So mass layoffs and job losses and high unemployment but increasing productivity and GDP, this means ai is already replacing many employees. White collar will suffer immensely. I thought I was safe as an accountant.
>>60939751Also, wages are decreasing and companies are saving a lot by not having to pay salaries, and ai data centers are barely getting started. It is over.
>>60939764>It is over.hopefully :D
>>60939784It is so over but ai isnt even at full capacity yet. We are at like 10-25%. The demand is insane. The forecasts like picrel are totally possible.
>>60939751>I thought I was safe as an accountantyou are in fact the first one to go.(highly specialized) engineers will be the last white collar faggots to go, if they adapt. all the other white collars wont be needed in two years (that is not exaggerated).blue collar will also have a high unemployment rate but robotics won't be as quick to market as AI is and therefore the highly skilled blue collar workers will be in demand for longer.HOWEVER, the clientel will shrink exponentially (no more middle class), therefore the demand for blue collar will also collapse.
>>60939871I dont know why i hate tradies but i just dont like them. If i fail itll be okay as long as they fail.
>>60939871Dont forget future workers and fired white collar people entering blue collar and increasing supply of workers. :/It is kinda over for blue and white collar workers
>>60939811It's replacing a lot of low tier artistic and admin work, but the rest is not clear cut.I am sick of corporate Indians glorifying the latest and greatest from the AI space, while it has produced incredibly tiny amounts of productivity in 2-3 years. Especially compared to the money put in it.And C-suits keep pushing it without having any idea how it is supposed to be used.
>>60939904>>60939915>white collar joining blue collari've been seeing this happening for 10 years now. you'll be a lowest level wagie and the more robotics advances the less these people will be needed.
>>60939918It isnt just USA but China. There is literally an ai race atm. And public ai isnt the same as the ones behind the scenes. Dont think of it as “replacing jobs,” think “replacing employees.” Then you realize it isnt hard at all.
>>60939926I dont have to do anything at all. My parents own like 100 houses. The only scenario where i be a lowest level wagie is political turmoil.
>>60939931Do they own in a company or something?I know some rich people but they dont like real estate. Seems like a lot of work.
>>60939931I can buy many houses too but it is so much work. Like I already have enough that to do nothing but the thought of buying another home makes think>work, no thanks.
>>60939751gdp is kept up by unsustainable government spending and huge amounts of capital flowing into an ai bubble. llms are a dead end, only pajeet-tier white collar jobs have anything to worry about. accountants will be fine
>>60939751OP you need to get your CPA. It is the only way to protect yourself, not because of the skill set, but because the license lets you carry liability which is something a computer will never be allowed to do.
I know a lot of people that worked in YouTube and got fired in the past few months.
>>60939811>saaaaaar my supurior technogoly will replace 99 percent of your worker, buy my techWhy do retards like you take everything serious one guy says while promoting his industry?
>>60939871>all the other white collars wont be needed in two years (that is not exaggerated).this is exaggeratedfirst, AI so far is force multiplier, not an actor on its own. I do not see it becoming even 2x multiplier in the next 2 years. and some companies might prefer having existing power*2 instead of keeping the power and halving the workforce.Second, even if we reach AGI, we do not have enough DCs/power to replace every white collar. They are being built, yes, but they won't be here in 2 years.10 years horizont seems problematic indeed.
>>60939992Accountants wont be fine.
>>60940180Shut up man. The public ai isnt as good as the ones they haven’t released to the public. i
>blue collar collapseLMAOTry getting the AI to wash and sort the dishes, run a banquet and take out trash.That's just one hotel department, let alone engineering which AI cannot do without human help.
>>60939751>>60939764OBSESSED
>>60941130No one said blue collar will collapse you low iq loser. It is all the new people entering the workforce going into blue collar and the fired white collae people will too. Increase in supply of blue collar people means lower wages and stuff.
>>60941154Every time we have this debate here this point is simply not understood by peopleIf ai is a force multiplier of only 10-20% the resulting glut of workers will depress wages and working conditions hardThe second phase is reskilling into the non ai affected jobs so they too get pressuredAnd the bonuspoint ai isnt a consumer, it doesnt buy things so no there will be no corporate expansion to retain the now more productive workers
>>60943435>ai isnt a consumer, it doesnt buy thingsit is a consumer of enterprise hardware, electricity and water (for cooling)lots of these things in fact.
>>60939784This.Death to the managerial class.
>>60939928>AI raceNo it's just they both print paper money and haven't realized they over-value tech and undervalue labor. Therefore, they both go all in on tech hoping the tech will bail them out of the debts they built. >what debts?For a nation, inflation is a debt that must be paid with labor. As your money's purchasing power wanes, so too does your ability to influence others. >governments can just do whatever they want!No, they can't, they need buy in, maybe not from the plebs but from some big investors. If the big investors can't enjoy their lives they become corrupt/noncompliant. >govs can just print moneyThat is what they have been doing for over 50 years now. During covid the USD money velocity nearly flipped less than 1. In fact they dropped M1 from measurements. Indicating that they are feeling stress/seeing reduced returns from each printed dollar.China is little better, but maybe has more cultural experience with becoming a corrupt zimbabwe shithole. >but can't capital replace labor?Shit breaks people die, good luck chief. >tldrIt's not a tech race, it's a labor race and both contestants have gotten into a knife fight in the gate.
