Is going into the medicine the only sure way to get a good salary anymore? All other high paying professional careers seem over-saturated or require you climbing the corporate ladder which is highly competitive and full of nepotism.
>>60905675Just get a math phd. At worst you'll make $300k/yr and at best $100m/yr.
>>60905675yes medicine is the best and the status with being a surgeon or Dr is super high.
>>60905675i don't think it's "sure", but it's reasonably good. there's a lot of downsides - brutal education, debt, hours. then you might hate it when you start the job because you probably won't know what it's actually like to work the job until you start, which is already after years of education and amassing debt. also AI gives better medical advice than docs and it's for free, the only thing a doc is needed for is signing a prescription and stuff like surgery. eventually there WILL be surgeon bots. but that might take awhile.
>>60905688anything below $500k is shit
>>60905708Just be decent at math then and do some decent research. Doesn't have to be groundbreaking or kino or anything.
>>60905675In the US maybe. In bongland you'll earn less than an estate agent.
>>60905675Too much work. It's slavery
I’m a doctor and i’m not complaining. I can take time off whenever i want, like seriously three months off almost whenever i feel like it. I can work part-time if i want. I make so much money i can easily afford unpaid leave. If i wanted, i could work like a madman and FIRE in five years, but i think retiring is for losers. If i wanted, i could work 25% and seriously invest in some hobby. I get pussy from hot women because women see being doctor as the ultimate status symbol (and know that you were smart enough to be able to pick the best possible profession for our current era). And if i want to shred all taints of chudness, i can become a true messias doctor like oncologist or neurosurgeon and just truly help people every day. It’s great as long as you’re not some pussy who bitches about going trough medschool.
>>60905675You have to be one of the biggest nerd to be a doctor and surgeon is very dangerous if you fuck up something you are going to jail
>>60905705>AI gives better medical advice than docsOnly retards who have no actual idea of doctor work think this.>>60905750Pays amazing in my euro country (compared to the average local wages).
>>60905675I know a guy who is a surgeon. $600k sounds cool until you grey at 35 looking like the crypt keeper working 80 hour weeks because your peer shanaquisha decided to make yet another niglet and is taking a month off. The motherfucker spends more time sleeping at the hospital than in his million dollar home.
>>60905800Maybe he enjoys saving other peoples lives and health. There are over 50 different specialities, nobody is forcing you to become a surgeon.
>>60905809Nobody is saying surgeon isn't an honorable job but let's be honest OP and most anons are off limits for such jobs
>>60905809Like would you trust OP and anons with your life?Lol come on
>>60905794AIs in current state, depending on quality of the question, give better advice than your lower 2 quartile MDs (jeets/blacks). Even critical care. Think of the state of AI in 5+years. t. critical care RN (Retard who kNows)
>>60905809Oh yeah, he obviously saves lives and I'm sure feels a good amount of pride from it. However, I'm sure that the gray comes from having lost a couple. I'm mad when I fuck up a lead, but losing a life would keep me up at night. I think every specialty suffers from the same problem.
air traffic control is a decent option if you can get into an en route facility instead of a towerbeing a pilot would be better but it takes years of flying for shitty small regional airlines before you can get hired at a major and get your own route with decent work hours
I know a doctor who married and impregnated a chubby 5/10 girl. Why would someone who grinded his ass off for a decade and finally entered upper echelon of social status not marry a smoking hot woman?
>>60906264A months supply of ozempic costs less than 200 bucks
>>60905696status to other working class people dont matter.
>>60905791Yeah doctors are losers. Go book a meeting with 10 different doctors and you will know.
>>60906264Imagine marrying a porn movie. You can’t just turn the woman off after you’ve put your spunk in her, you have to lay down with her and spend a lot of your time with her. That’s why personality matters more. You _actually_ get redpilled on a lot of stuff once you become very high status. Not the /pol/-version of ”getting redpilled”. You realise how overvalued looks are by modern young men due to influence of porn, for example.>>60905895It’s funny how you nurses always want to downplay the importance of doctors. Must be some ego thing.
