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The Milgram experiment shows most normies would shock the shit out of you just because a lab coat told them too.

The Milgram experiment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment found that people were, in general, willing to deliver powerful and potentially lethal electric shocks because an authoritative man in a white lab coat said so. This was despite hearing the person in question screaming, begging to be released, and describing heart troubles from the powerful electric shocks. The screaming began at 150 volts. 65% of people continued all the way to 450 volts. At 330 volts, the participant became despondent and stopped making any sound.

In the original experiment, people could hear the screams. What about when they couldn’t hear or see the man? Basically 100% of people https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/culture-of-shock/ went along with it then. So people feeling disturbed by hearing screams weighs on people’s conscience way more than the abstract knowledge that they’re torturing someone, which basically never weighs on a person’s conscience enough to get them to awkwardly disobey a guy in a lab coat.

Now you might wonder: did the Milgram experiment replicate? A lot of the psychology experiments like the Stanford Prison experiment didn’t. Unfortunately, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment#Replications it replicated https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/amp-64-1-1.pdf repeatedly (though I haven’t seen replication of the 100% statistic).
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>>24258785
Now, some people have been suspicious that people in the experiment really knew what was happening. Often, when questioned after the fact, they gave inconsistent answers. But given how much distress they displayed, https://shs.hal.science/halshs-04728901v1/document it seems very likely that they thought the experiment being genuine was at least a real possibility. So people were willing to seriously risk torturing someone because they were instructed to by authority. Also, the best explanation of the inconsistent results is that people were trying to rationalize bad behavior. You can’t really describe your own behavior as “I tortured someone, because it would have been awkward to stop.” So you have to say you knew it was a ruse.

Some people try to give reasonable explanations of why people acted that way. Rutger Bregman (who is great, in general) in his book Humankind notes that when people were asked why they kept up the shocks, they gave prosocial explanations. One of them explained that he wanted to advance science to help out his daughter who had cerebral palsy. Similarly, many displayed serious distress that they were hurting the man, even as they continued.

I don’t find this a very impressive response. Of course, if you ask people why they did something bad, they will try to give nice-sounding reasons for it. They can’t very well say “I did it because I felt social pressure to continue hurting the screaming man.” The fact that they displayed distress shows just how strongly our moral judgments are influenced by social norms; even when we feel considerable distress, we keep doing the thing we know to be evil. Think about how little moral motivation we have when we don’t feel distress from hearing a tortured man screaming.
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>>24258785
This post is fucking clickbait tier faggotree
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>>24258786
Bregman also noted that people almost all stopped when instructed to do so in an overly bossy way. This is strong evidence for the social norms explanation. If people had moral motivation, the bossiness of the experimenter wouldn’t have affected their behavior more than the screams of the person ostensibly being tortured. In contrast, it isn’t surprising that people care less about impressing the scientist in a lab coat if he behaves boorishly.

The reasonable takeaway from Milgram is that people are willing to do obviously horrible things if told to by someone authoritative, especially when stopping would be very awkward. This is also supported by the rest of the evidence.
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I guess thats how they get drone operators to blow up weddings in Yemen without any pushback
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that front-ass game is bananas
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>>24258785
I would shock this bitch even if no one told me. There's something creepy about her
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>>24258790
yes being able to see butt from the front in between legs is awesome
Thigh gaps are great

Also good camera man and angle
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>>24258785
If you are seen as ‘being in charge’ (as in, pay them or they have other reasons to depend on you) a lot of people will respect you more than they normally would. My statement is pretty obvious and I doubt anyone itt needs that spelled out for them, but your post isn’t really surprising sadly
>t started a business a month ago and am seeing it first hand
Had some awful bosses in the past though. So I try to be as good as I can with all employees
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I guess that explains the behavior of American drone operators in the Middle East
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I dont need an authoritative figure to get me to torture jeets to death
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>>24258789
if 60% of people will shock someone just because they were told to by s lab coat then imagine how much higher the percentage can get and how much more horrible the acts can be with a few weeks of basically brain washing beforehand
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>>24258785
Normies aggressively bully everyone starting from childhood. They choose their friends based on attractiveness and their partners based on social status. Everyone knows they are evil sociopaths.
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>>24258786
>Just following orders
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>>24258795
In the experiment you could hear the person in the other room screaming and begging and saying that they heart hurts so you’d know if it was a woman or non white

