>>24257946
It's closer to 70-80%. There are good women out there it's just that they're usually off the dating market by 25 since they usually end up getting married to age appropriate Chads. Zoomers nowadays find age gaps gross so a lot of them won't actually want to marry an older guy even if they might use him as a sugar daddy
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>>24257944
So what if she breaks up with me? I would still love her. The reason why our relationship works so well is because I would give up my happiness for hers, and she would do the same for me.
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>>24257915
Looksmaxxing is homosexual, also if more men look better the bar will just rise
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>>24257915
Dude literally looks fullblown Gay.
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>>24257915
>Many would rather just have casual sex into their 40s than to "settle" for some loser.
so... those kind of women won't reproduce and will go extinct? nature is based.
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>>24257933
hahaha at least my cock smells clean and fresh and not with that extra skin that traps smegma and other vile shit.
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>>24257946
Most of the issues are structural, nothing you can do against it. You dont understand it because you're in a 2nd world country where marriage simply is the normal thing to do. My wife is from Turkey and my mother in law always tells her how she is so lucky to have such a gentleman as a husband. The reality is that Western women usually hear this
> you deserve it görl (despite being a useless whore)
> you deserve more
> men aint shit
> girl power
> everything is discrimination
> all power to women
> men are icky
> every streaming show and tv show character in the last 20 years is either a simp or an evil chad
You really think this has no consequences? The real error of guys as yourself is that you think you are so based when really you arent, you just live in an easier environment
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>>24257948
Most guys dont get it, they think this is normal. That is why they magically find success with women "their age" in their 30s. Yeah these women need someone to pay for shit, nothing else. Ironically these same guys will cope and say that some dude with a younger woman has bought her. Lol maybe true in some cases but most guys do it, they included and in fact they in particular. The woman they got with just needed to decline in value first for them being able to afford her. The difference is they are lying to themselves about it
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>>24257915
I’m a little bit sad because I’m thinning on top
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>>24257954
Each of them takes down at least one man and then you guys complain about men looking for foreign women
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>>24257956
First let me say that me being from a second world country doesn't matter, I met my wife in a night club, alot of good women go to night clubs and dress half naked because they are young and stupid, not EVERY single one of them is a bimbo whore.
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I am down to 206 from 241 in November. /Pol/ will say I should have never worked out at all and given up
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>>24257915
what is looksmaxxing? never heard this? how do I do this?
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>>24257962
step 1 -- have amazing genetics
step 2 -- don't be fat
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>>24257960
>First let me say that me being from a second world country doesn't matter
You cannot even judge this because you are socialized differently. For Serbian women being married is still the standard lifepath, they approach relationships with 10x the seriousness a Western woman would. Sure there exists a small subset of turbowhores in maybe the 2-3 largest cities but on average this remains true. Western women see marriage and everything that goes along with that, procreation for example as optional because they have been told that for 20+ years. If you think that has no consequence on how they judge men and their options you are delusional
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>>24257915
It just isn’t that effective
Don’t be hideous, learn how to be hotter sure however attraction is a large game.
Men boil it down to 2-3 factors when it’s much more then face height frame money or whatever.

Lookism isn’t really the that helpful last a certain point.
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>>24257961
I went from 106kg to 70kg and I’m still invisible. Don’t get your hopes up too much, do it for your health instead
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>>24257946
>50-60% of the female population instead of 99% like /pol/ says
Don't count old women. That's cheating as they're not going to date and have more kids.
Young women have been raised through decades of misandric propaganda, have a cartoonish view of the past, and are not only stupidly entitled, but also they're the first generation of women that's committing crime, and abusing addictive substances to significant numbers while being the most destructive kind of shitlibs who make excuses for every antisocial element
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>>24257966
Because you are invisible. You would have more success in an attention driven environment that is the UK if you made a youtube channel where you go to the park and farted black womens wigs off
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>>24257960
heh, okay buddy.
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>>24257963
im not fat and I look very young for my age.

where r the bitches at ???
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>>24257967
I didn't count old women, I legitimately believe that 40-50% of the female dating market is wife material.
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>>24257915