>>60906144Eh, it’s hard to explain but the feeling that comes from saving/changing someone’s life is the greatest feeling ever. It feels even better than earning a lot of money unless you are genuinely mentally ill. That feeling makes the feelings you get from fucking up worth it too.
>>60906305Hot women are usually average social class too.
>>60906384This isnt true at all. Like at all. Majority of girls are stuck working and in debt too. In the 1%, 0.7% are men and 0.3% are foids.
>>60906264same, I have a friend who just finished his residency this year and is finally making the big doctor bucks as an anesthesiologist and he's about to get married to his 5/10 mexican gfto be fair he's a short king but man he could definitely do better
>>60906351I’m only engaging you here because I smirked and slightly exhaled through my nostrils IRL at the irony of that statement. lolPretty sure in the first world (not where you’re from obviously) they even teach MDs in med school to be cocky fucks so they’re not second-guessing themselves in front of patients etc. Makes sense and kind of explains a lot. I do hope you have a fulfilling job annd specialty and aren’t a miserable fuck every day of your life though. Fr
>>60905788A doctor is an information store aka relational database.. surgeries are already done by robots and will be 100% done by robotics in the future also there will be some smart contract process for prescriptions. Doctor not needed. The only thinkg left you could provide is human to human emotional support or something.
>>60906508>>60906508The anon youre replying to is a pathetic loser. kek
>>60906390What the fuck are you babbling about? Yeah you just agreed with me, almost all hot women aren’t high social class.>>60906508Well yeah doctor’s have big egos too. What made you think i’m not first world? I already said i’m from europe. But you’d be suprised at the amount of patients that want the doctor to be some all knowing authority, instead of a genuine human being weighting different options. People with very low self-esteem want to see doctors as some god figures that they can believe to take care of them (instead of themselfsrr taking care of themself) no matter what. That’s why they push doctors towards being confident in the training.
>>60906527That’s such a retarded view of what doctors do. A majority of our work is actually examining the patient, something ai can’t do. Also it simply isn’t capable of connecting the information on the scale that is needed. It can’t for example take into account that the patient might be lying or remember things wrong.
>>60906559idk. everyone is typing long ass replies and looks similar. i will be leaving this thread.
>>60906567Copium addict.
>>60905675I studied a bachelors in math and became an actuary. It’s turbo comfy in the US. I make 185k base and 20% target bonus. If I tried harder for a promotion I could easily get paid in stock too. I work maybe 20 hrs a week of low stress work, maxing out at 25. The work is generally secure and recession proof as well. The barrier to entry is the exam process which is basically just a brainlet/effortlet filter that many people can’t pass for some reason. Overall I highly recommend it. It would be very easy for me to even work part time doing something else if I wanted to given how little work I have. Or, to manage investment rental properties which im currently looking in to.
>>60906604>became an actuaryHow did you study for your exams? I wwlent back to get statistics and we finished around ANOVA and F-tests and R squared.I kept going and am doing multivariate probability and studying conditional and marginal probability, what else do I need to do?
>>60906567doctors just follow hospital/medical group protocol now or get fired
avoid hospitals and doctors at all costs except like if you need an MRI, x-ray or anti-biotic. but just use them to get data for you (doc take a x-ray of my ankle from this potential sports injurty) then you do the analysis yourself
but ya, money and top pussy is still best for doctors ; as long as you werent some flunky in med school
AI will outmode it.
>>60906264Maybe she makes him happy [spoiler]and fatties have a je ne sais quoi all their own[/spoiler]
>>60906798It’s really a sad state in healthcare. Insurance is a scam, insurance companies have way too much power to direct the care of individuals, senior hospital admin are all flaming absolute faggot retards who literally endanger patients with their bullshit. The good and competent docs get fucked over and ostracized if they buck the medical establishment and prevent those shekels from generating enough shareholder profit. Good luck paying back your $250K (minimum) med school debt after that. I’ve seen some utterly unconscionable shit happen in modern clown healthcare. Not sure if there’s really any way to fix it other than nukes.
>>60906848Oh and on top of that, didn’t they just lift the requirement for foreign trained doctors to complete an American residency before practicing? Someone please tell me I’m mistaken because if that’s true we all better hope we never get sick again. God help you if you have to get admitted into the hospital NOW. Imagine once the effects of this kick in and you have jeets with bribery degrees doing emergency SAARgery on the wrong system.