Who Was the "Learner" Being Shocked?
To answer your original question directly: the confederate who played the learner was an Irish-American accountant named James McDonough, who posed as a fellow volunteer. Milgram liked him for the part of victim because he was "mild and submissive." His cries of agony were taped and played over a loudspeaker. So the learner was a white male. Race was not a variable studied in the original experiment all roles were filled by white men.
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Who Were the Actual Participants (the "Teachers")?
Participants were 40 males, aged between 20 and 50, whose jobs ranged from unskilled to professional, from the New Haven area. They were paid $4.50 for just turning up. Milgram selected participants by newspaper advertising for male participants to take part in a study of learning at Yale University. Lumen Learning
In all, about 780 people, only about 40 of them women, participated in the experiments across all variations.
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The Milgram experiment is the fakest thing in the history of artifice. Learn instead about Solomon Asch (who was an actual researcher at a real university, and whose experiments were proper experiments) and his discovery that pushing back against an establishment narrative encourages others who might be on the fence but feel alone.
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>>24258800
No women did not shock more than men. The answer is essentially: **they shocked exactly the same amount.**

Women complied fully with the experimenter's commands 65% of the time, a rate identical to that in the comparable condition with men as participants.

The one meaningful difference was emotional, not behavioral. Obedience did not significantly differ, though the women communicated experiencing higher levels of stress. So women felt worse about what they were doing, but did it at the same rate anyway which actually reinforces the post's point that emotional distress doesn't translate into actually stopping.

Modern research confirmed this holds across the board. Neither the sex of the participant issuing the punishment nor the sex of the learner generally changes the rate of obedience.

The only exceptions were edge cases with unusual methodology in one study where a puppy replaced the human learner, female participants showed higher obedience than males, and in another where orders were issued indirectly through an intermediary, women exhibited lower obedience than men. But those are fringe variations, not the standard result.

So the short answer: gender basically doesn't matter. The situational pressure of authority overrides it completely.
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>>24258785
The average person you would describe as a normie, is not normal. The CIA and other intelligence agencies across the globe have been performing psychological operations on people since the 1940s and perhaps even earlier. Everyone is fucking compromised in one way or another unless they live innawoods with their Amish/ Mennonite/ off the grid family, and haven’t been exposed to the fucking tragedy that is modern culture since birth. Normal people do not exist anymore beyond those realms.
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>>24258790
its a brown woman. no one wants to see brown women.
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Yes, remarkably. All 13 of the women who participated in the study obeyed the researcher to the very end. The 6 volunteers who refused to go on to the maximum shock level were all men.

So the women had a 100% compliance rate vs roughly 54% for men in that specific study.

Sheridan and King theorized that perhaps Milgram's participants had merely played along with the experiment because they realized the victim was faking his cries of pain. So they decided to use real electric shocks on a real victim a cute, fluffy puppy. Students acting as the "trainer" were required to train the puppy on a discrimination task by punishing it with increasingly severe and real shocks. Participants could see the dog suffering and hear its yelps and howls. Many tried to gently coax the puppy to escape the shock; others shifted nervously from foot to foot.
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>>24258804
shes Italian you faggot
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>>24258785
>>24258786
>>24258788
We learned this from watching normies attack one another over a disease that none of them could name a single person who died from it in their social circle. All because the TV told them it's what the smart credentialed people said was the right thing to do.
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>>24258805
>So the women had a 100% compliance rate

Women should be wives in the home.

Single women should be put into either breeding or milking programs.
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>>24258791
models are not supposed to smile
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>>24258785
>most normies would shock the shit out of you just because a lab coat told them too.
the phrasing....kek'd irl
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>>24258792
indeed
front-ass is a flawless indicator of having a great ass
>>24258804
>t. beaner larping as natsoc aryan
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>>24258809
What about the fifty percent of men who also went along with it? Public hanging after trial and conviction?