It’s weird to watch the mainstream media treat this clown like a serious right-wing political commentator. That’s how I know the griftersphere is finding its new pecking order post-Trump right now, and the MSM is grooming new scapegoats to caricaturize reactionaries
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>>24257971
You are an idiot. In the West maybe 10% at most is wife material.
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>>24257915
Imagine being so fucking unlikable you have to resort to making threads like this as a form of cope.
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>>24257915
>the only people still interested in women in 2026 are looksmaxxing queers
Lol. Like a belly laugh.
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>>24257972
He is just there to prep you for transhumanism since thiel wants you to hate your own body. Shit doesnt help much with dating since most issues come from wrong socialization. Most women are unsalvagable, you can look whatever you want it wont help if the woman is fucked in her brain
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>>24257915
We used to call these men faggot metrosexuals in my dad. Now Gen Z worships these folks as celebs. What happened?
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>>24257915
Dont you mean faggotmaxxing? Because that's what it looks like. A bunch of dudes trying to look pretty and no girlfriends. No booze, no drugs, just faggotry. Teenage pregnancy rates went down hard because of you faggy you were in school.
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>>24257915
The new meta is looksminning now, even if you're naturally a chadlite. Women aren't worth it anymore
>shave the top of your scalp into a skullet
>apply minoxidil between eyebrows to cultivate a unibrow
>stop trimming nose hairs, actively pull them down so they stick out of your nose
>grow an unkempt pube beard
>wear zero-drop shoes to minimize height
>drink beer and eat goyslop to get fat
>wear tight shirts that emphasize your moobs and don't fully cover your beer gut
>shower and brush teeth once a week at most
>gargle with a mixture of coffee, fish sauce, garlic and powdered parmesan every morning
>rub stale cigarette butts on wrists for cologne
You need to minimize your looks until you pass below the threshold of male invisibility, you need to become so disgusting that you are impossible to ignore
Take pride in the fact that with your mere presence you are ruining the day of any woman in your vicinity
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>>24257915
looksmaxxing is a retarded circus show to make money of other insecurecels. If you groom yourself and make some effort to look fit and good that's what really matters. Going to insane lengths and become sterile by abusing drugs to looksmaxx is not the play lol. Stop pursuing your own beauty because it's comfy and safe and actually go and meet women and work out being social if that's what you want to get.
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>>24257915
>Looksmaxxing
Won't keep a woman. How about relationshipmaxing
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>>24257974
Looks AI but Iranian women seem like a solid choice
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>>24257971
I can't see it that way. Ask any woman here, and they'll defend women having a long list of legal privileges as equality while being gratuitously despective against the average man (they defend actual criminals and antisocial groups like the fucking gypsies (I kid you not)) e.g. : Saying some radical feminist slogan and expecting the men in the room to agree
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>>24257915
Hope you’ve got $80,000-$100,000 for height surgery because modern women are only interested in “Chad” when he’s 6’1” or taller.
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>>24257917
>Just go black and not go back

In my mid-sized city of ~50k there's only a couple of hot clubs. The one has had two actual fisticuffs over White guys who will not date White girls who have been with non-Whites. Seriously.
They get pissed and start calling the guys racist, etc.

But it's actually quite simple, and always has been: When you go black you don't go back, because no White man will have you. You're poison and now the same as every other non-White.
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>>24257951
>and she would do the same for me.

That's where you're wrong. Women will always prioritize themselves and their happiness over yours. That's why a man will stick in a bad relationship or marriage for the kids and women initiate 70%+ of the divorces, and that number goes up to 90% if she has a college education (although the absolute number of divorces drops)
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>>24257957
Honestly nowadays many attractive women have rich fathers or come from rich families, and the hot middle and lower middle class ones just make an OF. You still need a decent amount of game to be a sugar daddy unless you're just a multi multi millionaire. The few guys I know that are rich and old and with younger women are still fairly good looking for their age.

Also like you said by that time those women in their 30s have had multiple bodies, trauma, at least a few abortions, etc. They've also made it socially taboo for older guys to go after younger women so the choices for these men are either to accept the roasties or stay alone
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>>24257915
>if you concede to women you win
All you need to do is wait for economy to get worse (which it will)
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>>24257915
This guy got famous because Thiel promoted him. There's one image of his legs in a swamp on a boat that would show his true appearance when he's not taking 1000 booty boy angles for Thiel to cream to at night producing extra skin oil.
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>>24257915
Ah yes, kowtowing to women is what we need MORE of.
Men need to start looks minimizing.
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Imagine being an incel loser that punches themselves in the face while seething over women and posting online, yeah that will save soooo much.
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>>24257915

preening yourself to an obsessive degree in order to get pussy is feminine as fuck and turns dudes into subservient little slaves

imagine an entire generation of men putting on eyeliner and bleaching their assholes in order to get the faintest whiff of a rancid cooter

that is the sissified twink army being led by homeboy in the OP image who admits that he has absolutely no game whatsoever

a bunch of zombified zoomers acting like homosexuals will not save the current dating market or even make a dent in the zeitgeist