>>60905675>>60905696In short, no. Medicine is basically the STEM of today - on paper the jobs look good but by the time any of you get a degree and join that market it'll be way past gone. Really, if you've been to the doctor any time in the last 10-15 years you know that its already gone - a lot of hospitals and clinics are basically just immigrant mystery meat markets run by Indian and Chinese doctors. By the time you guys get in, they won't even have those, it'll just be Venezuelan feminists and re-badged LPNs.
>>60905675>high paying >600k a year>500k of school debt and at least a decade of your best years goneI make more than that as a mid level Coinbase manager and I barely got a bachelor's
>>60906685literally the most difficult hand calculation you will need to do is calculus based probability, in particular joint probabilities. To get started with the lower level exams, practice upper university level probability courses and reading word problems and translating them into joint probability integration problems to solve. Aside from that brush up on interest rate theory and annuities and you can get your foot in the door very easily. For the US SOA exams there are also exam prep services that are decent and comprehensive such as Coaching Actuaries or ACTEX study guides.
>>60905794>Only retards who have no actual idea of doctor work think this.Oh please tell us all about doctor work, I genuinely want to hear the rebuttal.
>>60905675> £30k in the UK working nights and weekends> Hostile workplace where nurses, PAs and domestics fucking hate you and are encouraged to do so.> Training numbers so fucked by fraudulent indian doctor flood that half of all residents dont get a job post F2> Dating options are some ugly neurotic female doctor who will never take your name and will begrudgingly have one kid at 40 then go back to work full time because god knows you need the money for childcare (enjoy your minimum legal paternity leave as well)> constant elearning on diversityI outright hate being a UK doctor. I'm actually just taking time off to plan a move abroad.
>>60905794>Only retards who have no actual idea of doctor work think this.Overall, doctors are quite stupid. At least in the US they are selected for being able to memorize textbook information and regurgitate it on tests, it often seems like most doctors don't enjoy treating patients or even doing their job, they're just there for the money and don't mind push experimental gene therapies and transsexual surgeries onto the public if it gives them good goy points. The only reason they make so much money is because the supply of doctors is artificially restricted by the medical board as there can only be so many graduates per year. If that cap were lifted then way more people could do medical school and become a doctor, and their salaries would go down to something reasonable befitting of someone who just memorizes facts and pushes big pharma scams onto unsuspecting retards. It would go a long way towards fixing the healthcare system in this country desu, the other part would be luigi'ing the rest of the health insurance company executives in Minecraft.
>>60907382Stop, you're going to damage his pride and shatter the facade of the medical profession. They're all spineless cowards because you know what happens to the actual good doctors? They get kicked out because they dare to follow the scientific method and not just be disgusting shills for multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical companies and corrupt bureaucracies.
>>60906883Cheap jet diploma mills and AI are going to destroy the profession.
>>60906906>bro everything is going to shit so you shouldn't try anythingA surefire mentality to become a sreeching schizo loser who spends all his time on 4chan. I wasn't sure how the profession was going to go when i joined medschool in 2014. I just knew that the pay and work demand were good then. Turns out, there are going to be more old people for the next 30 years at least (coupled with all the immigrants and mentally unwell young people) so the demand is just rising. As i already said the AI doomerism is stupid also, there are so many people to treat that AI will just help us be able to treat more people. The moment it can do everything doctors do, there will no jobs for anyone. I mean mostly examining the patients and gathering information and connecting it in a way that a machine can't.>>60907382Yeah i agree there are doctors who are in it just for the money and don't care about patients. But look where you are, do you seriously think that 4channers care about helping other people? I was suprised myself about how good it felt to help other people. Our society is so geared towards just becoming most high status and getting the best pussy that nobody talks about that shit. Can't really complain about people being pushed towards just caring about themself in this culture.But i already explained in this post how little the memorisation of what pill goes to what disease is of the job. Many doctors do already outsource that part to machines, me included. The cap on graduates is a tricky one because it also takes a lot of money and resources to have medical schools who give quality education. Resources that we simply don't have. So in the cap was lifted, the quality of doctors would lessen a lot and i don't think that people want that.>>60907518Lmao nobody gets kicked out for following the scientific method. As long as you can professionally explain why you treat patients the way you do, you're good.