>>60939751My brethren, I spent a great deal of time to gaze into possible futures. One advice:In the long term the only things not possible to automate or outsource to machines are ownership and responsibility. At least not for the longest time.Own stocks, move into positions of legal authority, or live independently self sustaining.
There isn't a single publicly available "AI" tool that can reliably and consistently pull key information off of a pile of invoices or some other PDFs. Its all still a pile of matrix algebra making educated guesses as what action should follow the last, that also happens to use enough energy to boil Lake Huron. It's all probabilistic too. Which means it cannot be trusted to reliably converge on an objectively correct result, which will be a hard sell for any task that needs to be underwritten and approved.AI isn't replacing anyone but the lowest performing call center employees at this point. GDP is fake and gay because it considers government spending to be productive behavior. Real wages have been decoupled from productivity since 1971 when we abandoned gold. Go learn some python and automate your copy and pasting tasks if you want 'computer assisted efficiency' in your job.
>>60946375Cope.
>>60939931So you are going to be the one paying off all the mortgages after the housing rental market collapses because everyone lost their jobs and can only afford to live in pods or you just going to give the stock away to the banks and let them worry about it?
>>60941130>Try getting the AI to wash and sort the dishes...https://engineerine.com/elon-musk-tesla-robotTesla already did, they have literally been running ads constantly the past few days with them doing dishes, are you purposely bringing up something that was literally just advertised by one of the largest players in the game?
>>60946289>In the long term the only things not possible to automate or outsource to machines are ownership and responsibility.Legal corporations already do that, most patents are owned by automated patent trolls who just use predetermined protocols to buy up arbitrary IP and send automated notices to and file injunctions against anyone and everyone they can make any kind of flimsy use case against to get any money out of them they can.
>>60946289>Own stocks, move into positions of legal authority, or live independently self sustaining.AI can do all of that too, stocks are largely traded by high speed trading bots, corporations have more legal authority than politicians, apple and a number of other corps can buy more independence than most countries.
So many people their job will be gone soon lmaoo
>>60946422>photo literally says "AI generated photo"lol
you thought a job that regular cpus without ai could do would be safe? The one thing computers are good for is counting and recording, retard
>>60946375>There isn't a single publicly available "AI" tool that can reliably and consistently pull key information off of a pile of invoices or some other PDFs.We do that with gpt-oss-120b, available publicly and for free. It runs locally on a single RTX 6000 Pro, served with vllm. PDFs are turned onto images with imagemagick, OCRd with tesseract. It's good enough. No, it doesn't hallucinate numbers. Tesseract OCRs everything flawlessly, 0 mistakes ever. Invoices that it can't handle it marks as too complex, those get sent for manual review. It did not mark anything as too complex yet.
>>60946448Yes, AI has taken over website design, but not all the videos of tesla robots are AI.
>>60939764>>60939784It was already over, you are just too late for the over.
>>60946905gm saar
Bro sales job are safe until we get robots that look and act like humans period(at which point no one probably works anyway)I work in business sales and no one is gonna buy something through a screen they are all boomers who have to talk to you in person and tell you their life stories
>>60946375Getting AI to accurately report that it's all bayesian likelihood is like pulling teeth.>i am more advanced than baysian I am a state machine with billions of nodes!Lol, lamo even
>>60939931>The only scenario where i be a lowest level wagie is political turmoil.Haha yeah why would political turmoil happen after millions of people find themselves unemployable
>>60939751AI replacing workers is an excuse. The reality is the economy is in the shitter, and so businesses can grow, but if you say things as they are, the market will think it's your company that is the problem. So instead they tell this bullshit about AI increasing their productivity.
>>60947006>can growCan't grow*
>>60946944You're right, but SDRs/BDRs will be the first to be automated, and then in 10-20 years when boomers leave executive positions Millennials will be more willing to just buy products through a sales AI interface rather than take a call, go through a proposal, have 10 meetings, find budget and buy the new flashy toy. Eventually itll all be automated anon, I hope you're saving your commission checks.
>>60946469>>60946422Okay Elon.Looking into this.
Total Robonigger Death
>>60939751i'm an accountant and i feel safe. i did $270k last year and i'm on track to do $330k this year.
>>60947159Safe for now. lol. And no one cares about a “salary.”
>>60948188it's not salary, it's my share of the partnership's income as shown on my k-1.
>>60948200Youre a loser accountant, just be quiet. Learn a trade.
