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Is dollar losing value intentionally or unintentionally?
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>>60916572
intentionally. Good for export from the US.
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>>60916572
It's the best way to make Americans 10% poorer while making them feel like they're winning. Lines go up and shiet.
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>>60916572
once you grow up you realize it doesn't matter if something is done intentionally or not
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>>60916572
I don't think Trump is being retarded on purpose, so I would go with unintentionally.
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>>60916622
>you realize it doesn't matter if something is done intentionally or not
This. Learn to look at the effect not the cause
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>>60916572
>Is dollar losing value intentionally or unintentionally?
Putin advisor recently said that the US is going all in on crypto right now because they’re planning to move everything to stablecoins, devalue the dollar, and pay off debt. Liberals say this is Russian propaganda, but I think it’s a pretty high IQ move: push CBDCs under the disguise of “transparent” stablecoins, crash the dollar, eliminate paper cash, move everything online, and pay off debt as a bonus.
>https://x.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1965089544258429012
This may explain the SEC’s 180 under the new administration and how much Trump is talking about making the USA the crypto capital, rewarding US based crypto companies, creating a crypto reserve, etc.
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2022 began the move to dedollarize the global economy. It's intentional in the sense that this is due to things like sanctions on Russia but not in the sense that the goal was to make the dollar lose value. That's just a massive cope by people trying to convince themselves the government actually has a plan.
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>>60916647
I read this and listened to this.
I think these two are not connected, Trump might have intention to make something out of stablecoins or whatever but dollar losing value outside of US is absolutely unintentional and bad for bugers.
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>>60916572
Intentionally. The tariffs will work better this way. Just dont bring up how the US used to criticize China for it.
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>>60917636
Dollar losing its value against other currencies is absolute disaster for USA.
USA sole existence based on dollar as international currency and being able to export green paper in exchange of foreign goods.
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>>60916647
>change to blockchain
>quantum computers break encryption
>debt black hole bomb disappears
>bitfvck takes the blame
>bankercoin offered as alternative
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>>60917719
Yea. The US is also completely different economy to China. They lower the price to stay competitive in trade because otherwise the large amounts of exports they're doing drives up the price on their currency. Then the economy goes into deflation and exports drop because people are priced out of Chinese goods, opening up a chance for cheaper countries to swoop in and take market shares. The US is an importer and dollar prices would crash if the currency wasnt the reserve currency with large amounts of foreign debt being issued in dollars. That has created demand for dollars which allowed the government to basically print money at will with it leading to massive it effecting prices of goods and services since there's always some one somewhere willing to trade in dollars.

There is sector that needs currency manipulation isnt industry, its local, state, and federal government sho needs high demand for dollars to secure cheap loans.

Industries have mostly been outsourced already. All that's going to happen with interest rates going up because fewer people want to lend dollars is the entire US government system not being able to pay its bills and companies not being able to secure cheap credit which makes it harder to bring back manufacturing.
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>>60916572
Against the Euro, Pound and Franc what are you trying to go on vacation are you female?
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>>60916636
>Trump
It's systemic.
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>>60916572
The dollar has been losing value since the creation of the Federal Reserve. That's one of the main ways your masters milk you without you knowing it. Since the creation of the Fed, the dollar has lost over 98% of its value. Or, more accurately, 98% of its value has been stolen. The rate at which it is being stolen is increasing because the scam is coming to an end and the activity must accelerate to keep it going a bit longer. But the end is near.
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Intentionally. It's necessary to move manufacturing home. International demand has to decrease.
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>>60917933
interest rates went up because someone printed gorillion dollars during covid creating absolutely insane inflation in the US, international value of dollar was not affected by that.
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>>60918052
> 14 month old and another on the way
I’m so spooked bros. Do I get some more gold at these fucking prices? Feel like I should. 3.75 oz gold and 110 oz silver. 1700 Stinkies .14 bittie, 3.5 eth
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>>60916647
>Move debt
>Uh oh something something crashes
>Debt gone
>Crypto crashes as a whole and never recovers.

What's stopping the US from doing exactly this?
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>>60920832
The bond market
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Trump wants it to devalue intentionally for exporting
but that's not exactly what's happening now
he will get it on 2026 tho
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>>60920702
If I was you in your position. I’d sell all the BTC and ETH and shave off 200 link. That gives you $35,000 and I’d get 7 ounces of gold and the rest silver which would be about 200 ounces.

Your current gold and silver stack is at worst the bare minimum lowest rung for being saved in case of a big revaluation. Who cares about the BTC and ETH? There are grandmas out there with more ETH than you. And you Link is your slingshot, which at 1,500 is probably plenty.
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>>60920702
>>60920840
And I forgot to add that with the now 10 ounces of gold and 300 ounces of silver you are well well in make it territory. I’d feel way better about 10 ounces of gold and 300 ounces of silver than .14 BTC and 3 ETH which is nothing and 3.5 ounces of gold and 110 ounces of silver.