>>60907612>As long as you can professionally explain why you treat patients the way you do, you're good.Lmao tell that to all the doctors who lost their license for not following the anointed protocol for treating COVID-19. Medical boards are all bought and paid for.
>>60906224What’s so bad about the tower
>>60905675i dropped out of med school because i hated it. you need to be a massive wagecuck to get through the whole rigamarole of med school and residency/fellowship.
>>60907535If you look back to even how things were in the 90s vs today, it’s already over. Imagine how much worse it’s going to get as the boomers start getting sick and dying. Poetic justice
>>60908186What's the poetic justice in boomers ruining the economy and leaving a worse medical system for everyone else?
>>60907612You're seriously overvaluing the whole "we're needed because patients need a human connection" trope, the fact is that human connection can be supplied by someone much cheaper than a doctor. Especially as AI continues to improve in accuracy and reliability, it will become the status quo for normies to just check the AI and they will trust it implicitly as it's what everybody does for better or for worse. In any case, while the long term outlook is not good IMO, there still will be doctors but as you say they will be machine assisted and will be managing 10x to 100x the number of patients each, so naturally there would be 10x to 100x less doctors needed. Nursing will unironically be more valuable or at least valuable for longer because of the physical labor aspect but I imagine nurses will also absorb the function of muh human connection and muh bedside manner blah blah blah as the number of doctors dramatically decrease and the ones left become essentially AI assisted managers overseeing 1000s of patients for way less money than currently. Also I don't think quality of medical education would necessarily decrease if the cap were lifted. Med schools would make more money from fleecing more students and reinvest it as needed to keep quality at parity, likely would still make more money than before as they already have the infrastructure and whatnot. New medical schools would also open to accommodate the demand and make money. I'm glad you madeit as a doc while there was still time but desu the writing is on the wall. For me too as an engineer, AI is a gamechanger even if it isn't a perfect replacement as of yet.
>>60906351You must be some faggot ass Indian who works med surg and thinks he’s hot shit. You should kill yourself, you’re literally a Jewish pawn with no true autonomy. Literally following guidelines established by the (((AHA))) and every other corrupt organization since the Flexner Report. 98% of MD’s are captive to the narrative of their education. The narrative of their education is shaped by money primarily through big-pharma. And generally speaking, people aren't taught how to question the status quo. This means you can have the medical field filled with well-intentioned individuals but if they can't think outside the narrative of their education, they are just a tool of it(that’s you, faggot). Most doctors aren't in research either. They are entirely dependent on the systems they trust. And if there isn't a clear path to profit, new and "alternative care" methods are immediately shelved, regardless of their potential benefits.>t. Decade+ experience CVICU RN where I ran circles around most of the doctors. I left the field after realizing how truly fucked up things are doing deep research regarding the establishment of the medical industrial complex. You have no idea the level of corruption involved. (it’s everything, not just medicine). Hippocratic oath and all.. Anyway, kys you pompous Jeet/jew
>>60906567>look at progress note from doc>literally copied pasted from previous day with minor edits>”Patient AAOx3”theyre fucking intubated >”30 minutes was spent at bedside evaluating patient” for billing purposes. actual time spent, 3 minutes. and spoonfed the information by me. Ignorance is bliss but you’ll pay in due time, this life or next.
>>60908765>be nurse> cant pass basic science education need watered down educaiton > Have bright idea that Nursing is real medicine and doctors only push medicines> Log rolls all day and no changes in patient> Doesnt understand scientfic method and thinks covid is a hoax and mrna is devil juice> In a support profession that relies on doctors to prescribe medicine and provide surgeriesnothing to see here , typical nurse probably in the pocket of big essential oils
>>60908832Nurses are retarded but his criticism of doctors still stands desu.
