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If I investmaxx and moneymaxx I believe I could reach FIRE in about ~7 years.

Should I pursue this so I could live carefree like a hermit for the rest of my life (I have free housing so my money would probably compound more than i'd waste anyway) or is it better to live like a regular person? Get a car, a proper house and a wife with bunch of kids but probably never have this freedom (or at the age of 60).

I'm 29 years young and pondering.
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>>60870804
You can have a wife and kids and still fire, you just need a like minded wife. It may take 10 or 12 years but can be done.
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>>60870804
FIRE was my backup plan when I still thought i would find love. I failed to find love but i'm now 1-2 years away from quitting the work force permanently. It's a consolation prize for doing everything 'right' but still failing at the most basic of human experiences.
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>>60871128
so out of the 0.001% of women who will marry me i have to find the 0.00001% who dont like spending money?
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>>60871155
How old are you?
If you're about to go fire then why can't you spend that time actively trying to find the best wife you can?
With all that time there is surely someone else out there in a comparable situation
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>>60871166
It's not that rare.
Also, don't be a retard that needs to have a virgin Christian size 2 10/10 blonde.
Women are trainable.
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>>60870804
Better-
Save a fuckload of money to give you freedom, then gradually increase standard of living while continuing to work, also knowing you could do that shit forever if Shekelburg fires you.

Sitting on $100k-$500k won't make you rich, but it will remove the blinders that makes most wagies hyperstressed about losing their job
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>>60871225
Personally my strategy was to buy boobs for a flat chested girl with good face bones
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>>60870804
You should not be wasting money on jewish tricks period, reguardless of this gay ass *FIRE* thing.

Make higher income, FIRE is usally done by people who are overly obsessed with saving and not driving earning potential forward. Or dead end (europoors due to taxes is common reason).

Anyway its kinda too late now, if u didn't make it before 2025, you are basically not going to make it at all.

27, "retired"
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i don't know if you're out of touch or if it's me who has become paranoid. i can't imagine having an outlook where you could wagecuck until 2032
agi may not be coming as soon as the doomers think, but the era of making a shitton of money for doing very little work is gone for most people
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>>60871237
>if u didn't make it before 2025, you are basically not going to make it at all
no need to blackpill, there will be another event followed by gigantic money printing and that will be another moment for a swath of people to make it if they know how to play it

but do agree that fire is retarded, you can stop the cagie but dont stop doing something
start your own business, become your own family fund or become a full time parent to 4 offspring but dont 'retire'
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>>60871225
No they are not trainable they are like dogs in that they have to be trained properly as children or they are not going to change.
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>>60871253
Yes, I don't mean to blackpill, you can defo *make it* though your business ect, thats what I did since 15. But its extremely rare, and outside of the USA its increidbly rare to pull off (to make more than just being a wagie which is way less stressful)

Number one thing I see from people who "wake up" as I like to call it, they immediately dive into FIRE thinking cost cutting is all is to it. Nah, its income, always was, always will be. Everything else is cope. FIRE just ensures these fucking retarded normies don't spend 90% of the paycheque on gacha toys.
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>>60871259
Although loyal and not a whore, unfortunately my wife was also trained to be a cunt from a young age.
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>>60871264
>and outside of the USA its increidbly rare to pull off
its the opposite really, the usa is about the only place left where high tier wagies can actually make real monies, everywhere else wages are absolute dogshit curiously especially high tier professions are retardily underpaid so gaining independence through access to the global internet market is far easier if you live in a low col area

cutting expenses is how i made it with the added notion of investing totally in emerging tech with serious conviction so dont dissuade it, i was inspired by some of the earliest /biz/ stories and it wasnt wrong
and all signs point to another great moment for people to do the same soon

always ignore all the status games normies play, they are destroyed by it themselves
live greatly under your means and use the excess monies to throw into investment or your own business
you dont need to be retarded about it still eat well etc but cut all the conssoooomerism crap and live in a broomcloset that alone is enough, also no new fancy car
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>>60871279
Only reason I made it, was cause my business was online and I started 2014, regulations and all that bullshit was light (or easy to ignore) here in the UK. Now its tottaly diffrent, the envioment is extremely overbearing, left, right center goverment down your back. Taxes are very high here also, which is leading me to basically windup/sellup because I'm giving nearly 50% of my profits to goverment via tax/sale taxes. Its insane. This is why I am blackpilled.

I have deep 7 fig numbers, so I can tie up out of here. But the shit is insane, idk how anybody earning 5-10k a month will ever make it todays world, impossible IMO with where things are heading.
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>>60871291
>here in the UK
my condolences, yes that island prison is about the worst place to be at
on the continent however its easier then ever to start an online business nowadays with all the regs being formalized
you can also hoard your profits into the corporation at only corp taxrate if you can combine that with no rent living with extended family you got a pretty good chance even today
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>>60871324
Yes, I'm surprised I made it in this hell hole. I think in USA there is still a chance to make it for the younger ones. But here in UK, impossible with the wages as u pointed out. Insane.
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>>60871264
Shut the fuck up, zoomie. You know jackshit about europe or "making it".
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>>60871473
Except I have over 2m network in the UK?

I operate a worldwide business, I know more than your broke ass.
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>>60871549
I can kill you in over 300 ways, bitch.
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>>60871549
are you into physical product or services actually
cause for physical product interesting in what you can share over how to deal with the uks retardation regarding cross borders shipping
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>>60870804
I mean you can still pump some whore full of kids when you are 40 as a man, so time is on your side. Making it before having kids is much easier than vice versa. If you fail, youre still loaded. If you have kids and fail, youre broke and locked down.
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>>60870804
>If I investmaxx and moneymaxx

Doesn't work. Everyone I know that tried this is back working in 5 years or less.

You need multiple sources of income. You need to stay tied to the cost of living. You need to take the parasite pill. Rentals, storage sheds, pay day loan places, Western Unions, gas stations, goyslop franchises, ect. Stuff like that.

And the shit part is that none of these are truly passive. There is always something dragging you back no matter how good your managers are. I am functionally "retired" and haven't wage slaved in 10 years, yet Im still averaging 30 hours a week dealing with my "passive" income sources.
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>>60871549
>I operate a worldwide business
your butthole
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>>60871629
Yes you can, just make sure its not during your work hours, wagie.



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