Also BTV and ETH can collapse anyway.
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Unintentionally.
A side effect of printing money to pay for bad policy and stuff that would get you voted out.
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It was a stated goal by current US administration.
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>>60916572
Intentionally. A low dollar means US goods are cheaper to overseas buyers, which means higher exports. A high dollar means foreign goods are cheaper in the US, which means higher imports. Trump wants to increase US exports and decrease foreign imports.
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>>60917719
>Dollar losing its value against other currencies is absolutely awesome for USA.
ftfy anon. Sorry you won't be selling us as much of your now-overpriced shit, but that's a price we're willing for you to pay.
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>>60918052
>The dollar has been losing value since the creation of the Federal Reserve.
You're confusing inflation with exchange rates. The two are not remotely the same thing.
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>>60921299
US is an import economy, not export. It does not benefit from undervalued national currency.
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>>60921374
>this thing that has changed several times before can never ever ever change again
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>>60921450
US needs to go through serious economic and political crisis and overcome it for things to change in some way
I mean you probably won't be alive by then anyway
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>>60920649
Theyre printing even more money now just to pay for the debt of former money printing. Inflation is down. Covid inflation was mostly about supply issues. Workers retired, shipping slowed down, factories stopped production, etc. Prices went up as a result.
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>>60921900
Remember when people said the US would never be an energy exporter ever again? And then less than a decade later the US was a net energy exporter? Turns out the fastest way to solve a problem is to do the things necessary for change instead of sitting around with your thumb up your ass saying the problem cannot be solved.
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>>60921304
I didn't saying anything about exchange rates. The dollar has lost 98% of its value relative to domestic goods and services.
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>>60923451
Production just moved to Asia and it's simply not coming back
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>>60916572
in the long run the dollar has been loosing purchasing power by 6% annually. I'd make the case that this is the return you could expect on a long-term investment in Gold. Again, this is in the long run, it does not mean every year its gonna be 6%. Most of the stock market return is also down to this. Very few companies however excel by delivering something new or finding new markets and thus drive additional returns.
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China was <5 years away from mass dumping USTs and transitioning the world to a gold-backed system (look at China's gold accumulation).
The US being able to export UST and USD demand directly through stablecoins has completely fucked their plan. Asset tokenization is going to fuck it even more, as the US gets to be the issuing body and set the compliance rules around it.
Crypto saved the West from getting absolutely face-fucked. Putin is seething about it.
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>>60923496
Debt have to be paid back at some point which increases money supply as well. It's mostly going into assets. How bad has consumer price inflation gotten as a results? Not very. How bad is it going to get now that tarrifs are crunching available supply? Extremely.
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>>60920832
People understanding the game and selling off all USD denominated debt. Gold is a tier one asset now for central bankers for a reason. Gold and silver are steadily gaining value vs the USD for a reason. The trade being made here is the loss of being the world reserve currency status in order to save the federal government.
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>>60923450
>Covid inflation was mostly about supply issues
This statement alone invalidates everything else this retard has written in this thread
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you retards understand the dollar's international strength vs other currencies almost caused a huge problem in 2022 right?
there is a disconnect, the "value" of American citizen dollars, as in ability to buy rent, automobiles, food, gas, appliances at the local market level is not what these articles are talking about.
They are discussing the strength of the US dollar relative to other currencies, and essentially, these "loses" articles discuss is a return back from insane growth of strength of the dollar relative to other currencies that nearly destroyed the international market as the euro/dollar economy was about to topple tons of exporters who could not get enough dollars on the open market to cover their costs for imports like energy and food in many places.
Dollar being too strong is more dangerous than dollar becoming weaker against other currencies, right now the dollar is at around 98/97 handle, it is not in a crisis as much as these articles try to misdirect your frustrations related to inflation away from the parties responsible.
Weaker currency means more exports to other places, weaker currency means smaller countries that exclusively sell goods to American market for paper have an easier time getting dollars to pay for the necessary imports they require for their countries ( and now because America is flexing, maybe they buy our agricultural products for their imports ).
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>>60916572
Intentional soft landing into stablecoins and tokenized assets.
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>>60924791
US public debt is 35 trillions, domestic debt is MUCH larget, there is no soft landing option.
US wants to close up the economy to protect domestic production (that they don't have) and crash everything, devaluing the debt.
The dollar is not going to last for long, is what I'm saying.
Whatever they will pick it will destroy it as reserve currency.
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>>60920862
Appreciate the suggestions anons. We also have 85k high yield savings so can also dip into that as opposed to selling. We’re saving for a down payment but I’m reconsidering with how fucked things are and my expectation of rising energy costs and property taxes etc etc to squeeze people out of their homes who run a tight budget and bought too much house. So considering prob wait til beginning 27 if we’re all not dead by then to buy so wanna prob convert 20k of that into PMs. That’s my current thought process at least. Still advise selling the eth/btc? The China man said we were going to 8-10k.

I was also contemplating exiting the bitcoin if we get a little pump to 120k. Of all the crypto I think BTC is the one I want to exit most. I go back and forth though. If I can hold til January I exit the short term cap gains window but profits only a few thousand if I had to guesss so not a big deal. I did buy some junk silver last night to have some smaller quantities since I only have rounds and bars atm (small purchase 350 dollars for some pre 65 quarters and dimes and am American eagle below spot).
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>>60927363
Forgot to mention my wife’s pulling 10k pretax for the next two months. Then about 7-8k weekly for another 3-4 before baby two then she’s done working full time cause I want her home w the babies. S corp llc so still trying to get a feel about how much we’ll actually have end of year after taxes. But I feel like we should be investing more aggressively considering everything. It was just the possibility of buying a house early to mid next year that had me more hesitant.
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>>60917963
Against the Thai Baht as well. It's a bit annoying since I plan to live in Thailand until mid 2026 or 2027.



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