>>60908765Absolutely based and accurate take about most of these arrogant jeet internists. Even higher specialist jeets are constantly fucking up and being general pieces of shit. Also accurate about the AHA, I worked as a chest pain program mgr for a while and the absolute retardation of these supposed “specialists” is eye opening reading through their notes. They can’t even correctly follow the fucking algorithms much less think independently and critically. If I were having a STEMI and they brought me to a jeet or black cardiologist, I’d just ride it out and take the myocardial hit vs letting some shit monkey perforate my vessels with the wrong wires and wrong sized balloons. Laypeople would be shocked at how often this happens, for some reason it happens way less with the Asians/hispanics/whites, huh go figure. t. Fellow 10+yr CVICU RN
>>60905688This can't be real I thought they just become academics that make pennies
>>60908832I’ll be the first to admit that there are plenty of retard RNs out there too. Most people don’t go through an RN program for the “money” (low-mid at best), the ones that do are genuinely stupid and wash out pretty quick. So at least you can assume that most RNs enjoy helping people
>>60908917Depends on the kind of math.>abstract algebra, topology, esoteric number theoryHave fun being poor.>analysis, differential geometry, mathematical physics, cryptographyMid tier, can at least be a engineer or some sort of research scientist in industry.>probability and statistics, stochastic calculus, optimization, machine learning theory and AIGod tier. Banks, hedge funds, tech companies and such just throw money at you to solve their problems for them.
>>60905675medical field has this big problem at the moment where there is a critical shortage of doctors but they're also being laughably restrictive on "class" sizing so good luck. also you'll never have a "good salary" when you work for someone else
>>60908726>managers overseeing 1000s of patientsBro you have no idea what you are talking about. How is one doctor supposed to examine thousands of patients?For the med school thing, med schools are a huge investment. You also simply need human capital to become teachers, you need patients to act as teaching patients ect. And there aren't that many doctors who are willing to become teacher doctors. These things don't just simply exist, there is a cap on resources that money can't just magically raise. That's why new med schools don't rise easily, otherwise they would already have risen. Also there is a cap on how many students a med school can hold because of before mentioned things, they can't just take in endless amount of people, they will run out of space at the lectures lol. >>60908726>>60908912I already said i'm european lmao, why do you guys keep assuming that i'm not white because i say something you don't like? And as i said, it's funny how you nurses are the definitin of dunning-kruger midwits, thinking you have it figured out while you have no idea actually. The science is there, you can go disprove it with scientific method if you think that "all medicine is a corrupt scam." Yeah there will always be some corruption but things get disproven and replaces with new information all the time. If you guys are so smart, why did you become nurses instead of doctors?
>>60908851no it doesnt. by the time the average doctor has finished training they have seen and treated more patients than the average nurse will see in their entire career. EBM for the most part standardized evidence in support of first line therapies, doesnt mean you have to stick to that . Look at the sunshine act , your average doctor aint getting paid shit by big pharma. There are maladaptive incentives in the system, but that is not some conspiracy. >>60908912> thinks hanging a few pressors makes him an interventional cardiologistgo back to managing the rectal tubes and let the actual adults manage patients. No wonder most Nurses dont understand basic concepts
>>60908956Yeah, fuck that shit, I'll stick to software.>Most software engis get by with just a bachelor's>During boom times, high mobility and relatively liquid jobs, find something good then hunker down during bear times>Even in lower paying jobs still make more than the Minimum Entry to Decent Pussy salary level (150k+)>Due to blameless philosophy, breaking prod doesn't even matter anymore and you can do it multiple times and your name won't even show up in the reports>Flexible hours, usually WFHMeanwhile doctors have to go half a million into debt, sell their asshole to the hospital for the first few years, and if you leave a forecep or a sponge in a few grandmas on a couple of off days in your decade+ career you can lose your job/license at best and get tried for negligent homicide at worst.NO THANK YOU
>>60908955very nice. If I stick with math I'm considering either cryptography or probability/statistics
>>60908966>Bro you have no idea what you are talking about. How is one doctor supposed to examine thousands of patients?It's like you didn’t even understand what I'm talking about. Arguably doctors already don't have to examine patients themselves, nurses can and do do that. It will be even more the case in the future. The fact you don't understand this sort of confirms my view of doctors being midwits who can't reason properly desu.>For the med school thing, med schools are a huge investment. You also simply need human capital to become teachers, you need patients to act as teaching patients ect. And there aren't that many doctors who are willing to become teacher doctors.Apparently you aren't aware that lecture halls can fit hundreds of people and even thousands of people could be enrolled in a course if remote learning is an option. Number of teachers does not need to scale with number of students.>These things don't just simply exist, there is a cap on resources that money can't just magically raise. That's why new med schools don't rise easily, otherwise they would already have risen. They haven't risen because the system won't accommodate more doctors via the cap. No cap means they can take on more students, means they make more money, means they can expand their infra to accommodate them plus make more profit.>Also there is a cap on how many students a med school can hold because of before mentioned things, they can't just take in endless amount of people, they will run out of space at the lectures lol.See above. Remote learning where you can just log into yur uni account and watch the lectures is normalized now.Again, you need to think outside of your box. Most doctors really suck at this for some fucking reason.