Also should those women be required to wear shock collars that their husbands have the remotes to?
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I would just kill the lab coat nerd instead
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>>24258812
MOOORRR
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>>24258813
>What about the fifty percent of men who also went along with it? Public hanging after trial and conviction?
Trial takes too long.
Put them to work in labor camps.
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>>24258808
yes and they did not wear masks at first because “masks don’t work” according to the tv but turn later the tv said masks work and they then started wearing masks
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>>24258816
with explosive fallout style GPS prison collars ?
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>>24258817
>“masks don’t work” according to the tv but turn later the tv said masks work and they then started wearing masks
The "science" is always changing goyim!
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>>24258817
It's been fucking purged from the internet, but old text books should still discuss how cloth masks made the Spanish Flu worse.
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>>24258787
Shut the fuck up you fucking retarded indian
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>>24258803
yeah but I like to think I have become normal thanks to the internet but maybe I am just lucky to be “neurodivergent “
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>>24258818
>with explosive fallout style GPS prison collars ?
Sure why not.

On a side note, I've found that women LOVE wearing a shock collar when they have a Dom male using it on them.

What can we learn from this?

Probably nothing other than "bitches be wack yo"!
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>>24258801
Why is it fake ? It was repeatedly successfully replicated
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>>24258819
can’t believe fauci admitted it was just so they could save masks for “frontline workers”

You have to be actually retarded to trust the government
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>>24258785
>>24258812
Ugly jew woman.
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>>24258823
how do you prevent them from cutting it off or pulling it away from their neck or putting something like a small towel in between the neck and the collar to prevent the contact points from touching skin?
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>>24258815
( 'o_o)
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>>24258828
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WRONG!
>"Mixon found that obedience rates fell to a very low percentage." - wikipedia
>This was if provided implicit or explicit WORDS articulating risk of injury.
>WORDS.

The big take-away is to verbalize your anxieties. That's why Unite the Right was suppressed. jews know that if people find out in articulable fashion the fact of your misery, they are less likely to cause it. But, sometimes you have to get their attention.

1. get their attention
2. tell them what you allege "I am in pain," "I am in danger of death," "the children of Palestine are suffering from hunger pains," "the children of Iran are being murdered"
3. Get theme to repeat back to you what are the assertions
4. Ask "do you agree"?
5. Then, get them to articulate THE EXACT AUTHORITY which is the source of their disagreement.
6. DO NOT ALLOW "ME" AS THE ANSWER FOR THE EXACT AUTHORITY OF DISAGREEMENT
7. typically, you will need to explain to them that they are accepting a variety of messages from tv, and others "con" (confidence) individuals
8. you will need to explain to them that they are paid by others to convince them of things which may or may not be the truth.
9. Return to the beginning with the initial message
10. Get them to repeat back to you how they understand your view.
11. Ask if they agree/disagree.
12. If they disagree: Get them to repeat what they utilize as THE EXACT AUTHORITY
13. If they agree: Do tell/repeat back for your primer on doubting sources and being a skeptic of mob opinion in matters where the mob is only informed by media (the "mob is just a media xerox")
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>>24258815
I stand up for the rights of whites.
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>>24258828
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fVujTglLgWU
>it[picture of earth from space]’s photoshopped, but it has to be.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yyUrw8TJDHM
>he said and I quote “it’s photoshopped, but it has to be.“
>there ain’t no photographs of earth somebody tell me why
>there ain’t no photographs of earth they’re all just cgi
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>>24258829
muh dick...
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>>24258831
>>24258829
>>24258828
Im white and my right to have a woman with her body shape is not being granted
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>>24258827
>how do you prevent them from cutting it off or pulling it away from their neck or putting something like a small towel in between the neck and the collar to prevent the contact points from touching skin?