ordering your life around what women want and appreciate means that you are still endorsing this modern prevailing gynocentric world order

the only way to move the needle here is to start fighting back against it instead of trying to play ball with cunts who want you docile and broke

if every man woke up tomorrow and started beating and raping bitches then every single one of these problems would be solved instantly

the time has come for a resurgence of masculinity to the degree that women get crushed and fucked back into obscurity
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>>24257992
Too many words but your heart is in the right place
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>>24257918
t touchless indian simp
white women will never give you time of day, jeet
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>>24257991
>Thiel
He's promoted by Peter Thiel because Thiel wants to fuck him in the ass and promote a lifestyle to get more boy toys for himself.

There's no reason this kid should have any amount of fame like he does. Zero. He has no personality. He does some stupid bullshit that 100000 other booty boys do.
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>>24257921
You're beautiful anon
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>>24257924
Its mostly jeets that could only get women if cousins family forced the girl.
There are also mutts that are circumcised so it makes sex shitty for women so they seek money and status as replacement.
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nice bait retard. you cant looksmaxx unless you get plastic surgery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFuh0a7zZYk&t=29s
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>>24257915
The only people who even interested in this shit are desperate ugly niggers in denial that they have shit genetics. It’s like how the only dudes who look up puvk up artist shit are unfuckable losers who are so desperate they good how to get girls. If you’re at a point of desperation you’re subscribing to this shit it’s already over for you.
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>>24257995
>He's promoted by Peter Thiel because Thiel wants to fuck him in the ass
Implying he already didnt. Clavicular is gay as fuck and Thiel is his suggar daddy.
Following his tips will only make you more appealing to faggots.
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>>24257952
This is partly true also not. The reality is that the guys that women go after ALREADY have a combination of looks, money and status. The idea of guys only making money may have made sense when everyone was broke. Now approximately 9% of Americans are millionaires, so being rich no longer means what it used to 20 years ago.
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>>24257915
Making yourself look good doesn't stop you from being a chronically online, effete, half-feminized consumer retard. It won't fix anything at all because women aren't men you dumb nigger faggot. Women don't approach men, and if they do it's for short term relationships (IE Sex)
The only way to "save" relationships is to reverse the damage done to human peer to peer interactions.

You're just going to be a retard bonking yourself in the face with a hammer 8 hours a day until you neck yourself at 40 because no one actually settled down for you.
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>>24258000
Thiel is a total degenerate - it's an outrage they let him and his male partner possess a child the purchased via surrogate, total child abuse.
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I put effort into getting things for myself, not for some goblin in makeup that wants to use my money for doordash because she refuses to learn how to cook.
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>>24257915
>caring about what women care about
Why are you like this, Moshe? It has never mattered and never will matter. You know very well muh looksmaxxing doesn't get you a loyal wife. It just gets you a fangirl who eventually becomes a fangirl of someone else. You have to be a turbo-simp or gay to be a looksmaxxer, end of.
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>>24257993

>complaining about reading words

i had no idea you could read at all, chucho

proud of you for studying my post

:^)
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Looksmaxxing really does change your life, but that stupid forum and influencers are what is making the idea seem silly.

I got work done on my face. Cheek filler, chin implant, neck lift, and have been on fin and min. My life has improved tenfold and I wish I did this in my 20s. So, in my 30s I LARP as 20 and never reveal my age unless asked.

What doors did this open? Instead of working a shitty retail job, I sit on my ass at a dental office front desk doing fuckall yet get paid enough to not live with my parents.

Dating has also improved. Instead of fatties, single moms, or girls who ghost the next day, I get normal white girls into pumpkin spice lattes, even getting smiles from young girls at the shopping mall.