>>60908966>If you guys are so smart, why did you become nurses instead of doctors?I said I'm a engineer, dumbass. Apparently doctors also suck at reading. Automating your job should be a piece of cake, maybe I should start a company.
>>60908986You don’t get a quarter of the respect you think you do. Real good Doctors have humility and humanity which you obviously lack. Even retarded bumpkins now are figuring out to avoid you fucks like the plague. Do you practice preventative medicine WITH your patients? (not on them arrogant faggot) If so I do actually respect that. People are on to how hopelessly corrupt and evil the whole extractive medical industrial complex is.
>>60908986Btw I KNOW I get no respect at my job lmao. I’m used to it. In contrast to you, which I find pretty funny.
>>60909035I wasn't talking to you but to the nurses lmao>>60909022The nurses just aren't as good at examing patients as doctors. I know from my profession. They miss some pretty grave points all the time. It's funny how people want doctors to be midwits for some reason, maybe because they just can't admit that some people were smarter than them and choose a better paying profession. Academics scale with iq and doctors have one of the highest iqs of academics (higher than engineers according to studies).And you aren't thinking outside the box, you're trying to offer super simple solutions to a subject you still have no experience or knowledge of. You seriously think all of this hasn't already been thought of? Lectures are just a small part of the education. A lot of it is learning practical skills and getting experience from patients. You can't just get more patients with money, there is a finite number of them. Same with doctors who are willing to be teachers (in practical teaching, not lectures). Nobody will build new hospitals just for med students. The whole subject is a lot more complex than you think.
>>60909172I’m not even mad at your suggestion that the only reason people become nurses because they’re not “”smart”” enough to become doctors. That’s par for the course for you guys. It’s mostly IMO a lifestyle preference. I did music and threw EDM and hippie parties all through my twenties while doing premed. I worked at a very busy L1 trauma hospital, and the one thing I noticed was that basically every MD outside of the giga-established 65+ year-old hyperspecialists/surgeons are absolutely fucking miserable. That plus the hyper-competitiveness with every Asian with abusive parents, and the 250k minimum school debt. For a low tier school. All that and the juice didn’t really seem worth the squeeze. I don’t have some psychotic need to be “respected” or “rich”. I like talking to and helping people, so nursing fits that just fine. I’ll never be out of work, unless voluntarily. Quality of life is also voluntary. Currently I WFH but if I wanted to take call and burn out I can go work in an OR or cath lab. AI is going to replace us much later than your typical jeet MD. Hyperspecialists and surgeons have a little more time maybe.
>>60909055i dont give a shit about respect. I treat my patients like i would treat my family members. Respect is earned, you dont deserve resepect because you believe all black interventional cardiologists are subpar to other races, not because you are a nurse. People are free to avoid physicians, are free to do what they want. I dont care. I cant help people who dont want help, so if you want to believe conspiracy theories and parrot some big pharma nonsense while unironically earning income from hospitals based on that exact industry is the height of retardation and hypocrisy. so you can continue to act like you know better than physicians, but even you know you are a phoney and a wannabe.
