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When will BTC start going back up? Lots of estimates put BTC at as much as 200k by November, but that window is getting pretty tight and momentum seems to have reversed. I don't know if I should pull out and accept a minor loss just to re-invest after some huge fall and make more money that way, or just keep holding and wait for it to rise. If I pull out now my total loss would be like 2k from a 12k investment. I've been around the block when it comes to trading crypto and I've made plenty of money, but this time feels different so I just wanted to double check with the expert autists. Any thoughts? Thanks.
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>>60868236
>Are we at top of cycle?
Yes
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>>60868236
We have at least two rate cuts in Q4, altcoin ETF deadlines expiring then too, everything should align then
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>>60868236
>BTC at as much as 200k by November
140k at best
and even that is starting to look not so likely
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>>60868243
yep. the eth roon was the final pump. it went from $1500 to $5000 in 5 months.

>>60868337
this asset is becoming very big. it wont grow crazy like in the past indeed. this cycle is done. we hit $124k from $15k low. some altcoins went 10000x (pepe, bonk, kaspa). many went 20x.

my sister finally bought a small amount of bitcoin last month. (top signal) she didn't buy for 7 years.

people at work talked about people making milllions with crypto : signal 2


just look at the long term ethereum chart : signal 3


the 4 year cycle time is as good as passed, only 4 months left.

if you buy now you obviously buy the top of the cycle.

i don't expect bitcoin to dump as hard this bear market, maybe to 80k.
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>>60868236
it really depends
if you sell your BTC
>new ATH hits next week at 135k
if you hold it
>dumps to 95k
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it's over.
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>>60868264
>>60868337
>>60868411
(and everyone else but the post will think that's spam)
Thanks for the advice, gents. I have decided to sell and hope that it keeps going down. I've been pretty bullish on BTC given the recent enormous investments by everyone from billionaires, to investment firms and banks, to country's governments, but it seems like the steam is starting to slow (at least, in the short term). Will let you guys know how it goes in a few weeks/months/ehenever.

Cheers
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>>60868236
>based pepe
>never lost on a single trade
>feels like witchcraft
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>>60868236
BTC is money.
Why would you trade money for government diarrhea paper?
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200k in November? You realize it’s basically September. Jeer you must be out of your mind. Hold your coins. $1m by end of the decade.
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>>60869583
What
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>>60869676
Because I think BTC will temporarily lose more value than the dollar, so I'm hopping off the BTC peg while it falls just to hop back on as it rises.

>>60869703
Sir yes sir
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>>60869583
i too sense this
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>>60868236
no one knows
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>>60868455
no it's not. You are going to miss out on buying A now.
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>>60868236
It's a crapshoot now - one cycle repeated a previous top after November. Another peaked. One was already past peak.

The only upside is that we definitely didn't get the hype wave yet, regardless of what anyone says. Doesn't mean we will actually get it, but crypto isn't all over the news and large cap shitcoins never pumped. Nor did we have any sort of craze - no NFT, AI, DiFi, etc narrative happened.
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>>60868236
>if you sell, when will you buy back in, is there a spefic value. If you are wrong and the price rises, at what point to buy back in, is there a value in this case?
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>>60871148
global liquidity cycles and macro surprises are more important than the halving now, have been since 2023
but keep playing yesterdays game

>>60868236
>pull out and accept a minor loss just to re-invest after some huge fall
you'll do a newton and buy back in at the actual top only to turn very pink thereafter
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>>60871414
Prove it. Yes, there is a correlation between BTC and NASDAQ, yes, it's pretty strong. But it also entirely decouples occasionally. Admit that no one knows shit.
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>>60871434
>BTC and NASDAQ
never said that altho both are correlated to global liquidity of course

as to the proof it, just look to the pa of this 'cycle' itself
dumped on that march banking collapse and then slight up mode as money was printed
then major up move with the announcement of the etfs, after that crab dumping for most of the year with the other leg up on the trump election and then this year dumpage on the tariff wars

meanwhile the halving should have been crab year in 2023, early bull 2024 and mania now
admit it to yourself if the halving still dominated pa then we wouldnt have seen everything from this year
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>>60871463
Nope, I still have no idea what's going on.
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Why is so many people still so optimistic? Just look at chart and you'll see BTC has been following the exact same pattern as last time and it's about to dump just like it did back then.
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>>60868236
I had a dream of going all in on BTC at $84500, having full confidence it was about to pop. I don’t even buy BTC, it’s too boomer for me. Anyways I suggest you wait for that price and go all in, it won’t last long
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>decided to say fuck it, put $35k into IBIT at $112k
>will probably crash to $75k to test me
I’m not selling for 30 years so I don’t give a fuck
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>>60868236
historically, the stock market typically tanks in Sept., and since BTC is following stocks now, i would expect it to tank too
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>>60868236
No, when bitcoin crosses 130k then think about exiting the market.
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>>60868236
I'm still waiting for us to get to 200k minimum, everything seems to be too stable to really go down, even things like note.fun give 50k just for existing, there must be more after all this
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>>60868453
can never support selling BTC except if you're a retard. 1m in 2025, so why would I sell? Just stake on ExSat and find a nice island to go skinny dipping until you retire your bloodline



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