I also work out. I have a sense of fashion. I have a hairstyle. Because of this, I get respect. I get treated better. I’m not saying you get free shit, but you get treated with the dignity you deserve.
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>>24257994
fuck off esl retard and go learn english you stupid fuck
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>>24258003
He can always find a girl to do it he is epstein level.
He also fucked vance probably still im his early days.
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>>24258002
>Women don’t approach men
Absolutely false. I now know what it’s like to have a cute blonde cold approach me and say “Ummmm… My friend thinks you’re hot.” You have no idea how much of a self esteem boost that is.
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>>24257915
>Faggotmaxxing
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>>24258010
Yet it is also annoying, they either will fumble it, or act like the most disgusting dirty old (wo)man without a middle term
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>>24258000
>Implying he already didnt.
Tru. The question then becomes more about how much dick he took in the process before and after becoming a male-male tranny.
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Buy an ad
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>>24258010
You didn't quote the whole point. Women don't approach men except for short term relationships.
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>>24257915
Guess I'll get into looksmaxxing. Got nothing better to do. Best case scenario, I die on the operating table, worst case, I go from ugly.............. to ugly.
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>>24258010
>>24258015
And I forgot to add, her FRIEND approached you to tell you that "she" thinks you're hot, you're still expected to go approach her friend, dipshit lmao.
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>>24257916
Damn, the jeet is right.
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>>24257916
fpbp.
for once, the poo did the flushing
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>The reason a lot of guys aren't even getting married is that a lot of women don't even want to settle with a betabux anymore, especially now since they have their own bux.
True, when women reach the same status (level of education and income) as men on a big scale, they can no longer select for status (because so few men are above them). The only thing left then to select for is attractiveness.
We have created a horrible world for men and this will haunt us for the coming decades as well.
At the end of the day, all we are selected for is making contact with eggs. Paying for sex, directly with money or indirectly with accumulation of status, is the default male way of sexual competition. All of life on earth exists to generate tokens and give them to the females in exchange for sex. The only other mating strategy is being born with high quality genes, which one has no control over, so paying for sex is the default strategy for the majority of men as it's the only malleable form of sexual currency we have. This is also my argument for why women shouldn't work or otherwise be allowed financial independence. Because it diminishes the utility/potency of money as a sexual currency for us, leaving us with only looks to trade (Grokipedia "sexual economics theory"). Female financial independence does pull us in this direction whose terminus is just harems (a reversion to "nature", not what we want).
After 2020 the blackpill and looksmaxxing became the new thing instead of "just going outside". That's because it beat out PUA on the strength of its results. The woman does size you up in less than 2 seconds and decides if she's interested, maybe quicker than that, and it can't be changed. "Building attraction" was never real. It's now in that final stage that all new truth goes through where even its former detractors are pretending to have been on board all along. It's self-evident. Painful, but that's what it is. Determinism is always a bitch.
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>>24257954
Lol who said anything about not reproducing? Those women will get IVF and sperm donors when they're in their 40s and have their one or two kids that they'll treat like a pet. Also a lot of poorer women are just having kids in their early 20s or teens and then that way they have already "reproduced" and they don't care to start a family. Maybe they'll look for a rich guy to finance herself and her kid but she wouldn't really be super desperate for a guy like a lot of you guys fantasize about her being.
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>>24257915
Its performative faggotry and deserves the rightful ridicule it receives.
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>>24257956
>she is so lucky to have such a gentleman

That's the fundamental issue here in the west. Being a gentleman or "nice" is actively seen as a bad thing for a guy to be to be good with women here in America. Women legit find guys with dark triad traits more attractive. A drug dealer making 80k a year is MUCH more appealing to most women under 25 than a "nice guy" salaryman making 160k a year.
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>>24258020
>https://grokipedia.com/page/Sexual_economics
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>>24257944
This is the truth I use to get laid quite frequently then was in a relationship for 4 years we broke up and I haven’t had sex in 3 almost 4 years
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>>24258023
>A drug dealer making 80k a year is MUCH more appealing to most women under 25 than a "nice guy" salaryman making 160k a year.
Drug dealers don't even make half of 80k. Your average "drug dealer" makes $200 per week if they're lucky. It's a completely oversaturated market.
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>>24257951
lol, lmao

Brother I really, really, really want to believe thats true and if it is God bless you and her both with many children and a happy family life. I hope you both make it through the hard times.
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>>24258021
Of course she won't. Because the government will make sure she and her child are fed. If she's black or hispanic or jewish they'll make sure she has a roof over her head and the bills paid. All while she sells out the man who had a baby with her, though often he's a real piece of shit too considering the statistics of him being black.
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>>24257915
>wanting to bag a 8/10 that you will constantly have to defend from other looksmaxxers, occupying a greater share of your spare time as it gets harder to maintain your looks as you age
OR
>punch down a few levels and settle for a 4/10 that will always remain loyal
>freeing up loads of time to develop your interests and personality so that people love you for who you are
the choice is pretty easy for me, have fun in the rat race faggots
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>>24258023
I agree, when I was making 10k a month selling drugs, I had women. When I grew up and moved on after a serious bust. I got into a trade, excelled at it and became ambitious with starting my own company. Women will not even give me the time of day. Yes I got the body of a coke head but have been sober for over 15 years now. Time flies. Women age like milk. Sluts are still easy and basically prostitution lite.
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BAKA why are the mods such terrible people
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>>24258029
Holy butter.



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