>>60909319Thanks for confirming my suspicions. My experience is what it is and I’ve seen what I’ve seen. Anyone would come to the same conclusions if they had my experience. I review a very high volume of cases. I can’t help my ability to notice patterns. I’d hope you have that ability yourself. I didn’t say ALL black or jeet cards suck. As you should be aware it’s a bell curve (shifted left in your case)
>>60909172>I wasn't talking to you but to the nurses lmaoYou quoted me, retard. The rest of your post is cope and not even engaging with the argument which was a 10x to 100x decrease in the need for doctors. If you ever vaxxed one of your patients then you failed the reasoning test.
>>60909371You assume that we have enough doctors now, but there are so many people in need of help that there could be a lot mote of them. You continue to have no idea what you are talking about while calling others midwits lmao.
>>60909367>muh experience confirms my racist suspicious > muh racist intuition surely cant be wrong, and is as good as lol review cases* . review is performed by an equal in experience and education not some racist schmuck off the street. Sounds like you are a bureaucratic leach with little education and limited experience. I bet you wouldnt be able to identify basic anatomy on aortograms. you are the reason this great country is failing, because people think their google searches and tangential experiences makes them experts. Lel. I hope you openly talk about your theories and experience at the workplace.
>>60905675Not accurate for most doctors. I don’t know anything about this area though. Maybe they’re desperate for a doctor?>>60905688Also not true. You’d get 150k most likely and 300k would be if you work for some startup in a high position.
>>60909391>You assume that we have enough doctors now, but there are so many people in need of help that there could be a lot mote of them.You're very adamant in not understanding that doctors are not needed for those functions you claim are necessary. A janitor could give bedside comfort, a nurse with optional AI assistance could do examinations just fine and cheaper. AI in general scales up how many patients a single doctor could administer. Money indeed begets growth for businesses including educational institutions (this is /biz/ after all, you should understand basic econ). You appear incapable of grasping simple logic and extrapolating trends, peak midwit behavior. Also you almost certainly vaxxed a bunch of people so I wonder how much blood is on your hands desu. You can keep posturing as being heckin "intelligent" and muh helping people but we all know the score based on your posts ITT.
>>60905675>muh $600k a year1 >its more like $200k-$300k anywhere that isn't a frozen shithole from what I've heard. And good luck hiding any of that income as a doctor. The IRS is going to be your best friend. 2>med school is probably $1mil. Even more if you had to take out loans. 3>opportunity costs are real. I know doctors that didn't start getting those big checks till they were like 40 years old. Most non-retards have a house and a healthy 401k before these guys even graduate. 4>you have to be broke through your 20s and 30s. Falls under opportunity costs, but man I cannot imagine being broke for that long. Sure most doctors have rich parents but still. Its gotta be rough. 5>you have to be a fucking doctor and touch sick people all day
>>60909832You just keep the comedy going. You do realize that your differentiation (which I can do but don’t have shit to prove to morons on an Indian shitcoin advertisement board) is something that AI can do RIGHT NOW? I know what I’ll be doing when my job is deprecated. Do you?
>>60910223The only thing that is a comedy is you and your " review" and your point of view that your "experience" and "pattern recognition" is anything more than a feeble minded attempt at modern day phrenology. You dont have anything to prove because you are cant prove anything besides your own racism and stupidity. you are incapable of proving anything through education or reasoning given your poor grasp of medicine, statistics, physiology,biochemistry, and anatomy. The ramblings of a racist nurse do not impact me, patient come to me for me to use my training, my hands , and skills to heal them. My waiting room is always full and is booked out for the next 3 months, you can go get an appointment if you want an opinion, although your racism seems terminal and to be negatively impacting your reasoning abilities.
>>60908912Yeah man, shits grim. I’d never step foot into a hospital unless it’s for a stroke or an MI. And I’d have my wife who’s also in the field making sure they don’t do any stupid or unnecessary bullshit.