The contact points often come with silicone nipples to put over the metal spikes, so they still shock but won't dig into the skin to irritate it.

They voluntarily wear them for me, with a dog tag and their name and address on the tag.

I have even gotten a couple women to let me lead them around in public on a leash, and they have to sit on the floor besides me when I go have a drink or meal. Sometimes restaurants won't allow a human to sit on the floor beside a dinner patron, so I then just tie their leash up to my bumper or some lamppost on the sidewalk and let the woman eat out there.

You'd be surprised how wet that type of Dom/sub stuff makes them. After a day of that, they will beg to just please me.
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>>24258835
>hitching horses bad
>hitching women good
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>>24258834
You're brown, and that's okay, you can move.
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>>24258785
>Open legs to closest assertive man
>Automatically survive and reproduce
>This strategy works for a million years
Yeah shocking this didn't breed a species of brilliant moral philosophers
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>>24258785
Weird ear. 2/10. Wouldn't bang.
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>>24258836
Never thought about doing that at a western hitching rail type town, but most of those towns are based and deep red, so I don't wanna cause a ruckus there.

"We raped the horses, and rode off on the women!"
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>>24258785
Cool. Now do Solomon Asch and Philip Zimbardo while keeping in mind that 54% of American adults read below a sixth grade level. (28% of American adults read below a third grade level.)

Most people are retarded.
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>>24258830
how does that make sense when most people kept shocking after the person being shocked said they were having chest pains and begging them to stop
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>>24258785
they were both adopted to film/movie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experimenter_(film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stanford_Prison_Experiment_(film)

I enjoyed both
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>>24258834
I can't believe it's 2026, and I still have to witness such human rights violations. Stay strong.
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>>24258840
>>24258835
It seems unrealistic because how do you tie a woman to your bumper? Does she just stand right next to your driver side door with her collar tied to the front of your car? I feel like if a police officer drove by he might have questions also what if someone saw you or her and photographed you in public and posted it online
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>>24258785
This is all bullshit. The Milgrim experiments got exposed for the kike practitioners were berating and forcing the participants to administer the shock. They literally influenced their own experience and forced by hand the result they wanted.
Aaaalllll bullshit.
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>>24258834
as a white man, not having this ass on my face is worse than the holocaust, unironically
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>>24258846
what about the minority of people who refused? A non insignificant amount said fuck you and didn’t do the shocks
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>>24258826
You're full ofn shit Moshe
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>>24258847
If it was for 999999 billion years I could definitely see the case for that
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>>24258848
Good for them
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>>24258844
Thank you it really is a travesty but I will hang in there until my rights are fully granted. I know it is happening soon
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>>24258838
you skipped dowries.

https://www.dw.com/en/among-decorated-crickets-males-pay-the-dowry/a-18773279
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>>24258838
but why is this submissiveness and herd mentality more common among certain groups like south East Asians? It’s not just culture is it? What if we institute policies to promote the breeding of schizos and Autistic people
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>>24258853
>mexicans
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>>24258855
We already have the technology of higher iq. Forced marriage and forced monogamy.
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>>24258845
>how do you tie a woman to your bumper?
I just slip the loop end of the leash over a part of the bumper.
Don't overthink it.

She is there of her own volition. If a cop came by, they'd just ask her if she was alright at most, or probably just smile and say "dang that's hot!"
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Thank God pol users would never do that
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>>24258855
>but why is this submissiveness and herd mentality more common among certain groups like south East Asians?
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>>24258858
go away jew

>>24258859
kys whore, then read:
>>24258830
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>>24258849
If this bulbhead was brown she would be somalian: >>24258847
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>>24258847
Roberta is an interesting name for a woman but maybe I just don’t travel enough, shes way too hot to be a transgender
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>>24258861
>go away jew
says the tranny golem
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>>24258785
That's a dude, isn't it.
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>>24258858
Wouldn’t it be more fun for her if it was a chain and a padlock so she was actually stuck? That seems just like telling a woman to put her hands behind her back and hold her wrists together rather then handcuffing her so her wrists are actually stuck together.