>>60908832I never said anything about nursing being “real medicine”. 90+% percent of nurses are absolute fucking idiots that I wouldn’t trust. I worked at one of the top CVICU floors in the nation in terms of acuity and case volume. 120+ nurses staff just the floor, and I can count on one hand the ones id trust if I ever needed open heart surgery. >big essential oilsYeah, ancestral medicine (herbs/roots not “essential oils” btw, you stupid fuck) that people have used for thousands of years before Rockefeller and Jewry are so profitable. Oh wait, they can’t patent or profit off them because everyone can grow them and make their own tinctures. Also, must be a coincidence naturopathy and holistic fields were crushed in the early 1900s as a result of the capture of Medicine. Everyone is so much healthier these days with chronic illness. Make sure you keep taking your vaccines and don’t forget your sunscreen you ignorant nigger. Could easily become an NP or MD, but I have a conscience and morals. Keep prescribing those statins you knuckle dragging faggot. >thinks COVID is a hoax and mRNA is devil juice. It wasn’t a hoax. Shit was weird, took care of patients of VV ecmo, the ones that died. They all had comorbidities and an endless list of chronic illnesses. Healthy people I never seen critically ill from it. I say strange because of the clotting issues they all had that was atypical before we realized it was vascular. And the amount of sedation these mother fuckers were on was like nothing I ever seen (opiate/benzo naive patients too). The vaccine has done incalculable damage that we haven’t even seen the full effect of yet. Last (you) from me, solid bait 8/10
>>60910466> claims 90% of nurses are idiots> Yet is a nurse> Worked at "Top" institution yet claims essential oils cure> Doesnt understand patent law or how old medications and drugs can have patents extended or expanded> Claims could easily become NP or MD, doesnt have understanding of basic science or statistics> Saw people die of covid, yet claims the vaccine will do incalculable damage Sir this is not a medical opionion, it is the opnion of an internet user, but you should seek mental health counseling and possibly get a better education. because you are spewing conspiracy theories without any evidence, and regurgigating nonsense without any understanding of basic science or even math. Makes me really question the "top" nursing qualifications you claim to have lol. Now go back to miasma;s, homeopathy, and chiropracty when you have any illness or need trauma surgery. You are a clear example of why nurses need better education and higher standards, i feel sorry for your profession.
Saar I get the pussay saar I am doctor ok not dhalit too of class Pfizer approved good morning
>>60905688I know two different guys with math PhDs who make nowhere close to that. One couldn't find a job and became a carpenter. The other talked his way into a engineering job. I think you're full of shit.
>>60910491I’m sure your standards are super high Dr Mutumbo. Good night, try not to kill anyone else.
>>60910544This is literally American medicine in 5 years if they remove residency requirements.
>>60910552Wasn't trying to be but it is true it isn't entirely true, I went off my anecdotal experiences rather than hard stats and I apologize. I think >>60908955 is mostly accurate. I think it's like:Level 1: $100kMiddle: $150K-300KTop: $300k-$100m
>>60909319Ok Miriam
>>60910572go back to sucking on the tit of the medical industry while not providing any real value and having no real expertise. I would tell you to not kill any patient's but luckily you cant practice medicine, but im sure other people have found people dead that you documented hours earlier as being alert and oriented. I would step away from medical professions if you have such a hatred for other races. Perhaps politics or janitorial work would be more up your innate skill set.>>60910718This is what nurse practitioners are already.
>>60909973>a nurse with optional AI assistance could do examinations just fineLmao mo they couldn’t as i already ssid, and your whole argument falls apart here.>Money indeed begets growth for businesses including educational institutionsThis is a huge overgeneralisation, like all economics, and i already explained why simply throwing more money in it doesn’t work.
>>60910466The fact that you talk about vaccine doing incalculable damage without any proof already tells what a pop schizo you are. Patients who have started having all kinds of weird symptoms (like heart problems) after having covid is a common patient group. But i haven’t had a single patient who got weird problems after taking the vaccine. You can easily tell the problems were because of covid because they started right after the sickness. But none that started right after taking the vaccine.
>>60905675I'd rather go see an AI than a fucking doctor. And I'm not alone. This job will be a dead end sooner than later. And good ridance.
>>60911187>t. A very well of person who has no actual need of seeing a doctor in the first placeThinking doctors will be replaced by ai soon is a hilarious way of missing out on one of the most high paying professions there is