I’m guessing she’s fully clothed in public? Do women who are actually hot agree to this stuff or is it only kind of mentally ill ones with issues who are overweight and or kind of old and ugly
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>>24258865
the technology needed to make a man into someone who looks like a woman who is that hot will not exist for a very very very long time if ever
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>>24258865
>hat's a dude, isn't it.
you literally have to check everytime these days.

once their undies are off though, it's always easy to tell then. trick is to not get that far with some freak.
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>>24258785
What are you a racist?
YOU ARE NOT A SCIENTIST
TRUST THE EXPERTS
TRUST THE SCIENCE
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>>24258857
That’s like saying we already have the technology for fixing obesity and its diet and exercise, yes those work IF FOLLOWED but people fail to adhere to it so what technology is like Ozempic that makes it so that people actually remain monogamous? Religion? How do you keep people from being agnostic in the 21st century while also letting them live in a wealthy society
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>>24258785
Covid showed that. They became rabid little fauci floozies
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>>24258864
kike, you can't be use, won't be us. Shouldn't you be destroying desalination plants and flattening apartment buildings?
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>>24258872
i'm having a day off.
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>>24258785
This explains the normies mass hysteria and unflinching obedience of the government during covid. Normies don't have souls.
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>>24258866
>Wouldn’t it be more fun for her if used padlocks, etc.
I do that also of course, such as at night when I "kennel" one in the shed.

>>24258866
>I’m guessing she’s fully clothed in public?
Of course. Sometimes wears something a little revealing, but most aren't "furries" or other mentally ill types. I wouldn't mess with those freaks.

>>24258866
>Do women who are actually hot agree to this stuff or is it only kind of mentally ill ones with issues who are overweight and or kind of old and ugly

All kinds, but I don't date or Dom the uggos or fat ones. Most are average/mid like most people in general, sometimes you come across a really cute one who just likes being extra submissive.
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2/3 of humanity do not have inner speech
2/3 of humanity cannot defy anything that appears to have authority (archon)
2/3 of humanity experience nothing after death and have no NDE
2 divided by 3 is 666

2/3 of humanity are unironically soulless hylic material npc constructs that only exist to perpetuate the loosh prison
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>>24258872
>kike, you can't be use, won't be us.
hello ESL shitskin.
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Why was this thread moved? This is very political!

Ridiculous.
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>>534083967
Do you ever dom two women at the same time in the same room together?
Do you have them wear Chasity belts 24/7 when not with you? Do you make them carry an airtag around so you can track her?
Do you provide food or water in the kennel? What if she has to use the restroom in the middle of the night while you are asleep
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>>24258875
Do you ever dom two women at the same time in the same room together?
Do you have them wear Chasity belts 24/7 when not with you? Do you make them carry an airtag around so you can track her?
Do you provide food or water in the kennel? What if she has to use the restroom in the middle of the night while you are asleep ?
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>>24258895
>Do you ever dom two women at the same time in the same room together?
Never had that luck.

>>24258895
>Do you have them wear Chasity belts 24/7 when not with you?
Gosh no. I don't want to imagine the smell and mess of that. >>24258895
>Do you make them carry an airtag around so you can track her?
Not a bad idea, but just a cellphone that can track.

>>24258895
>Do you provide food or water in the kennel?
Of course, I'm kind unless they misbehave, then I'm still kind but firm.

>>24258895
>What if she has to use the restroom in the middle of the night while you are asleep ?
The door is open, just chained to a stud in shed with a long chain.

I only brought any of this up to show how most women are submissives at heart, and want a strong authority figure to dominate them.

If they don't have a man, they often become either lesbians or political and "OBEY' the government.
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>>24258912
>The door is open, just chained to a stud in shed with a long chain.

How is the stud installed so she can’t pull it out and run off?

>I only brought any of this up to show how most women are submissives at heart, and want a strong authority figure to dominate them.

>If they don't have a man, they often become either lesbians or political and "OBEY' the government.

That makes sense, studies show most women have rape fantasies



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